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Community Projection: Jamaal Charles

It's time to get started on a collaborative project here at BON - community projections. We'll go through the roster and take a crack at finding a community consensus on a given player's 2007 production.

Along with projecting his numbers, feel free to include a comment on why you're going with the number that you are. The hope is that, as we talk out the numbers on various players, we'll iron out the expectations for the upcoming season.

We start the fun with Jamaal Charles - an appropriate guinea pig for our first community projection because the opinion on him is so varied. Some think he's on the brink of an award-winning season; others worry that he's not physical enough to be a between the tackles runner.

I'm still an optimist with Charles, and think he (and the offense as a whole) suffered from the inevitable adjustment pains (Life After VY). I like Charles' chances this year to crack 1,000 yards, and I think he'll flourish as Texas' primary back. He and Selvin weren't the ideal complementary parts. I see Charles improving on his 2006 numbers, though I don't know that he can match his freshman season production in terms of yards per carry.

2007 projection: 195 carries, 1,150 yards, 11 touchdowns

Your turn in the comments below.

--PB--

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I think he will get about 15 carries per game, more in the big ones but sparingly in ones we will win big.

I see his average going up from last year, but not to 2005 levels, so lets say 6.5 ypc.  I think he will show some improvement, but most of his increased production will be because this year people will be trying to stop the passing attack, unlike last year.  With teams focusing on Colt and our ridiculous amount of good receivers, there should be more holes for Charles to get through, and once he is in the open field his speed and agility should be allow him to break more big runs.

So 15*13*6.5 is 1267.

by Wells on Jul 23, 2007 4:47 PM CDT reply actions  

Big year ahead....

This is his year in my opinion. There is no upper classman in front of him and no one in the backfield on the same level. Chris O is a great compliment and Vondrell M. will get his feet wet and start the grooming of takin over soon. I see 1600 all-purpose yards. 1200 on the ground and 400 recieving. I know I'm asking a lot, but please get Jamaal in open space. (ie screens, flares, etc.)  

I'm sort of a big deal, people know me

by slimmy on Jul 23, 2007 4:51 PM CDT reply actions  

What a way to start PB.......

I really want Jamaal to have the kind of season we hoped for.

12-15 carries a game
2-4 receptions a game

Season Totals
1128 yards rushing
585 yards receiving
16 touchdowns

"Nobody leaves this field until we beat the hell out of them".................... L.J."Louis"Jordan in 1913 before kickoff of the Texas/ou game.

by ouALWAYSsux on Jul 23, 2007 4:52 PM CDT reply actions  

J.C

12 carries per game
1050 yards
9 Touchdowns
7 coeds impregnated just by watching him play

Street level

by UT2001 on Jul 23, 2007 5:02 PM CDT reply actions  

Jamaal......

is about to have an amazing year.  I really think his decision to concentrate on Football in the spring will pay off and we will see just how amazing he can be.  I think he will have around 1200 yards rushing (15 to 20 carries a game), another 300 - 400 receiving, and double digit touchdowns.  This is all predicated on the O-line being above average, so if they struggle then this is a pipedream.

by txfan76 on Jul 23, 2007 5:37 PM CDT reply actions  

Jamaal will fade 'em all...

...but one. I think he finishes second to McFadden for the Heisman.

by mldatx on Jul 23, 2007 5:44 PM CDT reply actions  

I still

think that the defenses were all underrating McCoy in his ability. I think all the teams Texas faced ran a run first defense leaving, a lot of times, a man coverage not worthy enough to contain some of Texas' shockingly good receivers.

Look for teams to treat Texas like a more complete team which should open up some gaps in the running game. I can't say for sure but in my memory it always seemed like the linebackers were always playing up a little on the run.

With them thinking about Colt (and hopefully some down the field passes to Jamaal and McGee) they might be back on their heels enough for the bullet that is Jamaal's sprint to pass them by for a few extra ypc. That's just my completely unenlightened thought on the matter

41-38

by inVINCEable on Jul 23, 2007 5:47 PM CDT reply actions  

Agree

Well put,
that is what I was trying to say

by Wells on Jul 23, 2007 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's physical enough...

...just go back and see the youtube hit on AJ Hawk after the interception....and he was a Freshman (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlEsmN4vluA).

Now he's bigger.  I just don't get the knock on Charles' strength and physicality.  He's never been too badly injured, he's got a great spin move, amazing speed, and he's actually got good size.  

I think he goes big this year, as part of a very well balanced attack.

by thestos on Jul 23, 2007 5:56 PM CDT reply actions  

Agree here as well

I think Charles hasn't been given the opportunity to be an every down back. The assumption that he can't is purely speculative at this point.

As long as his ankles don't get destroyed, I love to see what he can do with 20+ carries a game.

--PB--

by Peter Bean on Jul 23, 2007 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

JC workouts

I heard from somebody who saw him working out recently that he's working hard.

Specifically, in this instance, doing lunges with 50-lb weights in each hand and high leg-kicks in between lunges.

by SelimSivad on Jul 23, 2007 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

he can also run sideways
Horns up, Okies Down.

by kicker @ Burnt Orange Nation on Jul 23, 2007 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

he also once ate an entire cake

before his friends told him there was a stripper in it

by DogTown on Jul 24, 2007 7:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

That is some serious hustle

Check out when he hurdles a teammate right before he makes the tackle.

by meega on Jul 24, 2007 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Man PB...

I'm gone for the day and have to run through 5 posts...nice work.

I, like everyone else, am expecting a huge year from Charles. I see him as the offensive MVP for the year. Now he just has to make it happen.

By the way, I was curious, but Lee Jennings--not on Facebook. A shame.

by jc25 on Jul 23, 2007 5:59 PM CDT reply actions  

they are having the exact same thing on

the titans' blog

http://www.musiccitymiracles.com/

but my predictions on jamaal are

15-18 carries a game
5.9 yards per carry
1203 yards
and 12 TD's

it's [check your watch] o'clock and ou still sucks....

by ut fan in ok on Jul 23, 2007 6:00 PM CDT reply actions  

Stolen from baseball

A lot of the SBN baseball blogs do community projections. They're a lot of fun and a great way to see how the group's feeling about a certain player.

Also fun, too, to look back at these things when the season's done.

--PB--

by Peter Bean on Jul 23, 2007 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

J. C. is my homeboy...

i see enough carries to put charles easily over the 1000 mark rushing and about another 300 rec. yards. he is the runner with the most games under his belt. im hoping for a big season from J. Charles and i see alot of leadership with all the young runners in the backfield.

more UT, less cowbell

by kcc28 on Jul 23, 2007 7:19 PM CDT reply actions  

Some

seem to think JC's problem is mental. I guess I sort of agree. At times I think his fumbles, bumps and bruises got in his head.
So part of his problem is a JC problem, not schemes, coaches, other RBs and plays.
Time to play like a Junior and work through those things.

That being said he's maybe the fastest player on the offense. He can do things in space and adds an extra dimension that nobody on the roster can duplicate. In a spread offense not many outside LBs have the hoofs to keep up.

The most succesful all-purpose runner last season was Garrett Wolfe. I'd like to see Texas use JC like Wolfe.
So I'm gonna use the Wolfman as a benchmark. 1928 rushing yards at 6.24 per carry is probably too much. JC will probably only get around 220 carries, so around 1300 - 1400 yards.
He should shoot for the sky in receptions with at least 280 yards -- and if my prayers are answered, 300+.

http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/natlRank....

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by EYESofBEVO on Jul 23, 2007 8:05 PM CDT reply actions  

A Day at the Races

First post here after lurking for a while, but I couldn't resist with Jamaal as the topic.

I whole heartedly agree with jprice that:

please get Jamaal in open space.

On a team not blessed with so much experience and speed in the wide receiving corps, many coaches would love to get JC split out in open space. But that's not particularly feasible or necessary on this year's team. So it will be flares and screens, delays and the occasional wheel routes. That should be enough to push up the hair product sales for a dozen defensive coordinators.

A lot depends on just how gDavis implements and accents the spread offense. And nobody has said it, but it's sounding a whole lot more like Tech all the time. I really don't want that, but I'd love to see more of Leach's sense of attack.

However, there are two aspects of JC that say running should be more than a cursory part of the Horns' attack. One is his vision in the hole and the ability to physically adjust in motion, at times reminiscent of Emmett Smith - and that's high praise. The second is his acceleration, which I find on par with Tony Dorsett. Just no visible sign that he is changing gears. But he needs decent holes to do that, much better lead blocking and some sustained seams for that acceleration.

Quiet frankly, I found the running game pathetic last year. One of my coaching friends, a long time practitioner of the spread and who also has a son that's a significant player on the team, discussed how crucial this was. We agreed the team found ways to compensate and score, but that it altered what could have been a much better balance for the offense. Another thing which was lacking - the general deep passing game - seem to relate, for they both required quite specific blocking. We didn't dismiss intent (not a GD fan) but the O-line is normally the culprit in such situations (and that is a general allegation).

That said, if JC can get better blocking and a decent fullback or blocking back and the offense can pass as well as it should, JC should be looking at a 1,500 yard season, some long TDs and maybe 10-12 scores in all.

The issue with JC is durability. He has shown some of the Roy Williams racehorse syndrome - that is, how well he can perform if mildly injured. I take the high ankle sprains as serious, though, it was for Metcalf and any other backs (including the DBs last year). For someone who's whole running style keys around fluent and virtually intuitive moves, JC stands to lose more than the average back with such injuries. High ankle sprains, hamstring and groin pulls degrade his ability to do what he does best and to utilize his incredible speed. He has added strength and muscle, but I doubt if he will ever be the stereotypical one-back workhorse. He was in HS but this is a whole different level of punishment.

So, the last real issue is carries. Last year the killer was a 12-game schedule without any breaks. This year is the same. We had minimum injuries in 2005, last year we didn't. To me, this is the unstated threat to this team, for such a stretch requires more depth, especially in the O-line. That plays into JC carries and no real depth at RB. It's obvious that a lot of carries have to be devoted to the back-ups early in the season, and that means in key games where it really counts like TCU and K-State before we get to OU.

The kid can do amazing things - I just want to see him able to do them. I want the opposition to worry about him going EZ every time he touches the ball.

Sorry about the length, but this was a fun topic.

by whills on Jul 23, 2007 9:43 PM CDT reply actions  

Great take

No apologies for length needed.

--PB--

by Peter Bean on Jul 23, 2007 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks, HornsFan

I've really enjoyed this site. Love the layout and scoop.

Will contribute as I can.

by whills on Jul 23, 2007 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

The offense, not the player

Charles may have matured, but he is not yet blooded. He has skills but has yet to perform up to the standard of a featured back. Until I see that, I will write him off as a role player and not a star performer.

So the question is really what numbers the offense will  give him. On obvious running plays -- and with Texas they are all too obvious -- he will have neither the support of a thunderous fullback or the distraction of a running quarterback. He will get the yards that the line gets for him, plus the occasional breakaway. He will also split time with other 'situational' backs.

I give him 12 carries for 60 yards, times twelve for a total of 720 yards.

by Caradoc on Jul 23, 2007 9:53 PM CDT reply actions  

The other side of the coin

less ypc and less yards than then the last two years.

I guess that you think the line will be that much worse than last years?  You may be correct, and I am not trying to attack the voice of derision (reason? hopefully not for the season's sake), but I am optimistic that the respect that Colt and the receiving core will garner will open up more of those break aways.

by Wells on Jul 23, 2007 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

An earlier

post suggested UT use Jamaal Charles like Garrett Wolfe.  Fantastic idea, and the stats cited that Wolfe put up in 2006 are certainly something to shoot for.  However, the thing that scares me to death every time Charles touches the ball is that he's way too prone to coughing it up.  If Charles could match any statistic of Wolfe's it would be these: 2004-zero fumbles; 2005-zero fumbles; 2006-zero fumbles. This from a guy who's 5'7" and 177lbs., so Charles at 6'1"/205 is hardly too small or fragile to get it done.  He just needs to quit putting the ball on the carpet.

by TKO on Jul 24, 2007 2:59 AM CDT reply actions  

JC

Mack has always gone with dependability at running back.  JC must show 3 things in order to get "primary back" carries.

