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It's Official, Colt staying for Senior year...

I am glad to read that Colt has stated he will come back for his senior year.  Maybe this is old news to most but I for one am glad to hear this publicly.  Can you imagine Gilbert getting tutored by Colt to take over after he is done?  I am really excited about this and hope he sticks to his word.  As much as I loved Vince, he also said the same thing and bolted after a great year; I don't blame him but just wish he would have stayed.  Hook 'em!

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Vince, TJ, DJ ...

 … they all say it, kiddo. Would harm the team’s chemistry and good vibe too much to say otherwise.

How about we focus on this season now, and then hope for the best later? Too early to be thinking about that anyway.

Watch out, I bite.

by EddieTheAlbinoSquirrel on Oct 22, 2008 8:42 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

You are correct Eddie...

but they were all top 5 picks…I have not even seen a prediction on where Colt would go. I have heard here in OKC that Bradford is the top QB prospect and he has not shown any leanings. Let’s focus on the season and see where everything lands in late Janurary. If he does go, then things went very well this season (just like 2005).

Peace

by Bevoboy94 on Oct 22, 2008 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree...

… just thought I would share the news is all. I know we have a long season, but hearing this makes the season even better because Colt sounds like he has a definitive plan for his college career and it is refreshing to hear this, just my thoughts

by juarez1729 on Oct 22, 2008 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow!!!!

Another ESPN scoop. Tomorrow: Muschamp expected to be in High Demand for Head-Coaching Vacancies

by edsp on Oct 22, 2008 8:46 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I think we can be sure Colt will stay

He’s not a big time pro prospect. VY had the big arm, career, height etc that NFL scouts drool over. Colt, he’s good in his system, and has adequate arm strength for Texas’ purposes. But hes no 1st rounder. Im a big Colt fan mind you.

by owenh on Oct 22, 2008 9:34 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Mack Brown on this

Tonight in a radio interview with Craig Way, Mack Brown discussed the issue of Juniors leaving early. He had a really good philosophy on this. I’ll try to condense what he said here, but keep in mind I’m paraphrasing, not quoting.

Mack(NOT a quote):

Every year, we sit down with all the juniors around the 7th or 8th game, we invite thier parents and we talk to the players about where they realistically would get drafted. We bring in ex-talent scouts for the NFL and advise the players on leaving, and we emphasize that they not speak with agents, because this is illegal during the season. If a player with his family has made up his mind to go, we wish them the best of luck and don’t have any ill will towards them, but we ask for two things of them:

1. Do not talk about it during the season. We want to stay focused on the season, so in the locker room or to the media, we don’t tolerate discussion of leaving early to the NFL. Talking and thinking about the NFL is a very selfish thing, and we try to avoid discussion in public until after the season is over. We want to keep the team concept alive. We understand that you need to be able to talk it over, and that’s what the coaching staff are here for.

2. Keep us (the coaching staff) informed of the decision process. We don’t want surprises at the end of the season. Come tell us you need to leave early, and we’ll sit down and figure out how to make it work, and how to deal with the press.

I thought his position on this showed great ability as a manager of personnel, and especially of young men. Think about it, by not letting players talk about leaving to the media, he prevents two things:

1. Players becoming distractions so that instead of talking about the game the team just won, players talking about thier draft day decisions.

2. Indecisiveness of a young player’s mind is kept private. If a player announces he’s going early in the 2nd game of his junior season, and then the team wins a championship and suddenly the player wants to stay, he has to go back on his word. Or more damagingly, vice versa. Its better to keep things private until you’re sure. (I don’t know how Colt came out and talked about it today).

Mack also had some great things to say about Will Muschamp leaving. He pointed out that anytime Muschamp feels he needs to leave, he’ll come and talk to Mack and they’ll sit down together and figure out what’s best for Muschamp. Another interesting tidbit he let drop was that when schools want to hire an assisstant coach, as a sign of respect they’re supposed to contact the head coach first. Mack said a lot of schools weren’t doing this with Muschamp.

