Preview and Open Thread: #16 Texas vs. #7 Tennessee
The #16 Longhorns (4-0) dispatched at least one Aggie team on T+1 by defeating New Mexico State 102-87 in the semifinals of the Legends Classic Newark, NJ. The Horns now take another significant step up in competition as they face the #7 Tennessee Volunteers (5-0) in the finals at 6 PM on Versus (Time Warner Austin Ch. 470). If it appears that we play the Vols every year, we do. Texas and Tennessee just completed a home-and-home series last year, with the Horns dropping both games, and this year’s team is Bruce Pearl’s best yet.
The Volunteers are the pre-season picks of many to take the SEC crown. They are a legitimate 10 or 11 players deep, prefer to play an up-tempo pace, and thrive on creating and converting off turnovers. Tennessee is led by reigning SEC player of the year, Chris Lofton. Lofton (13 ppg) is a terrific pure shooter with NBA range on his jumper. While his ball handling skills are said to be improved, he is still much more a shooting guard than a point guard. Joining Lofton in the backcourt will be 6-2 JaJuan Smith (16.8 ppg) and 6-4 Jordan Howell. Also likely to receive significant playing time will be 6-2 Ramar Smith (10.6 ppg) and 6-7 Tyler Smith, a transfer from Iowa, who plays more of a point-forward position.
Tennessee is not blessed with true back to the basket post players but they have plenty of forwards who use their athleticism to get to the rim and can score in transition. Sophomores Wayne Chism (6-9, 242) and Duke Crews (6-7, 233) should provide the bulk of the challenge for the Texas post players.
The Vols have 11 players averaging over ten minutes per game and have five players (J. Smith, Lofton, T. Smith, Chism, and R. Smith) averaging double digits in scoring. Playing on back to back nights will be tough for the very thin Horns. Playing on back to back nights against a very good Tennessee team that substitutes in loads could prove too much to handle. All five Texas starters played more than 30 minutes against New Mexico State.
Ken Pomeroy
The advanced metrics stats for the Volunteers reveal a very good team on both ends of the floor. On offense, the Vols are a highly efficient scoring machine, 116.6 points per 100 possessions. They shoot a high field goal percentage, especially from inside the arc, get to the free throw line well, and protect the basketball. There a couple of areas of concern, though. Surprisingly the Vols shoot only 35% from behind the arc. Upon first glance, I thought that maybe the wrong players are shooting the long ball. But looking at Lofton’s numbers, 11-for-35, shows that he is the one not off to a hot shooting start this season. This is good news for the Horns but don’t sleep on Lofton, as he could easily go off JJ Redick-style on the Longhorns this evening. Also, the Vols are not a good offensive rebounding club and are just terrible (59.6%) from the free thrown line.
On defense, the Vols are decent in most categories but top five in the country in steals and turnovers. The stats are clear: if the Vols don’t create turnovers, they are very beatable.
For the Longhorns, Pomeroy’s stats show an extremely efficient offensive club (127.4 points / 100 possessions) that is torching opponents from behind the arc and limiting turnovers but also one that struggles on the glass on both ends. Through the first part of the season, the identity of this team is already well established. DJ Augustin and AJ Abrams are offensive machines. Augustin has done a fantastic job breaking down defenses off the dribble and protecting the basketball, while AJ has simply been lights out with his jumper. Conversely, the post players' production on both ends has been merely average. For this Longhorn team to become excellent, they must do a better job of rebounding on both ends, especially on defense, and secondly, need to find at least one post player who can be a threat to score in the half-court.
Keys to the Game:
- Control the Defensive Glass: The Longhorns currently rank 311th in defensive rebounding and gave up an astounding 17 offensive rebounds to New Mexico State. Tennessee doesn’t have much of a size advantage but their big men are more athletic than Clint Chapman and Connor Atchley. Alexis Wangmene will need to show that nose for the ball that I’ve already grown to love.
