Morning Coffee Thinks It's Time To Beat the Aggies
Riddle me this. Since the great writers here at BON have already laid out the case for Texas, analyzed the BCS, broken down the head-to-head debate, and refuted the arguments of rivals, there isn't much room left for analysis. But I do have one significant question. The Harris poll voters have both SEC teams, Alabama and Florida, ahead of Texas and Oklahoma. How does that happen? Alabama is fine at the top, that's to be expected. But Florida in front of Texas? The team that lost to Ole Miss at home? Against a team that lost on the road on the last play in the biggest game in the opposing program's history?
Florida's defining victory was their smashing of Georgia, but the best team the Bulldogs have beat is the increasingly pathetic LSU. Sure, Florida beat two teams that were in the top 10, but neither of those teams looks particularly worthy of those rankings now. Texas owns victories over three teams that are legitimately in the top 12 in the country. If voters are punishing Texas for the more recent loss, they should consider that it came after the toughest four-game stretch any team has played in college football for 60 years. I don't get it.

This is all a little ridiculous. Not just Florida being ranked in front of the Longhorns, which is certainly a debatable question. The whole system. Dan Wetzel's characterizes the absurdity of the voting system in the following way:
Should Texas get the nod because it beat Oklahoma? Should it be Oklahoma because it put together the most impressive performance of the season in blasting Tech 65-21? Should Tech be considered because a voter likes its coach? How about strength of schedule? Or margin of victory? Coolest mascot? Color scheme? Does it matter who's played the most recent TV game? What if a voter missed one team's impressive performance because he went fishing? A voter's alma mater has been known to come into play. And doesn't he owe the conference that got him a vote in the first place? What about the coach who's still bitter about losing a recruit to a certain school?
Wetzel's repeated rhetorical questions highlight a principle problem that writers and bloggers across the country are racing to address: What is the criteria for the polls? This isn't exaclty a new question, but having three of the six or seven best teams in the same country in the same conference division, that competely personal and nebulous set of criterion exposes the flaw in the current system. Then each team ends up with one loss, chaos results, and multiple teams get screwed. Think about it: UT, OU, and Tech are all deserving of BCS bids. But the current system could leave two on the outside looking in, while mediocre squads like Cincinnati and whatever team emerges from the mess that is the ACC, conferences that don't deserve bids this season.
As Wetzel goes on to note, the system also results in members of the Texas sports information department propagandizing sportswriters on Saturday before even Tech knew what had just happened. Didn't work, apparently, but it increasingly politicizes the game of college football. It's only a matter of time with this system before Sports Information departments around the country morph into sophisticated purveyors of propaganda. How long is it until sportswriters look up from their desks to see a beaming Matthew McConaughey asking them to do the right thing? Don't mess with Roger Clemens, he might have some leftover, uh, rage, you know. If the BCS is worth millions of dollars, the Joneses (yeah, I'm talking about Texas) can afford to employ professional lobbyists on their behalf, afford the relentless advertising, research advanced brainwashing mechanisms. Hell, what about out-and-out bribery. That's all about as unsavory as pretty much everything Scott Boras does. Gotta be time for a playoff.
Mack Brown's take on the BCS. Perhaps the most famous lobbyist in the history of college football, Mack Brown will decline to make the BCS case for the Longhorns until after the Aggie game. He spoke with the team about it on Sunday, before he and the team made the decision not to talk about it, telling the players that they have more impact on where they play at the end of the season than anyone else. Brown is correct in his assessment, especially considering the flat performances against A&M the last two seasons. If ever there is a time for "style points," it's Thanksgiving day against the Aggies.
As much emotion as may be present in the game coming from the maroon side of the field, this Longhorns team has shown all season that they play hard every week. It started after the loss in College Station last season and now the team has the chance to bring that edge full circle and unleash all that frustration on the poor Aggies. There will not be a flat performance on Thursday--the seniors and the junior leaders on the team like Colt McCoy will not allow that to happen. Will Muschamp will not allow that to happen. And Mack Brown, despite his Mr. Clappy side, will not allow that to happen. As if they need any more motivation after two straight losses, one former Aggie is providing some serious bulletin board material...
