Frank Okam, Derek Lokey Headed To Court
I was perusing MB-TF today and came across this interview with Roy Miller, which I expected to be like every other program-sanctioned interview posted on the site. That is to say, rather dull.
Not so!
Within Roy's interview, we get this question and answer (emphasis mine):
A: It's very important. When I first came here, that's what was instilled to me -- these guys work hard and are willing to put everything they've got into it. With Frank and Derek going for the LSAT, that just shows how competitive they are, not only on the field, but in academics, too. That just pushes me to want to do the best I can. I'm really proud of them for that. It's hard work, but it just shows you the kind of guys they are and the work ethic they have.
Frank Okam and Derek Lokey just took the LSAT?! Really?!
First of all, I applaud both players for taking the initiative to study for and take the exam. As someone who took the damn thing, I can assure you that it's a royal pain in the ass, filled with all sorts of tricky, brain-cramping logic questions. For example:
--Each plumber is assigned to at most one team.
--At least one plumber on each team must be experienced.
--Neither Mark nor Roberta nor Vernon can be assigned to a team with Frank.
--If Tim is assigned to a team, either Gene or Kathy must be assigned to that team.
--Jill cannot be assigned to a team with Roberta.
Given the above, if all of the inexperienced plumbers are assigned to teams, and neither Roberta nor Tim nor Vernon is assigned to a team with Gene, then Sally must be assigned to a team with either:
(A) Frank or else Gene
(B) Frank or else Mark
(C) Gene or else Mark
(D) Jill or else Kathy
(E) Jill or else Mark
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At the least, for most people, it's enough to keep them from taking the test unless they really, really want to go to Law School. You'd assume - wrongly, it turns out - that it'd be something a fellow would avoid if, say, he had first round NFL talent.
Alas, no, Okam and Lokey are better than you and me in almost every regard, and frankly, when you think about it, they'd probably make damn great lawyers. I know for a fact that if Frank Okam shows up at my office to deliver a lawsuit, the only thing I'll be advising my client is: "Settle. And fast."
In the meantime, these two legal scholars need nicknames. Orson suggested "The Bar Association" or "The Bench." Both work, but I think something involving a judge and harsh, max penalties might be even better.
I'll open the floor to you now.
--PB--
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I have a problem
because when I saw that question I immediately stopped working and found a pen so I could draw up a N^2 chart and solve the puzzle.
I'm going with A
But Miss Texas says none of the above because Sally shouldn't be forced to work in a hostile work environment where she might break a nail or touch dooky.
by 54b on Jul 2, 2007 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Good one -- and probably a winner
The Firm
Power of Attorney
Texas Justice
speculation
maybe they're just trying to help out all their teammates who are in need of legal services?
The Pro Bono Duo
The Long Arms of the Law
Habeas Timorem (May you have Fear)
Contempt of Quarterback
bah...
i long for the days of the LSAT (4 years ago? really? i was 21 when i took that thing? where did my early-20s go?)....[trudges back to wasting his summer away studying for the bar exam]
and i think i may be the only person in the world that actually likes the logic problems section of the LSAT. i totally dominated those problems. and then i got so excited at dominating them that i forgot to pay attention to the rest of the test. oops.
as for nicknames, i'm totally geeking out here but the Adverse Possessors is one that fits. Adverse possession occurs when someone who doesn't own title to property comes to legally own it basically by hostilely possessing the property without true owner's consent for a continuous period of time.
This can also be combined with other nicknames: "Man, Law and Order fuckin' adversely possessed your backfield."
Worst. Shit-talking. Ever.
By the way
That reminds me of one of my favorite sequences ever at Baseball Prospectus chat with Christina Kahrl:
Christina Kahrl: Gary Huckabay. His jokes don't involve punchlines that require footnotes, for starters. (Case in point, that's about me, not Joe.)
[...]
G-MOTA (Bumpus, MA): Oooh! Tell us a joke with a punchline that requires footnotes!
Christina Kahrl: See, I start wanting to make a crack about front-running teams being like Gustavus Adolphus, and the danger of being out in front* and giving too much thought to the details of the immediate future when you should be thinking big-picture, because there are teams like the A's back in the long grass, waiting to pounce... and it just doesn't work. Too elaborate.
*Arguably the greatest soldier-king of the 17th century, he managed to get himself killed at the already-won battle of Lützen, endangering the future of the Vasa Dynasty.
geez Peter...
first you tell me to restrain my ridiculous explanations to footnotes, now you're dissing those footnotes....i just don't know what you want! COME ON!
adverse possession is like squatting. if you squat for long enough continuously, you become the owner. which is totally what okam and lokey are going to do to opposing backfields. adverse possession.
screw you guys, i'm using it. you'll all be on the bandwagon soon enough...
"adverse possession is like squatting"?
"if you squat for long enough continuously, you become the owner"...
When I squat for long enough continuously, I don't really want to be the owner....
by Texas Sized BS on Jul 3, 2007 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions
I love math problems, too.
And when I took the LSAT many years ago, it was in a room in the old student union on homecoming day. After two hours of mindnumbing testing, we were interrupted by the Longhorn pep band that had just set up on the patio outside. The music was so loud and so disruptive, that they invalidated the results of the test and I got to take it all over again. Hope our lads had better luck.
I loved the LSATs, too
Unfortunately it was far and away the highlight of my academic career up to this point. Logic games rock.
by Old Tex29 on Jul 2, 2007 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Logic problems
I love those things.
I always wanted to take the LSAT just to see how I would do because I enjoyed doing the practice exercises of my friends LSAT study books.
Hence my "I have a problem" post above.
I'm liking the nickname...
... "Strict Scrutiny." Considered fatal in fact.
beat me to it, but it's A
I can't imagine Chuck Norris would let both the TV show and now Lokey & Okam get away with using his trademarked Law and Order, but it fits so well. Adverse Possessors is a little to thick on the Legal Jargon for my tastes, but Texas Justice has a nice ring to it.
BTW, horrible title for the article, I was freaking out before I got down to the puzzle.
by sharkbait101 on Jul 2, 2007 5:01 PM CDT reply actions
Like a lot of other posters...
I also liked the logic problems on the LSAT, and did the best on that section of the test. Perhaps because it's been so long ago, I don't remember the LSAT with any particular dread, but do remember the bar exam being roughly like a three day root canal.
BTW, since there appear to be so many attorneys roaming these pages, anyone here from UT Law School? I went there in the early 90's and went to UT for undergrad in the late 80's.
PB, since it's Roy Miller's interview that caused you to post, you must have missed the video interview with Lokey and Okam the day after they took the LSAT. It's a great piece where they talk about their study habits and their goal of being academic all-Americans.
http://www.mackbrown-texasfootball.c...
Makes me proud to be a Horn.
I did indeed miss it
Many thanks for the link.
And for jumping in to comment. You're right - plenty of lawyers in these parts. You'll find plenty of company.
Nickname (lok and ok)
"The DA's" (no footnote needed)
"Outlaw and Disorder" (weak)
"Assault & Battery"
"Acts of God"
"Supreme Court"
"Swift Justice"
"Texas Lawdogs"
by 60atMLB on Jul 3, 2007 9:55 AM CDT reply actions

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