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What Now? Fixing The Longhorn Offense, Part 2

Why does stuff always turn out to be cyclical?
In Part 1, we laid out the basic storyline of how we got to this point. That basic gameplan we saw Kansas State employ on Saturday will be the blueprint for every team heading forward: control the vertical game with two safeties deep, jump the short routes, tackle well.

It'll work, too, if something doesn't change. Those who hate the dink and dunk horizontal passing game (and who doesn't?) are in for a long season if Greg Davis doesn't try to overhaul his approach immediately.

But that begs the question at hand: can we realistically overhaul the offensive approach in the middle of the season? And do we even have the personnel to do it?

The second question may be more important than the first. Not only is Colt McCoy ill-suited to run the offense at hand (he poses no credible running threat to freeze defenders), but he's getting thoroughly rag-dolled because our offensive line is tremendously weak in the middle. Dallas Griffin requires help on virtually every play, and his help is coming in the form of underwhelming guards (Tanner, Hall, or a true frosh).

Worst of all, McCoy suffered a concussion just before the end of the first half on Saturday. With the rain pouring down, the Texas passing game all but collapsed, and a quarterback with an injury history getting his bell rung... Texas' coaches brought McCoy back out to start the second half.

As he took the field, I noted my confusion in the open thread:

This makes no sense

Given the weather, Colt's injury, and Colt's struggles - why not play Chiles?

Colt gave it his best shot and is to be applauded for his courage and toughness. Nonetheless, it was obvious - at the time and especially in hindsight - that he shouldn't have been out there. By the fourth quarter, he was throwing up on the sidelines - classic post-concussion symptoms. It's borderline reckless that the coaches put him out there to play.

It was what it was, and we are where we are, so now the question turns to next week and the Red River Shootout. The team doctors (Brad McCoy?) have already cleared McCoy to play this Saturday, and though I'll be cheering like hell for the Longhorns, the prognosis is grim. Stoops' gamebook is probably saturated with saliva right now, and I hope to high hell that Colt doesn't suffer some sort of major injury because he gets pummeled.

In all likelihood, this story's gonna get worse before it gets better. Should we lose to Oklahoma, the only important remaining question will be: do we try to overhaul the offensive scheme to better suit what Colt McCoy can and can't do? Or do we stick John Chiles in to run the current scheme?

It's almost shocking to be having this conversation right now, given Colt's heroics in 2006, but it won't do us much good to deny the reality of the landscape. The offensive line might be able to succeed in a zone-read Chiles-based scheme. I'm not sure Colt McCoy can survive a full season in the current situation.

What's more, we have to ask: who has the higher ceiling? Can Texas get to the big games with a Applewhite-Simms-McCoy type attack? Greg Davis hasn't proven able to do that in his career. Ever. Should we expect him to now?

What Davis has managed to do is put together a nice package for a supremely gifted running quarterback. It does appear we've got one of those on the roster here... Is it time to bite the bullet, make the hard decision, and go in that direction? You'd feel bad for McCoy, of course, but the team comes first, right Mack?

For now, we'll wait to see how things go in Dallas. The Big 12 championship goals are still attainable, and while that's still on the table we should put our best foot forward and make a go of it.

If the wheels come off again this Saturday, though? It might be time to start trying to build the next great Texas offense. With John Chiles.

--PB--

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Colt

It is so scary to think that he's going out post-concussion, against our most bitter rival, with a severely porous O-Line. If he looks anything like he did vs the sheep-fuckers last year, the coaches and Doctors need to take him out immediately.

by roywilliamsisgod on Oct 2, 2007 9:35 AM CDT reply actions  

Colt

If he is like he was last year against aTm and the coaches won't take him out; he needs to have it him to take himself out. He is hurting the team playing like that. The rest of the leaders on the team need to get it through to him, if the coaches aren't, that he is holding us back when playing hurt.

by afaeguy on Oct 2, 2007 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'll make this real simple

A coach who can't be bothered to gameplan by matching his talents' strengths and weaknesses against the opponent's strengths and weaknessess is a coach who is just too lazy to do his job.  

Shorter version: running the same scheme regardless of personnel and/or opponent isn't doing his job.  

GD Jr. hasn't worked in years.  The last time he lifted a pudgy finger was five years ago when the staff traveled to West Virginia to learn the zone read as a way to exploit Vince Young's talents.  Since then: zip, nada, bupkis.  

We're stuck in a scheme that has nothing to do with our players because someone doesn't fell like doing his job.  

Our O-line is chopped liver.  We have an embarrassment of riches at receiver and we're stocked at RB and TE.  Oklahoma lost their star DE for the year and their corners are good.  Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to figure out what the matchups are.  

Wow, that's ... hard, isn't it?  

Uh, no.  

  1. Colt's banged up and his line sucks:  max protect.  
  1. Corners are good and you're not flooding anything (see #1):  TE's down the middle and/or Sweed and Pitman in motion.  
  1. Aces, with Charles, McGee, and Ogbonnaya in the gut.  

by IntheHallsofOldUT on Oct 2, 2007 9:55 AM CDT reply actions  

Lack of balance

The problem with this offense is not necessarily the scheme, as much as it is the lack of balance.  GD's play calling stunk.  And I'm willing to bet Mack had some serious issues with how quickly we abandoned the run.  He mentioned it at the press conference, but I'm sure he was irate behind closed doors.  In the first half, nearly 45% of the plays called were designed runs.  And what was the result?  JC gained all but 7 of his 72 yards before halftime.  In the third quarter we went almost exclusively to the pass, and this was when the issues started to mount.

I firmly believe that the 'horns need to pass to set up the run, not abandon it...Especially when your QB is seeing stars.

Beating OU will take balance on offense and a defense that does not give up the big play. If you would have asked me at the start of the season I would I have said we would have the offese, not the defense.  Now, I'm beginning to think this defense will be able to hold, but its the offense that is not capable of putting points on the board due to poor play-calling and decision making.

by BMG on Oct 2, 2007 11:11 AM CDT reply actions  

PB...

Aside from still being pissed off about you agreeing with the "hard but stupid" comment, I think you are right on the money about this situation with colt and chiles. I'm really not a guy that likes to make knee jerk decisions based on one game, but clearly we are getting back to the time period when we had talented players (Simms, Applewhite) and never went anywhere. I dont think those quarterbacks were ever comfortable playing here at UT because I dont think our offensive coordinator was really ever comfortable coaching them. Colt may be comfortable running a zone read style of offense, but this isn't Tuscola and there are much faster athletes at this level that he simply can't compete with and doesnt pose the kind of running threat we need to run GD's offense through him. My biggest problem with GD is not that he "just sucks." While in some cases this may be true, it's a general attack and ultimately useless. My biggest problem with him is that he has shown no ability to really put out a scheme in which he can succeed without a QB that has all the worlds most physical gifts. (Ala Ken Dorsey @ Miami)  He is just comfortable putting the ball in the hands of a guy who can run and let him play backyard style of football, and make his own decisions. This is really sad for our current starting QB, who isnt gifted in the ways that a VY or a John Chiles. Unfortunately for Colt he has a coordinator that will not and, seemingly, cannot adjust to the style of offense that he is best suited. And since GD isn't going anywhere anytime soon, more than likely Colt is going to have to bite the bullet instead.

by saveadre on Oct 2, 2007 11:11 AM CDT reply actions  

To be fair

The hard but stupid comment wasn't mine. Nor did I say Prince was stupid. I said his team played stupid insofar as they racked up an egregious number of penalties.

Prince and his staff sure made our staff look soft and stupid though, didn't they?

In any case, I think we're in agreement on Davis. He hasn't shown that he can win the big ones without playing the zone-read spread attack with a tremendous athlete at QB. Which may mean it's time to take the training wheels off Chiles.

--PB--

by Peter Bean on Oct 2, 2007 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

We have no idea, do we?

I'm clueless.  I don't know what to think versus OU.  All the trepidation we are facing...OU is facing as well.  Hell, they were up 24-7 at the half with the Colorado "IT'S BIG 12 FOOTBALL!!" Buffaloes.
Sadly, I have lost confidence with Colt.  Painful to say, but if the coaching staff and the personnel do not change or shift in some other way, we are probably going to see the early demise of young Mr. McCoy.
Should OU fall asleep like they did against the Buffs, maybe we have a shot.  But shake the confidence of our primary playmaker in Colt McCoy, we are going to have another very long Saturday afternoon.
I don't know about everyone else, but I am lighting some candles at the church.  The NCAA doesn't have a health plan for post-concussion disorder.

"Somebody's gonna hafta go back and git a s---load of dimes!"

by DKRismycopilot on Oct 2, 2007 11:11 AM CDT reply actions  

I ain't a doctor, but...

Can a quarterback, no matter how tough he is, really recover from a concussion in a week, and recover enough  not to put himself in jeopardy against one of the roughest D-lines we will face all year?  Strategies aside, I think we have to default to the kid's health here.

Then there is afaeguy's question whether Colt can play well, even if he does play.  I'm sure he wants to take the field -- but can he back up his desire with sharp play?

I say we put in Chiles.  A tough thing to do to a freshman, but them's the breaks.

by NYCHorn on Oct 2, 2007 11:26 AM CDT reply actions  

No.

No, I don't think you can comeback from a concussion in one week - even if it was an extremely mild concussion.  But from hearing of CM's symptoms it doesn't sound like it was of the extremely mild variety.  Even if CM is coming back from a concussion how does that affect his preparation this week?  Is he going to be 100% for the on-field practice sessions mid-week?  I wouldn't bet on it.

Some of this maybe a diversion tactic.  While the Sooners will probably be preparing for a CM led attack and spells of Chiles, this allows Mack Brown to throw OU a curve if he decides late in the week to start Chiles.

