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The Real Game: Recruiting

Tonight's Texas Tech at Oklahoma game may have epochal ramifications if Tech should win - and no place more resounding than in recruiting in Texas.

OU, Texas and Texas A&M have all had their heydays with Texas recruits. When one or two of the three were down, the others would shoulder the way through the out-of-state schools always nibbling at the fringes of the Texas crop, always deeper and more talented than any other state. This core not only fed the Texas colleges, but surrounding states and any other program who could target and create a presence in the state. And the smaller schools down the line still found plenty of talent.

So, why is tonight so important? Currently Texas under Mack Brown and OU under Bob Stoops have the capability and the big time presence to lure not only the best in Texas, but also pick up stray 5-stars across the football universe. Texas Tech has always been on the downside of the current, picking off enough to be successful but never breaking through the MNC ceiling. Hell, they've never been able to get the key wins when Mt. Olympus beckoned. Was it lack of talent? Lack of coaching? Self-destructive tendencies? Maybe that and more.

Tonight that could all change. Big Game Bob has been losing his touch and while no one denies he's a great coach, the murmurs of discontent echo in the back alleys of Norman. OU has the weight of history and expectation and a not to be discounted home crowd of red clad fanatics. Many don't think there is a way in hell they lose this game. No way.

Star-divide

Tech has everything to gain and nothing to lose. Blasting through a consecutive games that have been the most important and grandiose in their history, making good on their pre-season hype, they have the attention of the nation - and you can betcha your dust visor, the hearts of a few recruits. But the real slice of history is the opportunity to make a grand entry into the recruiting wars. Regardless of your historical period in the last 50 years, only two schools have dominated the process at a time. That has varied, there might have been years when three or four sustained some success, but basically the balance has been between two parties.

Tech can change that balance tonight. Even if Tech should lose, they will have made inroads, they will make some gains, but they will still be just the lead of the pack. But tonight they can shove down OU's throat tonight, for OU and Stoops stand to be the real losers in this equation.

If Tech should win - and especially if they make it to the BCS title game - suddenly they will gain access they have never had on a national and state-wide scale. Texas, in securing Muschamp, can definitely set their case before recruits: Muschamp will be here, Major will be here (albeit for a more questionable period), Mack will be here and you can, too. Tech can't dent this. But Stoops has no such insurance.

Ironically, Texas showed how to play both Tech and OU, both in the second halves of their games. Tech will have to endure a rabid first half crowd, will have to continue to subsume their own self-destructive mistakes, will have to be the best their have been (as in the first half vs. Texas, the game vs. OSU). Their defense will have to prove it is the entity they have ballyhooed all season. This will be a horserace, with OU capable of taking the early lead and staying even on the backstretch. Tech will have to take control on the final turn and be pulling away on the backstretch.

If Tech loses, things return to the "normal" balance. They won't make back-to-back claims; there's no next year. Maybe two or three years, possibly. But this year is what Leach has sought, what he has built in the dusty sands of West Texas and he has overcome everything to get to this point. He has built a monster, one the media really does not fully comprehend. The Big XII has been a great cauldron this season and it is Tech which will rise from the primordial soup.

 

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Arrrrggggggggggg, maties.

I may be editing on this some; my preview function in Firefox has been weird. Most of that is now done unless sharp eyes find more.

In the OU and Tech support, I don’t have to support OU to come out a winner. If they should win, fine, we’ll see how the BCS plays out. If Tech wins it all, we were that close, a second from that historical moment. And we still have 2009.

I waited late so Technophiles wouldn’t clutter up the mix too much.

The Real Game was a column I wrote for friends for a period. All I need is a logo with sharks circling a football to have the complete package. Couldn’t find the old one or the elements to make one.

by whills on Nov 22, 2008 6:35 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This is an interesting topic

 I think that Tech will never become a significant recruiting power. They have too much working against them. There’s Lubbock, there’s the facilities, which aren’t Texas quality, and there’s the fact that this is pretty much their only good year in the history of their program.

I think they’ll be able to pull WRs and QBs as long as Leach is there, but I’ll have to see it before I believe that they’ll ever win a recruiting battle against Texas or OU for a defensive player. Kansas State had a run of a few good years, but you didn’t see any top recruits flocking to Manhattan. So I don’t know much this game will benefit Tech’s recruiting.

 That’s not to say that recruiting won’t be affected by what happens in Norman tonight, however. Geoff Ketchum wrote something similar to this earlier today. Like you, he was of the opinion that this game has potential negative long-term ramifications for OU. He differed in that he believed that Texas, not Texas Tech, would be the prime beneficiary.

  Texas has a ton of recruiting momentum right now (see Mack Brown’s comments at the Muschamp press conference about hordes of 2010 recruits wanting to commit right now). From talking to junior recruits, Ketchum believes that Texas is going to clean up in-state in 2010, even more so than what they did in 2009. So Texas stands to whup OU in in-state recruiting (for arguably the fourth time in five years) and then beat them on the field in October, again for the fourth time in five years. In the Texas-OU rivalry, all the momentum appears to be on our side, and Mack made a huge move to press his advantage by locking up Muschamp. OU needs to win this game and then win the conference in order to get Texas’ boot off of its throat.

  That’s Ketchum’s opinion anyway.

by andy_wooster on Nov 22, 2008 6:53 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

One consideration in the recruiting wars

I would love to see OU lose, to reduce their recruiting presence in Texas. I’m not sure Tech will gain that much, but they can steal some recruits from OU. I think Tech’s AD didn’t extend Leach’s contract before this season. Is that correct? Seems like there was some grumbling on the pirate’s part.
The wild card is if Leach gets an opportunity, for bigger money, at a school where he can recruit. As much as he professes to love TT, it would be hard to pass up. He’s hot right now. Oh, and I’ve been to Lubbock. If you put MAck Brown and Pete Carroll there together, they still would have a hard time recruiting.

by Longhorn in Canada on Nov 22, 2008 6:53 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think a lot of what Leach does depends on tonight.

He’s built the great monster and he can gain legendary status if he wins tonight. But, if he doesn’t win, he could go somewhere else and do the same thing. Anything in Florida or California would be a killer. Then he just becomes just another West Texas story around the campfire.

by whills on Nov 22, 2008 7:06 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Tech will never sustain success

…and they will never recruit with Texas or OU.

a game weekend might be fun in lubbock, but there are the other 46 weeks out of the year – it’s no place to live.

by DrunkArmadillo on Nov 22, 2008 6:55 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sustaining is the real question. But getting there is the threshold right now.

I agree it would be hard to sustain but stranger things have happened. You wanna go to western Pennsylvania?

by whills on Nov 22, 2008 7:04 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Things working against them

History, resources (remember the postage fiasco?), prestige, facilities, stadium, location, weather.

They may make a blip here and there but I don’t think they can sustain it.

by Horncasting on Nov 22, 2008 7:14 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

To some extent

The same could be said about Florida before Spurrier.

It’s highly unlikely sure, but as Whills said, “stranger things have happened.” In the meantime, Leach has managed to soak up the margin for error in the Big 12.

proud to swim home

by learned hand on Nov 22, 2008 7:30 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Penn State is central PA

not west. And State College is much nice than Lubbock IMO. Finally, the biggest difference between PSU and Texas Tech is that PSU is the best gig in the state. You’d probably have more kids holding their noses and going to Tech if they didn’t have the option of going to a school like Texas.

by andy_wooster on Nov 22, 2008 11:21 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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The ladies have decided to go on a hunger strike until you take your comments back.

Perhaps the most recognizable mascot in sports, and certainly the toughest looking, Bevo is a fixture

by run Bevo run on Nov 22, 2008 11:30 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Virtually anywhere is nicer than Lubbock.

(Of course, I grew up with hills, so who am I to judge flat places.)

We were talking about Texas recruits and some portion might like an idyllic setting in the cold.

by whills on Nov 22, 2008 11:35 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

this is the real payoff of our run at #1

Regardless of whether we play for the title or not, this year’s unexpected heights brought Texas back to the national forefront in terms of attention and success. I pumped my fist every week we exceeded expectations, bringing more media stories centering on our resurgence and Colt McCoy’s heisman hopes. Each success banks a little more good will with recruits and the focus particularly on our explosive precision offense and will muschamp prepping an exciting defense suggests to potential players that Texas is a place they should want to be.

While Tech’s run should prove beneficial, it’s way too early to assume a natural continued upward swing in their program. Tech would be in an especially good position to cash in if Texas or Oklahoma were stuck in a down period. However, both are having excellent seasons, comparable seasons to Tech for that matter. Arguably, Tech’s success makes it even MORE important that Texas has had an outstanding year. Had we struggled to an 8-4 type year Tech would be in a far stronger position to alter the status quo.

by the chairman211 on Nov 22, 2008 7:39 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

With OU blowing out TT

it looks more and more like my worst fears are coming true. OU will be back in the MNC game, and take back the lead in the recruiting wars.
By the way, don’t blame Gideon. If the Texas offense had shown up in the TT game, it would have been no contest, just like tonight.

by Longhorn in Canada on Nov 22, 2008 8:52 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Even if Tech comes back some, they're dead.

Heh. My score should have been reversed. Like Tech game at Tech in ’07. OU will score 21 more at least, while Tech will get into the 30s.

They got to the big stage but couldn’t make the final steps.

by whills on Nov 22, 2008 9:14 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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