His whole attitude towards management is indicative of someone who has a strong hand on the reins of his program. Every aspect of the PR of Texas is clearly well thought out and has a consistant philosophy. Mack Brown is a master of management here, and is a great part of this program’s success as a football program, but also as a respectable organization. This is the stuff that great leaders are made of.

by pleaseplaykindle on Oct 22, 2008 10:48 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The first 1. and 2. are Mack's quote, after that is just my commentary.
1. Do not talk about it during the season. We want to stay focused on the season, so in the locker room or to the media, we don’t tolerate discussion of leaving early to the NFL. Talking and thinking about the NFL is a very selfish thing, and we try to avoid discussion in public until after the season is over. We want to keep the team concept alive. We understand that you need to be able to talk it over, and that’s what the coaching staff are here for.

2. Keep us (the coaching staff) informed of the decision process. We don’t want surprises at the end of the season. Come tell us you need to leave early, and we’ll sit down and figure out how to make it work, and how to deal with the press.

by pleaseplaykindle on Oct 22, 2008 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for this info ...

Very interesting interview details. This does provide insight into Obi Wan’s Jedi-master mindset.

I wonder what Colt’s long-term aspirations might be … he reminds me more of wanna-be-a-coach Applewhite than playa’ VY.

Watch out, I bite.

by EddieTheAlbinoSquirrel on Oct 22, 2008 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great stuff

I really like the way he handles everything. Mack may not be the best X and Os coach but he sure is a great College Football Head Coach for these reasons. He is on top of everything and is so organized in the way he approaches everything.

This season just shows what happens when you get some great football minds together, Major, Mushchamp and dare i say it….Greg Davis. You put those 3 with Mack and you have the best overall coaching staff in America…who is better right now?

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by blazzinken on Oct 22, 2008 11:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I personally think we are getting too much national attention right now

Don’t think this is good thing right now…especially a big game coming up this saturday…
mack needs to shut out the media
Colt is having a great season, but he is not a big time NFL prospect

my first born shall be named vy

by hookemkp on Oct 23, 2008 2:45 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Colt

I think VY will tell Colt to stay.

I don’t think Colt is stupid like J. Charles and J. Finley. He seems like he’s smart and wants a degree. I can’t see Colt leaving early. I don’t blame VY for leaving early. I still have no idea what J. Charles and J. Finley were thinking leavinf\g early. I think UT has benefited so far from their early departure!

by Longhorns84 on Oct 23, 2008 7:37 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

You make a great point

I’ve thought about that myself this year. What would we be doing right now with J. Finley and J. Charles. We all know they are incredibly talented on the football field. However, I’ve been wondering if their “team” spirit was lacking and thus contributed to some of last year’s struggles. Before you jump on me, I’m not saying they were intentionally devisive. I would have no way of knowing that. I don’t assume that either. And we couldn’t question their onfield contributions last year either.

But I do think the reference to Mack’s comments above point out the need for the team to be cohesive. I believe that’s part of what is making this year’s “team” so good….they are a team. They are playing as good as any “team” for Mack Brown has ever played. It’s been stated publicly many times that there are no “superstars” on this team (Although I wonder how Colt is not a “superstar” if he’s the front runner for the Heisman and has been on the cover of SI).

All that to say Longhorns84, I agree with you. I think we have and are benefiting from their departure. At the very least, are we missing them? NO.

by abtxutfan on Oct 23, 2008 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ugh

Perhaps think BEFORE you type?

I don’t think Colt is stupid like J. Charles and J. Finley. He seems like he’s smart and wants a degree. I can’t see Colt leaving early. I don’t blame VY for leaving early. I still have no idea what J. Charles and J. Finley were thinking leavinf\g early. I think UT has benefited so far from their early departure!

