Thursday Night Open Thread: BC at Virginia Tech
Everyone wonders just how good Boston College is, but I'm absolutely with SMQ on this one: how big a test is Virginia Tech, really? I'd say not much of one, except for the fact that this is a night game in Blacksburg. Not to get too intangible-focused, but I'd guess that'll count for something.
Plus: Enter Sandman through the tunnel. You gotta love that.
I'm just rooting for an entertaining ACC game. One can hope, yes?
--PB--
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53 yard punt, in the rain!
My boy will get one off like that before the season is over...possibly before the weekend is over?
Oh, I almost forgot. He probably won't get on the field this week. We can hope, right?
by horndude on
Oct 25, 2007 6:56 PM CDT
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So if...
BC wins at Virginia Tech at night with Sean Glennon as the opposition and Ohio State does the same with Penn State and Anthony Morelli, do we really know that much more about them? I'm with you and SMQ.
by CW on
Oct 25, 2007 7:31 PM CDT
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I was hoping for an entertaining game too, PB...
... but after watching the first half, I've come back to the realization that "entertaining" and "ACC game" don't belong together in the same paragraph, much less right next to each other.
by Sweed4Heisman on
Oct 25, 2007 8:17 PM CDT
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UVA
I've come back to the realization that "entertaining" and "ACC game" don't belong together in the same paragraph, much less right next to each other.
Watch a UVA game. Most of them are really exciting.
by Texas Wahoo on
Oct 26, 2007 11:06 AM CDT
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I watched the UVA-Maryland game last weekend...
...and while it was a close game that came down to the final minute, I still didn't find it very entertaining. Perhaps it was because Michigan/Illinois and LSU/Auburn were on at the same time, but ACC football has a tough time keeping my attention right now because most of the play is so poor (witness last night's game with the league's two best teams).
by Sweed4Heisman on
Oct 26, 2007 12:50 PM CDT
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Boston College....
really fucking blows.
outscored by VaTech - yikes.
by cortexas on
Oct 25, 2007 9:46 PM CDT
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Is it just me...
yeah, it probably is...but does anyone else get the feeling the BCS poll is just one big crap shoot.
If I'm LSU right now, I'm looking at this BC/V-Tech game going WTF, we crap bigger than these guys.
I'm calling it...all the undefeateds are going down this weekend; BC, Kansas, ASU, tOSU...hell, throw Hawaii in there too. Who are they playing anyway, Guam?
I'm sure the poll will sort itself out by the end of the season, but whomever does end up winning the title really will be a Mythical National Champion.
I don't want to hear anymore about parity. It's just PC for mediocrity.
Bartender, Jobu needs a refill.
by 54b on
Oct 25, 2007 9:50 PM CDT
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Couldn't agreem more...
And I think Hawaii plays Samoa in the Haka Bowl. I just can't believe that these are two top 10 teams.
by the1austin on
Oct 25, 2007 10:08 PM CDT
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Jinxed that one.
How do you dominate a game so thoroughly for 58 minutes and give up two TD's in the final two minutes...actually feel bad for the Hoakies.
My bad.
by 54b on
Oct 25, 2007 10:16 PM CDT
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Prevent defenses.
Prevent defenses only prevent victory. VPI softened up at the end and started playing prevent defenses and Ryan took advantage. And about time beamer ball failed.
How has VPI not had a good qb since Mike Vick. With an average college qb VPI wins that game easily. Sean Glennon is mediocre at best.
by longhorn4life2 on
Oct 25, 2007 11:17 PM CDT
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Jobu
Is very bad to steal Jobu's rum... is VERY bad.
by SelimSivad on
Oct 26, 2007 9:54 AM CDT
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Life imitating art...
When I made my ill-timed post last night, there was 4 minutes left in the game and VT was up 10-0 and just whipping the fried whale shit out of BC.
Sure enough, barely two mintes later, it's 14-10 BC, game over.
