Naw, Sooners ain't dumb

by Kahuna on Apr 4, 2007 9:52 AM CDT Comment 15 comments

JD Quinn says, "All I did was take cash."

How dumb do you have to be to think you don't deserve to get punished for breaking one of the NCAA's cardinal rules? Clearly, "Sooner-dumb" is one answer.

He is right in that he didn't break any laws, by stealing a car or something. Heck, I'm not even sure that's a crime anymore. There've been a lot of changes in the law.

Anyway, first Arkansas gets bush-whacked and now this. For a day with no action, this one is shaping up well in my book...

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Is the IRS interested yet?

Did these players pay taxes on this income?

by Bob LaBlog on Apr 4, 2007 10:13 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

i'm pretty sure that's how they got caught

bomar reported all the income on his taxes, which raised some eyebrows. poor kid. so dumb.

though i guess it's arguable whether it's worse getting kicked off the team or breaking federal law...

by billyzane on Apr 4, 2007 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

What about now?

He's made a charitable donation to regain his eligibility. The NCAA isn't a legal body, so it isn't the same as a fine in a criminal preceding. Will he now be eligible for a tax credit?

by Bob LaBlog on Apr 4, 2007 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

L Fing OL

to funny, but the way the tax codes read , YES, no doubt about it.

Just Remember, No Matter What Happens, ou SUCKS.

by ouALWAYSsux on Apr 4, 2007 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

the money was made perfectly legally, whether it was against NCAA rules or not. so a donation would get him a deduction (not a tax credit). though odds are he's taking the standard deduction and not itemizing deductions, so it won't make a difference to the actual taxes he pays.

god, i'm a dork. i actually liked tax law. i need help.

by billyzane on Apr 5, 2007 12:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Any Witte

Did you use any John Witte texts in tax law? He's a policy guy, but the UT Law Library seems to like his tax book. He can name drop better than anyone I've ever been around. His grandfather wrote the original social security legislation.

by Bob LaBlog on Apr 5, 2007 12:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

nope

we used the Schenk text. i imagine because she's a professor here at NYU.

by billyzane on Apr 5, 2007 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

thanks BZ

I commented at work and didn't even think to say Deduction..my bad.........So your gonna be a "Tax Lawyer" ... just kiddin...........

Just Remember, No Matter What Happens, ou SUCKS.

by ouALWAYSsux on Apr 5, 2007 8:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

no to tax law

i find it interesting in a theoretical way, but it's not my thing. i do own a copy of the tax code now though. it's about 2000 pages long. i'm pretty sure no one's ever read it all the way through. sort of like Kant's critique of pure reason. they're about equally dense.

by billyzane on Apr 5, 2007 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm told it's the intellectual end of the law...

but only by tax lawyers - although the two I know best are both pretty bright.

by DC Trojan on Apr 5, 2007 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm a tard

One of my areas of concentration in grad school was tax policy as social policy, specifically the use of tax credits, so I'm really proud of my careless error.

by Bob LaBlog on Apr 6, 2007 12:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

He has a point

We can only hope that more people keep blowing whistles and drag the OU AD through the mud.

April 15th could be a big day. Apparently the NCAA is requiring the AD and Stoops himself attend the meeting, which is out of the norm, unless they are going to put the hammer down or remprimand.

Cats and dogs sleeping together.

by EYESofBEVO on Apr 4, 2007 10:22 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I'm glad he didn't break any laws...

like tearing the tags off his mattresses or something. Wow this is just a rediculous case of a guy who feels like he got wronged, throwing his former team under the bus.

I would say that I hope the NCAA goes after them like the mattress police, but I believe in Karma, and I would be willing to bet that there are those in the 40 acres who would not want an NCAA investigation, so I am going to keep my laghter to myself.

Sorry this is so short, I have an appointment with Dr. Rosenpenis.

"A lot of people look for the easy way to do anything, in swimming there is no easy way." - Eddie Reese

by SwimTexas on Apr 4, 2007 11:03 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

It's thought-provoking, at least

Obviously, this guy is bringing up this point for entirely self-serving reasons. Even so, it is an interesting set of questions to think about.

There are the obvious issues of "what it says about college football" when it's more forbidden to break NCAA rules than it is to break actual laws. Then there's the Stoops-specific question. This kid tried to back-track and say that he wasn't specifically talking about OU when he referred to guys getting busted for drugs and other crimes, but clearly that's where his information comes from. Sooners always want to talok about what a class act Stoops is, but he clearly will only punish players for off-the-field behavior if said behavior could get him and his program in trouble. If a player has legal problems but can help him win, that guy is playing.

Yet another reason Stoops is the anti-Mack.

by wao23 on Apr 4, 2007 11:03 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

morons

i love how he continues his quote with "I didn't break any laws and I get kicked off the team, but there's people on the team that are breaking laws and failing drug tests and stuff like that..." He then tried to say "around the country" and not just on OU, but covers for himself terribly.

He just admitted that OU players are doing drugs and committing crimes, but they're not getting caught/punished. Maybe something to look into?

...til Gabriel blows his horn

by BigTexBD on Apr 4, 2007 12:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs