Two Cents: What's in an Aggie

by aorist9 on Nov 20, 2006 12:04 PM CST in Football Comment 20 comments

As this week begins let's talk about how you feel about Texas A&M. I am among the young'uns who've only seen us lose to them once, but there are some that hate the Aggies more than the Sooners.

How would you characterize your own feeling towards A&M and the rivalry?

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I hate the aggies.

But I probaly hate OU more. I have seen us lose to both numerous times. Even when A&M was beating us every year, I still did not hate them as much. Maybe it is the nuetral site game, maybe because I think of oU as more our equal. Maybe Bob Stoops is satan (They both wear red and you never see them together, coincidence?) I guess losing to A&M makes me more sad, disappointed etc., losing to OU makes me angry. Hate leads to anger, anger leads to suffering.

by billb on Nov 20, 2006 12:10 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

aggies

wipe from back to front

JP in San An Tone

by thejahpaul on Nov 20, 2006 12:11 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Hate

I hate both but at least aggies are Texans, just misguided ones. ou fans are either non-texans or traitors from Texas so I hate ou more.

Street level

by UT2001 on Nov 20, 2006 12:40 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

ou SUX

I have no problem with aTm, unless they're competing with UT. Most are from Texas, their fans and traditions are greatness.
I just F****g hate anything and everyting about ou. The only reason they can field a team is the traitors that leave the state of Texas go play there. Can you imagine how great the athletics could be in this state if they all went to Texas Schools. Remember, Adrian Petterson went there to win a National Championship. Didn't happen, haha. F-Them and their university.

Just Remember, No Matter What Happens, ou SUCKS.

by ouALWAYSsux on Nov 20, 2006 1:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Gosh, hmm...

by Peter Bean on Nov 20, 2006 1:04 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

The hate boils for OU

way more. I would still pull for the Aggies if they went to the big game, they are still Texans and deserve some amount of respect. OU is composed of Oklahomans and traitors from Texas, who to me, are the worst of all infidels.

by kicker on Nov 20, 2006 1:12 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Unfortunate

The first football season that I can really remember watching was around 85-86'. So that means for the first 10 years I knew football, A&M owned Texas. For the 10 years since, we've owned them.

As far as the rivalry goes, I'll say this. Most of us hate OU more at this point, because they have been our nemesis in recent seasons. But the traditionalist in me says that A&M is potentially the MUCH better rivalry. However, three things have ruined it over the past decade.

The decline of the A&M program. Talk to any Texas player form the late 80's or 90's and they all tell you the rivalries have flip-flopped; A&M once meant hatred while OU was mostly a historic day at the State Fair. But the game has become so uncompetetive as of late that A&M is now the afterthought, between the two.
They moved the game from Thanksgiving Thursday to Friday in the mid-90's for television purposes, so that it could be paired with Neb-Col. That killed a lot of it for me, because the game was usually a night game (which makes all the difference in the world) and it was played right about the time when you were just finished gorging on Turkey. I have amazing childhood nostalgia for watching this game at the end of a day filled with turkey and touch football. The school's uniforms displayed on the same field together even scream thanksgiving. Its a bit of a strange affair, having the game on Friday morning - not the same.
The bonfire ban. Even though it had less to do with us, I feel like a lot of the flame from the rivalry went out (figuatively) when that happened. It became harder for us to hate each other, and it removed one of the great traditions from college football.

In terms of which rivalry has more potential, I'd say that in a year that features a solid A&M squad, a Thanksgiving night kickoff, and the return of the bonfire, I don't think the OU rivalry compares.

by BrooklynHorn on Nov 20, 2006 1:27 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

I believe

the bonfire ban has been lifted, but still there are restrictions.

...til Gabriel blows his horn

by BigTexBD on Nov 20, 2006 1:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

no, it's ou...

"In terms of which rivalry has more potential, I'd say that in a year that features a solid A&M squad, a Thanksgiving night kickoff, and the return of the bonfire, I don't think the OU rivalry compares."

I was there in the mid-70s, when all that was in place, and the BIG GAME was still OU. And it wasn't even close.

I think the whole State Fair thing, Cotton Bowl split down the middle is just more special than all the aTm stuff.

The other factor was that, although you could hate (as all right-thinking people do..) OU, but in football terms at least, you kind of have to respect them. As brutal as the competition gets, I really don't remember any cheap or dirty stuff on the field. To me aTm is dead, and has been ever since they purposely went after Marty Akins' injured knee on the very first play of the game, after he'd pitched out and was standing 15-20 yards from the play. I have yet to meet an aggie fan who isn't proud of that. I'm not talking about one who isn't overtly embarrassed at the tawdriness and cheapness of the act, but actually proud they did it...