Agreed, someone has to think of Colt's longer term condition rather than one rivalry game.

by Speedway on Oct 2, 2007 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

i guess

you never saw troy aikman play

by lucky21you on Oct 3, 2007 1:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

sure, but

Still not convinced it's the right thing to do from a health standpoint.  And Taylor's article in the Dallas Morning News makes another good point -- Aikman was getting paid millions to play and win, concussion or not.  Colt isn't.

by NYCHorn on Oct 3, 2007 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

You aren't a doctor but what?

You did stay a Holiday Inn last night?

by Speedway on Oct 2, 2007 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

I've had a few

Post concussive disorder can takes weeks or months to heal. You do feel fine most of the time, but out of nowhere you get so dizzy you fall on your ass or faint.  I like McCoy he is a great QB, but his health should come first. A second concussin would be horrible. I'm not a doctor but this has been my experience.

by RemiMagnus on Oct 2, 2007 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Here is what I worry about

Normally, I just lurk here, but I couldn't hold my tongue any longer.

If TX goes back to the zone read and to an I formation or even power I set, do they have the personne to execute?  I don't think they do, given the lack of run blocking they presently have.  If Charles was a power runner ala Benson, I'd more open to the idea.  However, in the zone read/1 back set, Charles can use his quickness and moves to cutback in the open field.  If we go to a more traditional set, teams will line up 8-9 in the box against us (see 2003-04) and our run game will really go nowhere.  

Finally, in regards to Chiles at QB: I don't think the guy has the arm (yet).  Chiles only played QB his senior year of high school and it showed on Saturday.  He one-hopped several balls to his WR's in the limited action he saw.  So, I think there is a personnel probelm at QB too, given McCoy has Cody Carlson/frequent injury syndrome.  

Defensively, the guys should be applauded.  After the first KSU drive, their offense was DOA.  We could use some more pressure on the QB.  

by scomce on Oct 2, 2007 11:48 AM CDT reply actions  

While you're resting...

Back on the ranch when I was young we'd work, work, work on weekends. The place was a good place to live but wasn't big enough to quality whatsoever as a working ranch. But like any ranch, there was always work to be done.

And when we'd take a break, my dad would often preface a list of additonal stuff I should be doing with "While you're resting..." and he meant that to be done now. This is common among ranching folk, who do discriminate between really hard work and lighter fare as well as subtle irony.

So, while we furrow our brows and knuckle GD's head, it may be worth a little perspective to return to the glorious days of yesteryear, or at least one of them: the 1999 RRS when Applewhite and Hodges Mitchell led the Horns to a 38-28 victory. The link is to Chip Brown's well written story for the DMN, so while you're resting, catch some magic from the past.

This was the post-Ricky season and in the game before the RRS, Kansas State had just obliterated Applewhite, who had six turnovers, and everyone, and I mean everyone, thought the Horns should be retired to the back 40 if not hospitalized. It was a brutal, ugly loss at home and there were no kind words for anyone. Especially the O-line, which KSU seemingly sliced through at will. It looked like a long season that mournful evening.

To complicate things, OU jumped to a quick 17-0 lead and all the anguish of the week before seemed to jump back in our throats. But then a funny thing happened. The Horns started making plays and the beleaguered and taunted QB started sticking those taunts right back at the OU fans. The defense came alive although the special teams still sucked. But you know what, Applewhite and the Horns stuck it to the crimson and cream and weren't bashful about doing it. They gathered their spriit and vanquished the enemy.

I'm not saying this will happen Saturday. What I am saying is that there are those weekends when everything goes wrong like last weekend. There will be those moments when nothing works and your players look like they're running in quicksand and everything bad that can happen happens. The other team has all the luck and you're seeing stars where there are none. And sometimes  you just gotta forget about it, just erase it as an anomaly in what has become overall a very unusual and wickedly interesting college football season even as we drew a black bean along the way.

The way to fix it - and all the polemics noted above probably do need to happen in some manner - is to make some plays and be aggressive - and play damn good defense. If there is anything I have demeaned GD and Mack for, it is their lack of aggression in big games (sans VY; he was aggressive walking on the field). Major attacked, the defense sacked and vindication come our way that October day at the turn of the century. That aggression was one of the real cures for overcoming a bad memory.

Now get back to the hard work, whether it's brain surgery or simple football emasculation.

Hook 'em

by whills on Oct 2, 2007 11:58 AM CDT reply actions  

Hodges Mitchell

What is Hodges doing nowadays?

by Laz on Oct 2, 2007 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well written

but that was Stoops' first season as a head coach.

His team hadn't quite taken to his attack yet (remember he was the first pass-first coach in the history of the school), and the Texas players didn't have OU snuggly nestled in the darkest regions of their psychology.

Different story this Saturday.

by BrooklynHorn on Oct 2, 2007 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

The whole game

Remember, OU jumped to a 17-0 lead and those quick strikes would set the mold for Stoops' classic blitzkrieg attack. However, that OU team still had a lot of Blake's players and attitude and when the Horns clawed their way back into the game, they had overcome that. Stoops would instilled later on. They did play better for Stoops than Blake and remember this was the core that would win the MNC the next year, so this was no small feat.

