Pacman Suspended for the Season

by roywilliamsisgod on Apr 10, 2007 1:29 PM CDT Comment 14 comments

Pacman Jones has been suspended for the entire NFL season due to his idiotic behavior off the field. Aside from Champ Bailey, I would argue that he is the second most dangerous D-Back in the league. This is a serious blow to the Titan's defense, but it is almost impossible to argue against it due to the dude's insidious actions in the past year.

Let's hope Vince can do even more on the offensive end to make up for the loss. We all know he can!

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that's crap

i'm not a fan of the guy at all
but come on ... an entire season???
at least have him be convicted of something

by abcdmetrius on Apr 10, 2007 1:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Reason

One of the reasons he was suspended was not telling his team and the NFL he was arrested last year. That violation opened up everything.

by sportsfan on Apr 10, 2007 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

If conviction is required...

than athletes would never get suspended. Very rich, high profile athletes have the annoying habit of avoiding conviction where you or I would end up in jail.

There's a big difference between being "not guilty" and being "innocent". He's been arrested more times than he's intercepted the ball; if you think he's truly innocent, and that every instance is merely a case of wrong-place wrong-time or over aggressive police, say so. If you really think the NFL should wait until convictions are handed out, be willing to accept the consequence; Pacman may never be punished for anything.

by Red Blooded on Apr 10, 2007 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

yea but that's overkill

again ... i'm really not justifying anything that guy did
but there has to be separation from work and personal life
politicians get in more trouble than this guy and arent forced to not work for a year

by abcdmetrius on Apr 10, 2007 1:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

To be fair

Politicians are pretty much viewed as a joke anyway.

by GoHorns on Apr 10, 2007 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well...

politicians get in more trouble than this guy and arent forced to not work for a year

They should. And many are removed permanently from public service either by forced resignations or through the electoral process. The legal system works a whole lot better against politicians than it does against athletes anyways, if only because the public demands a lot more accountability and many parts of the judiciary are tacitly political, anyways.

by Red Blooded on Apr 10, 2007 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Set an example.

From all accounts, the dude ordered the shooting of an innocent bouncer. The guy is now paralyzed! If that's not a punishable offense, I don't know what is. By making millions and millions of dollars as an entertainer, an NFL player makes his personal life public. That's part of the job. It's not like Pacman secluded himself from public spectacle.

by roywilliamsisgod on Apr 10, 2007 1:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

then set the same standards for everyone

i'm not justifying anything he did or didnt do
i just dont think that's reason to get suspend from work
UNLESS you cant make it to work because of the things you did

by abcdmetrius on Apr 10, 2007 1:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I assure you

that your current place of employment is interested in your criminal background, which is why they ask. The NFL is an organization whose financial viability is married to a number of factors, one being their public image. In so far as Pacman Jones sullies the image of the NFL, he's hurting that organization's revenue. That's just one (and in my opinion sufficient) of a number of ways the NFL can justify suspending players for malfeance.

by Red Blooded on Apr 10, 2007 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

right criminal background

they dont ask you have you been arrested
they ask if you've been convicted of anything

by abcdmetrius on Apr 10, 2007 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Many employers

do ask if you've ever been arrested.

by Red Blooded on Apr 10, 2007 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

What about the CBA

I don't know all of the details of the collective bargaining agreement in the NFL, but I would think that a personal conduct code and the punishments that go with it would have to be agreed upon by the players. This seems to be inserting language into a contract after it had already been signed. I'm sure that the team has some recourse since Jones did violate his contract by not disclosing his summer arrests, I just don't understand the role of the league in this situation.

by Bob LaBlog on Apr 10, 2007 2:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Link

to the CBA on Commissioner discipline is here. Quoting:

"All disputes... involving action taken against a player by the Commissioner for conduct detrimental to the integrity of, or public confidence in, the game of professional football, will be processed exclusively as follows: the commissioner will promptly send written notice of his action to the player, with a copy to the NFLPA. Within twenty (20) days following such written notification, the player affected thereby, or the NFLPA with the player's approval, may appeal in writing to the Commissioner."

by Red Blooded on Apr 10, 2007 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs