Morning Coffee Wonders What The National Punditry Is Smoking
Gary Danielson goes Schlabach on Colt McCoy. Apparently, being no. 1 means the national punditry makes ill-considered statements about that football team. In a word, goes all Schlabach on you, while slobbering all over Georgia's Matthew Stafford. Take it away Gary Danielson (and remember, as a CBS analyst, he knows good offenses):
I'll take Stafford [over Colt McCoy]. He's a 235-pound player; more of a pro. If Stafford played in one of those junk offenses, he'd be putting up numbers just like McCoy. I think he's more the pro body-type, he's more Matt Ryan. I think he's just a brilliant football player, I really do. He's gonna be an NFL franchise quarterback.
It's certainly true that Stafford has the type of arm that scouts drool over and McCoy doesn't. But beyond that debate, Texas runs a junk offense? What makes it a junk offense, Danielson? Because McCoy is on pace to shatter completion percentage records in the NCAA? If it's such a junk offense, why has no one figured out how to stop it yet? Wanna see a junk offense? Go watch Auburn play. I don't think Matthew Stafford could complete 80% of his passes against air. Gary Danielson, you, sir, are a moron. Go start a club with Schlabach.

Do good teams squeak by the Huskers at home? Tip of the hat to texascfo for bringing attention to this, as Nebraska controlled the clock in their game against Tech in a manner reminiscent of the Texas/Texas Tech game last year. Nebraska held the ball for more than 40 minutes, while holding Tech to 16 first downs and under 300 yards passing. Tech won the game with an interception in overtime, but the blueprint Nebraska used is similar to the blueprint for Texas success mentioned in Morning Coffee on Tuesday. Most relevant to the Longhorns, Nebraska controlled the clock passing the ball (357 yards), rather than running 60+ times (35 for 114) as the Longhorns did last season against Tech. It's no secret the Longhorns will try to control the clock, and if Nebraska can take Tech down to the wire in Lubbock with maybe one player (Marlon Lucky) who would compete for a starting job at Texas, there's no reason to think the Longhorns can't do the same and better on Saturday.
Respect Rak. Tech bloggers are remarkably unconcerned about slowing down Brian Orakpo, quite possibly the best defense end in the country and currently ranked 7th on SI's draft board (h/t jc25). Unlike the second ranked defensive end, Michael Johnson, playing the run is not a liability for Orakpo, who has 12 tackles for loss on the season. Dedfischer concedes that point, but calls Orakpo "primarily a bull rusher" and believes that the immensely strong Rylan Reed will neutralize the strength of Orakpo. Perhaps he is forgetting that Orakpo runs a 4.6 40 and has run by nearly every left tackle he's faced this season. For some reason, Orakpo's destruction of Phil Loadholt is dismissed as irrelevant, even though Reed and Loadholt are of similar size and strength. As way of anecdotal argument, I recall a shot from the Missouri broadcast from behind their offensive line showing Orakpo shifting quickly to left in a four-point stance before blasting through the Missouri split. That would be a display of quickness, not bullrushing. I don't care if you can bench press a Buick, it won't help you stop Orakpo charging through a split in the offensive line.
Blitz at your own peril. Despite an overwhelming lack of success, teams continue to blitz the Texas offense. Seems suicidal doens't it? PB has you covered on the problem opposing defensive coordinators face:
- Blitzing Colt McCoy and his band of telepathic receivers is a fool's errand.
- Not getting pressure on Colt McCoy is inviting another Heisman-worthy stat line.
- Getting through Texas' offensive line and to McCoy without a blitz has proven exceptionally difficult.
With the Texas offensive line and running backs picking up blitzes in pass protection, Colt McCoy is often finding the middle of the field wide open. Think the long Brandon Collins catch-and-run against Missouri. Pressuring Quan Cosby in man coverage has often resulted in Cosby shedding defenders with quick moves. Zone defenses aren't working. Amazingly enough, Texas Tech actually has some talented defensive ends this year who may be able to get pressure on Colt McCoy without having to resort to blitzes, but I wonder if there isn't another solution.
Bill Belichick has long given opposing offenses fits by only rushing three defenders, while dropping eight into coverage. The Longhorns haven't seen that look yet this year, but McCoy has been picking apart blitzes and conventional coverages with equal efficiency, so it makes sense to try to further squeeze the already small windows into which McCoy often fits passes. Dropping eight into coverage could force the Longhorns to become more vertical in the passing game, which they have been reticent to explore since McCoy doesn't have the arm or release point to consistently make those throws. Not to mention the fact they don't have to make those throws with shorter passes open consistently. The issue with dropping so many defenders? Quan Cosby and Jordan Shipley use their bodies so well to shield defenders while elevating in traffic that nearly perfect coverage often results in completions for the Longhorns. Amazing how hard it is to defend the "junk offense" Texas runs, isn't it?
It's good to be king. For the third week, the Longhorns sit on top of the college football world. But are Texas fans enjoying it? With another huge game looming against Texas Tech, the Longhorn faithful are holding their collective breath for the third week in a row, waiting for the football team to substantiate their belief or for their dream of another national championship to come crashing down. But isn't that attitude way too pessimistic, too fatalistic? What's the point of being on top if you can't enjoy it? Penn State fans are writing "Texas Hate Manuals" and hoping the Longhorns fall, because hoping for other teams to lose is the only chance they have to sneak into the national championship game. Instead of controlling their own destiny, they have to rely on other teams for help. Fellow Longhorn fans, let's take the next two days to enjoy the view from the pinnacle of college football and revel in this football team, that was never supposed to be in this position. My friends, while we all love putting two fingers in the air, glory in being the only fanbase that can put a solitary index finger in the air with any truthfulness.
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That Danielson quote has been bothering me for a couple of days.
First, I doubt Gary EVER completed 80% of his passes in a game.
Second, yes Stafford might end up being a better Pro QB than Colt, however, This Iis Division I football! It’s the Big 12! It ain’t ithe NFL.
Third, Danielson’s quote is self serving. He works for the company that broadcasts SEC games, it is to his benefit to build up the SEC as much as possible.
Finally, he is an idiot.
by billb on
Oct 30, 2008 8:24 AM CDT
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great motivation there at the end, i’ve been nervous since the freakin colorado game…
danielson had quite a bit of HATERade…(jerk)
by afhook08 on
Oct 30, 2008 8:25 AM CDT
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Great post...
I’m not scared of Tech…Scared is definatly the wrong word… Weary is better…
This Texas team has so much heart that it’s hard not to have faith in them. They have shown so much resilience in their play with some of the BEST teams in the nation. I’m completely confident in the fact that after last week, and a sub par showing, we will come out this weekend, and show TTU truly who Texas is….
Hook em horns!!
by mccoy12 on
Oct 30, 2008 8:28 AM CDT
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breath on hold for 4 weeks
One more reason McCoy is the best is if you do get pressure on him, so what, he will still make a good decision, and complete a pass or run the ball. He doesn’t throw bad passes or do stupid things just because you rush him.
If tech only rushes three Texas is going to get 8-10 yards every play, And quite a few of those will be running plays.
by Xerxes on
Oct 30, 2008 8:36 AM CDT
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My thoughts.....
Danielson is a complete moronic douchebag. Of course he’s going to say any SEC qb is better than Colt. Let’s see how the Heisman voters will vote. I’d like to see UGA, Fla, Bama, play against our junk offense. If by junk, he means simplistic, then yeah I would tend to agree with him.
I also like the last point PB brings up here. We are all so worried about losing, that we have taken the fun out of winning. I mean, how often to do other teams NOT rejoice and celebrate after they have beaten #1, 11, and 6? We should start to live it up and talk shit for boys becasue we are #1!
PB, I have been meaning to say this sometime this week but I kept on forgetting. I noticed that you, among others, were upset and put-off by the way people were posting on the Gameday thread. People were blasting players, cursing coaches, and damning our whole season. I’d like to say that although totally unreasonable, these posts were just ways for people to get out thier frustration. I mean, we have not had any adversity or second guessing all year until last Saturday. We have come to expect so much from this team, that anything below perfect is now unacceptable. I imagine that this has changed a little since the OSU game and people now realize that we are human and kids will be kids and cordinators will be cordinators. Just dont take those “rants” personal or even with a grain of salt.
by Texas_Fight on
Oct 30, 2008 8:43 AM CDT
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Welcome to...
…our reality. Funny how the same stuff UT fans say about Tech, Harrell, and our offense… kind of ticks you off?
I love ironasm.
Peace
... I'm just sayin'
by antiswarm on
Oct 30, 2008 8:47 AM CDT
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what is this ironasm you speak of?
Perhaps you meant the ironing is delicious?
Or perhaps you were speaking of ironasm’s cousin, the morgasm (mouth orgasm: when one eats something delicious, like ironing).
by jc25 on
Oct 30, 2008 10:02 AM CDT
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Don't google "ironasm" unless you want your mind blown
There are people who don’t think of robots like I do (shudders)
proud to swim home
by learned hand on
Oct 30, 2008 11:07 AM CDT
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Where would Stafford be without Knowshon Moreno
I bet his arm wouldn’t be as impressive
Perhaps the most recognizable mascot in sports, and certainly the toughest looking, Bevo is a fixture
by run Bevo run on
Oct 30, 2008 8:48 AM CDT
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Easy on the Danielson bashing...
…the guy is the best analyst in all of college football and is right alongside Ron Jaworski as the best football analyst on TV. Yes, perhaps the term “junk” was a bit harsh, but I think he’s just pointing out the fact that Texas doesn’t run a pro-style offense. I don’t think he was ripping Colt, I think he was just gushing over Stafford’s arm and pro potential. Besides, what he says has no bearing on Saturday’s game in Lubbock. Worry about Tech, not Gary Danielson.
by Sweed4Heisman on
Oct 30, 2008 8:50 AM CDT
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whoa, whoa, whoa
We can bash all we want on Gary. IDK who annonited him the best? I prefer both Blackledge and Herbstriet over Gary. And yes, I do think he was bashing Colt, otherwise he wouldnt have said it. However, I agree that he has no bearing (nor do we though) on Saturday’s game.
by Texas_Fight on
Oct 30, 2008 9:10 AM CDT
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Listen to him do a game...
… no other analyst has a feel for or grasp of the game like Danielson. Watch the Cocktail Party this weekend, and you will learn something new about football because of Danielson’s analysis.
by Sweed4Heisman on
Oct 30, 2008 11:14 AM CDT
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Not saying hes not good....
He is just way to biased. I thouroughyl enjoy his games with CBS, but he just licks SEC balls too much.
by Texas_Fight on
Oct 30, 2008 11:42 AM CDT
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Gary Danielson Rules
1. Don’t listen to him if he’s not on TV doing a game. He’s probably about to make an inflammatory comment.
2. Don’t listen to him if he’s on TV and there’s a full-screen graphic up. He’s probably about to engage in hyperbole.
3. Any other time, listen to him because he’s one of the best in-game analysts on any network.
by Year2 on
Oct 30, 2008 8:57 AM CDT
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Excelllent guide
But Gary Danielson’s desire to inflame really detracts from my ability to take him seriously at any point.
proud to swim home
by learned hand on
Oct 30, 2008 8:59 AM CDT
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There is a reason the guy is on TV.
that’s as close to the game he can get.
McCoy is 10 percentage points ahead of the next nearest QB in the record book in completion percentage. He has only a few more incomplete passes than TD’s, this is not a small thing, it’s gigantic!. He’s having one of the best seasons a QB has ever had in college football. Plus he’s the main reason his team is number 1# in the country.
Ok Danielson can have Stafford and a top ten finish, we’ll take McCoy a shot at the Heisman, a shot at a National Championship and maybe the best QB season in the history of College ball. what a dumb ass what do you call the drivers for team Yugo in NASCAR———- LOSERS!
by Xerxes on
Oct 30, 2008 10:33 AM CDT
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Quan
Your talk of the AS and Quan reminded me of something I was thinking last week….The way “Crosby” plays WR reminds me of Hines Ward. Excellent possession receiver, great body control and can shield the defender from the ball like no other his/their size. Plus, the guys throw downfield blocks you only dream about.
I think a large part of this is because of their football smarts. Both were QBs at some point (right?). Plus, Quan’s the old man of the team, so he’s had the time to develop his game (in between swinging the bat).
by BON Addict on
Oct 30, 2008 9:00 AM CDT
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Mountaintop Singing
BigRoy writes:
Fellow Longhorn fans, let’s take the next two days to enjoy the view from the pinnacle of college football and revel in this football team, that was never supposed to be in this position.
Here, here. Most of what we are seeing in blogosphere is nervous chit chat. Hold our breath. B.f*ing.S. We are Burnt Orange Nation. We have earned the right. Let’s all let loose our true Texas charm and be the damned ol’ swell heads we are. Enough of the dancing around the truth. This team is a rockin’ and deserves the struttin’. This does not come around too often so I say lay the wood to anyone and everyone who is not on board and get’s in the way.
Come on, WE’RE TEXAS! What happens here dominates the WORLD!
by TXStampede on
Oct 30, 2008 9:30 AM CDT
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Random points
1. If you have to site a players pro potential in an argument about college football, your argument is flawed from the beginning.
2. I don’t blame Tech fans for not respecting our pass rush. For 10 years our coaches talked about it and for 10 years it was nonexistant. I still have to make sure I’m not dreaming everytime I see one of our DL in the backfield this year.
3. Been trying to sit back and enjoy the season and it’s just not working. Realistically this team is at least 2 wins ahead of where I’d thought they’d be, but that just makes it all the more stressful. I’ll have plenty of time to enjoy these seasons when I’m dead.
by Horncasting on
Oct 30, 2008 9:45 AM CDT
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On a side note
In a week where the Texas Tech Athletic Department finally has a chance to show the country their team, they have remarkably shut off all access to the media. I’m guessing that’s what happened on Monday (maybe Tuesday) when Graham Harrel was supposed to be on College Football Live but never showed and Ryan Palmer ended up being called on.
Good job, Tech. Way to lose national exposure and maybe some money for the future.
by HornPossessed on
Oct 30, 2008 9:49 AM CDT
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television interviews/chats are outside distractions that help the program nationally, but not the team’s focus on this game. it also reduces the chance of someone saying something to piss off a program loaded with the talent to hurt you (a la last year’s holiday bowl and rudy carpenter’s shit talking)
by Displaced Longhorn on
Oct 30, 2008 10:13 AM CDT
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Agree
I think Tech is doing the right thing. It might have been a good ploy by Mack this week to keep the team focused.
by Horncasting on
Oct 30, 2008 11:30 AM CDT
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We're TEXAS...
and this is not the biggest game in our history…it’s not even the biggest game of the year (but it is the biggest game this week.). I believe Mack gives the guys a bit more lattitude because of the fact they’ve been there before, whereas TTU has very little experience in this regard.
HOOK ’EM…!
by Horns757 on
Oct 30, 2008 1:04 PM CDT
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Leach has been on the Colin Cowhered, Dan Patrick…Leach is notorious for limiting access to the players. This is nothing new or unique to Texas week.
by Tech92 on
Oct 30, 2008 1:07 PM CDT
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Also linked in that Texas Hate post
Apparently PB’s personal football jesus, Phil Steele, has picked a Tech upset.
I don’t have time to research all the picks, but it really seems like Phil has been strongly bearish on Texas post-Vince, while being unnaturally bullish on OU. So here’s hoping we prove him wrong again.
by jc25 on
Oct 30, 2008 10:07 AM CDT
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Phil Steele
Also predicted a Mizzou win and we saw how that turned out.
by HornPossessed on
Oct 30, 2008 10:30 AM CDT
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who gives a flyin phuk
about Matt Ryan. Please.
"...think about it: why would they lie.?..if you're dead, you can't smoke."
by burntorangenance on
Oct 30, 2008 10:19 AM CDT
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so TTU should go with rushing 3 and defending with 8?
Florida Atlantic tried that and Colt ran for 100 yards. Dixon and Williams are clearly better than FAU’s ends, but TTU can’t drop 8 most of the game, or Colt will scramble and throw over the top of the zone or run for first downs.
I disagree that you can’t pressure Texas. OSU’s best defensive plays were ones with 2 or more players blitzing. True Colt will beat it MOST of the time, but occasionally someone will break through and result in Colt throwing off his back foot or fumbling. It might only take 3 or 4 of those bad plays to stop drives or generate turnovers.
I predict Leach will bring the house, and try to single cover UT’s receivers. This was the formula that beat Kansas, and TTU has outscored the opposition 65-2 in the last 10 quarters while playing man-to-man defense. The Raiders will dare Colt to throw deep. The Horns need Williams, Collins and Kirkendoll to step up and challenge their coverage
by burnt in ny on
Oct 30, 2008 10:23 AM CDT
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I suspect you might be right on that. Force the early mistake.
Of course, you could give up the long TD, too.
If they rush three, this is a situation where I would like to have Fozzy in the game to weave through traffic downfield.
Your point is more that Tech will gamble, not thinking they have the straight up defense to get the job done.
by whills on
Oct 30, 2008 12:31 PM CDT
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Danielson
Remember that Danielson played pro ball in the era when the run-and-shoot was running up phenomenal yardage and threatening to put guys like Danielson out of work. No wonder he has a bias against a spread short pass offense.
Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. If they get mad, you're a mile away AND you have their shoes.
by Caradoc on
Oct 30, 2008 10:32 AM CDT
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stop getting you panties in a wad.....
good lord…..so what if some announcer who works for a company that has no contact whatsoever with your conference likes a different QB than yours? Not to mention the fact that this talk about Stafford being a prototypical pro-style QB has been going on since he WAS a resident of the great state of Texas. Colt is amazing – I love the kid. He stands for everything that I’ve always loved about Texas football since I was a little boy. And, being a born-and-raised Texan, I will root for them to win every game they play in (unless, of course, Georgia somehow finds its way into the title game against the Horns). Kudos to Colt for running Greg Davis’ version of the spread the way he is – especially without anything resembling a tight end. But if I’m picking a guy to run an I-based offense with a ton of “check-with-me” options, I want Stafford, plain and simple.
Cale Self
University of Georgia
Emmanuel College
Brevard Music Center
by allhailcale on
Oct 30, 2008 10:58 AM CDT
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stop getting your panties in a wad....
good lord…..so what if some blogger who writes for fun that has no contact with your team likes his QB who is the front runner for Heisman, better than your QB and dare to defend his QB. Good thing you came over and put everybody in his place, thanks.
In Mack Brown We Trust!
by Cyrus on
Oct 30, 2008 11:37 AM CDT
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way to miss the point, genius.....
…..in that, I was referring mostly to the comments on this post, not necessarily the original post itself. And I’m not quite sure that I would classify the OP’s entry as “defending his QB.” If he’s defending anything, it’s Greg Davis’ offense. The line, “I don’t think Matt Stafford could complete 80% of his passes against air,” kind of takes this beyond the level of mere defense, don’t you think? My intention was never to “put everybody in their place,” but rather to just point out the fact that one talking head saying he’d rather have one over the other isn’t justification for throwing the other under the bus and calling for said talking head’s head. Maybe I’m just weird because I’m both a Dawgs and a Horns fan. It is, after all, just a blog. And these, after all, are just comments…..
Cale Self
University of Georgia
Brevard Music Center
www.allhailcale.blogspot.com
by allhailcale on
Oct 30, 2008 1:05 PM CDT
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On the right side of your keyboard,
you will find both an “Enter” key and a “period”. Please feel free to use them from time to time.
by Shake on
Oct 30, 2008 4:18 PM CDT
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My apologies.....
…..if you can’t keep up. Seriously, it’s not that hard to follow. And by the way, if you’re going to criticize someone for their grammatical usage, I’m not the guy you want. I could dissect yours as well if you like, despite the fact that there’s a much smaller sample. Stick to sports friend, because I’m way out of your league when it comes to spelling and grammar.
P.S. I see the period, but where is the key for it?
Cale Self
University of Georgia
Brevard Music Center
www.allhailcale.blogspot.com
by allhailcale on
Oct 30, 2008 5:30 PM CDT
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Nerds
Congratulations on making engineers look cool and sociable.
by ryanlionrah on
Oct 30, 2008 5:34 PM CDT
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Is it just me,
or do I just not get this? I’m not at all above thinking that there’s jokes I don’t get (far from it), but this just seems like it’s insulting someone else…..
Cale Self
University of Georgia
Brevard Music Center
www.allhailcale.blogspot.com
by allhailcale on
Oct 30, 2008 5:45 PM CDT
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I'm pretty sure...
… the engineers are from Georgia TECH, ryanlionrah.
by Sweed4Heisman on
Oct 30, 2008 5:56 PM CDT
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I will root for (Texas) to win every game they play in (unless, of course, Georgia somehow finds its way into the title game against the Horns).
Pretty sure this is a Sports Rooting Infraction…just sayin’…
by DaGoose on
Oct 30, 2008 3:51 PM CDT
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I would beg for an exception based on extenuating circumstances. After 22 years, I left Texas to begin my doctorate at UGA. Also, although I’ll be a life-long fan, I never actually attended the University of Texas. I have two degrees from WTAMU up in Canyon.
