A Hypothetical Question...

by MattMiller on Dec 3, 2007 11:18 PM CST Comment 28 comments

I know this is far-fetched, so don't give me the standard "never happen" response. I want you to think about this...

What if Mack Brown were forced to retire tomorrow, for any reason you can imagine, and Bob Stoops took over as HC at UT?

I would personally do back flips.

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what?!

I'll assassinate Stoops! That's something I can not handle.

In Mack We Trust.

by Cyrus on Dec 3, 2007 11:48 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

You know it's a winner

when someone actively suggests murder as a response.

So take that.

by Kahuna on Dec 4, 2007 7:55 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Eat shit

No burnt orange faithfull would ever take his douchebag ass!

He's like Vince Young in the 4th quarter.

by getupcolt on Dec 4, 2007 3:28 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

I think this is a fair question and one that I personally would like to see debated to some extent. Put the personal feelings for Crybaby Stoops aside and simply ask yourself, what would the last 10 years have been like at Texas had Stoops been here instead of Mack. My personal opinion is that Texas would have at least two - three additional conference championships and one additional national championship. I hate Stoops with a passion, but he's a hell of a coach and I would have liked to see what he could have accomplished with all of the talent that passed through Austin over the past decade. I would like to think I could put my personal disdain for Stoopsy aside in exchange for several additional championships - does that mean I am selling my soul?

by Screw O.U. on Dec 4, 2007 6:49 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

In addition to those conference championships

we would also be under investigation by the NCAA for providing improper benefits.

I agree with PB. He is a very good coach, but I do not want him anywhere near Austin.

by Brandon 97 on Dec 4, 2007 8:29 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I'm not saying

I want him at Texas. I am simply looking for other people's opinions of what he might have accomplished at Texas over the past decade with the talent that has come through. Assume, as hard as it is, that he came to Austin instead of Mack, runs a clean program and is given the same deck of cards Mack Brown has been given - what does he do with them? My point is not that Stoopsy should replace Mack, but that Mack needs to have a little bit of the fire in his belly that Stoops seems to have.

by Screw O.U. on Dec 4, 2007 12:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

yes

I agree, someone needs to light that fire & get him going or we are looking at more Holiday Bowl games in our future.

by Texas4ever on Dec 5, 2007 6:55 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

He's better than what we've got

and the great DKR came from Oklahoma too. Pie in the sky dreams for sure, but if the planets aligned, pigs all the sudden were flying, and hell becomes the new winter vacation spot, then I'd be on board 100%.

"What I gave today I kept. What I kept today I lost." - DKR

by WinstonPeril on Dec 4, 2007 7:02 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

poop pn stoops

by abcdmetrius on Dec 4, 2007 7:42 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

Stoops is a terrific coach

And I want no piece of him.

--PB--

by Peter Bean on Dec 4, 2007 8:19 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

Just because he is a great coach...

Doesn't mean he would be a good fit for Texas. Personally, I think he is a win-at-all-costs kind of coach with questionable ethics and I would not want him at Texas, even if he is a better coach than Mack Brown. Look, we can always look around and say that so-and-so is a better coach, but we have what we have.

In my humble opinion, Tressel is just as good a coach, if not better, and has much more integrity.

by jwill on Dec 4, 2007 9:04 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

I was with you

until you said Tressel. The man is the teflon don of college football.

And Stoops is dirty as well, I mentioned this the last time some one asked this, but I will say it again, Stoops would not work at UT because we don't have the experience hiding the cheating that OU does.

by Wells on Dec 4, 2007 12:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

whoop whoop

You have to admit, we have a lot of car dealerships in town.

by whills on Dec 4, 2007 12:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Amen, Wells.

Tressel? Ethical? Integrity? Is there another Tressel that I don't know about?

by Brandon 97 on Dec 4, 2007 1:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Youngstown State

Didn't Tressel run into some issues with the NCAA while at Youngstown State?

by Screw O.U. on Dec 4, 2007 12:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Maurice Clarett??

by billb on Dec 4, 2007 12:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

more integrity?

You obviously didn't follow the Maurice Clarett case much, or the fact that their QB was in trouble for the very same sort of thing that the OU QB was kicked off the team for.

The difference being at tOSU, when you are a starting QB caught taking money from boosters you're given a two game suspension [which turns into a 1 game and 1 quarter suspension when UT scores and takes an early lead on the Buckeyes at home...]

by longhornJ on Dec 4, 2007 3:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Tressel

I agree with the Tressel comment. He seems to have poise, confidence, and integrity. Great coach but his style is so slow and boring. But with the right atheletes maybe he would open it up more.

No way, no how do I want that butthole Stoops at UT. His brother Mike, at Arizona, is just as much of a butthole.

The Stoops boys played college ball for the Hawkeyes and they (Hawks fans) were mad Stoops chose OU before Iowa could ever contact him. From what I gather, the Hawks are much happier with Ferentz and do not want Stoops - should the opportunity ever arise.

by UTHorns on Dec 4, 2007 9:44 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

Tressel

I am a whole-hearted Mack Brown supporter and, as of right now, do not wish him off of the 40-Acres any time soon. If the extreme off-the-field problems continue, and we continue to hand Oklahoma Big XII titles, that opinion could change. But, like I said, I am a proud member of the Mack Pack.

That said, wouldn't it be amazing to see Tressel in an orange sweater-vest?

Ryan Bailey is my hero, and also my child.

by Bdub on Dec 4, 2007 12:43 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Sure. In Aug-Sept he'll pass smooth out

by the end of the first quarter.

Style only goes so far in a blast furnace.

Now something in a tank top could really scare the opposition.

by whills on Dec 4, 2007 1:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

So, would he be stealing players from Oklahoma?

by whills on Dec 4, 2007 12:56 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

What Players?

There's a reason he steals from Texas.

My kid may have given up a costly fumble against OU, but at least he's never been accused of face raping.

by Shake on Dec 4, 2007 6:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

'Twas snark, Shake.

by whills on Dec 4, 2007 9:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Osborne vs. Switzer

Just think what Osborne had to go through in the 80s - he was putting up his usual 9-10 win seasons with Integrity, but it was Switzer who was running the renegade program (don't think Stoops is as bad in this regard) and winning the MNCs.

Seems like a repeat here to some degree. Can you imagine though the scrutiny Osborne would have gotten had he been doing the same thing just 20 years later?

But at the end of the day, it all worked out for Obsborne & the program in the 90s, and he will certainly be more fondly remembered than Switzer historically.

Mack could be on the same track.

by LeftHandedTexan on Dec 5, 2007 11:50 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

Osborne well remembered?

Are you ocn crack?

Lawrence Phillips dragging a girl down the stairs by her hair ring a bell?

Serial rapist Christian Peters ring a bell?

The drunken Vedral brothers ring a bell?

Nebraska became THE renegade program of college football in the '90s.

by Beergut on Dec 5, 2007 5:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Not on Crack...

Outside of Blogger Nation, yes, I think Osborne is well remembered.

I think those issues that you mention seemed to stick to the players themselves and not the Program, as opposed to what happened at OU. The perception was, mostly by virtue of his personality, that it was Switzer who was allowing it to happen.

Take all of the off the field stuff that happened in Austin this year, and I'm willing to bet that it won't be the first thing that people think of when it comes to Mack Brown in 10 years.

by LeftHandedTexan on Dec 5, 2007 9:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs