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Today's Headlines: Longhorns In The NFL Draft, Jeremy Hills, Terrelle Pryor To Visit Texas

Let's start with the NFL Draft, where seven Longhorns were selected over the weekend. It was the most since seven 'Horns were drafted in 1992, and marked the second consecutive year that 6+ Longhorns were selected. Texas has also now had a player selected in the first round in each of the last four years - the first time that's happened since 1977-1980.

I'd be remiss not to note, too, that Texas A&M had as many players drafted this weekend as my family did. Oklahoma? All Day - a special talent - was taken in the top ten, but the Sooners were shut out after that until Rufus Alexander (6th round) and C.J. Ah You (7th) were selected. On the surface, this doesn't mean all that much. After all, Texas won't win any more games in 2007 by losing seven NFL-caliber players.

Don't think, though, that high school recruits don't keep an eye on these things. And don't believe for a second that the Texas coaches won't be whispering to them about how much better they are at developing players for the pros than their rivals. It doesn't even matter how much truth there is in that, either - when 13 Longhorns are drafted over a two-year span, recruits will pay attention. These kids all want to play pro ball. The message they're getting is: "Go to Texas. They develop NFL players."

In any case, congratulations to all the national-title winning Longhorns who were drafted this weekend. Best of luck, also, to Tully Janszen, Ramonce Taylor, Selvin Young, and Lyle Sendlein as they try to latch on as undrafted rookie free agents.

Orangebloods notes that 2008 Texas recruit Jeremy Hills was named the MVP at Saturday's Fort Worth Nike Camp. Hills didn't have to attend, of course - he's not hoping to pick up scholarship offers - but he wanted to test his mettle against other top prospects. Fine by me. Dan Buckner, the prize of the '08 recruiting class at wide receiver, was the only other Texas commit in attendance.

Jerry Scarborough, author of the popular "True Orange" newsletter update, is reporting that the nation's top quarterback prospect, Terrelle Pryor will, in fact, visit Texas. If you've seen videos of this kid, the comparisons to Vince Young are not without merit. He's gigantic, ridiculously athletic, and has that uncanny ability to make people miss. Frankly, if I'm Pryor, I have to give Texas a long, hard look, if for no other reason than because there's exactly zero chance that the coaches won't misappropriate your talent. Mack Brown and Greg Davis have been VY Baptized - they'd know just what to do with him. The number of scholarships available for Mack Brown is dwindling, but you can be damn sure that the staff would do anything necessary to make room for Pryor if he is in fact interested.

--PB--

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Don't forget Selvin

Good luck to Selvin also.  It seemed like there was always someone ahead of him, but I still think he's a talented back.  Maybe someone will pick him up in free agency for his return skills?

by oregonlonghorn on Apr 30, 2007 12:56 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes, yes

I knew I was forgetting somebody.

Best of luck to SY, as well.

Now added to the post - thanks.

--PB--

by Peter Bean on Apr 30, 2007 1:16 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

we need

Pryor. I dont care how we get him, we just need Pryor.
Can you imagine, Chiles and Pryor in the same backfield? thats sick!

by deysmak on Apr 30, 2007 7:56 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I have two concerns with Pryor

Then you can blast me, because truly, I can't disagree with what you say.  That would be sick.

  1. The biggest concern I see is that this would not be good from a standpoint of getting a kid like Russell Shepard from the class of '09.  And I know, 1 in the hand > 2 in the bush, or however that goes.  But Russell is in the running for the #1 spot next year.  And he is absolutely Texas' if they want him.  And they do.  He grew up a Texas fan, adores Vince, trains with the people that trained Vince, wears #10, and is truly a good kid.  We are getting very close to the point where we have too much talent at the QB position and kids are going to see that and go elsewhere.  And Shepard is not the kind of guy I'd like to see in any color other than Burnt Orange.  Pryor is a longshot.  Let's just be honest about that.  He is.  But I agree that he is just an outstanding talent that just can't be passed up.
  1. Pryor is an amazing B-ball talent as well and has said that he wants to try his hand at basketball as well.  If Jermichael Finley isn't going to lace them up, I can pretty much guarantee that they won't let a star QB play for Rick Barnes.  It's just that simple.

Having said that, I will not complain one bit if I see him playing for Texas.

by GoHorns on Apr 30, 2007 8:06 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

havent heard of this kid...

but i beleive you. You got anything on youtube on this kid?

by deysmak on Apr 30, 2007 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i meant

russell shepard... is he on youtube? i tried searching but theres nothing right now

by deysmak on Apr 30, 2007 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nothing on YouTube

But here is a link to his high school highlights (on the highschool's website).

http://schools.cfisd.net/cyridge/Ath...

Just watch for #10 - QB.  The first game against Klein starts with pretty much nothing but Shepard clips.  Also, keep in mind that these are from his Soph. year and his first year playing QB.  All reports are that he's improving rather quickly, and has a strong desire to be the best.  Enjoy!

by GoHorns on May 1, 2007 7:17 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

How exactly would that work?

Which QB do you have at running back?  If anything, if they are on the field at the same time, one will be a wide out.

by Wells on Apr 30, 2007 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

not exactly sure...

but for starters, something like the Florida backfield when both Tebow and Leak were. Now I understand it might take ages for GD to reframe his way of working but nevertheless, its a start. I might come up with some more, later

by deysmak on Apr 30, 2007 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can't remember them ever being in

at the same time.

I liked what Florida did by subbing in Tebow for running situations, and I think we could use some of that this year, but having 2 QBs on the field at the same time just limits your options too much.

by Wells on May 2, 2007 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If someone had told me

before the start of last season that Tarrell Brown and Rufus Alexander wouldn't be drafted until mid-second day I would have thought they were crazy.
Rufus waited too long to come out, because his stock was up last year. Brown could end up being a steal for San Fran.

If you look back on the 2002 - 2004 recruiting classes at OU it is insane they have so few draft picks.

Cats and dogs sleeping together.

by EYESofBEVO on Apr 30, 2007 8:42 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Interesting Draft analysis on Rivals

Takes the top 10 from the classes of 2002-2004 and tracks where they've landed in the NFL.

NFL Analysis

Shows two things: a top ranking on the Rivals 100 does not automatically translate to NFL draft success (see Ryan Moore, Jorrie Adams, Rhett Bomar) and all this panic over the success OU is having with the 2008 is just unwarranted.

Officially a Limey Longhorn

by patienthornsfan on Apr 30, 2007 1:55 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Lorenzo Booker comes to mind

I don't think he'd go any higher even if Bowden's half wit son hadn't been coaching him. He just wasn't as good as advertised. The recruit sites really whiffed on his ranking.

USC prospects didn't do so well either. Sarz, Smith, Meluga, etc were all 5 star prospect who fizzled in the draft. Even Jarrett didn't get picked all that high.
All this time I've been led to believe that Trojan players are immortal all-powerful celestial beings gracing us with their very presence on planet earth.

Interesting stuff....

Cats and dogs sleeping together.

by EYESofBEVO on Apr 30, 2007 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Correction

looking back none of those USC players were 5 stars. They were all 4 stars.

Looking back on USC recruiting classes it looks like a large portion of their top recruits never play (except for Scott Ware the 5 star).

Cats and dogs sleeping together.

by EYESofBEVO on Apr 30, 2007 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Stewie noticed it too

Speaking of which, have you noticed NFL types seem to have a far lower regard for the Trojans than their college accolades would lead you to believe? The latest victims: Receivers Dwayne Jarrett and Steve Smith, both of whom were named to various All-America first teams last season, but both slipped into the second round. (Meanwhile, Michigan cornerback Leon Hall, the same guy Jarrett abused in the Rose Bowl, somehow went 30 picks earlier.)

For a program that's gone 59-6 since 2002 and played for three national titles, you would think the Trojans would be churning out first-round picks the way Miami did earlier this decade. Over a four-year period from 2001-'04, the Hurricanes had 19 such players; USC has had seven in five years. Making the phenomenon all the more puzzling is that the Trojans run their program as close to an NFL franchise as any in the country, and, with one notable and unusual exception (Mike Williams), most high USC draft picks (Carson Palmer, Troy Polamalu, Lofa Tatupu, Matt Leinart, Reggie Bush) have earned their paychecks.