Cale Self
University of Georgia
Brevard Music Center
www.allhailcale.blogspot.com
by allhailcale on
Oct 30, 2008 5:32 PM CDT
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Gary Danielson believes all spread offenses are "junk offenses"
And this has rightfully earned him the wrath of Brian Cook.
proud to swim home
by learned hand on
Oct 30, 2008 11:27 AM CDT
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What mystifies me is why Danielson, and about a thousand other writers, thinks that the fact that Stafford is the better pro prospect has ANY EFFING BEARING WHATSOEVER on which QB is the better collegiate quarterback.
The NFL is a different game. Tommie Frazier and Danny Wuerfell were much better college quarterbacks than Tom Brady could’ve ever dreamed of being. Does that mean these hacks would’ve taken Brady over Frazier or Wuerfell if he wanted to win a college game?
by burntorangehorn on
Oct 30, 2008 11:40 AM CDT
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Add taking over your site
Hey,
I read your site on a mac running Sarafi, a pretty popular combo these days. Anyways, a cannon elf add is abusing you website like Shipley abused OU’s backup MLB. It pops up in the middle of lead article, offers no close box, and stays there FOREVER. Anyways, you site is unreadable (literally) untll has been taken car of.
by honkskillet on
Oct 30, 2008 12:07 PM CDT
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PS
I reloaded your page in another window and a different add popup up and behaved itself … insofar as there was a close button on it. I guess it was just the Cannon elf add.
by honkskillet on
Oct 30, 2008 12:08 PM CDT
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i didn’t even know BON had advertisements, ad-block plus takes care of 99% of stuff, it’s a firefox extension.
by Displaced Longhorn on
Oct 30, 2008 1:57 PM CDT
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PPS
I take that back. I re-reloaded the page and now and add for a Canon memory holder is raping you page.
by honkskillet on
Oct 30, 2008 12:10 PM CDT
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College style vs Pro style - will this dichotomy ever cease to exist?
I’m sure this has been written up elsewhere, but I was curious:
With the increased popularity of the spread and more and more college players moving into the pros from that system, will there be a time when pro style HAS to become college style, simply because of the difficulty of retraining the draftees?
Or is it a null point because only QBs struggle to make the adjustment?
by TXinDC on
Oct 30, 2008 12:22 PM CDT
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Like your tags
It's a Horns' world. Even Aggies play hoops with a burnt orange ball.
by Speedway on
Oct 30, 2008 12:26 PM CDT
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Holy crap, I'm so pumped!
Is it Saturday yet?
It doesn't matter if you win or lose, as long as you come in first.
by Super Saiyan Patrick on
Oct 30, 2008 12:37 PM CDT
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Gary's Accolades
Now let’s don’t jump to soon to criticize Gary Danielson. I mean, he’s got all those “All-Pro” years as QB with the perennial powerhouse Detroit Lions. And throw those Super Bowl victories in on top of …, wait a cotton pickin’ minute – Gary who ??
by HalfmileHorn on
Oct 30, 2008 12:53 PM CDT
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This thread should be nominated for Overraction of The Week. He’s a freaking announcer who is paid to cover the SEC. Of COURSE he is going to favor an SEC kid who he’s seen numerous times in person. Has he ever called a UT game? Formed any relationships with players at UT? Doubtful…
by Tech92 on
Oct 30, 2008 1:13 PM CDT
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Went onto Facebook......
Sam Acho may have put this week best into words: “Preparation alleviates pressure”.
This tells me there’s no doubt the Horns will be ready and not worried come gametime out west.
Also, three or four guys had a form of “Tired” listed as thier status………uh oh
by Texas_Fight on
Oct 30, 2008 1:35 PM CDT
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Matt Stafford has only have one 300 yd passing game as a college QB
His production and the NFL hype do not match.
by Beergut on
Oct 30, 2008 1:41 PM CDT
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hey genius.....
…..guess who else only had one career 300 yard passing game in his collegiate career: Tom Brady. Ironically, his production and his NFL hype didn’t match either. Nice work though, lol…..
Cale Self
University of Georgia
Brevard Music Center
www.allhailcale.blogspot.com
by allhailcale on
Oct 30, 2008 1:58 PM CDT
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And where was Tom drafted? I bet he was all hyped to be the pro QB too wasnt he!
Also, what other QBs have only had one career 300 yard passing game and not made it to the NFL? Or flunked out without making a noise?
Ill bet more than made it!
