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Mack Brown will release the depth chart this morning. My previews are below, but they're assuredly imperfect.

Keep your eyes on MB-TF for the release of the depth chart and post your reactions here. Mack Brown will have a press conference live at 11:00 AM, which you can watch online.

Update [2007-8-27 12:42:39 by HornsFan]: The depth chart has been released. A few quick notes:

*It looks like the team is holding out Cedric Dockery for the first game, as Tanner and Hall are listed as the starters. Dockery is listed in an "or" situation with Hall, but this looks like the team isn't particularly eager to use Dockery more than they have to. Probably wise.

*Curtis Brown is on the two deep behind Brandon Foster. If the fifth year senior wasn't feeling pressure already, he is now. It's a pretty rare thing to see a true freshman cornerback on the two deep for week one.

*Ryan Palmer is starting, too? What? Really? Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum? This is scary. Lord knows both shouldn't be out there together. I hope this is an honorary title for the veterans, and not The Plan. Ugh.

*Rodderick Muckelroy is paired with Scott Derry at the WLB position. They've been cross-training both Derry and Muck, though, so either could potentially shift over to take Kill's job as well. Barring any setbacks, Kindle will slide into this mix after he serves his three-game suspension.

*Nate Jones replaces Limas Sweed, as expected. True freshmen Brandon Collins and James Kirkendoll make the two-deep as backups. Again no surprise - both have had tremendous camps.

*With all the injuries at receiver, Texas is listing the fullback as a starter, with only two wideouts. I hope they feel this is a necessity, and not a shift in philosophy to an under-center I-formation approach to the offense. If/once Sweed is healthy, I sure hope Texas emphasizes the pass like they should.

*I'm happy to see Vondrell McGee on kick return duty. I thought it made sense when I thought through it this summer, and the coaches apparently agree - great way to get this kid on the field and touching the football.

*More thorough reaction later this evening. Your own thoughts and questions in the comment thread below.

Update [2007-8-27 12:59:31 by HornsFan]: Mack Brown has told reporters that Roy Miller, Rodderick Muckelroy and Drew Kelson are "rotating starters," meaning they will start every other game with the person they're paired with. Interesting.

Update [2007-8-27 13:3:26 by HornsFan]: More on this later tonight, but you can put - in ink - an extremely conservative offensive gameplan against Arkansas State. That's not necessarily the wrong thing to do, but let's manage our expectations ahead of time. Texas is going to pound the ball on the ground. A lot.

--PB--

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Depth chart is out
Interesting to see where the WRs fall. I'm excited to see them. Pittman is fast, but having some real sub 4.4 burners at flanker will be interesting to see. Jones, Kirkendoll and Collins aren't the type of receivers who can be caught from behind. Pittman has great hands and worked well in the unscripted plays from Vince.

Hall as the back-up center would be a nightmare. Don't get me wrong, I love the kid, but limited experience at snapping is a recipe for disaster. Several commented at the practices that he was snapping the ball all over the place.

McGee at kickoff returns? Interesting. I thought JC had all but locked up that job. I'm guessing they don't want to wear him down.

Cats and dogs sleeping together.

by EYESofBEVO on Aug 27, 2007 11:18 AM CDT reply actions  

Mcgee

I'm sure Mack just wants to get him on the field.  This is what Romance Taylor did his freshman year.

by BrooklynHorn on Aug 27, 2007 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

One other thing

and I could be totally wrong, but does the offensive depth chart imply a change in formations?
This depth chart reflects a team running the I formation.

Cats and dogs sleeping together.

by EYESofBEVO on Aug 27, 2007 11:29 AM CDT reply actions  

Notes on first read
No Limas at starting flanker, but they do have him at second string split, so I am guessing that means they are not going to have him play if they dont have too, but he is available.

Shipley is not on the chart, I am guessing that means he will not play this week.

Blaine Irby is on the chart as the #3 TE.  Does that mean no redshirt?

As expected, no Harris at QB.

Sergio and Melton are no on the list, due to their suspensions for the DDs.

They have Kelson competing with Griffin for weak safety and Erick Jackson competing with Ishie Oduegwu for strong safety.

by Wells on Aug 27, 2007 11:35 AM CDT reply actions  

Missed that one

Why don't they have a 2 deep for the slot receiver?

by Wells on Aug 27, 2007 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

I formation

is my guess.

Cats and dogs sleeping together.

by EYESofBEVO on Aug 27, 2007 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

Possible Trickeration?

Primarily run the I up until the RRS, thus giving the Land Thieves some mostly useless film?

by Shake on Aug 27, 2007 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

It had 3

X, flanker, sub

I'm hoping they are just trying to establish a running game and keep guys healty.

Cats and dogs sleeping together.

by EYESofBEVO on Aug 27, 2007 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

What's up with those "Or"s?

Interesting notes:

-Pittman and Shipley are definitively out (although Shipley is still holding)
-Sweed is listed as 2nd string (or 1a with the "or"...not really sure how that works), which is either a precaution or he's more banged up than we were lead to believe
-Same story with Dockery, as he's also a 1a
-Senior starters all around the defense...can't say I'm surprised
-Ryan Bailey as 1c punter!? What can't that guy do?
-Chykie Brown and Beasley as backup returners...I actually expect to see more from them at these positions as the season progresses.
-Are we still unsettled on the snapper for field goals?

by jc25 on Aug 27, 2007 11:37 AM CDT reply actions  

DB Disappointment

I am bitterly disappointed that Chykie Brown could not button down a job and pair with Beasley at the other CB.  Chykie has more size to battle some of the bigger receivers - and the size of the DBs really concerns me.  I am not criticizing, as I am sure the coaches know better than me - I am just disappointed these kids didn't develop faster.

by realmccoy on Aug 27, 2007 12:42 PM CDT reply actions  

Pflugerville High School

Proudly holding down the fullback spot.  Go Panthers.

by hca4 on Aug 27, 2007 1:31 PM CDT reply actions  

What are the chances...

of Curtis and Chykie stealing starting spots in the first two games?  If they each record an INT or two during ASU and TCU, does anyone believe that Mack may award them with the starting position?

by mvplonghorns on Aug 27, 2007 1:43 PM CDT reply actions  

Same 'ol..

What's up with those "Or"s?

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Similar to every player receiving an award at the Awards Banquet.

--- All roads to the Big-XII Championships run through OU and the RRS. It's not just "another game." ---

by HornChamps on Aug 27, 2007 1:57 PM CDT reply actions  

What ever happened..???

In this whole mix of our true freshmen receivers, what ever happened to Montre Webber and Phillip Payne??

by mvplonghorns on Aug 27, 2007 3:48 PM CDT reply actions  

both are injured

A report Aug 22 tracking Mack on MB-TF, I think mentioned that both these guys were injured.

by burnt in ny on Aug 28, 2007 6:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

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