Martellus Bennett has diarrhea of the mouth. Martellus Bennett is running his mouth about the Longhorns, callilng Texas "yellowbellies" and noting that the Aggies "always beat Texas." Let's go to the all-time scoreboard, Martellus. Okay, let's see here. Oh yeah, Texas 73, TAMU 36, with 5 ties. That's the big-boy scoreboard (unless you want to talk about national championships, where Texas leads 4-1). So no, the Aggies don't always beat Texas. In fact, for the mathematically challenged (and Aggies), that means that Texas wins about twice for each Aggie victory. Even with victories in the last two meetings between the teams (as if Texas fans need a reminder), the Aggies would need to beat the Longhorns 37 years in a row to tie the series--it couldn't happen until 2044. Since Martellus no doubt couldn't shut his mouth long enough to learn anything in history class, let's take a step back in time: 2003, Texas wins 46-15, 2002, Texas wins 50-20, and 2000, 43-17. Bennett went on to predict an Aggie victory and some more hits on Colt McCoy (or Cart McCoy, quite poor taste there Martellus) by his brother, Michael. Considering that Michael Bennett only has two sacks on the season, that doesn't seem likely.
That massive vortex of suck? That would be the Aggie football program. Don't stand too close because you could get sucked in. There are few things more frustrating in life than Aggies who can call scoreboard. Even worse when they manage to lose to Arkansas State and get blown out by Baylor. How bad was the blowout to Baylor? The Bears lead 41-7 going into the fourth quarter, having allowed the Aggies 233 yards, while forcing five turnovers (including four picks by freshman quarterback Jerrod Johnson) and giving up third down conversions on only 2 of 9 attempts. And no one is likely to confuse Baylor's defense (94th in total defense and 110th in opponent's third down conversions, at 47.5%) with a good defense.
After a good start to the season, with 18 touchdowns to only four interceptions, Jerrod Johnson has struggled in the last two games, throwing six interceptions against two touchdown passes. The offensive line isn't helping things. They weren't any good to being with and injuries have further slowed the unit, resulting in 33 sacks on the season, three per game. On the other side of the ball, the Aggie defense has sacked opposing quarterbacks only 13 times. The inability to pressure the quarterback has lead to 36.4 points allowed per game, which ranks 113th in the country, right behind lowly Iowa State and 114th in total defense, giving up 455 yards per game. Even when they do manage to stop the opposing team on the first two downs, they allow opponents to convert on 52% of their third downs, edging only lowly SMU in that category. You have that going for you Aggies. In other words, the window for Aggies having scoreboard bragging rights is rapidly closing. Time for a beat down. No more scoreboard. The proper alignment for the universe.
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I think we could fix some of the problems
with coaches voting if we simply demanded transparency if people want to participate. We should not let coaches hide behind anonymity, especially where at least one of those anonymous votes (ie: end of the regular season) could very well decide who is going to the Big-12 Championship, which might have an impact on who is, or is not, going to the National Championship.
by Skin Patrol on
Nov 25, 2008 7:39 AM CST
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Completely Agree
Too much chance for playing around with the placement right now. Someone on another board created a model that showed how high Mack could put Texas and how low he could put OU and essentially push Texas over OU in total in the coaches poll (everything else being equal).
There are going to be coaches out there that look at Texas/Tech/OU in their own objective (ie no agenda) way and have OU in front of Texas. I don’t agree, but I can live with that if they feel they are doing it in a fair manner. But the possibility for a few voters to try to manipulate the entire poll by putting Texas significantly behind OU is what makes this anonymity so shady.
BTW – I’m just using Texas and OU as examples here. Don’t take the absence of Tech from my discussion as a slight.
by Horncasting on
Nov 25, 2008 10:31 AM CST
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Bennett...
Oh man would I love to see Colt call his own number…and run right over Bennett… Nothing would make me happier
by mccoy12 on
Nov 25, 2008 7:43 AM CST
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Nothing Confusing About It
People, nationally, have a lot more love for Florida than they should. Until we get rid of this flawed system, we will continue to have puzzling selections like for the top teams in the nation. Based purely on facts, and not on “Well if they played…”, Texas AND Oklahoma both severely trump Florida. It’s disgusting, and we have to live with.
