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Bama vs Texas

A fair number of you wonder why I don't have Texas ranked #1 ahead of Alabama. Two quick points in response:

First, though you can make an argument for Texas' resume, I think a slightly stronger one can be made for Alabama's; it just depends on how you weigh the different variables. Personally, I think Bama's true road win over Georgia holds the slightest of edges over Texas' neutral field victory over Oklahoma. Second, our resume rather tanks in value after that, considering the mediocrity that is Colorado, Arkansas, Rice, UTEP, and FAU. Bama's isn't exactly thunderous beyond their top win, either, but it beats Texas' by a nose.

Second, as a Blog Poll voter for the past three years, I have seen the power of the Coulter/Krugman Award "winner." What is the CK Award? Brian explains:

The CK Award goes to the voter who overrates his own team the most. The winner here is always sort of annoying to yours truly, since unabashed homerdom is the charge that will be leveled at this thing whenever anyone cares enough to rip on it, so it's fortunate that for the past few years the winner of the award has usually been crying in his beer Saturday night.

Winning this thing is bad, and while it doesn't always guarantee defeat it takes its best shot. In the season to date:

Michigan State loses to Cal.

Boston College loses to Georgia Tech.

Auburn beats Mississippi State 3-2!!!

Utah beats Air Force 30-23 but found themselves tied with a minute left despite outgaining the Zoomies by 249 yards.

OSU clubs Minnesota.

Michigan State squeezes by a bad Iowa team.

Depending on your opinion re: the relative abilities of Michigan State and Iowa, that's 5/6 weeks something from uncomfortable to dire has happened to the winner here.

This Michigan State guy won't be dissuaded even after his homerism caused the Cal loss and the uncomfortable Iowa game; now the Spartans get undefeated Northwestern on the road. The dire twins will be looking down upon you, yea.

You see where I'm going with this? While voting Texas #1 is hardly likely to land me a CK Award, the principle behind the policy dictates a cautious approach here.

Not a believer in football karma? Suit yourself. But I saw what happened to a Missouri fan who called out the gods on Saturday afternoon... and I want no piece of it.

It's sort of like stumbling upon a button with a sign hanging above it which reads "Pushing this button will curse your mother." Yeah, my first thought would be, "How ridiculous." But if you urged me to push that button, I'd emphatically tell you: "Hell no."

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Texas vs. Alabama

OU = UGA
Colorado = Clemson
Arkansas = Arkansas
Rice < Kentucky
UTEP > Western Kentucky
FAU = Tulane

I’d give the edge to Texas because Alabama struggled so much with Kentucky and Tulane.

by Texas Wahoo on Oct 13, 2008 3:44 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Texas earned it

I’m not a huge believer in sitting at home for a weekend and waking up to find yourself at No. 1 after Texas did what they did to the No. 1 team on a neutral site. Bama jumped meteorically over the first four weeks – including a jump from 8 to 2 the previous poll.

I think the voters in the AP poll nailed the top 5. Based on the what have you done for me lately theory, UT looked more impressive in beating OU than Bama did in beating Kentucky.

"Excuse me while I whip this out."

by FreedomDip on Oct 13, 2008 3:45 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Frankly, Penn State (7-0)

has as good a claim as Texas or Bama (yes, I hate eastern football too) . . . no signature win, but blowout in Madison, solid win at Purdue, home win over a good Illinois team, destruction of Oregon State. The other 3 were over a wretched, soon-to-be-coach-hunting Syracuse, Coastal Carolina and Temple (which actually has two wins and a pair of 3-point losses).

The Paternos have one tough game left: they host Michigan this week, go to Ohio State next week (Big Ten title, BCS title game could await winner), then Iowa, Indiana and Michigan State in Happy Valley.

Go Hawkeyes and Spartans!

by edsp on Oct 13, 2008 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

whoops...

…meant to link to the “must be this tall” sign recommendation.

Rock M Nation
Thrust nunchuk upward!

by Bill C. on Oct 13, 2008 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Erm...

Isn’t calling us out on this bad karma for you?

Not to mention that there isn’t anything particularly cocky about that threat you linked to.

by pleaseplaykindle on Oct 13, 2008 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thoroughly share...

…the sentiments on karma and would on that basis drop the Horns to 3 if at all possible. Obviously it isn’t and as you conceede they have at least a plausible (and in my view fairly strong) argument for number 1. Still, as I commented on the prior post, we have to remember that this is all a parlor game and certainly not a preictior of what happens down the road, espcially in view of the appaling difficulty of our schedule.

marshalld

by duras on Oct 13, 2008 4:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

UTEP has ended up being a strong win

It really doesn’t matter, but just for argument’s sake…
Texas beat UTEP 43-12… UTEP crushed UCF 58-13… UCF narrowly loses at Miami 20-14… and Miami beat… uh… Texas A&M… and uh Charleston Southern… uh never mind.

by aaronlybrand on Oct 13, 2008 4:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

You're game counts. Big psychological chit.

Future resolution and they don’t even know it.

by whills on Oct 14, 2008 12:42 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The CK award is basically...

The award given to the biggest homer, i.e. the voter who rates his or her team the highest above said team’s ranking in the BlogPoll.

As a Michigan State fan, I can attest to the CK’s power, as the Spartans have been a victim of it several times. Not this week, though.

by Pete Rossman on Oct 13, 2008 5:44 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Texas is number 1, bad vote bama is no number 1 because they did not beat a number 1, they beat a Georgia team which someone in here said OU = Georgia , WOW negative OU >Georgia. If Alabama played a big 12 offense with AIR firepower they would be absolutely destroyed because they defend the run very well the only problem with that is the Big 12 loves to air it out. No way is Alabama a number 1. HOOKEM!

by JBHOOKEM22 on Oct 13, 2008 6:03 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

bottom line...

it just doesn’t matter really…

If we get through our schedule – and that’s a huge IF, karma fans – we would be #1 without question. We just got there beforehand.

Anyway, if it’s okay for Bama to leapfrog however many winning teams they did, then it’s exactly as okay for us to leapfrog them back. At this point, it’s even more so a beauty contest, based on not a whole lot. Even going by a strict resume approach, it’s not even good enough to call it an inexact science, it’s completely opinion. And in my opinion, just as most of the voters, beating OU in Dallas is a greater feat than beating this year’s Georgia team at home…

by Pflash on Oct 13, 2008 8:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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