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Morning Coffee Hates Excuses

Mark Turgeon is a pansy. Last week Mark Turgeon enjoyed a round of blasts after he cried about having to succeed Billy Clyde at Texas A&M. "I know no matter what I do, if I win, Gillisipie is getting the credit. And if we lose, it's my fault. I'm in a no-flippin'-win situation this year, and that puts me in a bad mood."

Everyone pull out your violins for poor Mark Turgeon, Division 1 basketball coach. Life is hard, cruel, and unfair.

Turgeon attempted to right the ship this week by being - in Chip Brown's words - "positive and authoritative." A nice effort from Coach T, but it rings a little hollow when, in the same chat with reporters, he explains away a loss in Lubbock by noting the presence of a rowdy crowd eager to see Bob Knight win game 900. And the loss to Kansas State? "They were coming off the win at Oklahoma and had all week to prepare."

Ladies and gentlemen, Mark Turgeon, Excuse Maker. Fans don't want to hear that B.S. And players definitely shouldn't hear that kind of B.S. Not from the head coach.

Crediting the opposing team after a win is a good thing - being a sourpuss isn't attractive, either - but there's a fine line between noting your team "ran into a buzzsaw" and offering up excuses. Turgeon's not shown much ability to walk that line lately.

High stakes. Nothing impresses the NCAA Selection Committee more than road wins, making tomorrow night's trip to College Station another excellent opportunity to beef up the resume. Joe Lunardi currently slots Texas as a #3 seed, right in line with the Horns' consensus seed. On the flipside, Texas A&M's back-to-back losses to Tech and KSU have sent them tumbling down the boards to a consensus #8 seed. Protecting their home turf Wednesday is essential to their climbing back up the seeding chart.

Quick Hits. Charles W. writes in to note that Vince Young starred in an Independent Film Channel feature called 'Framed'. Though I couldn't find a run date on IFC's website, Charles suggests it's running this week... The DMN college blog has a Jevan Snead update... The offseason Stats Relevance Watch begins at Sunday Morning Quarterback... Keanon Cooper commits to Mike Leach... Some of the finest writing of the year from Orson at EDSBS.

--PB--

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Framed
I saw it this weekend.  One word of caution, it was filmed in Houston and Austin when VY was here for the KSU game, so that can make one angry.  It's a short documentary about making the short and then the short is shown.  I believe the short is called "Homecoming"

by Bob LaBlog on Jan 29, 2008 9:16 AM CST reply actions  

VY film

That article was from December, so I am guessing that it has already run.  Here is IFC's website on the show.  It says it is showing on IFC at 12:30 am tonight, but their main schedule does not show it or on DirectTV's guide.

by Wells on Jan 29, 2008 9:26 AM CST reply actions  

Wells, it seems that

the last showing of the VY framed episode was THIS  morning at 00:30, not tonight.

VY Framed

Here is a youtube short of the filming of a scene. I don't think he's going Hollywood anytime soon.

I don't see it being scheduled again on IFC, but the upcoming Thierry Henry one should be good...for my son Justin Moore (Henry is his most-respected pro athlete).

by horndude on Jan 29, 2008 9:29 AM CST reply actions  

Yet another....

...reminder of how lucky we are to have Rick Barnes as our basketball HC. Another high seed in the TheDance is on the way for our Longhorns!

--- All roads to the Big-XII Championship lead through OU/RRS. It's not just another game! We're all about championships here. ---

by HornChamps on Jan 29, 2008 10:44 AM CST reply actions  

Too bad we couldn't play Mizzou later

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/s...

5 players suspended possibly indefinitely from an altercation.

When they played us, Hannah, Horton, Brown, Butterfield, and Lyons combined for 57 points.

Sometimes it's all about timing.

by goingforthecorner on Jan 29, 2008 10:25 PM CST reply actions  

Turgeon is a basketball version of Fran

He's trying to force a square peg (his motion offense) into a round hole (our team, with its depth at 4 and 5).

Most coaches would kill to have the depth we have inside; our resident basketball genius laments his good fortune.

I think Turgeon is in over his head.

It doesn't help that he is incredibly thin-skinned, and has an inferiority complex.

His bitching about BCG is pathetic.

by Beergut on Jan 29, 2008 10:38 PM CST reply actions  

Inferiority complex is a requirement

in aggie coaches, since the fan base places such a high value on "embracing the aggie spirit."

by horndude on Jan 30, 2008 12:13 AM CST up reply actions  

you think he can turn it around

when he gets his own recruits in there?

by billyzane on Jan 30, 2008 9:48 AM CST up reply actions  

in a word, no

I think he needs to change his mindset, first of all.

I don't think any college basketball fan, regardless of school affiliation, could listen to that interview he gave before the Baylor game and not come away unimpressed. Turgeon is still acting like he is at Wichita State, saying that making it to the Sweet 16 is 'a special season'.
He seems to think that merely making it to the Dance is enough, which is definitely a mid'major mentality.
He needs to realize that he isn't paid $1.2 million simply to finish the year in the top 65.

Also, he can think whatever he wants, but you cn't sit there and bitch about BCG in public. Yes, the fanbase is going to compare you to Gillispie when you lose games. Welcome to big-time college athletics, where you're expected to win, and when you don't, people will complain, and harken back to the last coach who was a winner.
Can you imagine someone making that complaint about Darrell Royal at texas, for example? Y'all would laugh him out of town.

The problem isn't bringing in 'his' recruits; we have a ridiculous amount of talent on hand right now. I'd argue this is the most talented Aggie basketball team, ever.
Turgeon complaining about youth (Carter, Jones, Kirk are all upperclassmen, only true fish playing extensively is Jordan) is a smokescreen.

He needs to learn to stop making excuses, period.

No one likes whiners, especially when you're driving a top 10 team into the ground.

by Beergut on Jan 30, 2008 12:02 PM CST up reply actions  

i should also mention

that I'm worried Byrne will be so intent on not admitting he made a mistake with this hire, that we could be stuck with Turgeon, and he could undo all the progress we made as a program under Gillispie.

If I was a texas fan, I'd be giddy right now.

We brought in someone who is a seriously inferior coach to Barnes, which can only be a positive for your program.

by Beergut on Jan 30, 2008 12:05 PM CST up reply actions  

I knew it

It was a matter of time before Beergut solved the whole problem and saved the Aggie B-Ball nation from descending into abject anonymity!

Beergut = Offense Jesus?

Growing up, I only fed Jared Norton paper. That's why he eats plays.

by Horn Brain on Jan 30, 2008 10:03 AM CST up reply actions  

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