Nice work though.
by BoddickerIsClutch on
Oct 30, 2008 2:05 PM CDT
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Tom Brady didn’t have any NFL-prototype hype coming out of Michigan. A closer comparison to Stafford would be someone who came in as a top-ranked passer recruit who really didn’t produce much in college (EXACTLY what has happened with Stafford so far), like Xavier Lee, Kyle Wright, or Anthony Morelli.
by burntorangehorn on
Oct 30, 2008 2:17 PM CDT
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seriously....?
Did you just equate Stafford to Lee, Wright, and Morelli? That’s laughable. You’d have made a much better argument with names like George and Leaf. Bottom line is, no one will know until all of these guys take the next step to the pros, so the argument is exactly pointless as of right now. What’s curious is how personally you are all taking Danielson’s comments. Lighten up…..
Cale Self
University of Georgia
Brevard Music Center
www.allhailcale.blogspot.com
by allhailcale on
Oct 30, 2008 3:54 PM CDT
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Using the exception as the basis of your argument doesn't work too well.
by ryanlionrah on
Oct 30, 2008 5:37 PM CDT
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perhaps.....
but it illustrated my point, did it not? Does anyone else here honestly think that number of 300+ yard passing games as a collegian is an accurate litmus test for predicting pro potential?
Cale Self
University of Georgia
Brevard Music Center
www.allhailcale.blogspot.com
by allhailcale on
Oct 30, 2008 5:49 PM CDT
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Tom Brady als spent a fair amount of time on the bench in college b/c of Drew Henson
That is a terrible comparison.
I’m just not sure why anyone should buy the Stafford hype when he has shown absolutely NOTHING in college so far.
by Beergut on
Oct 30, 2008 7:15 PM CDT
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I completely agree with Beergut...
Is it cold in here? Everything is going dark…
Just for fun…
Matt Stafford, year by year
Freshman: 52, 1749 yards, 7 TD’s, 13 INT’s
Soph: 55, 2523 yards, 19 TD’s, 10 INT’s
Junior (8 games): 62%, 1946 yards, 12 TD’s, 5 INT’s
What a prospect!
by ctex80 on
Oct 30, 2008 7:32 PM CDT
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so, I'm curious.....
…..what’s the definition of doing something in college?
Cale Self
University of Georgia
Brevard Music Center
www.allhailcale.blogspot.com
by allhailcale on
Oct 30, 2008 9:30 PM CDT
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Awww, come on now,
you can figure that out easily enough. There are at least 10 quarterbacks in college right now who have shown more than Stafford. Bradford, McCoy, Daniel, Harrell, Tebow, Robinson, Sanchez, Clark, White, Reesing, Grothe, etc. I’d take any of these guys to QB my college team before Stafford.
Now granted, most of these guys aren’t as good of pro prospects as Stafford, because of arm strength and size concerns. And none of this is to say that Stafford won’t develop in to a solid pro. But I do think that most people view Stafford’s career at Georgia thus far as a disappointment. Beyond being able to throw the ball a country mile, I just haven’t seen Stafford do anything that made me say “wow”. You know?
I actually think that Stafford is one of the top 5 pro prospect QB’s out there. But I think that potential is largely based on measurables and not on performance. I only entered this conversation because the Brady analogy rubbed me the wrong way. Feel free to defend your guy, but try to do so with something other than a comparison to the draft anomaly that is Tom Brady.
by ctex80 on
Oct 30, 2008 10:29 PM CDT
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Ask Colt.
Maybe being the all-time school leader in touchdowns, being the leading Heisman contender, putting your team in the NC picture by beating 3 top 15 teams in row, when no one expected you to, and setting yourself up to have “legendary” status at the school. Obviously that does complete the definition, but it’s definitely a start.
by Hookem4life84 on
Oct 30, 2008 10:34 PM CDT
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That's twice...
you referred to someone condescendingly as “genius”. That, along with your general know-it-all attitude, have unfortunately allowed you to streak past all comers in The Biggest Prat on BON Sweepstakes. And I don’t care how many years you spent in Texas…apparently you’ve been away long enough to have lost most, if not all, of your manners.
Beergut: Congratulations; you have risen from the depths…!
HOOK ’EM…!
by Horns757 on
Oct 31, 2008 6:46 AM CDT
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so sue me.....
…..if I don’t have the self-restraint to lay off a comment that has no bearing whatsoever on the current discussion. Of course, that makes me the bad guy. Also, congrats to you for being able to assess my apparently-changing personality with the help of only a few posts on the internet. Don’t attack me just because I’m not wearing Colt McCoy knee-pads. I don’t know it all (far from it); I just know a lot. Oh, and lighten up, hahahahaha…..
