BCS Standings Open Thread
by Peter Bean on Oct 28, 2007 1:29 PM CDT
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PrintBCS Standings will be released today on Fox after the first second round of NFL games are complete. Your top eight will be - in some order - Ohio State, Boston College, LSU, Arizona State, Oregon, Oklahoma, Kansas, and West Virginia.
As always, there's some room to quibble about how to categorize some of these wins. LSU gets a Tier 1 win for beating VT by 41; Boston College does not for winning by 4 in the manner they did. Is winning at Penn State worthy of a Tier 1 win? It's a rather arbitrary system, so feel free to weight games as you will. This is just an easy way to get everyone's body of work on the screen in front of you.
Based on the above, who's your top two? Top five?
--PB--
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Right now...
My two teams who have done the most on the field SO FAR are:
1.LSU
2.Oregon
with OU a close third.
But, based on how good I think the teams actually are for up to this week:
1.Ohio State
2.Oregon
3.Oklahoma
4.LSU
5.Arizona State
I always prefer power ranking until after the final week, then I believe resumes should take complete precedence as far as bowl placement.
based on resume
you have to give #1 to Ohio State. they manhandled a decent Penn State team on the road and took care of business elsewhere. I'd probably give #2 to LSU because of the quality of their wins, but that loos looks worse and worse with every mounting Kentucky loss. Arizona St is a close 3rd, beating a good Cal team (that beat Oregon) and a solid Colorado team (that beat Oklahoma).
I'd put Kansas #4 and then it's a tossup between BC, OU, and Oregon.
also, PB, I know that in our minds, beating Texas by 7 isn't an accomplishment worthy of a ton of respect, but in light of the other Tier 1 wins you have up there, OU's win over UT might deserve that same recognition.
It's borderline
And yeah, could conceivably be a Tier 1 win. I'm thinking Texas will answer that question with how it finishes the season. By December, it might be a Tier 1 win. Or stick in the Tier 2 range.
Umm....yeah....
Brain cramp on my part. I guess I was thinking about what was behind Ohio State. I meant:
1.Ohio State
2.LSU
followed closely by Oregon and OU.
by Sweed4Heisman on Oct 28, 2007 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Merit vs. Reality
based on their resumes, I would have to say the top 5 is:
- Ohio State
- Boston College
- Kansas
- LSU
- Oklahoma
But, throw the record books aside. Who are the top 5 teams if they all had to play heads up?
- LSU
- Ohio State
- Oklahoma
- Kansas
- Boston College
Kansas and BC...
...beat Oregon, ASU, Mizzou, and West Virginia heads up?
by Sweed4Heisman on Oct 28, 2007 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Florida not a tier 1 win
There is no way florida is a tier one win. They have three loses and looks like they are not even ranked. For me, a tier one win is somebody in the top 15 and higher and that is actually a really good football team.
Florida does not look like a good football team. There defense is atrocious and the offense is way to reliant on one player. If you shutdown tebow or get him hurt you win the game.
by longhorn4life3 on Oct 28, 2007 3:32 PM CDT reply actions
In other news
All you had to do in 2005 to beat Texas was shut down Vince Young or get him hurt. And to beat the Patriots this year, just get Tom Brady hurt or shut him down. I think the argument might work for Oregon, too - just shut down Denis Dixon or get him hurt.
I'm singling you out not to be a jerk, but because (aside from being banned 11 times) you toss out your opinions casually, without any supporting evidence for them. See, e.g., the Kansas-A&M game. Or the unforgettable, "Jamaal Charles sucks!"
I'm also singling you out because your tendency to toss out these opinions reflects another bad habit of yours - not reading the posts. In this case, there's a clear qualifier about wiggle room on how you tier a win. The issue at hand is how to rank the above teams.
Again, this isn't to be an asshole. But since you keep coming back, you'd might as well have these things pointed out so you can try to join the conversation without getting banned this time.
BCS Rankings Prediction
Predicting the top teams this week shouldn't be too difficult. Eight of the top nine teams from last week won, only Va Tech lost.
We already have both polls, which make up 2/3 of the numbers and one of the six computer polls, which make up the other 1/3.
So, based on the numbers already available and some estimations, here is what I think things will look like.
- Ohio State .9756
- BC .9526
- LSU .8979
- Az St. .8326
- Oregon .8290
- OU .7920
- West Va. .7793
- Kansas .7556
Hard to say
I honestly haven't seen Oregon play at all this year and only saw Az State play for the first time last night.
If the season ended today, I'd have to go with Ohio State and Arizona State for the title. Thankfully there are lots of lazy Saturdays ahead.
Gotta run. I'll be interested to see how close my numbers are.
Based on above...
- Ohio State
- West Virginia
- LSU
- Oregon
- Arizona State
West Virginia's loss is the "best" loss among those listed. Only South Florida remains ranked currently. LSU's tier 1 wins look less impressive with Florida and Auburn having lost 3 games already. Oregon could just as well be third, with good wins at Michigan and at home against USC. Arizona State beat the only team OU lost to.
I keep expecting Ohio State to lay a stinker, but they haven't. Kansas may not lose until the Big XII title game. Looks like LSU/Georgia for the SEC. Tennessee will likely drop another game at least.
Boston College needs another impressive win before they creep up. Winning at Va Tech under lousy weather conditions is a very good win, but they look the least impressive.
Re:
Resume/Power
Resume
1)LSU
2)Oregon
3)Oklahoma
4)Ohio State
5)West Virginia
6)Arizona State
Power
1)LSU
2)Ohio State (edging up though)
3)Oregon
4)Oklahoma
5)Arizona State
6)West Virginia
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