Congratulations to Mack Brown on 7 straight 10-win seasons!

by goingforthecorner on Dec 27, 2007 11:21 PM CST

Seriously! No sarcasm here... why are you looking at me like that? I'm being serious!

I've been a UT fan for about 7-8 years. This year, I don't think I've ever been more frustrated, given the expectations. I believed you guys. I thought we were going to be real good and live up to the pre-season rankings.

Then I realized... holy crap! Our defense SUCKS! Especially our secondary. And wow... after injuries, our offensive line was a bunch of freshman babies! There ended up being so many question marks and weaknesses.

Losing all those players to the NFL. All the injuries like Sweed and Griffin. All the JC fumbles. All the Colt INTs. Not using Chiles. Not using Finley. Completely disappearing on special teams. No blocked kicks, punts, FGs. The Greg Davis ineptitude. The regression of all the veterans that Brown trusted. All the close wins to teams we should've beaten easily.

And yet here we are in late December, and Mack Brown has found a way to gut out yet another 10 win season. I am impressed. He found a way to win 10 games with a mediocre to decent team. Despite having a horrible defense, we found a way to beat explosive offenses in Texas Tech, Oklahoma State, and Arizona State. We looked respectable against OU. When you're so dependent on the offense carrying a team, there are going to be bad losses like K-state and A&M. But we bounced back, and then some.

Based off of this solid defensive performance, I'd like to see what this team can do next year when we don't have to worry about the vets that let us down. I imagine that Chiles will be used way more consistently in the offense, as a QB, RB, and WR. The defense should be much better. We do have a harder schedule, and the conference is better overall, but a good defense compounded with our high powered offense will let us go places.

Congrats to you Mack Brown. You deserve it.

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I wouldn't say congratulations

First and foremost, great win by the guys but in terms of the whole season we should have been playing in a BCS game and been confernece champs. I didn't really mind the OU loss.

We should have won that game but it was the two losses where we failed to show up and thats on the coaches. The KSU game was a complete debacle and the A&M game was embarasing. The sad part is, that is what i will remember from this season. The two debacles is what is going to stick in my mind.

I think this game kind of saved the season and really took the heat of mack.

Drinkin' Brown

by IHN on Dec 27, 2007 11:27 PM CST 0 recs

Stop it

Alright dhab, if you're gonna keep coming back then 1.Learn to spell and use correct grammar and 2.Stop with the blatantly racist and offensive acronyms as user names. Both of these will help to increase your longevity.

by horns world order on Dec 28, 2007 1:44 AM CST up 0 recs

I dont think it is dhab

His comments seem to be too well thought out.

by Wells on Dec 28, 2007 12:19 PM CST up 0 recs

No, I think we have a Dhab.

see, e.g.:

ridiculous amount of posting for someone very new around here;

stuff like this unwittingly showcasing his incompetence;

the general rambling of posts like this;

him taking positions obviously counter to his previous persona in order to throw us off (he did this a week ago by praising women's basketball, whereas a year ago he consistently said that no one on BON should talk about it) -- he just scolded someone for using the term "faggies" despite this being exactly what dhab would normally say; and finally,

Dhab is incapable of comprehending the difference between "consciousness" and "conscience." For evidence, see here. Now see this recent comment. Coincidence? I think not.

I'm with you on this horns world order. I think we've got a dhab.

by billyzane on Dec 28, 2007 7:48 PM CST up 0 recs

I don't need to prove that i am not dhab.

If i am not welcome here thne fine, but i am not him.

Drinkin' Brown

by IHN on Dec 28, 2007 8:20 PM CST up 0 recs

Correction then

Oops, does that make dhab b/c i misspelled then.

Drinkin' Brown

by IHN on Dec 28, 2007 8:41 PM CST up 0 recs

no, it's the stuff i mentioned above.

also, perhaps, because in your post correcting the "then" in your previous post, you left out another word, rendering that sentence nonsensical.

by billyzane on Dec 28, 2007 8:50 PM CST up 0 recs

Good job you got me

Do you want a reward now? Yeah i am dhab how did you know?

Drinkin' Brown

by IHN on Dec 28, 2007 8:57 PM CST up 0 recs

Nice try Cap'n Dhab.

I wasn't born yesterday. I know that's you again.

by billyzane on Dec 28, 2007 9:32 PM CST up 0 recs

I want the clock...

Please give us a "Dhab last banned xxx days xx:xx:xx ago" clock. That would be shweet-tastic. It's basically a hobby at this point, anyway.

Growing up, I only fed Jared Norton paper. That's why he eats plays.

by Horn Brain on Dec 29, 2007 9:30 AM CST up 0 recs

Wow

Does dhab really have that few friends....or that many multiple personalities?

My kid may have given up a costly fumble against OU, but at least he's never been accused of face raping.

by Shake on Dec 31, 2007 11:57 AM CST up 0 recs

Wow

How is my user name racist?

Drinkin' Brown

by IHN on Dec 28, 2007 6:28 PM CST up 0 recs

JC fumbles

All the JC fumbles.

Do you even know how many fumbles JC had this season? How about 3??!!

FUMBLES: Fumble/Lost

2005 NC Season - 35/9

2007 Season - 21/8

--- Peter's tired of disabling threads due to the wise-A comments from Wells & BZ, so hopefully they'll refrain from commenting ---

by HornChamps on Dec 28, 2007 12:04 AM CST 0 recs

Huh? 3 fumbles?

Then care to explain why UT lost confidence in him during the season? Why we needed Earl Campbell to teach him hold to the ball?

