Former Texas Coach Robinson is Done
Syracuse head coach Greg Robinson, who was hired to resurrect a faltering program and instead saw it plummet to historic lows, was fired on Sunday. Greg Robinson's job security at Syracuse was shaky for some time. He leaves the program with nine wins just shy of four seasons. Robinson, who had the only two 10-loss seasons in school history, was 9-35 in three-plus seasons at the helm and 3-23 in the Big East. He had another year on a contract that paid him $1.1 million per season. Syracuse (2-8, 1-5) lost to Connecticut 39-14 Saturday night. Athletics director Daryl Gross said Sunday he has informed Robinson he's decided "to move our football program in a new direction."Syracuse What do you think, BON'ers? Is Robinson a bad head coach, or is Syracuse just in the midst of a football wasteland as far as recruiting and fan support go?
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A bit of both
Syracuse isn’t a great football place, but Robinson honestly didn’t do well and his firing is more or less deserved.
by TheElusiveShadow on Nov 16, 2008 4:04 PM CST reply actions
As is almost always the case,
it’s all about recruiting. Robinson and his staff could not do it.
School had already tumbled significantly in the latter years of Paul Pasqualoni (pair of 6-6 seasons and a 4-8) after being a national power under Dick MacPherson in the late ’80s and under Pasqualoni (1991-2004) until about 1997. Robinson did not inherit much talent and was unable to do a lot about it.
According to Rivals, Syracuse recruiting under Robinson was 56th in 2005, then 51, 48 and 48 the last three seasons — awfully low for a BCS conference. Current depth chart lists about a dozen seniors (comparable to UT but small as senior classes go) and just 6-7 juniors, so next coach should have something to build with by the year after next.
You can win at Syracuse, if you can recruit the Northeast...
And sadly, Greg couldn’t. He won’t be unemployed long, the guy is a great defensive coach.
Finally!
Now the holiday conversations with my wife’s Syracuse alum family members will be about something besides GR. I like Coach Robinson, personally, and even defended him yearly, but perhaps this season (which will be spent in Syracuse) I can spend more time talking hoops smack. If we ever meet the Orange in the Final Four again, we will kick their Traffic-cone Orange asses.
Good Luck, Coach. Now come back to the South, where recruits have talent and folks understand the game.
Greggo
If Muschamp leaves i hope Mack doesn’t hire him back.
You are crazy to not want him back!
How many UT defensive coordinators have flipped off and cussed out ou fans?…..I love that guy and always laugh when I think about him flippin’ the mobilehoma fans and tellin’ them what he thought of em…
by SneezyBeltran on Nov 17, 2008 12:37 AM CST up reply actions
OU DC will likely get a HC job after the season
God forbid the Land Thieves hire him to shore up that woeful D.
Still a Blaine Irby fan
by patienthornsfan on Nov 17, 2008 2:13 AM CST up reply actions
Syracuse is a good program with a nice tradition and a proud history
Robinson just was not a good head coach in any way, shape, or form.
Pasqualoni made that program a powerhouse for a while in the Big East, so there is potential there.
In the weakened state the Big East is in now, there is no reason a good coach can’t go back there and make it a dominant program again.
There is talent in New York and New Jersey in football, you just have to recruit it. Syracuse is a good enough academic school that you can recruit some nationally, so you can get it done there. Robinson just wasn’t the right guy for that job.
Are you talking about Mike Sherman or Greg Robinson?
Perhaps the most recognizable mascot in sports, and certainly the toughest looking, Bevo is a fixture
by run Bevo run on Nov 17, 2008 8:18 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I love this YouTube bit
“The Douchiest Recruiting Message in History” starring G-Rob.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPMw0iE4b3Y
It's Mean to Ween
a bird's eye view
Having lived in Syracuse the last seven years, I can tell you the three sources of failure for Greg Robinson. All are fixable.
1. recruiting. The Carrier Dome has lost its luster as a place to play, and Robinson did not recruit nationally. Connecticut got some players that otherwise would have gone to SU, and the rise of Rutgers may have been a direct consequence of Syracuse’s fall (Ray Rice chose Rutgers over SU, and Mike Hart chose Michigan over SU, for example)
2. offensive strategy. Robinson tried to install the West Coast offense (Bill Callahan and the Nebraska implosion anyone?) and made every QB on the roster a miserable wreck. He did not coach to match his personnel.
3. attitude. Robinson was a champion optimist, to the point where the players seemed to show complete indifference to the game. When you lose 52-3 and the coach says, “We’re making progress,” the team just doesn’t play hard.
If SU was willing to put up the dough for a dynamic young coach somewhat off the radar, Joe Paterno’s eventual retirement could open enough recruting possibilities to get the program back solid again. The bigger problem is a general lack of talent in the North relative to the South, Southwest, and in California. New York high school teams only play 8 regular season games, and skill position players often play lacrosse in the spring. If you count camps, spring football in high school and the longer season, warm-weather players are often twice as experienced and skilled, and likely better-trained for football, than their northern counterparts by the time they enter college.
Thanks, Burnt,
for the NE football update. Do you know where MacPherson/Pasqualoni got their talent Areas Robinson couldn’t/didn’t recruit, or were they just better head coaches?
My earliest FBC memories are of the Davis-Davis-Schwartzwalder Orange nearly 50 years ago — team that beat Texas in the Cotton Bowl (that UT team evidently was pictured negatively in The Express). I always pulled for Syracuse against the other Eastern powers (Penn State, Pitt, W.Virginia, BC).
recruiting history
SU used to own New Jersey and the NYC suburbs, including Long Island. Western and central New York has nearly 2 million people, and SU was uncontested there. They also occasionally stole a few from Pennsylvania, particularly the eastern coal cities and Philadelphia (Donovan McNabb), and from Boston.
Pasqualoni did OK with recruiting, but Syracuse had no identity on offense, and this eventually led to a loss of players.
When Robinson first got to SU, he tried to recruit the South, and especially Florida, and came up empty.
The whole situation makes you appreciate Mack Brown all the more, because it just shows you how fragile a good program can be. It also proves what happens when a school gets too loyal to its coaches (Phil Fulmer at Tenessee?) and too frugal.

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