Here he goes again...someone please put a muzzle on this fool

by hookemkp on Nov 18, 2007 6:07 PM CST Comment 6 comments

i know vince young is having a not-so-good year but i hate meril hoge with f*cking passion. Cutler will never be as good of a qb as vince

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Some people...

....want to claim that Alex Smith's start has been a bust. Yet, a comparison makes an objective fan wonder who is starting out their career with weaker results. Please don't anyone chime in with the "weak surrounding cast" excuse", as absolutely no one has a more pathetic team than the '49'ers.

Alex Smith's 2nd Season:

QBRat Pct PassYds TotYds TotTDs INTs

74.8 58.1 2,890 3,037 18 16

Vince Young is on pace to deliver the following results in his 2nd Season:

QBRat Pct PassYds TotYds TotTDs INTs

62.2 60.9 1,977 2,363 11 18

Let's face it, it will be more than a few years before we can actually judge Vince's success. The same for Alex Smith, Jay Cutler, Matt Leinart and Aaron Rodgers.

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by HornChamps on Nov 18, 2007 6:47 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

smith

However, a lot of people saw Smith's second year as a huge improvement and were picking the 49ers to compete for the playoffs and to win the West with his progression, Gore's ability, etc.

He has severely regressed and the Niners stink. And only now are they talking about him being a bust. Before the season, it was a lot different. So, for a lot of people, these discussions are somewhat framed by preconceived notions.

As for Vince, I wish the Titans would open things up for him. They are limiting his throwing to practically only throwing downs, which is making it difficult. They should just let him loose and allow him to use his natural playmaking ability. But we've seen this before.

by Jason Mayer on Nov 18, 2007 10:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

agreed

these "who's better" arguments hold little water until the guys have had a few years in the league. It's difficult to compare stats and numbers and records with such a small sample and when you take into consideration the different situations surrounding the players (aaron rodgers, for example).

atsmahboy Kelson

by BigTexBD on Nov 18, 2007 6:55 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

hoge

I hate to harp on Hoge, but he makes it so easy. Part of his major conclusion is based on his belief that neither quarterback has a big-time receiver.

Huh?

You're telling me that Javon Walker (before getting hurt), Brandon Marshall, and Brandon Stokley are equivalent to the Titan's group of no names?

There is a huge difference there, and one that shouldn't be so carelessly tossed aside to make a point.

by Jason Mayer on Nov 18, 2007 10:55 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

definitely agree on Hoge

he and skip bayless are the two most worthless employees of espn, unless the network's goal is to produce outrageous and sensational.....oh wait. Nevermind.

atsmahboy Kelson

by BigTexBD on Nov 19, 2007 12:32 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Sean Salisbury is a believer

On Friday's NFL Live Salisbury said that if they redid the 06 draft he would take VY first overall. And that's even with VY's slow start to this season.

I'm not a huge Salisbury fan but at least he and I can agree on something.

by DogTown on Nov 19, 2007 10:18 AM CST reply actions 0 recs