I’m not sure where your rationale takes you to consider it “stupid” for Charles and Finley to leave early. Yes, it’s entirely possible that they both had strong senior seasons which would’ve sent them rocketing to the first round, a la Michael Huff or Aaron Ross. But on the other hand, it’s also entirely possible that they had ineffective or partially injured senior seasons that would’ve sent their draft stock spiraling, a la Rod Wright, Frank Okam or Limas Sweed.

The draft is a crapshoot; both players saw an opportunity to start making maximizing on their earning potential, so they took it. In Charles’ case, I say it was absolutely the right move. First, he’s a small-ish running back, and last I checked, those don’t often get drafted with first round dollars. Second, a running back’s shelf life is shorter than your average NFL player; you’re often ineffective once you hit 30. So it makes sense to come out as early as possible, in order to maximize your lifetime earnings. Third, he had an absolutely amazing junior year, one that may have been hard to replicate. His two biggest problems were 1) his size, and 2) his penchant for fumbles, neither of which he could have “improved on,” at least in scouts’ eyes.

Finley’s departure was a little more questionable. Most Longhorn fans would point out that he never really maximized his potential and that he was capable of so much more. Many others were on Greg Davis’ case for not properly utilizing him. Both were probably, to some degrees, true. What is definitely true is that Finley had a family to support, so he made a grown-up decision to leave college and make some money. Could he have stayed and gone higher in the draft? Absolutely. Could he also have stayed and watched as Greg Davis marginalize his role in favor of Blaine Irby (who’s pretty damn good himself)? Absolutely as well.

It may strike you as odd, but some college football players play college football not to get a degree, but to make it to the NFL. And if that’s the case, then how can you not consider Charles and Finley success stories? If they do want that degree eventually, they can always go back and get it, Vince Young-style. For now, though, they’re both learning on the job they really wanted. I’m sure if you could have landed your dream job, making $400,000+ (sorry, I’m not sure of their exact salaries), but had to leave school early, you’d jump at the opportunity.

As for whether UT has benefited from their early departures…well, you may be correct. However, I do know that our two biggest complaints about the offense this year thus far have been, 1) our complete lack of a running game early on in the season, and 2) what the f*$! we were going to do about our TE position after we lost Blaine Irby. So make of that what you will.

by jc25 on Oct 23, 2008 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

?
I’m not sure where your rationale takes you to consider it "stupid" for Charles and Finley to leave early.

Did you just say rationale in the same breath as Longhorn84? I’ve said it before, just add ! to the end of the sentences, and everyone will believe what you say!!!

by vy til i die on Oct 23, 2008 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not so good a point...

Are we better than last year? Most definitely. However, saying we’re better because certain players are gone is a far, far leap that has no logical continuity.

For instance, was our 2005 team better than 2004? Of course. Is it because we lost players like Derrick Johnson, Cedric Benson, and Bo Scaife? Absolutely not. Those three players left holes, and all three were more or less compensated for. That sure as heck doesn’t mean that if those three guys returned, we wouldn’t have been as good. I’ll bet every dollar I have that we’d have been even better in 2005 with Derrick Johnson at linebacker.

I don’t recall any team problems stemming from Finley or Charles. They made their mistakes and in many ways (especially Finley), they didn’t reach their full potential here, but they definitely helped this team. Without Charles, we’re losing against Nebraska in embarrassing fashion and to OSU.

Chris O. has stepped up and Irby was developing before he got injured. Now, we’re covering up our hole at TE with our receivers. Again, this doesn’t mean we’re better because Finley, Charles, and others left. Other players have simply risen to fill the openings. Sorry, but with the way Charles finished the season last year, I would have loved to have him return, as our talented TE Finley. And before anyone says that there’s no way Charles would have fixed his fumbling problems (which were greatly exaggerated in the first place, I might add), just look at how much improvement Colt McCoy has shown us, which is probably THE biggest reason outside the Muschamp hire for the emergence of our team as a contender.

by TheElusiveShadow on Oct 23, 2008 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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