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Just a few points before some serious mourning.

  1. It's not instructive to try and pinpoint this loss on any one person. Some will try - ignore them. Truth be told, Durant didn't play very well. Augustin played terribly. Barnes didn't prepare the team well for the Trojans. Atchley was awful. JD Lewis is a Division 8 player. The point is: no one had a good day. Even Durant - the best player I've ever seen - was subpar. It happens.
  2. USC played well. The Trojans had a good game plan and executed it. Credit to their coach; credit to their team.
  3. The lack of a post presence on this team was a problem for Texas all season, and a decisive one today. USC pressured Durant and Augustin on the perimeter and disallowed them to work near the basket. Without any credible threat in the post, Texas wound up settling for far too many outside jumpshots.
  4. Again, please just ignore the critics who want to say Rick Barnes is to be singularly faulted for today's loss. Remember, too, that this season he did a magnificent job with this extremely young team. We've been short a big guy and vulnerable to physical teams all year, so I guess I'm not surprised that we got muscled out of the tournament today.
  5. Hey, if there's one bright spot, it's that this is one awful way for Durant to end his career at Texas. Maybe he'll feel compelled to return.

    --PB--

Update [2007-3-18 20:10:1 by awiggo]: I'll add a few of my thoughts to PB's. I fell in love with this Texas team and am devastated that this season ended so quickly. Kevin Durant is the best player I have ever seen play college basketball, DJ Augustin is as good as any freshman point guard in the country, and AJ Abrams is one of the streakiest and deadliest shooters in the country, but this was not a complete team.

Those of us who watch every game have commented, all year and even before the season started, about our lack of a post presence, about the difficulty of teaching defense to four freshman starters, about how stagnant our offense looks when Augustin is on the bench or in foul trouble, about our inability to rebound out of the 2-3 zone or our difficulty rebounding at all when we start three players under 6'3".

Many of these warts popped up again this afternoon in Spokane. We didn't rebound well, turned the ball over way too many times, and got bullied around by a physical and hot shooting team.

Congrats to Tim Floyd and the Trojans. They play well, hard, and physical and did their absolute best to limit Durant's impact on the game.

All that said, this was a fantasic year and anyone who wants to cut scholarships or demonize single players for poor performances or pray certain contributors graduate is not adding anything constructive to this blog.

Say that Lewis needs to get quicker, or Atchley needs to play bigger, or Abrams needs to do a better job recognizing good shots, or Augustin needs to get stronger, or Barnes needs to call more timeouts or work on his motion offense. But saying someone sucks or should be kicked off the team is juvenile analysis at best.

Congrats to Coach Barnes for recruiting and signing the best player ever to wear burnt orange and for providing Horns' fans across the country an awesome product to cheer for. Already looking forward to next year, with or without Kevin Durant, as Gary Johnson, Clint Chapman, Alexis Wangmene, and maybe Dogus Balbay join the Longhorns.

Hook 'Em.

--AW--

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So, how much will
the new recruits help on the inside next year?

by JohnsonUT on Mar 18, 2007 6:40 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Some
Freshmen can help, but they need time.

We need more from Hill, need more from Pittman, need more from James.

--PB--

by Peter Bean on Mar 18, 2007 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

True
Hopefully Connor will work hard and will be more manageable next year.  If he can just give us an interior presence on defense and occasionally get a put back without fouling or turning the ball over, he will deserve some playing time.  Is there a chance for this sort of growth or am I dreaming?

by JohnsonUT on Mar 18, 2007 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

hopefully Connor will fold
under all the due criticism he is receiving and go into seclusion.  Connor will never be good b/c he is a mental puss who is scared of contact and of screwing up.
Crystal Balls

by MMHorns on Mar 18, 2007 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

connor atchley
this guy will never contribute - it's his third year in the program and he still plays like a freshman.

the only thing he does now is stay out of foul trouble.

by cortexas on Mar 18, 2007 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

A little angry?
Connor will get better and contribute more, we saw flashes of it this year, and he will get better in the next two years.

by Wells on Mar 19, 2007 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Reminds me of Klotz and Boddiger (sp)
People were just brutal to those guys in the early days. They became solid players in the end.