Anyone else think Florida will be exposed by the ’Noles?
by Texas Shiv on
Nov 25, 2008 7:43 AM CST
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Even if Florida is overrated
It’s doubtful FSU is good enough to expose that.
by TheElusiveShadow on
Nov 25, 2008 7:48 AM CST
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Florida gets too much love and is certainly overrated this season
I know I’m jumping into the Longhorn fray (as a Sooner) but I thought I would enter the BCS debate.
I have to sympathize with OU and UT concerning Florida. How can Florida magically pass TX in one weekend in the Harris and Coaches’ Poll?
USC is also making a case for itself based on fan love. I think what we have here is several factors besides strength of schedule (as figured by BCS math) that Coaches take into account such as the history of the school and the amount of press that school gets. Hell, last year OK was touted by the press as having a storied program and was going to smash WVU. That was a hard lesson!
Does anyone out there have a longstanding dislike of USC and Florida?
by Boomer S on
Nov 25, 2008 8:03 AM CST
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I suspect Reggie Bush's Heisman Trophy
still embitters a lot of Texas fans towards USC. That and the ridiculous amount of love foisted on that team before the national championship game, in particular all the discussions about where it ranked all-time.
I don’t have anything against Florida really besides Urban Meyer’s ridiculous claim that Tim Tebow is better than Vince Young.
Oh yeah, and I don’t see any problems with a Sooner jumping into this debate, so feel free.
by GhostofBigRoy on
Nov 25, 2008 1:01 PM CST
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When USC first became media darlings
2002 or 2003, can’t remember which, they got one of the BCS at-large spots that should have gone to us. We had the same record, a better overall resume and had beaten a team that beat them that year. And yet is was like the Bush heisman thing – nobody really looked beyond the team the media was pumping up.
by Horncasting on
Nov 25, 2008 1:17 PM CST
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Don't think so
In 2002, USC finished #4 and thus qualified for an automatic at-large berth. We finished 10-2, with a late loss at Tech. Iowa grabbed the other at-large at #5 and 11-1.
In 2003, we could not go to the BCS because the two Big XII berths went automatically to KSU (Conference winner) and OU (Top 2).
by kjm017 on
Nov 25, 2008 2:07 PM CST
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In my hatred-for-OU moments
I still think that OU lost on purpose to screw us out of a BCS berth. They still made it to the MNC. Gah. I’m glad they lost to LSU.
by TheElusiveShadow on
Nov 25, 2008 2:18 PM CST
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They played like total dog$% that game. One of the most boring BCS MNC games
(and that’s saying something because it wasn’t even a blowout). But, that game was so ugly that LSU couldn’t pass USC in the AP Poll (only split title in BCS era).
by the1austin on
Nov 25, 2008 3:00 PM CST
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2002
We lost to OU and Tech, and beat K-State. USC lost to K-State and Washington State. We deserved that at-large bid as much, if not moreso than USC. They were #4 because they became media darlings, were the “hot team” and got the human vote.
by Horncasting on
Nov 25, 2008 4:04 PM CST
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A Close Game, but not a win
I know I said the possibility of being exposed(if they’re beat)
But if it’s a close game, does it go ahead and strip away at least SOME of the votes for UF, and place them towards Texas’ cause?
I think you know the whole system is flawed and a farce when you see that Florida received a 1st place votes, are you kidding me?
by Texas Shiv on
Nov 25, 2008 8:13 AM CST
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Could go both ways
Problem with assuming that votes get stripped away from Florida is that they could go to OU.
by Horncasting on
Nov 25, 2008 10:34 AM CST
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you guys are morons
you are ranked #2.
it’s all in your hands. Just beat A&M and you’ll be fine.
by Jackass04 on
Nov 26, 2008 8:10 AM CST
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Did anyone else notice that Mizzou was ranked ahead of OkSU, even though 1) they both have 2 losses, 2) one of each of their losses came @ UT, and OkSU was close, Mizzou wasn’t, and 3) OH yeah, OkSU beat them AT Mizzou’s field? The whole system is worthless. It’s a beauty contest. That’s why UF was ranked SEVERAL spots ahead of Michigan last year after the bowl games, even though UM beat UF in the bowl and had the same record.