You're right about this Saturday: the Horns have to beat OU and the attitude. But you know, that's always true; before Stoops, Blake and Gibbs were pretty easy pickins but going back farther to Switzer and there was a hell of an attitude there. But its not like we don't have one either.

It's football; you gotta beat the whole package (bz insert package joke).

by whills on Oct 2, 2007 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Great Post man..couldnt agree with you more

I might be off topic here, but did you happen to see one play where K-state lined up man to man to our Shotgun-4WR set?

K-state had dropped a SS into the box and showed blitz...yet no audible was called for a deep route...

O who? and what kind of name is atm?

by hookemkp on Oct 2, 2007 1:47 PM CDT reply actions  

Why I am pissed !

I will start by stating that I have been a Brown supporter from the start. I even gave GD the benefit of the doubt because during the Applewhite/Simms era our offense was good - even though it was predictable. Our weakness was our defense. While Brown certainly put us back on the map with regards to national relevance once again, Dodds' number one priority must be permanantly staying at the party.

For a month now we have seen the same issues with the play and the play calling, and it seems like no progress has been made. What exactly has the staff been doing to correct the problems that have been painfully obvious to most of us ? The answer can only be - who the hell knows.

One thing that has really pissed me off at this point, and caused me to seriously question Brown keeping his gig, is he has acted like a - well - uh -frankly a pussy, for lack of a better word.  Starting with the off the field issues this summer, he dispayed a gross lack of leadership that has certainly been reflected in his team.  Now, I hear him publicly admit to wondering "why we abandoned the run so soon" after the game is over. Just what is your headset connected to Mack ?

What about the obvious mis-use of talent.  This staff has absolutely screwed Drew Kelson, they are screwing Kindle and the young linebackers, they are screwing McGee, and Davis has absolutely forgotten Finley I guess.    

I don't know about everyone else but I am feeling a serious disconnect between Mack and his team. He is almost starting to seem like a glorified cheerleader that just claps on the sidelines during games, while the coordinators make all the strategic decisions.  No disrespect to Ron Prince, but the Horns simply can not return to getting outcoached by the Kansas States of the world again.  

Kind Regards & yes - OU still sucks, JBob

by jbob on Oct 2, 2007 2:52 PM CDT reply actions  

Right On About Mack

You are absolutely right about Mack Brown.   (I loved the headset comment.)  The buck has to stop with Brown.  He recruits the players.  I assume he hires the coaches and can re-assign or fire them.  He certainly can overrule any call or personnel decision they make.  Thus I assume every call that GD makes is with Brown's concurrence.  If he disagrees and doesn't say so, then he either stupidly doesn't realize that's his responsibility or he doesn't have the courage of his convictions and had rather second guess if the play goes bad.  Like you said, he is acting like a cheerleader, clapping when a bad play is made, when he needs to be kicking some butts.  The team may be excused for not being up when they played Central Florida away but there is no excuse for the team not be be breathing fire when teams like Ohio State, Kansas State, and A&M come to visit.  I recall a few years ago that Brown was quoted as telling his team something to the effect that the other team was going to come out fired up and they needed to take the first blow and be able to come back.  Maybe that philosophy is why we are always having to come back in the second half.  What he should be telling them is go out, seize the momentum and keep it.  

"Only angry people win football games." --DKR

by OBdoc on Oct 2, 2007 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Developing talent

It is often the case that the top HS talent MB brings to Texas fails to develop into top college talent. (Of course there are exceptions.) There are two reasons this could be. First, is that we are getting players from powerhouse HS programs which have already developed players to their potential, so while our recruits come in with skills, they have little upside for improvement. But second, it could be that we have a coaching program that is keyed to execution of the offensive and defensive systems, and not to the development of basic skills. We have great strength training, but (apparently) not much on the science of football. Otherwise numbskulls like Killebrew would not be playing.

There is no simple explanation and no reason not to get players of both types. But it is grave mistake to establish the topped-out players in the starting positions simply because they come in better developed than those with more potential. More playing time needs to be devoted to development of high potential players.

by Caradoc on Oct 3, 2007 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Mack

If the LBs this year have taught us anything, it's that you can bet that as long as Mack is here he's going to stick with his guys. I think if Colt can walk and talk at the same time he'll play this saturday, and his competetive edge won't keep him out. I'm not saying that's the best thing for the team, only the reality for those calling for Chiles.