Boddinger reminds me of Atchley. The problem for Atchley is that he's a low post guy trying to moonlight as a jump shooter. They want him to be physical, but I think Atchley is more comfortable shooting 3s -- and playing fluff ball.

If he can show some solid defense next year I don't really care what he does on offense. He needs to take himself off the liability ledger and on to the assets as a defensive player.  

Cats and dogs sleeping together.

by EYESofBEVO on Mar 19, 2007 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agree with you
That his progression will be similar to theirs.

Connor is not and will never be as strong as Boddicker and Klotz, but he is faster and has way more blocks than they did (he is our second leading shot blocker with 50, and that is with a third less minutes than James, who had 42).  Boddicker had 32 in similar minutes in 2001-2002 and Klotz had 9 in a third less minutes).

Connor just needs to learn that he can stand his ground a little more, make his put backs and open shots at the low post, and keep on shooting the outside shot, but only when he is wide open.  

I know some of you will disagree with that last point, but having big men who are not afraid to hit the 15 to 21 foot jumpers forces big men to follow them and frees up the lane more for driving guards.

by Wells on Mar 19, 2007 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also, if Barnes was throwing JD
in to try to get something to work, why did Pittman never get a chance?  We could have used an extra rebound or two before the game was out of hand.

by JohnsonUT on Mar 18, 2007 6:42 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

NO FUCKING SHIT!
After JD went into the game for the second time, I turned off the game because that was essentially a towel being thrown in in the form of a tiny white boy.  
Horns up, Okies Down.

by kicker on Mar 19, 2007 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kudos Peter
I'm not in the mood to write anything resembling coherent thoughts on UT basketball.  But I'll keep reading dammit!

I'll be better in the morning...

Street level

by UT2001 on Mar 18, 2007 6:43 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

This loss will be hurt for a while,
At least until the tournament is over.  Unless Kansas or A&M win it all.  Then it will hurt forever.

by JohnsonUT on Mar 18, 2007 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

KU and A&M will make the Final Four
get yourself there mentally.  Then when it doesnt happen, it's a plus.

by the other Andrew on Mar 18, 2007 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Barnes....
Had a great year coaching this team. One of his best. It's ok to be upset that so many poor decisions were made by him today though. Or I think it is at least.

As an overall body of work, this was a great season. The most fun I've ever had watching a UT basketball team.  It's this reason I'm so upset we weren't prepared to play today.

Zero adjustments were made by us throughout this game. None. That, I'm afraid, is the coaches fault.

by Blitzburgh on Mar 18, 2007 6:48 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

ha
Yes, it is. The wrong kind unfortunately.

by Blitzburgh on Mar 18, 2007 6:53 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

How can you say no adjustments were made?
He had his players switching off on different players.  His starters weren't getting it done, so he tried his very thin bench.  Nothing worked for him, but you can't say he made NO adjustments.  Look, I'm not saying Barnes can't do things better, but guys that act like they know what he should do are just kidding themselves.

by HookeminOKC on Mar 18, 2007 6:54 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Puzzled...
how in one sentence you can cogently and incisively point out all the shortcomings of this team, both acute and chronic; then, in the other sentence, you completely exculpate barnes of all responsibility. You did the same the same thing wiht mack after last year's season-ending collapse vs kstate and a&m. NO individual has the kind of power and influence in shaping a team as a college head coach, boht in terms of long-term vision and short-term motivation and tactics. Is it a coincidence that our had football and basketball coaches are both regarded as great recruiters but horrible game coaches on a national perspective.

by mento on Mar 18, 2007 6:55 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

All I can say is
Coaches are given waaaaay too much credit and blame in sports.

That is all.

--PB--

by Peter Bean on Mar 18, 2007 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that may well be true
in the pros, but not in college. A colllege head coach is tactician, recruiter, mother, father, priest, GM, and confidant for his team. There are no directors of player personnel, no heads of football operations, nobody with the title "president and ceo". The decision-making powers begin and end with the head coach. The problem I have with this team is not that they lost to usc. sc is a good team and the 5 seed. After all 3 of the 4 4vs 5 matchups were won by hte lower seed this weekend. It was the way they lost-completely abandoning hte principles of team-oriented basketball on offense(ie moving without the ball) and showing little or no interest in playing sound defense. Defense, to a degree more than offense, is about discipline and desire. The horns showed none of that today just as the football team showed none in the final two games of the regular season.