I have to disagree about the ACC being so bad this year. I actually think they’re pretty good. Their best might not beat the Big 12, SEC or Big 10’s best, but if you lined up 1 through 12 from each division and had them play, I think they’d win 8 games.
I think everyone is in for a surpise during the “ACC vs SEC” week coming up. I’m sure everyone expects the MIGHTY Ess Eee See to crush the pathetic ACC, but I think the ACC definitely goes 2-2, and probably goes 3-1.
Wake vs Vandy (ACC)
Ga Tech vs Ga (ACC – how bad have the dawgs looked?..man..)
FSU vs UF (SEC)
Clemson vs USC-lite (it’s AT clemson, so I think they have a chance)
I think the Big 12 is very deep this year. I wish the OkSU and Ga rematch was this year instead of next, because I’m positive OkSU won at home this year. So I think if you lined our 12 up against the ACC’s, we’d post the most wins. I’m not sure any other conference would this year though.
On a seperate note, how cool would it be to have a “BCS Conf A vs BCS Conf B” week for the first 3 to 4 weeks of the season? Have 2 BCS conferences square off. Require at least 5 teams from each conference to play. That would make some money and make it easier to sort out the best teams (you’d also need to eliminate scheduling of Div 1AA schools).
by UT_BKC on
Nov 25, 2008 8:30 AM CST
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pissed off
FUCK Martellus Bennett…i hope he never scores another TD w the cowboys (jk) but FUCK him…and the faggies.
Hook 'Em
by afhook08 on
Nov 25, 2008 9:09 AM CST
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FUCK Martellus Bennett
Be respectful they are Flaggies, not Faggies
by seafous on
Nov 25, 2008 9:50 AM CST
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Bad idea jeans.....
To be honest, I wasn’t that fired up about the A&M game until now. Martellus Bennett just did me a huge favor. I hope Mack Daddy drops 70 on the mother f*ckers. BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!
Just let your souuuuuul glo, baby....feeling oh so silky smooth...
by TNHorn on
Nov 25, 2008 10:05 AM CST
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I am shocked and appalled...
…that the ad server which is supplying the ad for this very page, as I type it, thinks that we all want luggage that would allow all of us to pack with “GO AGGIES” style.
I can think of all sorts of way I’d rather pack.
by kjm017 on
Nov 25, 2008 10:06 AM CST
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Right there with ya.
Besides, we all know what form Aggie luggage takes.

by crackaTX on
Nov 25, 2008 10:48 AM CST
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The 45-35 Campaign
The “45-35 Campaign” and the collective power of OB! Reply
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Since the 45-35 Campaign took off Sunday we’ve:
- Organized a massive “45-35” grass roots flyer handout for the game
- Recieved support/sponsorship from the Daily Texan and KVET for the “45-35” flyer campaign… KVET will print 10,000 “45-35” orange and white signs, the Daily Texan will re-print full page inserts from the day after the RRR for fans to take to the game
- Our Kick around the country OB member will do a special salute to the “45-35” cause
- A number of “45-35” shirt orders have been placed through various t-shirt companies to show support
- A facebook group has been started, “Texas beat OU 45-35, lest we forget”
- The official “45-35” website has been launched @ www.45-35.com
- A “hypothetical” field run has been coordinated and financially supported for both the Texas/Texas A&M game and the Bedlam game
- $3500 has been raised so far for a banner plane that will circle college gameday in stillwater with a sign that supports our cause (still to be determined)
- Left over money from the banner plane fund will be donated to charities like Orange Santa and possibly the Jimmy V foundation
Congratulations to everyone who has contributed money, time, and effort to the “45-35 campaign” thus far for all of their hard work, let’s keep it up all the way through Saturday evening!