I like and respect many individual aggies, but as an institution and a fanbase, to me they're just the guys who celebrate the deliberate injury to an opponent. That and pull swords out on cheerleaders.... that and fling poop on opposing bands.....

I hope we run our consecutive win string against them to triple digits. But I won't enjoy it near as much as the OU game.

by agent orange on Nov 21, 2006 7:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Aw come on...

haven't you seen the Best Little Whorehouse in Texas?

by BrooklynHorn on Nov 22, 2006 3:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Pity for Aggies, Hate for Sooners

In general, I just feel sorry for most Aggies. They try to be like us in almost every way; it's cute and sad at the same time. I admire their traditions, but some are ridiculous (t-sips? you shittin me?). I know over 20 people from high school who went there, and they are not bad people. And bless their hearts, they're finally sorta good at something (basketball; but we'll see about that later).

However, the feelings I have for Sooners could only be described as hate. I knew 3 of them in high school, and all were obnoxious and stupid. I stayed at the Adam's Mark in Dallas for the RRS, and was overwhelmed by their pure retardation. They have no respect for anyone besides themselves. And this was AFTER the beatdown we gave them. Sooners are the one group of people that could be banished from earth and no one would care. Harsh words, but they bring it upon themselves.

...til Gabriel blows his horn

by BigTexBD on Nov 20, 2006 1:34 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

When I was little

I hated the Aggies more, mainly because my neighbors were aTm fans and their kids would constantly give me crap about how they were always beating us, and also because we beat OU more often than not.

Once the situation shifted, with us beating aTm and losing to Oklahoma, my hatred shifted up north. Moving away from those kids helped, too. Anyway, I went to high school out of state, and I ended up graduating with a couple of Aggies. They weren't bad people, and still aren't. Besides, they're Texans, and that's a hell of a lot more than the Sooners are.

by boomhauer25 on Nov 20, 2006 2:52 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

So

it depends on who we seem to be the most competitive with which detemrines our "biggest" rivalry?

Street level

by UT2001 on Nov 20, 2006 2:55 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

No

it depends on which teams' fans make you hate them the most.

by boomhauer25 on Nov 20, 2006 2:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Then ou

Because in my opinion, ou fans are the fan base who are just against Texas no matter what. I watched part of the ou/Baylor game on Saturday and they ended up showing little sooner kids giving the upside down hook'em. Every freaking time. This seems to be the only thing sooner nation knows. Not pride about their own accomplishments or wins, just a whole college based on hating us.

I think a&m at least has some traditions where they cheer for their own team, not necessarily against Texas. Kind of pathetic that ou has nothing but hating Texas.

Street level

by UT2001 on Nov 20, 2006 4:02 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

But isn't A&M's fight song...

All about beating Texas?

by aorist9 on Nov 20, 2006 4:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

they are both equally immature

but OU is just plain evil and in no way a friend to the state of Texas.

by kicker on Nov 20, 2006 4:57 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

It's a banner year

for any team if they beat Texas. No one else has the pride in their time that Longhorns have for Texas. Like the upside down Horns. It's never about propping themselves up, it's always about bringing us down.

Fuck them. And that's all I have to say about that.

Hook 'em Horns

by LonghornWSO on Nov 20, 2006 5:04 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Hate the Ags, HateHateHate the Sooners

I was a member of the first 4-year UT graduating class never to beat either A&M or OU ('84-'88) - closest we came was a miserable tie to OU in the rain at the Cotton Bowl.

That said, the Ags have always been our rivals, but they're from around here. They're Texans too. They're the annoying kid from down the block who you can't stand but can't get away from because he lives in your neighborhood. We grew up together in the SWC.

The Sooners are the Outsider, the Other, the Stranger. We have nothing in common. We don't have to play A&M at a neutral site. We play OU in Dallas because neither of us wants to go to the other's house. It's not a friendly rivalry. They grew up in a different conference and a different state.

Unless it helps UT to go the other way, I always cheer for A&M over OU just on general principles.

(I'm sure the OU/OkState compared to OU/UT rivalries are comparable to UT/A&M and UT/OU.)

by wizardimps on Nov 20, 2006 5:54 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Good Point

(I'm sure the OU/OkState compared to OU/UT rivalries are comparable to UT/A&M and UT/OU.)
Really puts in perspective............
OH Well, ou Sucks..............

Just Remember, No Matter What Happens, ou SUCKS.

by ouALWAYSsux on Nov 21, 2006 7:58 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs