Talkin Texas: Oklahoma Week (Part 2)
PB: We saw McCoy have a very good-not-otherworldly game against Colorado in large part because--in my view--it's becoming a little -too- clear where and how McCoy is going to beat you. And it ain't diverse enough to dominate as competition increases. Correct me where I'm wrong and/or tell me what's got to happen Saturday to keep OU from honing in on our bread and butter.
Big Roy: I think that's a serious issue to be determined by the quality of the OU secondary. Can the take away the underneath passes that have become our bread-and-butter?
PB: That's not a talent issue, though, is it? Whatever we think of their back seven, they are athletic enough to execute a defensive game plan centered on our known strengths. I guess what I'm trying to get at is: Assume I'm right that OU can and will limit to some meaningful degree our Known Strengths. Where does our boost come from?
Big Roy: Maybe there has to be a hero come from nowhere like Chris Ogbonnaya did against Colorado. Fozzy Whittaker could be a huge boost if he's healthy enough to play. Brandon Collins and James Kirkendoll have shown some elusiveness. I think the other major x-factor is Greg Davis. Does he come up with an innovative game plan that can break big plays like Jermichael Finley did last year or will he lay a 2004 12-0 egg? Where is your confidence level on Greg Davis showing some major wrinkles he's keep in reserve just for OU?
PB: Two points here: First, your answer sort of highlights the problem, insofar as "hero out of nowhere" highlights that beyond our Known Strengths, there has been Nothing. Second, in bringing up Finley, you touched on another point I was about to make: it's this Saturday where Irby's presence will most be missed. Combining those two points together, then, what do we have left? I'd say there are two known universes we need to explore: (1) With Fozzy and (2) Without. Envisioning a more balanced game plan -with- him is feasible. But let's slog through without.
If I'm Oklahoma, I'm spying McCoy with Keenan Clayton, playing Quan and Shipley tight within 10 yards of scrimmage, and betting my defensive line takes care of the rest if Texas is forced to wait for something to open up deep. Assume that's OU's strategy and don your offensive coordinator cap: What's your counter?
Big Roy: I'd like to scrap the two tight end look and go four wide receivers to spread the field. Maybe even some five wide looks splitting Chris O out wide to try to get a mismatch against a linebacker. That's the universe without Fozzy. With Fozzy I think we may get some plays out of our base offense running the ball because I'm not convinced OU's linebackers are even as good as ours. Anything to add?
PB: First, I absolutely agree: Spread the field. As much as possible. Make Oklahoma defend sideline to sideline, with as many defenders occupied in man coverage as possible. Among other things, that gives Colt the best opportunity to be a playmaker. And he's It, right now. The second thing I'd do which I cannot understand why we haven't/don't is use screens better. Everyone hates the bubble screen, but as a concept, we probably need to use screens of all types against Oklahoma--using their aggressiveness against them. A great offensive game plan will turn weaknesses into strengths: In Texas' case, that can mean showing our bread and butter to entice a hungry defense to overpursue. I have every confidence that Oklahoma will be over-locked in on what we've shown so far this year. It's up to Davis and Applewhite to use it against them.
Alright, let's wrap the heavy talk and conclude with a little fan talk. Gimme your honest feeling on Sunday night. We gonna lose?
Big Roy: Having come to UT in 2002, I think I'm conditioned to be scared against Oklahoma. Just the loser attitude Texas teams took into that game so many times. I think Oklahoma wins a close game, as much as it pains me to believe that. Are you any more optimistic?
PB: God I want this win badly, Big Roy. BADLY. The -entire- narrative changes if we win on Saturday. If we lose, we're far from off course... It's just... if we win... The trajectory of Texas football took a decided turn after we lost to Texas A&M. Mack got humiliated. And got angry. And got Muschamp. And literally everything has trended positive since then. Why not this, too?
Big Roy: Why not, indeed. We are Texas. I want to see some more little crying OU fans. I want to wax Bradford like Bomar got waxed. Everything changes if Texas wins this game. Missouri looks winnable and a national championship is a legitimate goal. This game will go a long way towards determining what Texas has with this football team. A win here sends the trajectory of this Texas football team headed towards the stratosphere.
PB: It does. It really damn does. The key here is that this is a Texas team that's gonna be progressively harder and harder to beat with each successive week. If getting past OU is a monumental challenge, it's almost unfair to ourselves to dream "what if" Texas wins on Saturday. Because we may become a runaway train. Stop me, dude.
Big Roy: I don't want to. I want to believe in this team. I believe in Colt McCoy. I believe in Lamarr Houston and Brian Orakpo and Sergio Kindle and Roy Miller. I want to live the dream again. Make me, believe Texas!
PB: Woooooo! I'm fired up. We can do this. RUNAWAY TRAIN. KINDLE AS THE CONDUCTOR. ROY MILLER THE CATTLE GUARD PLOWING SOONER MEAT! WOOOOOO!
Big Roy: Yeah, baby! Look at Rak flip that Sooner Schooner! Ship, on a double move torching the OU D again! Give me helmet and send me in Muschamp, I'm ready to hit somebody! BOOM! Knock those motherf&^%$s out! I'm not hurt, coach, put me back in!
I'd like to note that I just gave myself a concussion, Gus Frerotte-style. I'm a little jacked up here.
PB: Ah, reality bites. Two skinny bloggers nerding out over the big game...
Big Roy: Gotta bring the intensity.
PB: But you know what is true no matter what you and I say or do, Big Roy?
Big Roy: I believe I do, PB.
It's 12:33 and OU still sucks.
PB: Amen, brother. A-freaking-men. Bottoms up.
Big Roy: Indeed.
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I know the odds are slim
But if at any point, I see Colt, Chris O, and Cody Johnson line up in the very not gay tOSU pistol formation, I will dance around like a gleeful madman (even if the play goes for no yardage).
proud to swim home
by learned hand on Oct 8, 2008 12:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Ou- Tx
If we can pressure Bradford and dont turn the ball over I KNOW we can win I dont think bradford can take a hit very well he got hit by a TCU player whatever weekend they played them and got up limping. If we come in a just lay the wood to him a few times i think it will throw his game all off. As much as I hate OU i dont wanna see him get hurt cause I dont think anyone deserves possible there career destoried cause of an injury I just wanna make him hear the footsteps coming all day long. More or less I just wanna see bradford on his back all day and the Longhorns belong. Since the start of the season all you heard was Ou this and Ou that nobody even gave us a chance and I was a little scared the first game since then i have never looked back. We may not be the greatest football team this year but we are winning by what we should and getting better every week. I live in OK so i live for this game every year all my in laws are Ou fans of course they all were born in OK and i was born and lived in the greatest state of all TX and lived there most my life. I making this statement Now TX beats ou ill donate 10K to the football at years end and I beileve we have a damn good shot at doing it. Ive been excited all this week Saturday cant come fast enough.
by Bchildress on Oct 8, 2008 12:43 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Wow
Quite a promise, sir.
Hook ’em
--PB--
by Peter Bean on Oct 8, 2008 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Awesome
Reading that post just got me so fired up for Saturday.
by EME on Oct 8, 2008 1:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Question
Why hasn’t Fozzy played much/at all this year and how good is he?
The Ralphie Report - University of Colorado Athletics
by Jon Woods on Oct 8, 2008 1:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Injured
As far as how good he is, that’s more or less an unknown. Against UTEP, he had a good day, showing good quickness and gaining 6.0 yards per carry, but those twelve carries are it. In any case, if he’s healthy, I think Mack has to take a chance on him, despite his past tendency to avoid using inexperienced players if he can, particularly in big games.
by TheElusiveShadow on Oct 8, 2008 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Winning the Internets.
You’re doin’ it RIGHT!
by Horn Brain on Oct 8, 2008 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Foswhitt
Is a mythological creature. He is thought to have appeared in the UTEP game, but then disappeared entirely from history. Rumored traits include Devin Hester speed, Earl Campbell strength, four arms, and temporary invisibility.
It was fun to see him that one time, but I don’t think that he’s the savior of this team. They’re going to have to dig in and make something special with what they’ve got. If the Fozz shows up and makes Nic Harris explode, then great, but I’m not counting on him… I’m counting on the five members of the o-line to collectively destroy whatever linemen blowU can piece together for this game. If that happens, the rest will fall into place with or without an all-star RB.
by Tackchevy on Oct 8, 2008 2:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Other options
As I noted in my fanpost, I think the emergence of legit third options for Colt will be needed. I agree with you guys that we need to spread the field, but that means we need receivers who can get open against single coverage and make a play. Chris O. can be used to create matchup problems, but unfortunately, Irby will not be there to do the same. I’m hoping for a breakout game from Kirkendoll or Williams.
Then again, if Colt runs for 200 yards and Shipley and Cosby go nuts, then we may not need that. But it’s hard to imagine Oklahoma not trying mightily to force Colt to defer to other options.
by TheElusiveShadow on Oct 8, 2008 2:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Impact of this game
Everything changes if Texas wins this game. Missouri looks winnable and a national championship is a legitimate goal. This game will go a long way towards determining what Texas has with this football team. A win here sends the trajectory of this Texas football team headed towards the stratosphere.
All those things are true, but there is one other truth that is missing. This game is our only shot at keeping OU from winning yet another Big 12 championship and playing in the MNC game. With the projected teams coming back next year, this could be the proverbial boot on OU’s neck that we somehow failed to plant after our own MNC.
by Horncasting on Oct 8, 2008 2:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
OU
Has defensive skills (and nunchuk skills) that far surpass anyone we’ve gone up against thus far, and we won’t be able to get by with Colt breaking tackles and two WRs. I’d really like to see Buckner start running deep routes every other play, or see “the real Q package” show up. Or see Malcolm Williams do anything like what was discussed on here and other places during the summer. On that note, if Colt lines up at WR ever this game, I’m breaking into the press box.
by Tackchevy on Oct 8, 2008 2:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Even with nunchuks
I’d like to see them box Orakpo and Miller.
by TheElusiveShadow on Oct 8, 2008 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Indeed
Far beyond this season and everyone’s short-term euphoria, the final score and the tone of this game will play heavily into the recruitment of McFarland, Kennard, and…. Whatever that stud DB’s name from Alabama is.
by Tackchevy on Oct 8, 2008 2:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Dre Kirkpatrick
Kennard has his list down to five schools and OU isn’t one of them. Arizona State, UCLA, USC and Cal. The game may have an impact on the McFarland recruitment, and even though he’s interested in OU, I haven’t seen anything that suggests OU is as close as Texas and LSU are at the moment.
by GhostofBigRoy on Oct 8, 2008 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
McFarland
Some of the mods on Orangebloods think OU is ahead of LSU and that mom (our ace in the hole) may be warming up to OU as well.
Currently our NFL DT/DL resume is better than either OU’s or LSU’s (and we’ll add at least 2 more DL this draft) so hopefully that will have some pull.
by Horncasting on Oct 8, 2008 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
offensive tendencies vs OU
There are really two directions this game could go based on what GD has said this week. While he’s talked about breaking tendencies, we know that his most dependable tendency is to talk about tendencies but never actually break them. Especialy not with a week to prepare.
So first, let’s assume he doesn’t break his tendencies. Ok, what are they? First and foremost – personnel and how he utilizes them. So, (a) Texas will lean heavily on Colt in the running game. Next, (b) Ogbonnaya and McGee will see the ball more than Cody (some) or Fozzy (zilch). and finally ©, Colt will look to either Quan or Ship for roughly 25 attempts. Also, against OU our tendency is to use the TE more than normal because this is the guy OU typically gives us. This year, we have to break this tendency by default.
The next tendency is playcalling and formations. So here we expect to see trips with a lone back often, a sprinkling of 2 TE sets, and some 4 or 5 WR formations. Playcalling-wise, don’t expect to see much play action, expect to see some bootlegs, a healthy dose of screens, and no deep balls. In the running game, we’ll see mostly zone reads, with some counters or traps. In other words, spread out OU with our WRs and hope that our backs can run east and west before turning it north and south.
At the end of the day, our tendencies are simple. We’re going to put 11 guys on the field and generally not try to out-smart you or out-flank you. We’re going put a helmet on a helmet and look for man-to-man coverage we can exploit in the passing game, or hope that we can get a LB in the wrong gap in the running game. If Greg does this, we better hope we get a defensive TD. (which by the way, I have a sneaking suspicion we’ll get). Still, with the lack of sure-fire talent on offense that we currently have, the only sure-fire is you can’t win with tendencies.
However, if Greg finally decides to break tendencies which ones are we best suited to break and which ones have the best combination of cost/benefit to break?
Without a versatile TE or FB, the options in the running game are severely limited. I don’t think their are any tendencies worth breaking here. The running game is just going to come down to whether we can stay fresh and open holes.
The passing game does have some tendencies we can break in our advantage. First, its adding a bit of a vertical passing game with Buckner or M. Williams. Take a shot or two early to one of these guys to force the safety to keep an eye on them. If you don’t mess with the safeties saturday, Quan and Ship will not get open. Keep looking downfield on early downs, and especially on a 3rd and short near midfield. Stoops would do it, wouldn’t he?
Second, attack the middle of the field, not the edges. Once you spread the formation you have to attack the area between LBs and safeties. Colt’s biggest weakness to me is his arm strength particularly on the out routes. Decent corners can get to his ball, and a pick on these routes usually means 6 the other way. So instead of see a healthy dose of out patterns, Colt needs to be confident and throw in some traffic over the middle. Look for Collins and Kirkendoll on the routes because of their elusiveness.
by BMG on Oct 8, 2008 4:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
what team have you all been watching during the the Mack era??
Nothing changes until AFTER the Red River Shootout. It took the best qb in college football history to somewhat flex their game plan against OU. Even then, it was only for one year. The year before, same old, same old. Using Finley down the middle was creative and exciting? Wow, i am surprised. Leopards dont change their spots. God, I will happily eat crow with a side of toe jam to be wrong but c’mon!. Albert Einstein wrote his quote about a Mack Brown/Greg Davis offensive game plan when he said : Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
Add Mack Brown to club of Napoleon Benoparte, Arnold Schwarzeneggar, Tom Green, and John Kruk!
"Don't ask yourself what the world needs -- ask yourself what makes you come alive, and then go do it. Because what the world needs is people who have come alive."
-- Harold Thurman Whitman
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