Felt like somebody hit me in the head with a bat...but I don't think pissing off Jobu lost VT the game.
I think it was that stupid prevent D alluded to above. Gee, you think only rushing 3 guys against a passing team when they haven't done shit all night against your base 3-4 with a rush outside linebacker was a bad idea..ya think.
by 54b on
Oct 26, 2007 11:17 AM CDT
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OMG!
That is a Heisman 4th quarter! What a great QB. I like BC an awful lot this year. Critics be damned!
by Horn Brain on
Oct 25, 2007 10:08 PM CDT
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And
Did you just see Ryan puke on the sidelines? What a boss! What an arm on that throw, too. Ryan is my Heisman candidate now, and I was skeptical before I saw this.
by Horn Brain on
Oct 25, 2007 10:13 PM CDT
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haven't read any previous comments....
but just wanna say "i'm an asshole".
incredible game.
by cortexas on
Oct 25, 2007 10:15 PM CDT
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Boring, Boring, Boring....... WOW
Great ending for the few who were able to stay awake till the last five minutes. Matt Ryan Heisman material...not in a normal year, but this isn't a normal year.
by stefancl on
Oct 25, 2007 10:19 PM CDT
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Yeah
I just got in from rugby practice, turn on the tube, and watch the best 2 and a half minutes of football I've seen possibly all year. I'm not kidding. Perfect timing. I walked in when they were reviewing the first BC TD.
by Horn Brain on
Oct 25, 2007 10:31 PM CDT
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SEC homers will have a field day with this.
All the SEC and LSU homers are going to be discussing how they ripped the same VPI team with Sean Glennon while BC needed a minor miracle to win. There are valid points to this but people are going to be saying that BC got lucky on that play at the end of the game (why didn't they kick the field goal (sarcasm)) while Les Miles and LSU are geniuses.
One of the worst replay calls i have ever seen. Eddie Royal clearly did not have possession of the ball and yet they gave him the points. VPI, really, only had 6 points in that game. Terrible call.
Back to the SEC homers, people are going to be saying how BC is a joke (maybe they are) but if BC goes undefeated or ASU, or KU and Ohio State go undefeated they deserve a shot at the national title. It should be OSU and ASU in a 1996 Rose Bowl rematch if all those teams, mentioned above, inexplicably run the table.
Its only fair, you go undefeated in a major conference you go to the national title game. LSU had their shot and lost against Kentucky and they need pure luck to beat an average Auburn team (in my opinion). I hope BC/ASU go to the national title game with OSU so they can stick to the SEC.
by longhorn4life2 on
Oct 25, 2007 11:14 PM CDT
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that post was
spot on. Great post.
by mvplonghorns on
Oct 26, 2007 12:44 AM CDT
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Nope
BC is made of paper. If Texas had their schedule, we'd be an extremely illegitimate undefeated team. If LSU had their schedule, they'd be undefeated with no game being closer than 30 points.
That has to count for something. Luckily, College Football is the only sport on earth where it DOES count for something. It is also the only sport in which BC can potentially be overtaken even if they win out... which is a good thing.
Lets hope it happens.
by BrooklynHorn on
Oct 26, 2007 10:46 AM CDT
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I'm not buyin' it
okay, so i only flipped on the tube with about 5 minutes left in the game and started flipping back and forth between this game and the baseball for as much as i was watching TV at all. i did see the final two drives though. nothing i saw, and looking at the numbers the next day, nothing i see in the numbers, screams Heisman candidate to me. when BC took over for their 2nd to last drive (first touchdown drive), Ryan was sitting with a line of 16/37 for 129 yards, 0 TD, and 2 INT, positively craptastic. VT falls into a soft zone and rushes three (actually this is mostly the next drive), and Ryan has all the time in the world to find open receivers. sure he ran around a lot behind the line, but Byron Leftwich on a bum leg could have evaded that pressure, and everybody knows that you give a QB enough time and one of his 5 receivers will come open.