Cale Self
University of Georgia
Brevard Music Center
www.allhailcale.blogspot.com
by allhailcale on
Oct 31, 2008 11:14 AM CDT
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Please don't be made.
Just wanted to let you know I plaegerised ( I do not know if that is how you spell it) your paragraph about Rak to go talk smack to the Double T crowd. I am sick of listening about Reed and how strong their offensive line is.
by HornsRiverine on
Oct 30, 2008 1:54 PM CDT
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It's Plagiarize
And all you did was make some dumbass remarks on Double T Nation. Nice job!
Being an accountant and famous don't go together. If you're a famous accountant, you probably did something wrong.
by Boarder on
Oct 30, 2008 2:04 PM CDT
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Well thanks there buddy.
nope I don’t got me college edumaction, I made a dumbass move and decided to defend this country instead, and I am getting ready to head back to Iraq as a matter of fact. Boarder that is the only dumbass thing I have ever done. I think I left some good comments on doublet.
by HornsRiverine on
Oct 30, 2008 2:50 PM CDT
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We all...
Appreciate your service to our nation sir. Football is one thing, going to war is another. God bless you and yours when you go back and keep you safe.
1 Peter 2:17
by HornsFan87 on
Oct 31, 2008 4:24 PM CDT
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Man I hate Tech fans.
Calling each other’s team out is fine and all part of the blogosphere, but when it so quickly digresses into personal cuts its stupid. I can’t think of any other team’s fans that do this so quickly.
by hornalum08 on
Oct 30, 2008 3:18 PM CDT
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I was referring to my fellow Techie…hornalum, you should have seen the crap that went on our DTN board during aTm week. It was a joke…and over at 12th man, they’re still laying into us…
by Tech92 on
Oct 30, 2008 3:55 PM CDT
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Apologies.
Since it wasn’t formatted as a reply to the Techie i thought the worst. And to be honest i had a hard time believing it since you have generally been very polite this week, unlike antiswarm.
And aggies are a whole different story. Tech fans will come on here and joke around when we play them, and if they are posting and Texas isn’t about to play Tech, they are never trolling or inciting Tech-Texas fights. And i really appreciate that.
Aggies have been known to do otherwise. Anyone remember he-who-shall-not-be-named? (Hint, it’s Brazos).
by hornalum08 on
Oct 30, 2008 5:08 PM CDT
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No worries
it’s actually more fun going back and forth on the opponents blogs just to get differing opinions. It’s not much fun (or intellectually interesting) to sit around and type, “A&M sucks,” and have some other guy say, “yeah!” on your own team’s site.
by Tech92 on
Oct 30, 2008 8:12 PM CDT
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I've never seen so much rage on BON before.....
Not sure I like it……Take that shit to the Shag if you ask me……
by Texas_Fight on
Oct 30, 2008 3:55 PM CDT
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Tech fans never miss a chance to earn their reputation.
(Tech92 may be an exception to the rule).
by the1austin on
Oct 30, 2008 7:45 PM CDT
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Surprising stat
Cosby only needs one reception to tie Mike Adams for second an UT’s all time list (Roy Williams is first).
Saw that in the paper today and found it surprising.
by Horncasting on
Oct 30, 2008 4:10 PM CDT
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Sure handed Quan
Kid has don so much for this team (and the four previous for that matter). One of the best Horns we have ever seen. Great man too.
by Texas_Fight on
Oct 30, 2008 5:07 PM CDT
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Someone needs to inform Danielson
that Tom Brady plays in a junk offense in the NFL.
by Beergut on
Oct 30, 2008 7:19 PM CDT
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Maybe
Maybe we need to set up a game between UGA and Tech. I bet there would be some entertaining remarks in the blogs.
Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. If they get mad, you're a mile away AND you have their shoes.
by Caradoc on
Oct 31, 2008 10:41 AM CDT
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actually.....
…..a couple of years ago when the Horns and the Dawgs both had an open date for week one, I was seriously hoping for a Texas-Georgia home-and-home. Of course, that never came to fruition and we ended up destroying Okie St. in Athens a year ago. Man, that would’ve been a fantastic match-up.
Cale Self
University of Georgia
Brevard Music Center
www.allhailcale.blogspot.com
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Oct 31, 2008 11:24 AM CDT
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