First of all, I'm pretty sure he fumbled more than three times. Secondly, his fumble in the OU game was one of the critical factors that led to OU's victory.

He's playing great now, but there's a reason why the number of carries he had gradually decreased from 27 in the Arkansas State game to 7 in the Iowa State game. In the beginning of the season, he was a fumble waiting to happen, regardless of what your stats say.

by goingforthecorner on Dec 28, 2007 12:44 AM CST up 0 recs

HC is right

the fumbles we limited to early in the year and I think he only lost three, but I think he recovered his own fumble once or twice.

The number of carries in the Iowa St game was low becuase everything else was working so well that we did not need him to.

by Wells on Dec 28, 2007 12:22 PM CST up 0 recs

Well....be pretty sure you're wrong

We wrote that Jamaal Charles would top 2,000 all-purpose yards. He managed only 1,646, mostly because Mack refused to have him on the field for many third downs. "Put Charles down for 1,625 yards rushing" and two fumbles. He ran for 1,458 yards and lost three fumbles before figuring it out and evolving into the Longhorns' obvious Player of the Year.

http://www.statesman.com/sports/cont...

Try not to get caught up in the Belmont propaganda machine. In an effort to justify their poor utilization of Jamaal Charles in the first half of the season, they had to develop the PR event with Earl. As evidenced by the fumble numbers in my previous comment, we did not have a bad season in the fumble area. In fact, it was much better than most seasons in Mack's era.

--- Peter's tired of disabling threads due to the wise-A comments from Wells & BZ, so hopefully they'll refrain from commenting ---

by HornChamps on Dec 28, 2007 2:04 AM CST 0 recs

There you have it

LOST three fumbles, as in we turned the ball over three times because of his fumbles. That does not equal total number of fumbles, which I was referring to.

Just because JC didn't turn the ball over from a fumble doesn't mean it shouldn't have been a cause for concern. It still results in an unproductive play. If it wasn't a big deal, his carries wouldn't have continually dropped from Arky St. to Iowa State.

If you still don't get it, I'm talking about the total number of times he fumbled the ball. That INCLUDES fumbles that he or a Longhorn teammate recovered.

by goingforthecorner on Dec 28, 2007 3:24 AM CST up 0 recs

M.Brown era fumbles

FUMBLES:

Season Fumbles/Lost

1998 22 / 12
1999 23 / 12
2000 18 / 11
2001 13 / 5
2002 13 / 6

2003 30 / 18
2004 23 / 7
2005 35 / 9
2006 25 / 14
2007 21 / 8

AVG. 22 / 10

Only 3 seasons with fewer lost fumbles. Six seasons with more lost fumbles. Total and lost fumbles below the 10-year average. Sorry, this wasn't a bad year for fumbles. Jamaal's 3 lost fumbles were overblown by you and other Longhorn fans.

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by HornChamps on Dec 28, 2007 4:01 PM CST 0 recs

Only talking about JC

Since when was I talking about the whole team? Wasn't the original statement "All the JC fumbles"? Your new stats are completely irrelevant to this discussion. This has only been about JC. Bottomline is early in the season, Jamaal had a horrible year for fumbles.

So once again, care to explain why he gradually lost playing time from Arky St. to Iowa St.? You've yet to answer the question.

Maybe if he didn't suffer from fumble-itis earlier in the season, he'd have a Heisman type season, and maybe we beat OU and KSU.

by goingforthecorner on Dec 28, 2007 6:55 PM CST up 0 recs

He "gradually lost playing time"??

Jamaal Charles' Carries-Yardage:

Ark.State 27-112
TCU 22-134
UCF 22-153
Rice 14- 72
KansasSt 17- 72
OU 17- 79
IowaSt 7- 44
Baylor 16- 56
Nebraska 33-290
OklaSt 16-180
TexasTech 23-174
A&M 17- 92

In the first 6 games of the season, this young man had 119 carries for 622 yards and an avg./carry of 5.23.

In the second half of the season, Jamaal Charles had 112 carries for 836 yards and an avg./carry of 7.46.

Looks to me like he had 7 fewer carries in the final half of the season than he did in the first half of the season. That is a 43% improvement in avg/carry with less utilization. What was your question again?

Once again, he lost only 3 fumbles all season long.

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by HornChamps on Dec 28, 2007 11:54 PM CST up 0 recs

4 lost fumbles

I couldn't find the fumbles data, but Jamaal lost at least 4 fumbles.

2 in the Central Florida game
1 OU and 1 in the Rice game

What do you mean 'only' 3? Even 3 is a high number!

In Mack & Rick We Trust.

by Cyrus on Dec 29, 2007 1:00 AM CST up 0 recs

sort of

Compared to Ricky Williams as a senior, it's not that high. Compared to McFadden, it's really low. Compared to Mike Hart it's obscenely high. If coaches can get Tiki Barber to quit fumbling, they can get Jamaal to quit fumbling.

by Bob LaBlog on Dec 29, 2007 9:45 AM CST up 0 recs

I've made it very clear

He gradually lost carries, and thus playing time from the 1st game to Iowa State, SPECIFICALLY because of his fumbling problem. Once again, your ignoring my questions and posting irrelevant statistics.

Cyrus, I'm having the same problem. Not that I've tried real hard, but I can find any fumble stats for individual players. ESPN has the statistic, but at least for JC, it doesn't have anything. It's all zeroes under the fumbles and fumbles lost category.

by goingforthecorner on Dec 29, 2007 3:23 AM CST up 0 recs