Make sure you guys post any details I missed
by Dawnpatrol on
Nov 25, 2008 11:09 AM CST
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The Kick Around the Country angle is priceless
Can’t wait to see what that guy does.
by Horncasting on
Nov 25, 2008 11:20 AM CST
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what about the banner
that is going to be priceless if they fly that thing around gameday in stillwater…
by Dawnpatrol on
Nov 25, 2008 11:23 AM CST
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Polls
May I point out that basketball does not have this problem? And it is not because of the tourney, but because of the use of a selection committee. If you want sound selections for your at-large bids, pairings, and championship game, what better method is there than having it decided by a group of impartial, well informed experts? Give them the computer data, game film, and poll results and let them sort through it all. You may not get results everyone likes, but it will surely be better than an occult combination of an inconsistent set of computer rankings and the esteemed opinions of coaches and sportswriters.
Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. If they get mad, you're a mile away AND you have their shoes.
by Caradoc on
Nov 25, 2008 11:40 AM CST
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What color is an aggie after an enema?
Clear.
May Colt be with you. Yeah, that's right.
by bfaut86 on
Nov 25, 2008 3:00 PM CST
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pretty lame joke.
of course, you are a tu fan, maybe a student. Either way, both are idiots.
by Jackass04 on
Nov 26, 2008 8:08 AM CST
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Florida's loss at home to Ole Miss
i know yall probably dont agree with me but ole miss is not exactly the laughing stock of the sec any more. we did beat florida at home, and we could easiley be undefeated or at the worst 9-2. i mean we lost on a last second feild goal to wake after a bogus pass interference call to lose by 2, against vandy we lost by six after turning over the ball 6 times including 2 fumbles inside the red zone. we blew a double digit lead to south carolina to lose by 7. and we lost by 4 to alabama and we had the ball last and we were drivivng very well until snead threw a pick. so we are not a joke, and i would apprciate everyone (not reffering to everyone in this blog, more like everyone in college football who is not an ole miss fan) referring to that as a terrible loss for florida. didnt anyone see us beat lsu 31-13 this weekend.
Heres to the nastiest defense in college football 2008-2009
by Olemissreb451 on
Nov 25, 2008 1:49 PM CST
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Fair
I agree with you that Ole Miss is not the laughing stock of the SEC anymore. However, you might be going a little overboard by saying you “could easily be undefeated.” 4 losses by bogus calls, blown leads, and turnovers by the hands of cosmic forces aren’t exactly unique arguments. I’m sure there are other 7-4 teams singing a similar tune.
Garrett Gilbert: 2014 NFL Offensive Rookie of the Year
by jordansb on
Nov 25, 2008 2:14 PM CST
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You could also just as easily be 5-6
If the Florida game had gone as it would have 9 out of 10 times, and Arkansas had gotten points after they recovered their onside kick. I’m not trying to knock Ole Miss. Even though I didn’t like how he left, I love watching a Mack Brown recruit shocking all of these SEC teams. The point is, Florida losing to Ole Miss at home is what it is, and shouldn’t be made to look better because they “could be” undefeated or 9-2 or whatever.
PS: I do enjoy how you say you could be “at the worst 9-2”. Again, not knocking you, just an interesting statement.
If you're so sure of what it ain't, how about telling us what it am!
by circa1015 on
Nov 25, 2008 2:29 PM CST
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Turning the ball over 6 times against Vandy
is your argument for not being bad?
Nobody is saying Ole Miss. is terrible, but look at the other highly ranked 1-loss teams and Florida’s loss (at home to an unranked team) is worse than:
-UT losing on the road to a top 10 team (then and current)
-OU losing on a neutral field to a top 10 team (then and current)
-TT losing on the road to a top 10 team (then and current)
-USC losing on the road to an unranked team who is now #17 in the BCS and may win their confernce.
Although it is better than PSU losing at Iowa.
by Horncasting on
Nov 25, 2008 3:48 PM CST
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I never understood why they called us TU when they changed their name from AMC
hmm isnt that a name of a movie theatre?
my first born shall be named vy
by hookemkp on
Nov 25, 2008 2:21 PM CST
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dont think too hard there buddy
it might hurt your tsip head.
by Jackass04 on
Nov 26, 2008 8:11 AM CST
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oh i think it is just retarded and calling us tsip is not very insulting fyi
my first born shall be named vy
by hookemkp on
Nov 26, 2008 10:16 AM CST
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