I think now the discussion becomes about OU and Longhorns. Again I am going to guess there are idiots who are going to vote for the “hotter” team. All I could see was that Tech to me seems like Mizzou….overated.

We on the other hand went to a very hostile environment and nearly won..the “nearly” doesnt matter as I would think based on the stupid voting that has been happening. Besides we also cannot forget that we played at a strech where as others had weeks off between crucial games..will that matter ..atleast I hope so.

Brad Edwards one of the un-biased guys thinks BCS we will still be @ 2…remains to be seen.

The other thing that irritates me is the style points…………It is basically per my perspective " insult the living crap of the other team"

A win should count more than style. That being said I am not looking forward to looking at the polls tomorrow.

Should all 3 teams win next week (hardly a given) they would all be 11-1 and 1-1 against each other. A win is a win and a loss is a loss and I agree that “style” points shouldn’t count. In reality, the fairest thing to do is simply draw lots and go from there.

The other awesome thing would be…we win out. Tech drops to Baylor and OU drops to OSU…wouldnt that be something….It doesnt matter what you do as long as you can do outstanding in Nov…seems to me that all the bleak headed voters remember only November….pathetic..

Pull off the upset. I have faith in you!

amen!!!

is to make the big 12 championship a rematch of the RRS. screw Mizzou and let’s see a rematch! Game of the Year pt 2!!!

got what you wanted. While I will suffer watching OU in Miami for the MNC game, at least I won’t have to watch it thinking I wanted this!
Yes, there is still a chance for us, if Okie lite or Mizzou can beat the land thieves, and if the Baptists or Mizzou can beat Tech. Anyone want to lay odds on this?
Moral of this story: Never never never pull for OU. It is an abomination. You will suffer in hell for your moral lapse.

should not be include the 3-way tie 1-loss discussion by the way they lost tonight. But anything can happen when it involves with human factors. So, we should say a prayer for Baylor. A miracle from deity. A huge upset in lubbock.

A lot still can happen. It’s the BCS for cryin out loud. Let’s not take it out on each other. All this talkin is moot if we can’t take care of business this Turkey-day.

I personally believe Mack will talk the voters into giving us the edge if it ends up being a 3-way tie.

Gobble gobble gobble!

but I see Texas beating A&M and OU beating OSU and Texas staying ahead of OU in the BCS rankings. I think a lot of the voters have “a thing” for Texas and Colt McCoy this year. I think we haven’t been punished like we might have in years past. Having said that, my biggest fear is not getting jumped by OU but is having to go to Kansas City and play outdoors in December and beat a good team twice with so much on the line. For what it’s worth.

There are too many teams with similar or identical records. Comparing other games played is too difficult and non-conclusinve. They only way we can tell who is the better team or deserving to move forward is to play and decide on the field who gets to go to the championship. Play on the field, winner moves on.

So OU and Texas should play a playoff game to decide who should go to the BIg 12 CG.

Oh wait. They already have. Winner moves on.

I have to protect myself. In other words, if I choose to send Texas to the MNC where they lose by 3 touchdowns and OU demolishes someone in a BCS game, I can at least fall back on the head to head win as my method of reasoning. If I choose to overlook the head to head win and send OU to the MNC where they lose by 3 touchdowns and Texas kills someone in a BCS game…what do I say to the screaming hoard of Texas fans then?

In place of current Tie Breaker 5, in case there are more than two tied teams and none of the previous tie breakers have decided a division champion, I propose to take the top two teams of all the tied teams as ranked in the BCS, and then use the head-to-head result between these two teams to decide.

Friends,

I am a BCS expert, and college football genius for that matter. Let me just say that Texas has had a great season. They have a great team but lost their chance for the BCS title by losing to Tech. OU owned that same team tonight and will pass Texas in the BCS standings as they should. Texas beat OU. However head to head means nothing in three way ties.

Now I will say Longhorn fans are not the brightest people in the world, so I’ll try to explain this so even you boys can understand it. OU had a much better schedule then Texas. Texas decided to put the cupcakes of the world on their schedule and now caught up to them. So when OU passes Texas tomorrow in the BCS, don’t start whining OK? You are just going to have to settle for playing in the Fiesta Bowl, and accept OU is winning the Big 12 South.

Look at top ranked teams each team has played

Texas: #11 Okie State, #12 Mizzou
OU: #15 TCU, #19 Cincy

I’d say Texas has the edge when it comes to strenth of schedule. In conference or OOC doesn’t matter, only quality of opponents.

In the end if OU goes to the CCG, we will have beaten both teams in the CCG. Makes sense to me that we shouldn’t be there; we’ve already played both of them and know who’s the best in the Big 12. The CCG is for second place in the Big 12.

Friends,

Here’s the deal. OU put TCU and Cincinnati on their schedule and those are ranked teams. Texas did not. They do not deserve to win the Big 12 South. Now stop whining, and be gentlemen and congratulate OU on a great win. We all know Texas fans are not very bright. The least you can do is to show some class for your Big 12 South Champion- and that is the OU Sooners.

Have a great night
Kevin Parnella
Noted College Football Expert

I believe the only way to settle this big debate is handicap the records. Remove the best win and the worst loss from each team and observe the body of work. Assuming there are no upsets at the end of the season, it would look like this:

Texas Ranked Wins: #1Okahoma, #11 Missouri, #6 Oklahoma State
Texas Ranked Loss: #7 Texas Tech
 VS.
OU Ranked Wins: # 2 Texas Tech, #12 Oklahoma State, #16 Kansas, #24 TCU;
OU Ranked Loss: -# 5 Texas-

I know the fans here aren’t going to want to hear logical reasoning, but here goes.

By the end of the season, if the three teams are still tied, OU should get the nod because yes, the did have a better strength of schedule.

The important game is not going to be UT’s loss the TT, but the UT’s slim victory at home versus OSU. If OU goes on the road and beats that same team, above any/all arguments you can stack up, then OU will get the approval over UT. That’s going to be THE key deciding point.

I, as a lifetime Sooner fan, will of course root for another demolition up in Stoolwater. And with it, a #2 or #3 ranking, and a trip to KC.

However, and it is very difficult for me to say this. If either OU loses, or doesn’t get the votes that they should have earned to be in the top 3, and Texas does go on to KC, I will root like mad for them to go on and beat the SEC. JUST like I did in the Rose Bowl. Only time I ever have rooted for the burnt orange, but I’ll root for my conference every day of the week. Boomer Sooner, and if need be….. said through tight lips Hook’em horns.

It’s pretty obvious to anyone with a brain that in a 3 way tie situation, OU is the Big 12 Champion. Saying otherwise frankly, makes you an idiot.

That you are the hotter team right now? That TCU + Cincy + nothing + nothing > Fla Atlantic, UTEP, Arky, and Rice? Please help me here, because other than that, what argument could you make? Just please, give me something legit.

Texas beat OU head to head. Florida lost at home to ole miss. Alabama is still undefeated. 1. Alabama 2.Texas 3. Florida 4. Oklahoma…. why because being undfeated means something (obviously). Wining head to head means something and loosing at home to a 7-4 team means something! Blowing out the fraudulent 2 team at home means something. I would be more likely to put Florida at 2 had the loss been on the road. Simple logic from the human voters would be nice! With that said we still have games to be played. Here is to hoping for a Baylor win and an OSU win! Or better yet a playoff so all of this BCS bull**** can be decided on the field! Hook EM!

In the 2nd half of UT vs OU we outscored big bad OU 25-7, dominated them to win 45-35? We were down 28-20 at half. It was a clear case of overmatched over 4 quarters – and OU’s big, bad O-line getting waxed by Orakpo, Lamarr Houston, Roy Miller, et al? Ou was up by 21 fast tonight. But when OU got hit back in the mouth repeatedly by a resilient team, they got beat. Our down game this year was an awful 1st half at Tech, which we STILL overcame to take the lead at the end – you know the rest – IF we had killed more time on 4 downs to the TD but Vondrell got it on 2nd – IF Gideon just rolled that ball on his chest and fell and IF they just held Crabtree up and tackled him on the two …

It’s been fun discussing with you guys.

No matter how it turns out, I wish you well. If Texas hangs on to go on to KC, I’ll root for them in Miami. I hope you’ll do the same for OU if we’re the fortunate ones.

Then UT shouldn’t have allowed Tech to drive on them at the end of the game and score the winning touchdown.

Not terribly resilient in that one, were you?

Personally, I think you guys should be in the Big 12 Title Game. You beat OU by 10 on a neutral field, although you can technically say you guys played on the road as you were the road team that game. You lost to Tech on a fluke play and pummeled Missouri. I think you guys are way too worried about OU jumping you. I, honestly, don’t see it happening. I think the head to head will be more significant than anything else.

I think the best way to break the three way tie is to do like a score difference like they do in soccer. Baiscally, you add up the number of points you scored versus the two tied teams and subtract them from the points you gave up versus the two tied teams. So in your case your score difference would be 4 [(45+33)-(35+39)]. OU’s would be 34 ((35+65)-(45+21)). Tech’s would 38 [(39+21)(65+33)]. Or you could do an overall season score difference add up the points scored versus the points allowed. I know you guys wouldn’t win the Big 12 South title, in either instance, but that is a fairer way to break the tie breaker. It might encourage more running up the score, but at least there is some sense to it.

      I can’t believe that you stupid longhorns are even reading this uninformed one-sided article. First of all, when OU lost to UT by 10 – OU had been controlling the whole game until the 4th quarter —-it wasn’t a dominating performance to say the least. When UT actually started moving the ball against OU was when a backup (Crowe) took over for an injured senior captain Reynolds at linebacker (it was this backup’s first minutes to record as a player)! Without that loss, OU’s defense would’ve continued to bend but not break.

     Second of all, don’t even consider Arkansas an SEC team (or at least a good one who barely beat Div. II LA Monroe by a point) and don’t even try to say that UT has had a tougher schedule!! After OU’s game this coming Saturday against OSU – OU will have beaten 4 top-ten teams (Cincinatti, TCU, TTU, & OSU) while UT would have only beat 3 top-ten teams. It does not matter that UT beat Kansas when they were ranked as they were so highly overrated that it hurts to even think about!

       Third of all, every UT fan is scared shi*-less for good reason!! OU will jump you guys in the polls either today or next Sunday and will kill Mizzou in the Big 12 Championship game (putting OU’s win total to 5 over top-10 teams)!! The rest is history…

       Oh Yea – good luck trying to suck McCoy’s cock enough to win him the heisman – it’s going to the QB of the team that makes it to the Big 12 Championship Game!!!

Early CPU result has Texas moving up two spots.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbt08.htm

Now that Baylor sneaking up and beating a flat Tech team now seems at least plausible…

(1) Texas beats A&M, in ho-hum fashion
(2) Baylor upsets Tech
(3) OU routs OSU
(4) Texas beats Mizzou, again in ho-hum fashion

Is it possible Texas wins the Big XII but OU goes to Miami?

Shoot me now.

Every forum has a few bad apples and this one is no exception. TXSTAMPEDE talks about how bad the Sooner fans are yet his conduct is horrrible! These are all excellent football teams and even the best of them have a bad day. Texas had one against Tech and OU did against UT. I believe even Florida and USC can tell you that. The question is who the better team is right now. That is very hard to pick between OU and UT. Yes, UT beat OU earlier this year but OU is playing at a level way above where they were then. UT is playing very well also. Yes, UT would win if it is a two way tie but if it is a three way tie, head to head goes out the door as it should. Remember… Tech beat UT. Yes, it was on a last second play but every win is a win and Tech shouldn’t been in a position to beat UT but they were because UT was outplayed in that game. Ok, ok, now you say that UT was at the end of a long strech of very hard games and that they still almost wn. Almost winning doesn’t count….ever! TXSTSTAMPEDE also made this comment to an OU fan “but a football game is 60 minutes. OU did not finish – Texas did. End of discussion. Period.”
He is absolutely right, 60 minutes and not one second shorter! Texas did not finish against Tech or this discussion wouldn’t matter. Start rooting for your team more and quit bad mouthing these other great teams or their fans! Being obnoxiuos does not impact the polls at all and it is not what any of these schools represent or want!

One of the guys on ESPN last night was saying that it is possible to have 3 teams in the BCS. It didn’t sound correct to me, but I wanted to be sure.

He more or less said if OU loses to Mizz, Mizzou gets the Fiesta for winning the Big 12. Then, it’d be possible that UT could be pulled up to the National Title game. But neither of those count as an at large bid, so OU/TTech could still grab an at large.

Is that true? I’m leaning towards ‘No.’

I apologize. I picked on one person the last post and did not mention the horrible things said by OU-Sooner Man but they were so bad they shouldn’t been allowed to post. I don’t believe in censorship but I do believe in decorum. Be a little classier!

…to this party. Agree completely and was thinking along same lines as BZ although he seems to have put the argument together in a particularly cogent fashion..

There really is no objective case for OU to be ahead of us, although a blowout of OSU next week might allow for that.

FWIW, and as implausible as it is (Bama loose to Auburn and beat Florida) I’m positively giddy over the prospect of playing OU in Miami. We are less talented on offense and are"a year away". We’ve already beaten them and last night notwithstanding Big Game Bob is not back (thrashing an overawed Tech at home isn’t the same thing), the pressure on them would be enormous and the upside for us would be much greater than the downside.

Read it and weep, Longhorns……

http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/poll?poll=Coaches

Also got 4 #1 votes. And none for Texas.