- Take Good Shots & Limit Runs: These two go hand in hand. After turnovers, the second easiest way to get fast break points is off bad shots. The Longhorns need to run their half-court sets and force Tennessee to guard them in the half-court. With just six or seven healthy and viable Longhorns available, I’m not sure helter-skelter basketball is to our advantage in this one.
This should be a fun game to watch. If Texas can protect the basketball like they have through the first four games and at least stay close on the glass, then I really like our chances. I’m not sold in Tennessee’s ability to beat solid opponents unless they are forcing 20+ turnovers.
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fuck tennessee
We are due to beat these guys. They looked very beatable against West Va. in the late game last night. If the horns keep up their high field goal percentage we can pull out a win.
We need Gary!
So if OSU wins we go to the big XII champ. game? Oh, wait, why am I even watching this game of inbreds.
by jimmer on Nov 24, 2007 3:38 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Freaking Versus
Yeah I know this whole tourney has been on Versus, but damn, this game should be on ESPN/FSN/locals. VERSUS!?
Looks like I'll have to settle with listening to the game on the radio. Hopefully they're broadcasting that game in Houston.
by goingforthecorner on Nov 24, 2007 4:43 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Yuck
That was an ugly first minute
by Peter Bean on Nov 24, 2007 6:05 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Lofton on Mason
Justin does great job taking the ball to the hole and drawing a foul. He is too quick off the dribble for Chris Lofton.
by awiggo on Nov 24, 2007 6:08 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Nice couple minutes there
After a wild first minute, settling in nicely.
by Peter Bean on Nov 24, 2007 6:08 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
good transition defense
we are contesting. I like us trying to get the ball inside. No threes yet?
by jimmer on Nov 24, 2007 6:11 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Much Better, 12-9 TX
Fantastic start by BON favorite Connor. Three easy baskets near the rim and doing a good job on the defensive glass.
DJ with 3 assists and a bucket by my count. Love it.
by awiggo on Nov 24, 2007 6:11 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
My first view of the Horns this season
Wondering why I didn't make it in person. (Maybe because I'm buried in schoolwork too, PB.) First observation is about those ridiculous shorts. "Shorts"? More like culottes. Second observation: I like the peach fuzz on Connor. That's it for my scintillating commentary.
by NYCHorn on Nov 24, 2007 6:14 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Abrams still struggling on D
Our transition offense is terrific
by Peter Bean on Nov 24, 2007 6:16 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Wait a second
Something else is different about Connor, and it's got nothing to do with facial hair. 12 points?? Good Connor!
by NYCHorn on Nov 24, 2007 6:16 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Damnit AJ!
Shooting over the top of him on defense, then a wild three. C'mon now...
by Peter Bean on Nov 24, 2007 6:17 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
AJ calls him Steve Nash
sometimes, per SI.
DJ attended Nash's camp over the summer.
by awiggo on Nov 24, 2007 6:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Love it
Making them pay for pressing. Can we keep up this tempo for a full 40?
by awiggo on Nov 24, 2007 6:19 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
that is my worry
as you noted they have a lot more bodies than we do.
if we had balbay and johnson it wouldn't be a problem
by jimmer on Nov 24, 2007 6:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
that was awesome
wow, i didn't think dex could run the floor like that.
by jimmer on Nov 24, 2007 6:19 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
WOOOO
Great start! And Dexy running the break!!!
by Peter Bean on Nov 24, 2007 6:19 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
25-18, under 12
Horns shooting 73% early on almost all coming in the paint.
by awiggo on Nov 24, 2007 6:22 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Don't like DJ inbouding the ball
This is exactly what we struggled with last year in Knoxville. Much rather see Connor throw the ball into DJ.
by awiggo on Nov 24, 2007 6:25 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
At some point this year,
DJ will not be the best player on the court, just not tonight.
by awiggo on Nov 24, 2007 6:26 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
33-27 TX, under 8
Vols are 7/14 from three. This is much better shooting than they've shown in their first five games.
Lofton really drifting back on his threes. It is one thing to create space but another to shoot 20 ft fade aways.
by awiggo on Nov 24, 2007 6:30 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Ugh
Tennessee taking away the penetration; we need to adjust
by Peter Bean on Nov 24, 2007 6:35 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Chapman
needs to at least look toward the basket. Otherwise teams won't even guard him on the perimeter and sag against DJ's drives.