By all accounts, Jarrett suffered in part from unfair comparisons to Williams, a player who shared his position and number but also played one less season and sat out an entire year of competition prior to the draft. I also wonder, however, whether NFL-types' skepticism toward some Trojans goes hand in hand with their skepticism toward Pete Carroll who, despite his raging success in college, is still widely scoffed at in pro circles from his stints with the Jets and Patriots.

Officially a Limey Longhorn

by patienthornsfan on Apr 30, 2007 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oops

Forgot the link.

Officially a Limey Longhorn

by patienthornsfan on Apr 30, 2007 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Aaron Ross

I always enjoy Peter King's "10 Things I Think I Think" columns, partly because they seem like stream of consciousness, partly because they touch on a number of non-sports-related topics. This week, Aaron Ross comes in at #6 on his list:

I think there's a good chance Texas cornerback Aaron Ross, the Giants' first-round pick, could be a star in New York. And soon. He was charming and excited, and sounded like all of us hope the players we cover (in my case) and root for (in the case of Giants fans) would sound after getting picked by the G-men.

"I was outside playing catch with my little nephew and my mom called me because I guess they had my name at the bottom of the screen as a projection,'' he said. "I went in and got the call and immediately my hands started shaking, my heart started pounding; but I am full of excitement right now.''

He said, "I love to man up on guys and take them out of the game.'' Asked about his biggest adjustment to the pro game, he said, sounding about as honest as a kid can, "I think being star-struck. Facing T.O. Facing Chad Johnson. Making myself realize they aren't on a video game anymore or on Sunday Night Football. I am up against them on the other side. Once I get over that, I feel I will be straight."

King

Man I hope King is right. It would be a big boost for the Texas program to have a player making big news in the news capital of the world.

Officially a Limey Longhorn

by patienthornsfan on Apr 30, 2007 8:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Stewie, we wondered too

Here's a mystery for you. How could Texas, with two first-round defensive backs (Aaron Ross and Michael Griffin), a third that got drafted (fifth-rounder Tarrell Brown) and a pair of defensive ends (Tim Crowder and Brian Robison) that went in the second and fourth rounds have fielded the nation's 99th-ranked pass defense last year? You would think opponents wouldn't have been able to complete a pass nevertheless (sic) throw for more than 3,000 yards.

Link

Officially a Limey Longhorn

by patienthornsfan on Apr 30, 2007 8:25 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Last 7 National Champions

It's always interesting to look at draft performance of the Nat'l Champions.

Total Draft picks from 2000 to present for the last 7 National Champs.

Ohio State - 59
Miami - 59
Florida - 46
USC - 40
LSU - 36
OU - 33
Texas - 30

--- We have pansies scheduling our patsies. ---

by HornChamps on May 1, 2007 1:16 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Miami

were are lot of those early in the decade?  If they have that much talent, then they have been wasting it over the last couple of years.  Or is it a case of the pros over scouting Miami?

by Wells on May 2, 2007 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Poor coaching,

suspensions, remaining eligible, etc.  There are a lot of reasons that Miami doesn't live up to the expectations of their players talent.  They consistently get some very high quality talent, but can't get them to produce on the field.  They don't really have to worry about that in the NFL (at least they didn't in the past).

by GoHorns on May 2, 2007 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Interestig......
The question you should be asking yourself Wells is, given all these Top15 recruiting classes, how the heck have we placed only 30 players in the draft? Our player development is such that Ohio State and Miami have almost DOUBLED our results. Doubled!
--- We have pansies scheduling our patsies. ---

by HornChamps on May 4, 2007 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

if you think it's bad now

look at the number of texas players drafted before Mack got here.  

Plus, of those 30 you mentioned, 12 are first rounders.

by the other Andrew on May 5, 2007 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Need more data

What is the average recruiting class ranking of those years, plus the four years before that.  Also, trending would be helpful, how much of our gap was created earlier in the decade when these top 15 classes were just getting started?  How does that number compare to the trending of our recruiting ranking 3 and 4 years before.  Then we can really get the answers.

by Wells on May 7, 2007 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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