I think we can maybe learn some things from Arizona recently and go to a platooning QB system. I know a lot of people hate rotating QBs, but it may be what's necessary. I think Sherrod Harris, not Chiles, should be brought in for a few series' to add a running demension, along with his passing skills that are far superior to JC's at this point.

by FBuck on Oct 2, 2007 3:30 PM CDT reply actions  

we need an execution

but not what you think. We need an execution of the offense. Lots of teams have a predictable offense in college (and even in the pros - the Colts run the same 20 plays every game), the difference is largely in how well the plays are executed. If I'm GD, I'm looking at
(1) a young offensive line that is not particularly athletic and is trained to zone block, which requires each lineman to know not only who to block but also what his two nearest linemen are doing. It is a scheme that provides consistent holes to slashing, quick runners (powerful or not)[exhibit A, Denver Broncos for the past decade], but is the hardest to learn and the most difficult for inexperienced players to get right.
(2) a quarterback who was described as "incredibly accurate" in the summer, but who has happy feet now because he gets more than 4 seconds to throw (the minimum collegiate standard) only about 30% of the time and doesn't seem to have that "sense" of how to move around the pocket to avoid the rush. Colt is inaccurate because his footwork sucks (see first half of TCU game and last 4 minutes of the first half of the KState game)
(3) receivers who are mostly more quick than fast (except Sweed) and no really 4.3 second forty-yard burners. This means that the defense, particularly the linebackers and strong safety can guess and try to jump the passing routes. They will be wrong 80% of the time (and perhaps this is increasing) but the penalty is only a 5-10 yard gain, since the safeties are sitting 10 yards back. With more pure speed in UT receivers, they would be 12-15 yards back, giving more of a chance for the short routes to break open.
(4) A running back with amazing speed that scares, but who lacks quick explosiveness or a lot of wiggle and really isn't the perfect back for a struggling zone blocking scheme.

The solution, without really making wholesale changes in formations: Colt in the gun. Sweed and Jones/Cosby/Shipley split to opposite sides. McGee or Charles as the RB, and either Charles or Chiles as a slot back inside Sweed. Finley is the TE to the opposite side of Sweed and same side as Jones/Cosby/Shipley.

Two plays (practice these until it sounds like the Boston Philharmonic) can both simplify Colt's options and get the ball into the hands of playmakers more often:

(1)Bring the Charles/Chiles slotback in motion BEHIND McCoy as the play starts so when he gets the snap he can a. give to McGee or Charles in the draw or trap, b. pitch back to Charles/Chiles, c. fake these and throw a short route (whatever the defense dictates) to Jones/Cosby/Shipley, a route to Sweed or a deep seam to Finley if he is not covered by a linebacker. If Finley is covered, then he blocks for the run and Jones/Cosby/Shipley go deep. One can also run a counter or (forbid! a bubble screen to Charles/Chiles) off this by having Charles/Chiles reverse direction after the snap.

This play has zone read action but the DE confronting Charles/Chiles' motion has 3 choices instead of 2, since Charles/Chiles become the running threat that McCoy is not (ala VY) and McCoy is the passing threat that Charles/Chiles is not (although there could be some enticing option pass action with a pitch to Chiles). The motion and two run actions should freeze the LB's and at least one safety, and most importantly the DE to the side that Charles/Chiles would be running to. This should give Colt fewer defenders to read and put a lot of pressure on the safeties to make a hard choice. If the DE does not bite on the Charles/Chiles run and attacks Colt intead, the Charles/Chiles motion can become a little circle route where Colt makes a short pass to them HEADING UPFIELD, not to the sideline. If run with motion to the right, this also provides extra help for the right tackle and depends on Tony Hills holding up his side, which seems to be a better proposition than running it to the left where Hall/Huey/Hix are exposed.

The play is vulnerable to a LB or corner blitz off the side that Charles/Chiles vacate. To beat that, Sweed would have recognize this and go to a hot route to the vacated area. It's not really a trick play because if the everyone on the defense stays home, there are still lots of options in Colt's hands.

(2)From the same beginning formation, move Charles/Chiles up to the line and bring Finley in motion to that side, yielding Sweed, Charles/Chiles, and Finley on the same side of the line. Charles/Chiles would run a fly or go pattern to at least push a safety and LB back, Sweed would drag across the middle and Finley would run a 15 yard pattern of some sort to the outside. One of the three will be in single coverage, as likely will Jones/Cosby/Shipley. From this action, McCoy can hand to McGee/Charles to the new strong side, pass to Jones/Cosby/Shipley, or pass to whoever has single coverage on the Sweed, Charles/Chiles, Finley side.

This play will much more likely yield a pass than a run, but run from the same beginning formation as play 1, the defense is still on its heels and reacting to the offense, rather than the offense reacting to the defense.

With the different personnel at each position and the various options available that only Colt, Sweed, and Finley have to read, there are a lot of different "plays" that can emerge out of just these two formations and Colt doesn't just have to stand back there waiting for the DE or blitzing LB on every play.

Anyway, sorry for the dissertation, but with a LITTLE creativity, there is hope.

by burnt in ny on Oct 2, 2007 5:19 PM CDT reply actions  

So, when the snow is deep, what are you thinking?

Don't get me wrong; I like your analysis. Moving receivers around would really create more match-up problems. And I really like the circle routes up the field.