Mason shooting free throws much better this season.
by awiggo on Nov 24, 2007 6:36 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
39-38 Tenn, under 4
Mason looks a little out of control with the dribble. Needs to settle down and keep his head up.
Bad shot by AJ leads to run out by Vols. Taking good shots within the flow of offense allows defense to get back.
Barnes goes to 2-3 to slow pace down and keep Horns out of foul trouble. So far, so good, but Vols can light it up if we're not careful.
by awiggo on Nov 24, 2007 6:39 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I love
Dennis Miller telling me that the sports page is so boring that we need to watch his show. Which features an interview with.... Bob Costas?
by Peter Bean on Nov 24, 2007 6:40 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
WOW
Great block, save, and steal!!!
by Peter Bean on Nov 24, 2007 6:43 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
DJ gets lucky
by saving ball toward own basket.
DJ is unguardable if you allow his hesitation dribble.
by awiggo on Nov 24, 2007 6:44 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Lofton can't guard AJ, either
Love it.
by awiggo on Nov 24, 2007 6:44 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
#1 in offensive efficiency
I saw we're #1 in offensive efficiency in KP's rankings so far. Incredible.
by Peter Bean on Nov 24, 2007 6:45 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
In Raw, yes
#7 in adjusted rankings for pace of play.
by awiggo on Nov 24, 2007 6:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
James doing great job on Def Glass
12-0 Texas run
by awiggo on Nov 24, 2007 6:48 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Very good analysis by Jim O'brien
Love the 2 for 1 also. Even though it didn't lead to points.
by awiggo on Nov 24, 2007 6:49 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
50-41 Texas at Half
Solid half for the Horns. Very efficient on offense. DJ killing off the drive, AJ knocking down the threes, and Connor running the floor well and making the Vols pay for full court pressure.
Decent defense. The Vols wer cold early, heated up in the middle of the half, and then cooled again as Lofton sat with two fouls.
If Horns can keep attacking the rim and knocking down free throws on offense and grab those long rebounds off missed three pointers, they will be in great shape.
by awiggo on Nov 24, 2007 6:52 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Can't complain
Very nice first half. Transition offense is very impressive; Tennessee would be wise to hunker down and make us play half court ball. But DJ's doing a good job in the half court, too.
Vols shooting a ton of threes to stick around, but having trouble keeping up.
Love it.
by Peter Bean on Nov 24, 2007 6:52 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Wow
Jim O'Brien picking Texas as a Final Four team?
by Peter Bean on Nov 24, 2007 6:55 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Follows up good analysis
with a real reach. Maybe O'Brien knows when Gary Johnson will be cleared.
by awiggo on Nov 24, 2007 6:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
good half
That seemed like a real good half. 10-10 from the free throw line and 60% from the floor.
AJ started knocking down shots. Wangmene is learning.
James has been a beast on defense and the boards.
Keep this up and we have a key win early in the season.
by jimmer on Nov 24, 2007 7:05 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Barnes runs great play
out of half time. Maybe he can draw up plays in the half court. Impressive.
by awiggo on Nov 24, 2007 7:08 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Two backdoor cuts in one half?
Huh? Is this Texas?
by Peter Bean on Nov 24, 2007 7:09 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Brucey
What's going on man? Can't stop da' Horns?
by jimmer on Nov 24, 2007 7:10 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
You gotta love the Pearl, though
by Peter Bean on Nov 24, 2007 7:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, I love the Pearl
Just not when he is facing the Horns, and usually I only like him when he's sweated through a half a blazer.
by jimmer on Nov 24, 2007 7:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So, this is what a well coached team
looks like. I like it.
by awiggo on Nov 24, 2007 7:10 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Last time we looked this good
We had a great point guard.
Hey...
by Peter Bean on Nov 24, 2007 7:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You mean,
like an oustanding sophomore point guard with mostly role players, with a regional in Houston and the Final Four in San Antonio.