watching the end of that game, i was not impressed at all by BC's quarterback, i was more ashamed on behalf of VT that they couldn't close it out and gave BC every opportunity to steal it from them. how pathetic. i can't disagree that this puts BC in the driver's seat for the national title game, but i have no confidence that they'll be able to beat whomever they see, and (having not seen Ryan in any previous games) would not think that this performance should be the signature performance that makes him a front runner for the Heisman. the national media so desperately needs a darling, that i'm sure that's how it's going to play out, but i think that just becomes a loud statement about how mediocre this season of football has been.
by littlevisigoth on
Oct 26, 2007 9:28 AM CDT
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Totally agree
This was a laughable game by Ryan. I couldnt believe the announcers kept going on about his NFL head, arm, and whatever else. He had 2 picks that should have been 6, if the VT dbacks could catch passes that hit them in their hands.
Macho had a pick six easy when he jumped the short route, and the backup linebacker (white guy #33) had a tip ball land in his lap that he couldnt come up with. Not to mention the two fumbles VT caused that they werent able to jump on.
Its a shame VaTech couldnt close this game out. Ryan looked awful, BC looked awful. VaTech had about 4 drives absolutely killed by having no viable second string center. Muffed hike, blocking miscues, mistimed snaps, you name it, he did it.
And still with all that going on, and BC's monster of a punter, it still was a shutout for 58 minutes.
BC is terrible, the big east is terrible, VaTech needs some semblance of an offense, but they still should have won this game. That one is on Foster for going prevent, TWICE.
by BoddickerIsClutch on
Oct 26, 2007 10:55 AM CDT
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I assume
you meant to say the ACC is terrible. But watching that game last night, I could see how you'd confuse the two.
by BrooklynHorn on
Oct 26, 2007 11:01 AM CDT
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Hey
No one has ever pulled a miracle without a little help from the other team's mistakes. If Pete Carroll doesn't call that TO on the last extra point, they have a timeout left, and could have moved into field goal position (the way we were letting them gash us, it really could have happened). If Miami doesn't let Flutie run around in the pocket for about a minute and a half, there would be no Hail Flutie. Going to a prevent defense means you're really just thinking the other team will give up and realize they're "supposed" to lose. Ryan and BC never gave up, and he and the receivers made some great plays to win a game that was all but lost. The fact that he sucked it up earlier on just amplifies the fact that they didn't give up, even though they were getting their ass beat. Whether you think it was Heisman-caliber or not, give a scrappy team credit for sticking with it and pulling out a W.
by Horn Brain on
Oct 26, 2007 11:12 AM CDT
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there's given a scrappy team credit
then there's annointing the guy Heisman and proclaiming that this is the team to beat in the country (not to imply any of that being said here). it's a zero sum game, which as well as saying every great win needs a loser, every disasterous loss needs a benefactor to claim the victory. the two cases you're quoting were both games for the ages long before the dramatic finish, with champions on both sides of the ball performing at extremely high levels. suck, suck, suck, then two minutes of arguable brilliance, does not a game for the ages make.
i already admitted that BC has as much of a case as anybody for the MNC, but it's not cause they're that great a team.
by littlevisigoth on
Oct 26, 2007 1:04 PM CDT
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Whoops, yeah I meant ACC
Guess my hate for the Big East spilled over into my hate for the ACC.
I get what you are saying about sticking with it, but I guess I feel that should be expected from athletes at this level and above. You play until the final whistle, period. If you want to pat them on the back for doing what they are supposed to do, so be it. Foster blew it.
In 55 minutes, 49 seconds worth of gameplay VT held BC to 149 total yards. BC averages 438 yards per game.
They got more yards on the last two drives, then they had in the entire game up till then. That is a huge discrepancy, and that falls on the defensive coordinator.
by BoddickerIsClutch on
Oct 26, 2007 1:28 PM CDT
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