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Same Ol' Tech

As I sit here continuing to watch this terrible display of football put on by Tech, I sit here both smugly satisfied for telling all my friends that while Tech had a chance to win, it was a very small one, and very frustrated because I know we are better than Tech and we're just as good or better than Oklahoma. 

I was actually very surprised some people predicted a Tech blowout.  I knew there were four possibilities, and four only, of the outcome of this game:  A close Tech win (if OU came out flat), a close Oklahoma win (again if OU came out flat), a comfortable Oklahoma win (if OU came out steady), or an Oklahoma blowout (if OU came out on fire or if Tech came out flat, or both).  Tech had zero chance for a blowout.  None.  Here's why I knew.

Look, before Tech fans get on me for being classless, I know Tech has a good team.  They do.  Arguably the best they've ever had under Leach.  But this is how I knew they weren't that good and not in the class of the elite teams:  They didn't blow us out.  We played by far our worst game of the season, coming out absolutely brain-dead and utterly flat.  We were at the end of a brutal streak, playing our fourth straight game against a top 11 opponent and our 8th straight overall, and we didn't have Chykie Brown, Cosby got injured and was out the whole game, and Orakpo was for the second half.  Yet we got down "only" 19-0 and we crawled back into the game.  Tech showed their weaknesses on defense in that second half and the Horns came back and nearly won the game but dropped an easy interception.  I believe I either stated here or elsewhere that if we played like THAT against an elite team like Florida or Oklahoma, we would have been obliterated with no chance for a comeback.  That's what great teams do at home; they punish teams that come out flat in their place, even if their opponent is a quality team.  We did that against Missouri.  Florida did that to LSU.  And now Oklahoma is doing that to Tech.

Tech is once again showing their true, Mike Leach colors.  Look, I like the guy.  He's done a very respectable job with Tech.  However, the fact is that he still has yet to prove that he can win do-or-die games on the road and have a consistent defense that can carry him through when his offense sputters.  I said to my Texas friends that the #1 reason I was afraid of the Tech game was because it was in Lubbock, and I deathly afraid that we'd come out flat and dig ourselves in a hole.  We did exactly what I feared.  If it was in Austin or on a neutral field, I would have been very confident we'd win.  In fact, at a neutral site, if we played ten times, we'd probably split Oklahoma 5-5 but we'd beat Tech 9 times.  No doubt.

Here's a rested Oklahoma team now, and Tech is playing on the road.  OU did the smart thing, which was to run at Tech.  Murray humiliated this "improved" Tech defense in the first half, the same Demarco Murray the Horns completely shut down.  I'm not surprised by this game at all.  I knew Tech could not stop OU.  The question was if OU could stop Tech, and they have.

This is the same ol' Tech.  Atrocious defense with poor tackling.  Average athletes on defense.  A choke job on the road.  An inability to find other ways to win games when your passing game isn't clicking, which it will not always.

I hate Oklahoma.  But I respect them as equals, and thus, I would be more okay with them in the MNC because I know they are one of the elite teams in the country.  I don't hate Tech as much but I don't respect them as much.  I did not want them to make it the national title game.  I suspected they had little chance to win in Norman.  I didn't expect such a ridiculous score, but my suspicions were nonetheless correct.

I know this will sound insulting to Tech fans, but it will always be like this with Leach.  Leach will field competitive teams.  Leach will win big games, especially at home.  It is very, very doubtful he will ever take Tech passed the big boys to the top.  Leach has never beaten OU and Texas in the same season, a very telling stat.

Congrats to OU.  They are indeed one of the best teams in the country, and I would love to meet them again in the national title game if possible.  I still don't think they should leap us in the polls if people take every team's entire resume into account, but I expect it now.  It sucks that we lost such a golden opportunity to control our own destiny, but that's the way things go.

Texas Tech, you had a great run.  I'm not trying to just rain down on your party.  But I had to shake my head at the delusions of grandeur many Tech fans were having.  Even if Tech pulled this one out (which I knew was unlikely), won the Big 12 over Mizzou, and went to the MNC, I'd put big money on the SEC champ they were going to face.

It's not over for Tech.  They can still win the Big 12 if Oklahoma falters in Stillwater, which is possible.  However, it is now almost impossible they'll make the national title game.  USC or Penn State is going ahead of them.

I was waiting for the bubble to burst.  I did not think it'd be so cruelly violent, but Stoops is clearly sending a message.  Unfortunately, the Horns may not be allowed to answer the challenge.

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Gideons drop will haunt you guys for a long time.

I agree one hundred percent with your assessment. The thing about the UT vs. Tech game was that Tech probably played the best half of football that they have ever played under Mike Leach and were still lucky to win the game. They played their best half ever and yet were only up 22-6. They couldn’t have played any better and Texas couldn’t have played any worse and yet you knew that Texas was going to come back. Lets face it your running game has been average this year and yet you were able to shred Tech in the second just because you had the bigger and faster players. Once the adrenalin wore off for Tech, they became what we all knew was and always has been the Tech D, a shitty one. Even if you guys go on and win the Big 12 Championship game, and the National Title I think you guys will still think about Gideon’s drop because there is nothing like a perfect season in college football. Your team will forever be immortalized as one of the best. Where if you are a one loss national championship team you were just a great team not an all time team. There is nothing like having a 0 on the right in the Won Loss Column.

After watching tonight’s debacle, I’m pretty sure you guys and football team is killing themselves for not showing up in the first half against Tech. This was the Tech defense we all thought they were.

As soon as OU went up by 14 you knew that there was no way that Tech could stop them. They just had inferior athletes. What was so obvious was the talent differential on the field tonight. Crabtree and Harrell were the only two guys on the entire Tech squad that you could say could start for OU. Nobody else on that Tech team would start for OU. Same thing for you guys, except Crabtree and Harrell nobody would start for you. That is what stood for me in this game. Just how superior of a team OU was. They could have played this game 10 times and the same score probably would have happened.

Thank God I want have to read and hear about the freak show that is Tech football. Who the hell is that freak lineman that paints his face and his lips.

by PrimeTime2012 on Nov 23, 2008 2:51 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

I don't entirely agree with this part

“They could have played this game 10 times and the same score probably would have happened.”

Tech is not THAT much worse than OU, but OU came out hot and Tech came out a little flat, and so Tech got whitewashed. If they played ten times, the score wouldn’t be like that again, but OU would still win 9 of them.

by TheElusiveShadow on Nov 23, 2008 11:09 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Tech's offense would have scored more.

You are right as Tech’s offense would have scored a lot more, but defensively OU would always put up 50 plus. It wasn’t anything schematically that Tech could have done to stop OU. OU’s line and player’s were just bigger, faster, and better than Tech’s defensive players.

by PrimeTime2012 on Nov 23, 2008 2:42 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with the premise...

..but I think that it was written after the loss and not before means something…

by pleaseplaykindle on Nov 23, 2008 3:31 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

You're right, I didn't write a post like this here

And I can’t just appeal to my personal conversations with people I know, since nobody here knows about them. However, if you look at the tone of my posts, such as after our Tech game, or in my responses to somebody like whills who called a Tech victory in the many BCS conversations here, you can see my opinion on this matter. If Tech was going to win, it was going to be close one. Otherwise, this game was Oklahoma’s.

by TheElusiveShadow on Nov 23, 2008 10:51 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Truthfully, shadow, I couldn't root for either team period.

So, I really pointed up what was at stakes for Tech; they did have the world to gain and blew it. And, of course, OU was defending its share of the recruiting treasure; it had everything to defend – and did. Major, major fail for Leach and his team; they both screwed up in this respect. (Sometimes the coaches get it wrong but the team gets it right in the end and vice versa; not this time, though.)

The key for the game was the fourth down play when the game was 14-0. You take the points and play field position. Tech went for the big play and when OU scored in the ensuing drive, Tech couldn’t stop the hemorrhaging. You can not play OU like that; you have to respond and get something.

This was a major tactical blunder on Leach’s part – and one he continued to make. I’m sure pro teams were cringing, for the moves showed weakness, not strength.

I don’t think the 10-game split would be 9-1. OU played extremely well; Tech played as poorly as they have all year. I don’t think that would be sustained. OU is not overwhelmingly superior; their intimidation game suckered Leach into making stupid decisions. Next time – and the times after – I doubt that would happen.

The athleticism of the teams are not as disparate as primetime thinks; he’s just gloating in the aftermath. His ego is swollen and his words reflect that. He’s hardly seeing things for what they are; he’s deep in the narcissistic impulse to equate winning with vast superiority (ah, one of the banes of the world, no less).

by whills on Nov 23, 2008 1:58 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

The wrong assumption from above

is that the hemoragging was stoppable. The result absolutely justified going for six, there. What good would 3 points have done? 65-24?

Go register. Or else.

by Skin Patrol on Nov 23, 2008 2:57 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I also happen to think

that OU is vastly more athletic.

Go register. Or else.

by Skin Patrol on Nov 23, 2008 2:58 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

At 14-0 there was no hemorhagging and the dire need was to respond to OU.

I talking first quarter and grabbing a little MO.

When OU scored to make it 21-0, then the game starting flying out of control.

You stop an avalanche at the beginning, not at the end.

by whills on Nov 23, 2008 3:26 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree that the fourth down call was stupid

But I do understand Leach’s desperation. They were clearly not going to stop Oklahoma on a consistent basis. Nonetheless, he should have gone for the points then. Getting your first points on the board is a big booster for your team, and his characteristic unconventional ways backfired there.

I agree that as far as the top players on each team, the athleticism isn’t super disparate. However, from top to bottom, Oklahoma does have superior athletes. It showed particularly on defense. While I don’t think OU has an elite defense, they do have good athletes there. I can’t say that for Tech, which was shown when Murray embarrassed them on many of his runs.

I certainly didn’t want Tech to get blown out; if it was my way, OU would have won 6-0 on a fumbled punt in the endzone for a TD (and missed PAT). So I didn’t take particular joy watching the Sooners run up the score (and they did). However, it wasn’t that surprising either.

by TheElusiveShadow on Nov 23, 2008 3:07 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Leach's decision set up OU for the KO.
But I do understand Leach’s desperation.

If Leach was desperate that early in the game, then they should fire the sonofabitch right now. Just because they hadn’t stopped OU didn’t mean they couldn’t; a HC has to presume they not only can but be finding a way to do so. But you can’t have gambles where you risk the whole game and that’s the point, if you believe the game was in jeopardy at that point.

Dr. Saturday put the KO at 11:13 in the second quarter. I agree. Leach played into Stoop’s hands and fucked up royally. He did not give his team the best chance. Never give a sucker an even break and Leach did.

I agree that OU (and Texas) have greater depth and overall better athletes. But my point was that what Tech could put on the field was not bad. Take away Crabtree and Tech’s athleticism drops a notch, of course.

The other part of the loss was that Tech stopped OSU’s running, and particularly Houston, and much of Texas’ running in the first half. They never came close against OU; this was the big defensive failure. Texas held OU to 48 yards on 26 carries; that’s the real difference.

 

by whills on Nov 23, 2008 3:42 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I understand it

But like I said, I definitely don’t agree with it. When it became fourth down, I said to my friends around me, “I bet he goes for it, even though he should definitely kick this.” Even though it was only 14-0, it was a bad 14-0. The Sooners marched down with virtually zero resistance from the Tech defense. Leach therefore got scared. It was a big mistake, and like you said, it set them up for the KO punch.

by TheElusiveShadow on Nov 23, 2008 5:58 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yep

Sometimes with Leach you have to live with the reality that he goes by the “Sometimes you eat bear, sometimes the bear eats you” philosophy. I can’t tell you how many times both sides of that coin have played out. It’s gratifying and maddening all at the same time. But in huge games with everything – and I mean everything – on the line, sometimes wisdom is the better part of valor.

Would we have won had we kicked a FG there? Who knows. Football is a goofy sport and momentum often swings with one play; but I think OU still walks away with that one even with the 3 pts.

by Tech92 on Nov 23, 2008 7:02 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Basically, you got to get on the board

and give you team and your fans some cause to gain confidence.

The alternative is to feed the opposition more mojo.

The rule is: Never, ever gamble when you can’t afford to lose.

The point of coaching, the mantra for all coaches, is to put your team in position to have a chance to win. That’s it; that’s Leach’s mission. And he blew it.

My PhD friend from Tech, like you, was afraid that Tech would revert to its losing state of mind, as it always had at Norman. Her misgivings were totally justified.

by whills on Nov 23, 2008 8:19 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

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