Let me dream.
by awiggo on Nov 24, 2007 7:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
bad call
he just put his shoulder down.
nice short range from AJ
by jimmer on Nov 24, 2007 7:14 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
61-48 under 16
Texas benefitting from a bunch of missed layups by Tenn. If either of those threes go down by DJ, the Vols would be in real trouble.
by awiggo on Nov 24, 2007 7:18 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Lexi
Bad goal tending call. Ball had no shot.
Got to rebound Horns.
by awiggo on Nov 24, 2007 7:21 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Sexy Dexy
Has passed the ball out from the post TWICE tonight. I'm pretty sure that's two more than all of last season.
by Peter Bean on Nov 24, 2007 7:23 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Interesting lineup on the floor
by Peter Bean on Nov 24, 2007 7:33 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
"Great interior defense by Texas"
Jeez, I hope we hear that a lot more.
by whills on Nov 24, 2007 7:34 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Gotta agree with you Wiggo
DJ throwing the ball in is not good
by Peter Bean on Nov 24, 2007 7:34 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
69-52
so pissed I can't watch this game.
Rick Barnes totally owned me about Connor. I thought he was in the same league as J.D. Lewis... not even close. What was the difference? What the hell did he do during the off-season that made him improve this drastically? Or maybe this is just Tennessee being too small?
How come James has only taken 3 shots? I'm going to guess it's because of foul trouble. The box score doesn't say how many minutes he played.
by goingforthecorner on Nov 24, 2007 7:34 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Connor and Lewis
Connor was useful last year, too. (Lewis was not.) Connor just got pushed around on the interior too much. He's doing better in that regard this year. But even last year, he was a useful player.
by Peter Bean on Nov 24, 2007 7:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
then an offensive foul next possession
by goingforthecorner on Nov 24, 2007 7:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The kid is gonna make it!
And so is Connor. He has been so solid tonight. And solid is just what the Horns needed.
by whills on Nov 24, 2007 7:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Shouldn't have doubted Dexy.
Connor I knew was good, but Dexy I was worried about for this year. He has put in good minutes tonight.
by jimmer on Nov 24, 2007 7:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Surprised
that Mason actually has more assists than Augustin. It's 4-3 now I think.
Anyway, as far as the DJ/Nash comparisons, I've always though DJ was more of a Deron Williams type of PG. Again, I'm pissed that I can't watch this offense today which is apparently really awesome.
by goingforthecorner on Nov 24, 2007 7:39 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Blow out
When was the last time we blew out a good basketball team? OSU last year, maybe?
Let's win by 30.
You are right about DJ throwin in the ball Wiggo.
by jimmer on Nov 24, 2007 7:39 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Is it me or do they have a better sense
of offensive rebound tonight?
Connor's improvement is really due to him being in the right place virtually all the time. That makes a big difference for a team.
by whills on Nov 24, 2007 7:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
A little better
We still can improve on the glass on both ends
by jimmer on Nov 24, 2007 7:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
They learning, I know.
But sometimes you see a team make a perceptual and physical leap.
by whills on Nov 24, 2007 7:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Who's the better team in basketball?
UT or A&M?
UT has the better guard play, and I'm pretty sure A&M has the better front court with Jordan/Jones. Carter's a good shooter and scorer, and Kirk has been playing some PG with Sloan. They blew the crap out of OSU yesterday.
I'm going to say that we're slightly better, and I know for sure that we're more suited for the tournament because of our excellent guard play. If Johnson plays and lives up to his hype, then I really think we're Final Four bound.
by goingforthecorner on Nov 24, 2007 7:45 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Connor
Yeah, sure, he's a double-double guy. Just kidding, but that would be awesome. He needs 20+ pounds to do that.
by jimmer on Nov 24, 2007 7:59 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
The fake UT kinda sucks
maybe this team was just grossly overrated. They have an explosive offense with guard play, but they had that last year too. They played Prairie View A&M earlier this year and was trailing at halftime. Terrible defense and an undersized front court
by goingforthecorner on Nov 24, 2007 8:05 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
It's still fun to whip their ass.