I remember using such plays in 7-man intramural football, where the screening back keys off the rushers to get separation. A fake long to hold the middle coverage and you could hit the screener in stride at full speed. Short yard type play meant to bedevil the middle coverage and a good escape valve. The pros use variants of that in 'scramble' mode.

This term is very interesting:

4.3 second forty-yard burners

and wonder who really fit that mode. Sweed isn't a 4.3 in the first 40 by a long shot, but his long stride can eat it up on the second 40. Both JC's have that kind of speed. Shipley ran a 10.6 100-m. and has good sustained speed and Pittman may even be  faster.  

I don't know about Quan's speed any more. I saw him in HS at both the state meet and the Texas Relays and he had serious speed, especially in the 200m. There was a story from his senior year that coaches went up to Mart and timed him in five 40s. The slowest time they came up with was 4.29.

He's listed at 200 now and I'd bet that's at least 15 pounds heavier than those days. He doesn't seem to have that very top gear he had then.

In terms of second 40 speed, I would think the Horns are in pretty good shape, especially as a group. I think Jamaal might be more valuable split out as a constant deep threat. You could make half that cover 2 become glued to JC's sideline. (I realize that pass takes some time.) I think that may be the tactic now but they've never thrown that pass to him to make the D respect it. This is basically a Pastorini-to-Burroughs first-play-of-the-game set-up.

by whills on Oct 2, 2007 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hope Mac/GD read this and follow up

By far the most comprehensive and coherent analysis and prospective solution.  Salute from a fellow NYC Horn.

marshalld

by duras on Oct 3, 2007 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Why McCoy

Perhaps the ideal situation would be for the team physician to declare McCoy "not ready" for Saturday.  But if he declares McCoy healthy and McCoy doesn't start, then Brown is sending a message (regardless of what he says by way of explanation) that (1) KS was McCoy's fault and (2) one poor game and you lose your starting position (even if you were injured, and it was raining, and the line couldn't block, and your RB couldn't run, and the interceptions were tipped balls,  and the OC has a one-page playbook). I wouldn't want to send that message.  At least start McCoy, and if he looks the least bit injured or not sharp, then take him out.

"Only angry people win football games." --DKR

by OBdoc on Oct 2, 2007 5:25 PM CDT reply actions  

Short sighted

The probability of McCoy lasting the entire game is slim.  So, the game plan we will be constructed with him in mind.  Meanwhile, either Chiles or Harris could get valuable snaps and, heaven forbid, actually prepare for a game.  Everyteam is a reflection of their leader.  That is why Texas has no fire.  None.  After every interception, McCoy walked off clapping to himself.  As some point, a team has to know that some consequences for poor play exisits.  As it is now, they are convinced that they are one or two tweaks away form greatness.  That's on Mack.  Between all the off field junk and now a second year where the head coach refuses to protect an injured player from himself, I no longer believe in Mack.    

George

by thanos on Oct 2, 2007 8:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

It is what it is

I have misgivings about Davis, but you have to take into account the current situation and define a gameplan around it. It is what it is!!

  • The weakness of the offensive line has been exposed and will be exploited by others.
  • Colt McCoy has great football savy and a lot of heart, but does not have the physical stamina to withstand the physical beating. Each opponent's gameplan since last year (K-State) has centered on attacking the quarterback and exploiting this weakness - blitzes, borderline late hits on every opportunity.
  • The current offensive scheme does not promote an inside running game to counter the pass rush and inside blitzes. Davis tries to counter with short passes and east-west running game.
  • The talent at wide receiver has never been better, but it is almost totally negated by the deficiencies listed.
  • Oklahoma has the defensive talent to fully exploit these weakness better than any other opponent this year.
  • Defensive coaches are the best at playing copycat and developing a defensive scheme by applying what others have exploited best. You can bet that the Oklahoma staff has developed more of the same.
  • I am sure that Coach Davis fully understands the hand that he was dealt. He will try to counter the quarterback pressure by:
  • simplifying the play-calling to get the ball out of Colt's hands as quick as possible - balance inside running, rollouts, screens, short passes over the middle, and a few long throws. He must create space for Colt and simpify his decisionmaking.

Accepting the facts one can only hope to win the turnover battle and special teams play to balance the playing field and squeeeeze out a victory. All said and done, It will be a monumental task and the guys will leave it all on the field, but I am afraid it will not be enough this time:

Oklahoma 45   Texas 13  HANG IN THERE HORNS!!!

by valonghorn on Oct 2, 2007 8:35 PM CDT reply actions  

Hmm, well, uhh

I'm amazed at how many voted for Chiles to start.  Maybe that was one of them "bots" they have here on the internets.  A Chiles-voting automaton.

Anyway, you don't start Chiles against OU unless you plan on totally abandoning the forward pass.  So count me in.

As for platooning QBs, didn't some SEC team try that last year?  How did that turn out?

I voted McCoy to start but I daydream of a platoon (meaning no more of this # 12 lining up in the slot).  Chiles in a 2 back set w/ McGee and Charles, 1 TE...

...F it.  TWO TEs, and run the F out of it left, right, center.

Or whatever.  I'm not picky.  Do something creative for once or I'm not going to be able to watch (all four quarters of the beat-down).

by MBAHick on Oct 2, 2007 8:46 PM CDT reply actions  

I think many voted for..

Chiles for health reasons.  That's how I read it.  I do not think there is any way a true freshman, with a limited playbook, can be make it out of the RRS.  I like CM, but I think his brain has been jelly since the first game (maybe even back to tamu).  I'd hate to see him get hurt really bad.

by Bevoboy94 on Oct 3, 2007 8:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Easy to blame the OC

I don't intend to be an apologist, but if you go back and watch the game again carefully, Colt didn't always make the right decisions.  There were receivers open and he was throwing into the coverage or in lanes allowing the passes to be batted down. I think this may be what Davis meant by Colt thinking too much and checking off too much with all of the options that he has in the offense. I think the successful plan for Oklahoma will be to simplify the offense, limit the choices that Colt can make and have him simply run the plays as called from upstairs with a heavy dose of running the football. I also think we will see Chiles - he wasn't being warmed up against K-State for nothing.

What I do respect about this coaching staff is that they take the heat instead of blaming the kids - not all coaches have that much class.  Of course, when you get paid $3 million per until the next decade it is easy to say the buck stops here.

by jwill on Oct 2, 2007 8:56 PM CDT reply actions  

talent is NOT

the issue.  Appropriate use of it is.  There is more than enough talent to win at Texas.  Misuse, poor development, and utra conservatism is what has hurt this team.  Isn't rocket science.  That's why USC gets ALL the talent.  He plays the best talent.  Period.  

Again, football aside, Colt should sit.  Health before all.  I don't see the courage in putting your brain at risk.  If he had a concussion, why is his opinion even considered for this week?

George

by thanos on Oct 2, 2007 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

The only reason to start Chiles

that I can see is for Colt's health.  Other than that, I think starting Chiles would be a signal that the season is over and we're building for the future.  I know Chiles is exciting, but I can't imagine him being ready to go against OU at this point.  They would just stack the line and dare him to throw the ball over their heads.  Anyone seen any evidence that he could do that consistently?  He might turn out to be good, but he is very raw.

What needs to happen (IMO) is we need to keep somebody back to help protect Colt and give him some more time.  It does no good to send 5 receivers out on patterns if the QB is getting obliterated every time you do so.

The other thing we need to do is stop talking like OU is some unstoppable juggernaut.  I have as much respect for OU's talent and coaching staff as anyone, but they're just as capable of getting beat as we are.  We talk about them like they aren't capable of screwing the pooch against an in-state rival (they have several times) or not being fully prepared or up for a game (see: Fiesta Bowl).  Sometimes we as Texas fans give them too much respect, I think the team has done that at times as well.  Screw that - OU Sucks.

by SaintBevo on Oct 2, 2007 9:41 PM CDT reply actions  

Good Point

Yeah, we do seem to give OU way too much respect.  They just lost to Colorado for Pete's sake.  

We need to go out and hit them in the mouth and show them where they can put that 11 point spread.

by Top Jimmy on Oct 2, 2007 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

i concur...

that I can see is for Colt's health.  Other than that, I think starting Chiles would be a signal that the season is over and we're building for the future.  I know Chiles is exciting, but I can't imagine him being ready to go against OU at this point.  They would just stack the line and dare him to throw the ball over their heads.  Anyone seen any evidence that he could do that consistently?  He might turn out to be good, but he is very raw.

Exactly what I say. Chiles is not experienced enough to start and play the whole game. I think he has the drive and desire to win, but he's still too raw. He should be used sparingly, to get his confidence up and in simpler packages. The only reason to sit Colt, is due to his concussion.

But if the kid has a concussion, don't think about playing him. I want a win vs Ok just as much as anybody, but that's no reason to risk further injury to the kid. Whether McCoy goes on to win a championship or gets benched later on, there is no good sense in risking serious brain trauma which can be the cause of many health problems in the future. Concussions are not something you want to mess around with.

-flo

by bleed burnt orange on Oct 3, 2007 1:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Emotion will win this game

After all the coaching talk and QB factoids, the Horns will win the game if they come out fired up and stay fired up. I don't think the coaches can do it, the team will have to do it.....a leader has to emerge.

If we can get a little early success, or a break, we can win this. Somebody said it earlier..."the talent level between these teams hasn't changed that much in a year". This is true.

OU has been feasting on cupcakes all season and pushing their stats through the roof, and the media has gone GaGa ! They met a team with less talent that was fired up last Saturday...and did their typical annual soonie meltdown (muffing a punt on the goal line with the game on the line against their 5th UNRANKED opponent !)

OU is beatable....It's totally up to our team to fire up and execute....the entire game !
Go Horns !

