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Morning Coffee Welcomes DeSean Hales To Austin

Klein, Texas wide receiver DeSean Hales announced this evening his commitment to attend Texas ($). Hales, #73 on the national Rivals100 and #5 in the Lone Star Recruiting 100, joins Dan Buckner (#8 on the LSR 100) to give Texas a fearsome 1-2 wide receiver combo in the 2008 class. Frankly, it's pretty ridiculous how loaded Texas is at wide receiver - both in the present and future.

Sticking with recruiting, the nation's top prospect, Pennsylvania quarterback Terrelle Pryor, has narrowed his list of schools to 11 and Texas is among his choices. Along with the 'Horns, Pryor lists Ohio State, Notre Dame, Michigan, Alabama, Florida, West Virginia, Penn State, Tennessee, Georgia Tech and Michigan Sate. With over 75 scholarship offers, Pryor said he was tiring of all the commotion from schools he wasn't seriously considering. Thus, the decision to narrow the field.

When asked if he was leaning toward staying close to western Pennsylvania, Pryor responded, "I'm not worried about staying close to home. In fact, I want to get out and see new things and meet new people. That is what college is about. I'm planning on taking some unofficial visits and camping at a few schools this year. That would give me a good chance to work with the quarterback coach and see how we mesh."

The other big thing with Pryor is that he's a hoops star, as well, and won't consider any school which wouldn't let him play both sports. That's not something you usually see at Texas, but after Vince Young took Texas to the top of the college football universe in 2005, something tells me Mack Brown wouldn't hesitate to let the guy everyone's pegging as the next Vince Young do whatever he pleases.

And hey, as far as I'm concerned: bring in Rick Barnes on this. The guy knows a thing or two about landing blue chippers from the north.

The Longhorn coaches have reacted to the Webb and Watts transfers by re-opening their offensive line recruiting. Rivals is reporting that Nebraska offensive lineman Bryce Givens has received an offer from Mack Brown, and though the state's top tackle prospect is already committed to the Huskers, he's interested enough in Texas to come to Austin for a visit this summer. Givens' teammate, safety Nolan Brewster, has already committed to Texas.

No surprise here: Robert Joseph has been suspended from the team indefinitely by Mack Brown following his arrest Saturday night. Final judgment on Joseph's future won't come until after the legal proceedings play out. In the meantime, Joseph won't be taking part of any team functions.

And last, but not least, a big hat tip to the other Andrew who sent me one of the single greatest pictures I've seen in my entire life. All Hail one of PB's top three favorite Longhorns of all time: Casey Hampton.


Yes, I think that's an entire bottle of Belvedere in his left hand. And a double Hook 'Em.

--PB--

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if i were pryor...

i wouldn't touch texas with a 10-foot pole.  who would want to be the guy who could never live up to vince young's legend?  then again, lebron wears #23, so what the hell do i know?

by billyzane on Jun 10, 2007 11:29 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Guess it depends, then...

...on if he IS really like Vince Young.

Because VY wouldn't shy away from comparisons to a legend. He'd embrace it head on.

--PB--

by Peter Bean on Jun 11, 2007 12:35 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

the answer to that is simple

when they ask you if you're the next Vince Young, you say, "No, I'm the first Terelle Pryor." You make your own legend.

As a college football fan, I hope he goes to West Virginia or Penn State. Rich Rod or Joepa can help him develop into something special.

It is interesting that he lists Georgia Tech; I guess the Reggie Ball Meltdown didn't faze him.

by Beergut on Jun 11, 2007 1:56 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

"develop into something special"

Vince Young became Vince Young in Texas with Mack and GD.  Mack and GD have "shown" what they can do with the type of talent that Pryor has.  His best chance of becoming a real special player is with Texas.

Go Horns, Go Vince, Go Mavs

by Cyrus on Jun 11, 2007 5:21 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Penn State?

When was the last time old man JoePa developed a pro QB?  Do you want him to be the next Kerry Collins?

I do think that West Virgina would suit him and would give him plenty of opportunity to showcase his talent in a fun offense.

by Wells on Jun 11, 2007 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Florida vs Texas

Imagine what the conversations would be if Pryor narrowed his choices to Florida and Texas.  One day our meeting Urban Meyer and Billy Donovan and the next Mack Brown and Rick Barnes.  Doesn't get any better than that for a young kid.

by sportsfan on Jun 11, 2007 7:55 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Casey Hampton

is one of those players that I offer up as proof that y'all hype the wrong players.
They were hyping Leonard Davis for the Outland when they should've been talking up Hampton, who actually had the talent and production to match the hype.
Hampton has to come up in any discussion of the best DL in texas football history.

by Beergut on Jun 11, 2007 2:19 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

See above

I'm hyping him as one of my three favorite 'Horns of all-time.

--PB--

by Peter Bean on Jun 11, 2007 2:51 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wasn't referring to you, specifically

you get points for knowing how awesome he is.

I'm talking about texas fans in general.

I think the Cowboys wasted a huge chunk of money when they signed Leonard Davis ("Jerry was bidding against air" was the description I heard from one reporter).
I'd be doing cartwheels if they had managed to get Hampton to shore up their DL, though.

by Beergut on Jun 12, 2007 11:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd be careful about using Ketchum's rankings

Some of his rankings are downright laughable, and his logic is bemusing.

It appears to me that he knows little about football, and just bases his rankings on what coaches tell him (and probably on who commits to texas, too).

I'd stick with just using Rivals' national rankings, b/c those are at least somewhat impartial.

Besides, if you make the Rivals national 100, you're a certified badass.

by Beergut on Jun 11, 2007 2:23 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Based on?

I'm as skeptical a fella as you're likely to meet, Beergut, but I actually know Geoff. You're tossing out a claim about his football knowledge that's without merit.

That guy knows high school football way better than you or I do. That, I promise you.

Do Rivals sites play "angles" for their fanbases from time to time? Sure. But Ketchum's built his site into a juggernaut on providing reliable information.

C'mon, man. I'm happy to engage in differences of opinion, but you're playing the contrarian card in every. single. comment.

Pick your spots, bud.

--PB--

by Peter Bean on Jun 11, 2007 2:55 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

How naive...

Try attending some combines. While the better assessors of talent are all attentively watching the players' efforts, someone else is flapping his piehole.

--- We have pansies scheduling our patsies. ---

by HornChamps on Jun 11, 2007 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well

This isn't rocket science here. You can't watch that much high school football and not know a lot more than the folks who don't.

I won't compare Geoff to his peers, as I have no idea how good a job they do. Nor do I care. I do know that I can get reliable information on a kid from Geoff.

I'm sure there's a contingent of people out there (you, apparently, among them) who like to nitpick it all, but you're splitting hairs over 17 year-olds.

Which seems like an exercise in futility.

All most of us want to know is: "What are the details on the prospects Mack Brown signs?" Geoff provides those as well as anyone - certainly well enough for my purposes.

I'm happy to know, though, that you're out at the combines scouting these kids, HornChamps. I look forward to you telling us how Mack got all the wrong kids.

--PB--

by Peter Bean on Jun 11, 2007 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh, he may know HS football better than I do

most people can tell you which team is in which district or who has is having a good season before I can.

I usually only follow certain programs and certain players, and I'm more of a college football fan than HS, so it isn't hard to know more about HS football than I do.

Now, knowing the actual GAME of football is a different story, but we're not talking about that here.

I just remember Geoff listing Alfio Randle as the top recruit in the state one year.

His comments on players' physical attributes make me believe he isn't giving his own opinion, merely parroting what coaches have told him (and what coach is going to downgrade their own players?).

His ranking of what he says is a RT as the #1 player in the state this year is why I question his rankings.

But, you obviously like him, so you'll use his rankings. It's no problem, I was just imploring for a more unbiased approach.  
Fran has killed most of my enjoyment of following recruiting anyway (what's the point of recruiting great players if you can't develop them?), so I don't really pay much attention to it anymore.

by Beergut on Jun 12, 2007 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

All fair points

And I didn't mean to jump on you quite like I did.

I don't lean on Geoff for football analysis - only to tell me the A's and B's of a high school player.

Those that take recruiting analysis to X, Y, and Z may have a bone to pick with Geoff, but I simply don't care about recruiting enough to go that far.

--PB--

by Peter Bean on Jun 13, 2007 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Worldwide Leader

Sticking with Morning Coffee's college to pro bullet format, Mel Kiper's first Big Board (Insider) for the 2008 draft class is up, and two Texas players check in: Frank Okam at 8 and Limas Sweed at 14. Brian Brohm tops Mel's list.

by jc25 on Jun 11, 2007 3:04 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

what is Sweed's 40 time?

He's got the size the NFL wants, but he just never looks that fast when he's running. Does he run a sub 4.5?

I think Billy Pittman might be your best pro prospect at WR, but he did have a down year last year.
Did he get hurt or something? Or did Colt just not throw to him as much as Vince did?

by Beergut on Jun 12, 2007 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Scholarship Question

So, if a player is kicked off a college team permanently due to a criminal offense, does that free up his/her scholarship?  Or is the school on the hook for the full four years?  Or does it vary by sport?

Even if we don't get RJ's schollie back, it seems like we suddenly have a few more slots to fill on the 2008 class with our recent transfers.  And given we just got a verbal from DeSean, and have put out a couple more offers in the past, including evidently another one at the latest Longhorns Camp, the coaches are putting them to good use.

The Horns are still in hot pursuit of Chancey Aghayere obviously, and now have an offer out to Nolan Brewster's teammate Bryce Givens. Could we end up with another 25-member class?

Officially a Limey Longhorn

by patienthornsfan on Jun 11, 2007 7:31 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Good questions

It seems like they almost have to take that many, but I'm not sure if the total schollies is under the limit.
They've been chasing a high number of prospects. Mack may already have seen this coming, because of the grade situations.

It makes me wonder what the 09 class will look like. They'll have needs at several positions.

Cats and dogs sleeping together.

by EYESofBEVO on Jun 11, 2007 8:02 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Scolarships

are yearly commitments, meaning that no player is guaranteed 4 years at the university.
Coaches don't usually pull someones scholarship unless it is for really bad behavior or they help them get a transfer to somewhere they can get more playing time due to the horrible effect it would have on recruiting.

When these commitments are made or if there are deadlines for submitting a teams scholarship list for the year, I have no idea.

by Wells on Jun 11, 2007 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Defense?

Hey, you should post that projected Defense depth chart before they all get arrested.

by SelimSivad on Jun 11, 2007 1:53 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

...

Stupidity extends past college. Ex-Longhorn Shaun Rogers accused of groping stripper.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...

by jc25 on Jun 11, 2007 2:48 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Wait

groping strippers is wrong?

by billb on Jun 11, 2007 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's a longhorn tattoo on his chest!

nice

Go Horns, Go Vince, Go Mavs

by Cyrus on Jun 11, 2007 9:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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