We could say that the Horns are ahead of last year, although the dynamics are so different it's a mixed comparison. The D is certainly ahead and so are the guards.
If GJ is for real, this will be fun.
by whills on Nov 24, 2007 8:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
97-78
this offense is better than the Rockets!
by goingforthecorner on Nov 24, 2007 8:06 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Horns
Real solid win for the Horns. Wow! Look out ucla.
All around good play. DJ, AJ and Connor all with 20+ points.
by jimmer on Nov 24, 2007 8:07 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
That felt good
.. to beat down that loud mouth Coach.
what a difference a year makes. Now you have Atchley directing Wangmene and Pittman on the finer points of defense. He looked so lost most of last season, what an improvement!
This team looks better than last years even counting KD. The gel is set.
Just two things rebounds and depth stand in their way. If they can stay healthy and Wangmene can get the hang of using those long arms to rebound this team can go farther into the tournament than last season.
Gary Who
by Xerxes on Nov 24, 2007 8:20 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Ka-thump, ka-thump, ka-thump.
Let's hope it stays that way.
by whills on Nov 24, 2007 8:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
was the period at the end
supposed to denote an irregular heartbeat!?
by goingforthecorner on Nov 24, 2007 8:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No. Trying to make it regular.
Just the end of the statement.
Nothing new that I've seen or heard. But the team wouldn't go to all the trouble of having him practice - and now saying he will play - if there wasn't a better than average chance of him playing.
by whills on Nov 24, 2007 8:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Question for people who watched the game
I know last year Barnes said he was watching some Phoenix Suns game tape and wanted the run a similar Suns' style offense.
How fast was the game tempo? Were we trying to push it after every turnover and rebound?
It might be a good idea to run and gun at least sometimes. We have the guards, and we have the athletes. Then we can slow it down a bit and play half-court when Win-Dex is in the game.
by goingforthecorner on Nov 24, 2007 8:32 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Don't watch much pro games
but tonight the Horns pushed it up virtually all the time, always forcing the opponent to defend the basket and the floor. Very predatory.
Late in the game, we got it down there fast, then pulled it up to dribble out the time. We could go half-court in the same fashion. However, despite the break style, the Horns were very patient searching for a good shot. That was one of the best things I saw; few dumb or out of control shots.
They utilized their opportunities well. Much smoother than Pender's era ball; better D. But then I've always thought Barnes teams were much better balanced than Penders, but that's not a shocker.
Others here who know the Suns can make better comparisons in that regard. But I do know from what Barnes has said, he wants to run because he has the players to do that - Gary Johnson is the key piece missing - and he thinks this squad will be the best in the last several years. (Yes, he was unspecific as to whether that was all the way back to TJ.) If tonight is any indication, we're gonna see some fine basketball and holler a lot Wang Chungs all the time. Action, babeee, action.
by whills on Nov 24, 2007 8:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Good nickname
I like Win-Dex. We'll have to pull that out when he starts "cleaning the glass" better
by 3rdgen on Nov 25, 2007 1:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Looks really good
Inclined to get excited about B-ball season but still in sour mood from football and likely to remain such absent a nice win in a bowl game (maybe the fake UT in Cotton?) although very concerned such would induce more complacency and reduce chances of needed change.
Have a friend who is a graduate of the fake (pussy Orange) UT (don't actually dislike them although glad we crushed today and would actually enjoy playing them in Cotton) - as noted above. Didn't get the B-Ball here but the end of UT-UK sure was exciting. Sorry for the rambling. We've beem consuming some of Burgundy's and Kentucky's finest.
At least this win makes the interachange bearable considering the somewhat disperate football fortunes (altough hell - we have the same record and our offense could light them up - couldn't they?)
In any even glad to pocket the win but can't help thinking what this team would be like with KD.
by duras on Nov 24, 2007 9:07 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
That should
read
"...friend who is a graduate of the fake UT over.."
by duras on Nov 24, 2007 9:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

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