  1.  Hang on to the ball.
  1.  Blitz pickup (this will be HUGE this year).
  1.  Minimize negative carries.

If he is able to successfully do these things, he will get the carries.  With his talent as a runner, and the threat of our passing game, I think the low end of his YPC is 5.5.  I think that Jamaal will do these things (at least as good as anyone else at RB), garnering 17-18 attempts per game.  So...

1155 yards rushing
250 yards receiving
11 total TD's

by ctex80 on Jul 24, 2007 7:17 AM CDT reply actions  

please....

hang on to the ball, this is the biggest gripe I have w/ Jamaal...

I'm sort of a big deal, people know me

by slimmy on Jul 24, 2007 8:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

the Eric Metcalf answer

Seeing the runs by Eric Metcalf spurred the answer to JC's production. JC is easy (relatively compared to say runners like Cedric Benson) to tackle. Some backs Earl Campbell and Ricky Williams, were strong and didn't go down with arm tackles they had to be gang tackled, others like Eric Metcalf and Vince Young are slippery and deceptive and make tacklers miss them.

As much as I would like to see JC have a good year he won't improve much. His YPC average will go down. His YPC is dependant on a big O line push and since he is easy to bring down he doesn't really break many in to the D back field. So with a less dominating O line means less of an up field push which may shave as much as a yard off his YPC.

With Colt McCoy and the good receiving crew the Longhorns will pass to win and run to keep the defense honest which will cut the number of attempts for JC and since the runs will be used to slow the pass rush they will come in down situations which are less liable to result in good gains. So overall running yardage will go down also.  

xerxes

by Xerxes on Jul 24, 2007 9:04 AM CDT reply actions  

JC cant break tackles???

watch the :126, 4:13 and 6:08 marks and tell me he cant break tackles.

by DogTown on Jul 24, 2007 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

If clock counts backwards, 5:34, 2:44, and :47

And I predict 1200 rush yds, 11 TDs and 500 rec yds, 4 TDs.  6.0 ypc.

by DogTown on Jul 24, 2007 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

It shows just what I am saying

there are a few times he breaks tackles but if you look JC is taken down by the first person who touches him on the majority of plays. My guess is he is brought down 70%-75% of the plays by the first tackler.  Because of the great offensive line the first touch may be a good ways down field. That doesn't bode well with less able O line.

Also after watching the clips you can see how fast JC is, but he doesn't have good balance when he changes direction which may be why he has a hard time avoiding contact.

JC is good running back not great and Texas has had more than it's share of great backs. I enjoyed watching the clips thanks for putting them up.  

xerxes

by Xerxes on Jul 24, 2007 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

The way Jamaal met his high school challenges

gives me optimism for the upcoming season.  In his senior year at Pt. Arthur he overcame an injury the pundits doubted he could.  He predicted a superior season before the year when pressed by doubters and then proceeded to follow-up on his bold statement.

by ClassofEarl on Jul 24, 2007 9:50 AM CDT reply actions  

JC

His tendency to fumble has given me so many scares, I though I was going to die early of a heart attack.  His small size was never a big fear for me, I really never expected him to be a between the tackles RB and an open field back at the same time.  

I really hope we use his incredible speed more this year and get him the ball with somewhere to go.  One of the saddest stats I saw from last season was that Jamaal's longest run was only 45 yards.  I don't think he'll average more than 15 carries a game, but he'll be getting quite a few receptions, say 3-5.

My guess:
14 carries per game
4 receptions per game
6.3 ypc
1200 yards rushing
1650 all purpose yards
15 touchdowns

by sharkbait101 on Jul 24, 2007 10:57 AM CDT reply actions  

Fumble stats?

Anybody know where you can get national statistics on fumbles for individual players?

I looked, and all i could find is this.

25 fumbles as a team, losing 14, ties us for 93rd last year.  Not so hot, but much better than OU who had 33 fumbles and lost 23 of them, good for dead last in the NCAA.  Did AP have fumblitis or was it some one else?

by Wells on Jul 24, 2007 12:22 PM CDT reply actions  

I've done the same thing

and couldn't find anything. I was trying to compare JC to other RBs, like Goodson or Slaton and couldn't find that stat. I want to see if his fumbling is out of the norm.

Just from observations, but I think the entire OU team had fumble problems. Julio Iglesias and the QB dropped a few in the games I watched.

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by EYESofBEVO on Jul 24, 2007 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

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