Santiago's death, while tragic, probably saved lives....

by MeatchickenHorn on Oct 2, 2007 9:42 PM CDT reply actions  

Dead horses

Talkin X's and O's with the Horns is somewhat useless. There is NO emotion on this team. No player who fires up their team on and off the field. No one who goes to the sideline and wants the crowd more pumped up.

Gundy, as dumb as it looked, lit a fire. Fran lit a fire last night with fiery speech to his team. Prince helps keep fire going with fist-pumping and high fives on the sidelines when things go right. Tebow fires up an entire stadium. USC running backs do it. NO one at Texas has done it since VY left.

Texas has more talent than anybody they'll play this year except for maybe this weekend. And OU doesn't have much more. They're probably equal.

You talk about screens and how they don't work. Great teams with great athletes can tell you what play they're going to run against you and STILL make it work.

Good news for Texas, though: OU doesn't have a player that sparks emotion either. They just don't have a coach that claps on the sidelines when things go wrong!

"Excuse me while I whip this out."

by FreedomDip on Oct 3, 2007 7:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

The poll

What the hell happened? I made a QB controversy diary and the majority voted for McCoy in my poll. PB has manipulating powers!

by goingforthecorner on Oct 3, 2007 5:37 AM CDT reply actions  

Re:

Starting Chiles will look a whole lot Vince's 12-0 RRS. Except instead of a headstrong Cedric Benson, we'll have a dancing Jamaal Charles getting stuffed 4-5 yards behind the line consistently. Both Chiles and that VY version had no concept of the passing game, and Chiles has a play package even less than Vince had at that time. Oh, and our defense is NOWHERE near as good as that year. If Chiles can show the same development to the end of the year as Vince did, though...maybe I wouldn't mind a loss to OU. (Hmm...no, I still would.)

Whatever the case may be with Chiles, Colt should not be playing if he's still suffering from post-concussion symptoms. Bad on-field coaching is one thing, but letting someone play when he's increasingly susceptible to future injury is absolutely inexcusable.

by jc25 on Oct 3, 2007 9:44 AM CDT reply actions  

Why is everyone overlooking Sherrod Harris?

Chiles, while freakishly talented, has several weakness that have already been expressed by BONers: inexperience at QB in general (only 1 year of high school), difficulty with making passes, and a very limited set of plays he could actually run.  

So why not Sherrod?  He's had a year to mature in our vaunted east/west attack and he's athletic enough to run the zone read.  Assuming his knee sprain from last month is not an issue wouldn't the team have a better shot at winning with Sherrod at the helm?  

by DogTown on Oct 3, 2007 2:21 PM CDT reply actions  

Maybe I'm simplistic

This may be taking the easy way out, but I can't help but blame the coaching staff for the lackluster performance since the K-State game last year.  Even though Colt has not been a Texas-caliber starter since he was hurt doing that game, it is a coaching decision to keep him in.  Even if the coaches wanted to put aside his pathetic performance in the A&M and Iowa games last season, certainly the beginning of this season demonstrated the need for a change at QB.  In the big picture, Davis is as worthless as a barrel of monkey nuts.  He is stupid, uncreative, weak, and timid in his play calling.  However, since Mack is obviously putting loyalty over winning, Davis doesn’t seem to be going anywhere.  In that case, I would like to echo the previous posts in encouraging a return the one successful system Davis can execute.  The only way to do that is to bench Colt.  I realize that is effectively saying to him that he can’t cut it, and his football career is basically over.  I wouldn’t want to do that, but then again, I don’t get paid $3,000,000 a year to coach the Longhorns.  Mack makes enough money to make some tough calls.  Fire Davis, or bench Colt.  

One more thing.  It has been suggested that benching Colt and starting Chiles or Harris signals that this season is over, and we are planning for the future.  I agree.  I also think that keeping Colt in says that not only do we not care about this season, but we don’t care about the future either.  How well can we possibly expect to do with Colt?  This is not 2006 pre K-State Colt anymore.   We are looking at likely losses to OU, A&M, and Nebraska, with a 50% chance of loosing to Tech and OSU.  Chiles can’t make those chances any worse, but maybe, just maybe, we can turn things around and have a good season next year.  I bet those of you who disagree with me will come around after a pissed-off OU team destroys us this weekend.  

by Texas Our Texas on Oct 3, 2007 2:57 PM CDT reply actions  

Iowa

Colt was really good in the Alamo Bowl.

by Bob LaBlog on Oct 3, 2007 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

none

I agree that he wasn't as bad as he was against A&M, and that he wasn't as bad as he has been this season, but I think there was a significant drop off from how he was performing pre K-State.  He was under throwing his passes, and just looked flat.  I don't think he had any interceptions, but he did fumble at least once, if I recall correctly.  And this was against a 6-6 team, which we barely managed to beat by 2 points.  Not much to actually test him.  I'm all for the "a win is a win" philosophy, but this was no triumph.  

by Texas Our Texas on Oct 4, 2007 1:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

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