by mento on Mar 18, 2007 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I ask you this, then
Might you be expecting a little too much from four freshman and a sophomore? Think back to when you were 18. I don't know about you, but I was (relative to my current state) barely functional. I like to think I was a reasonably mature 18 year old, and thinking back, I was absolutely -overwhelmed- by almost -everything-

It's easy to dream big with this team because of the talent, but it's hard to imagine a team that was THIS young not laying an egg at some point. We were hopeful they wouldn't, but saying that the coach is to be chastised when they do seems overly-harsh. At least to me.

With that said, I have my gripes with Rick Barnes. Always have, and I'm wise enough these days to know that I probably always will. Still, the man is going to keep putting us in a spot to be competitive for Big 12 and national titles. Like Mack Brown, if we don't run him out of town before it happens, he's likely to have all the pieces fall into place at some point.

That we didn't do it this year hurts like hell, and some of Rick's weaknesses were certainly a part of the problem, but he also put together the most exciting Texas team I've ever seen. And had ALdridge or Tucker stayed this year - I say Texas is a favorite to make Atlanta, and maybe we cut down the nets.

All told, life as a Texas basketball fan is very, very good.

--PB--

by Peter Bean on Mar 18, 2007 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know this cant really be measured, but...
how much do yall think fatigue played into the loss today and the near loss on Friday?

That's what I want to blame the loss on.

by the other Andrew on Mar 18, 2007 6:55 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Well..
I know you should find a way to tell the best player on the court to get to the foul line by going to the hole. His outside shot wasnt going all day, but he settled for it far too often.

I know that you dont continue trapping when you're only down 14 with 6 minutes left when they break the trap EVERY single time, leading to layups, and/or fouls.

Oh well. I still love Rick and it's got to be hard to get every last point across to 18 year olds. But I thought it was pretty obvious we were outcoached today by a better prepared and more hungry team.

by Blitzburgh on Mar 18, 2007 6:58 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

sending us to Spokane....
was the kiss of death.

we've played shitty on all the long road trips -

NYC, AZ, Philly, Spokane.

by cortexas on Mar 18, 2007 7:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Durant gone?
I agree it would be nice to see KD come back.  ESPN is reporting Danny Ainge and the Boston Celtics were fined $30,000 for improper contact with  Durant's mom.

This has probably been discussed elsewhere on this site, but I think KD will go out and get picked by the Celtics (if they have 1st pick).

Hopefully KD makes the decision he wants to make.  Kind of crappy that Ainge could be pressuring.  Sad to potentially see this be KD's last game at a Longhorn.....

by TXBuckeye on Mar 18, 2007 7:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

What about Augustine?
Any chance he goes too?
"A lot of people look for the easy way to do anything, in swimming there is no easy way." - Eddie Reese

by SwimTexas on Mar 18, 2007 7:20 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Already says
he is staying, which is good for the program and good for DJ's development.
Cats and dogs sleeping together.

by EYESofBEVO on Mar 18, 2007 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think it would be a BIG mistake.
He is an undersized point guard.  He better be damn good to go early.  Until he can take college games over consistently, he will not be at that level.

by JohnsonUT on Mar 18, 2007 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I suppose much of the harsh criticism
is from the realization that we had one of the best players to ever play college bball and, through a variety of circumstances mainly among them that we didn't have enough experienced / right pieces around KD, we were dominated in the 2nd round by an inferior team.  The average fan, myself included, wants to believe that when you have a guy like KD, you should be able to find a way to be any good team.  We couldn't today.  

Bottom line, we have had a nice run of tourney play the last few yeras and a game like today is going to happen every once in a while (just hurts more when the every once in a while is with a 1 in a million guy like KD).

by STL Horn on Mar 18, 2007 7:37 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Not disapointed
This year was fantastic. I knew this team would be a sweet 16 team at best when Michigan State escaped with a last second win.

KD or no KD, Texas has a good nucleus for what could be an Elite Eight team next year.

Last year's team had all the personnel for a Final Four run. Had Rick Barnes run high-low last year against LSU, who knows?

The USC game was Texas in a microcosm. Two players accounted for almost 90 percent of the offense. The rest of the team could not or would not contribute.

Besides a bench, Texas needs to find a floor leader. Some one who will yell and back slap and get the team up. KD did not show that type of leadership. Heck, what freshman does?

Great season. Glad I saw KD play. Looking forward to a great season next year too, KD or no KD.

by milevin on Mar 18, 2007 7:40 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Postivie Personal Note
Last year my wife shattered her foot celebrating Gibson's shot to send LSU game into overtime.  She had to have surgery and was off it for 4-5 months.  At least this year she came through injury free.

by JohnsonUT on Mar 18, 2007 7:44 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

PJ Tucker
goddamn this would have been a Final Four team if he would have stuck around.

by cortexas on Mar 18, 2007 7:48 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Would you have rather had PJ or Gibson stay?
PJ is the really unfortunate one since he hasn't really set the league on fire.  Another year wouldn't have hurt him in any way.

We could of used Gibson in the backcourt today as a floor leader.  Augustin is not quite conistent enough.  Hard for a frosh PG to lead a team come tourney time.  Just rarely happens.

by STL Horn on Mar 18, 2007 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kevin, we hardly knew ye
I'm terribly disappointed, but the better team won today. The same shortcomings we've had all year - too short, no depth, mediocre at best defense, did us in. Kevin, thanks for the memories, too few and too brief, I fear.    P.S. I don't believe the incoming recruits address our size problems, true?
I never will forget ol' what's-his-name.

by Horntod on Mar 18, 2007 8:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Forgive the formatting...
NUMBER    NAME    HT.    WT.    CLASS    POS    HOMETOWN
03    A.J. Abrams    5-10    155    Jr    G    Round Rock, TX (McNeil)
14    D.J. Augustin    5-11    175    So    G    New Orleans, LA (Brother Martin)
04    J.D. Lewis    6-1    180    Sr    G    Amarillo, TX (Midland [TX] College)
24    Justin Mason    6-2    185    So    G    Amarillo, TX (Palo Duro)
??    Dogus Balbay    6-1    170    Fr    G    New Hampshire - originally Turkey
23    Harrison Smith    6-2    185    So    G    Houston, TX (Jones)
35    Kevin Durant    6-9    225    So    G/F    Suitland, MD (Montrose Christian)
05    Damion James    6-7    227    So    F    Nacogdoches, TX (Nacogdoches)
22    Ian Mooney    6-3    225    Sr    F    Austin, TX (Saint Louis University)
??    Alexis Wangmene    6-8    230    Fr    F    NJ (Blair Academy) -orig. San Antonio
??    Gary Johnson    6-6    210    Fr    F    Houston, TX (Aldine)
??    Clint Chapman    6-10    245    Fr    F/C    Canby, Oregon
32    Connor Atchley    6-9    225    Jr    F/C    Clear Lake, TX (Clear Lake)
21    Matt Hill    6-9    230    So    F/C    Lincoln, NE (Southeast)
34    Dexter Pittman    6-10    293    So    C    Rosenberg, TX (Terry)

Next years lineup with Durant looks pretty unstoppable.  Without Durant, looks offensively challenged.  

Thoughts?

"A lot of people look for the easy way to do anything, in swimming there is no easy way." - Eddie Reese

by SwimTexas on Mar 18, 2007 8:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

James has to be the man
I think Damion James will really shine without Durant in the lineup.  I wouldn't trade a single thing Durant did this year, but having one player be such a huge part of your offense is going to effect the development of the rest of the team.  Mason and James are going to be great players, and now the offense should let be more well balanced, giving them a chance to show what they are made of.

James only improved all season, and Mason showed flashes of offensive potential.  With Abrams on the wing (please let him spend 3 hours a day on ball handling), and an NBA point guard, next year's team is going to be fine.

I think calling JD Lewis a Division 8 player is being nice.  How is it possible that he is even on the team, there are better players playing at open gym at Gregory.... I'm serious...

by the1austin on Mar 18, 2007 9:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

3-pt shooting
I think the fact that 43% of their shots were 3-pointers says something about this game.  I know it is stating the obvious, but it seemed like their youth contributed to their unwillingness to work the ball inside to Durant (due to their impatience).  Blame whoever you want, but when the offense is continually jacking 3s, it makes it hard to get into a groove, and even harder to get offensive rebounds. I think this is the same kind of play that is eventually going to be Ohio St's undoing as well.
GO BRUINS. HOOK 'EM HORNS.

A Trojan can only be used once. A Bruin is forever.

by uclawarren on Mar 18, 2007 10:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

defense
I'd attribute that 43% to USC's defense. They didn't allow penetration, off the dribble or via interior passes. They forced us to win with shots 15ft and further, and they weren't falling for us.

I didn't get to see the game in its entirety, just 5 minutes here and there since I was at work, but when I did watch, that what I observed. I could be wrong though.

...til Gabriel blows his horn

by BigTexBD on Mar 18, 2007 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

10 Million Dollar game?
Can someone just put a bug in Durant's ear that if he stays one more year he'll be worth another $10MM?

Really, his performance tonight on the national stage didn't really showcase his talents.  Why not stay one more year, have the best time of his entire life, and increase his 5 yr. salary in the pro's by a cool 10 million?

by Born Orange on Mar 18, 2007 10:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Durant
has already earned his money for next year. He could have shot 2/20 and scored six points and it wouldn't have affected his earning potential for next season.

If he declares, Durant will be the #1 or #2 overall selection. He will reveive a huge signing bonus, a three year guaranteed contract, a ridiculous Nike deal, and countless other endorsement offers.

Durant can't earn any more money by returning to UT for an additional season. He could get stronger, become a better defender, or more skilled rebounder, but he won't earn more money.

--AW--

by awiggo on Mar 18, 2007 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Call me crazy
but I think this game really put into focus what a good job Barnes did this year.  We struggled all year to play defense, rebound and get inside socring and that we were able to win as many games as we did is a credit to him and the how he prepared his team.

I think many of us, myself included, got caught up in the potential of this team.  It was hard not to after taking Kansas (which is a VERY good, loaded, talented, more experienced, more balanced team) to the brink twice - hell if not for a crazy carom off of the backboard and over James' outstretched arm, or KD passing the ball with a few seconds left, we probably win the Big XII championship.  But we relied almost completely on 2 players, and when one of them gets completely outplayed and the other is a little off from his usual ridiculous norm, we were in big trouble.

This team didn't have all of the pieces that it needed to have to truly compete in the tournament.  It does suck to get blown out like we did, especially to a team like USC.  I will say, however, that I didn't relish the prospect of playing UNC or Gerogetown.

by SaintBevo on Mar 18, 2007 10:42 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Next Year's Team will be Better
With the interior oriented recruits coming in next year, we'll definitely be a better team with or without Mr. Durant. There will be a more balance of a  inside and outside game. All in all, next year will really show if Barnes can coach or not.

by CaliforniaHorn on Mar 18, 2007 10:46 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Just heard a quote from Durant
on the  10pm NBC newscast here in Dallas.  He said (hold on have to rewind the DVR)"I want a National Championship, I am not going to settle for a second round loss..."

Maybe just wishful thinking on my part.

by Top Jimmy on Mar 18, 2007 10:46 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

What he says now
doesn't matter.  I'm sure right now he wants to come back.  After a little while, logic will set in and leaving will make the most sense.  I'm sure even Barnes will tell him that.  Even if he definitely wants to come back, it will be tough to make that call with everyone in the world telling him he has to go.

by SaintBevo on Mar 18, 2007 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

When the Nike people come to the door
with that $50 million dollar endorsement check, KD will have his dorm room packed up by the next day.  Sad but true.  
Horns up, Okies Down.

by kicker on Mar 19, 2007 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Would love to believe it
I hope the loss left as bad a taste in KD's mouth as I did in all of ours.  However, I still say his NBA millions will buy a lot of Listerine.

by TempestHorn on Mar 18, 2007 10:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

as IT DID IN ALL OF OURS
not sure what I did in all ours!

by TempestHorn on Mar 18, 2007 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I assure you
You did NOTHING in my mouth.

by GoHorns on Mar 19, 2007 7:35 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

what's the over/under
on the number of times simmons makes some version of the "barnes got outcoached by tim floyd!" joke in his fake blog tomorrow?  i put it at 7.

by billyzane on Mar 19, 2007 12:00 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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