OU by a single point in USA Today Coaches Poll
With the Sooners likely equaling, if not surpassing, the Longhorns in the computers, Texas must be ahead of OU in the Harris poll to have a shot at holding onto #2 in the BCS.
Texas made up 41 points in the Coaches poll from last week to this week. This is a significant move.
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Texas behind in Harris
The dream is over.
Tech a first place vote. Are you fucking kidding me?
by JohnsonUT on Nov 30, 2008 11:22 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
An open letter to Mike Leach
“Fuck You”
"Stats are for losers, I like winning games."
by bendj on Nov 30, 2008 11:23 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Not Yet
Texas gained points in the Coaches poll. We need to see the same gains in the Harris poll.
I think OU will be ahead in the computes but if we’re tied in the computers, then we need to just be ahead of OU by a few votes in the Harris to hold them off.
If OU is significantly ahead in the computers, then we need to be ahead by a lot in the Harris to make up the disadvantage.
--AW--
by awiggo on Nov 30, 2008 11:24 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
can u post a harris link?
"the friendliest people and the pertiest women you ever seen."
by guerro on Nov 30, 2008 11:25 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Harris not out yet
Prob 2 or 3 pm central.
--AW--
by awiggo on Nov 30, 2008 11:27 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
This means UT caught up a bit in the coaches' poll...
…wasn’t UT closer in the Harris than it was in the Coaches’ last week? So if UT also moves up in the Harris, maybe it will move ahead? However, if Sagarin is any indication, that still might not be enough to overcome computers. This is going to be CLOSE (obviously).
by Gator Cub on Nov 30, 2008 11:26 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry
I saw a Harris poll with today’s date. But it was last week’s.
by JohnsonUT on Nov 30, 2008 11:27 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Any chance the Harris Voters are more susceptible to 45-35 than the coaches?
Weren’t we all under the impression that if we were going to gain anything in the polls, it would likely be with the coaches (who would seem to value head-to-head more) than whoever the morons are that vote in the Harris?
It’s looks like the writing is on the wall folks…
Go Mizzou! Ugh…
by lnghrnchad on Nov 30, 2008 11:24 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
My hunch is that sportwriters are more susceptible than coaches
by Hopkins Horn on Nov 30, 2008 11:32 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I hope you're right
Although, I don’t think many sportswriters vote in the Harris…
by lnghrnchad on Nov 30, 2008 11:33 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I hope they are more succeptible to media influence
Since, unlike coaches, they may have more time to watch games and pre-game shows.
by JohnsonUT on Nov 30, 2008 11:33 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That's exactly what I'm thinking
Plus far fewer writers will have agendas (I’m looking at you, Pirate Boy) that skew poll results.
by Hopkins Horn on Nov 30, 2008 11:34 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I would have to agree..
I am also willing to bet that many Harris voters didn’t even know that their votes would determine the Big 12 South Champion last week. They should obviously know the stakes now and hopefully they re-evaluated their ballots.
by the1austin on Nov 30, 2008 11:52 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Too bad this isn't public
I would love to see who voted for Tech at 1. And OU’s 2 number 1s. But, this does show that it is over. It just makes me sick that of all teams, it is going to be OU pulling this shit. Especially with such a classless school, classless program, and classless coach.
by Texas Our Texas on Nov 30, 2008 11:25 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
F the voters.
How the hell does Florida, OU, and Tech all get first place votes and we don’t get a one. Screw them all. I’m about ready to want to boycott our bowl.
by hornalum08 on Nov 30, 2008 11:26 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Well we know one thing for sure
Mack didn’t give one to Texas to try and sabotage it. If Texas had gotten a first place vote then fingers would be pointing to him right now.
by seth78 on Nov 30, 2008 11:55 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Position or Points?
I am angry that one frickin point kept us behind OU, but is it position that counts or is it points?
by acho81 on Nov 30, 2008 11:26 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Which meand, for all practical purposes, we tied OU in the coaches
If we make up similar ground with the Harris, I think we’re through to KC.
by Hopkins Horn on Nov 30, 2008 11:30 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
sorry but by this logic dont we lose?
behind in Coaches, behind in Harris, tied/behind in computers?
by owenh on Nov 30, 2008 11:38 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
We need to be ahead
in the Harris poll.
--AW--
by awiggo on Nov 30, 2008 11:40 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The BCS formula is by points, not rank
So there isn’t a dime’s worth of difference between being one vote ahead and one vote being OU in the coaches so long as the Harris and computers don’t result in an absolute tie.
by Hopkins Horn on Nov 30, 2008 11:41 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well that is it. It has been a great season. Fiesta bowl here we come.
by girlslikefootball2 on Nov 30, 2008 11:27 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
trying a little reverse psychology
hoping that the opposite of what you say happens haha, been there
by owenh on Nov 30, 2008 11:59 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Scenarios
Ok, so if the computers are a wash (unlikely) texas needs a 2 point lead in the Harris.
If the computers are a .01 OU lead (likely) texas needs a 20 point lead in the Harris.
If the computers are a .02 OU lead (unlikely) Texas needs a 40 point lead in the Harris.
by JohnsonUT on Nov 30, 2008 11:27 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
No, not yet
Computer advantage will dictate how much Texas needs to be ahead by in the Harris poll.
See JohnsonUT post above.
--AW--
by awiggo on Nov 30, 2008 11:29 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No!!!
Just like it wouldn’t be over for OU if we were ahead of them by one point in the coaches.
by Hopkins Horn on Nov 30, 2008 11:29 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think this is good news
We had more ground to make up in the coaches, and I thought they would be less likely to swing their votes our way.
We made up all the ground we needed to, or could have expected to, with the coaches. Consider this an absolute tie rather than a #2 vs. #3.
by Hopkins Horn on Nov 30, 2008 11:28 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Actually
If I’m a Texas fan, I feel better about my chances now than I did 30 minutes ago. I think you made up a lot of ground.
by DoubleB on Nov 30, 2008 11:29 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
This is ok news
If Texas had not made up ground in the Coaches poll, then we would be done.
Now, that we have, there is a chance. The computers need to be close to a wash and we need to see the same surge in the Harris poll that we just saw in the Coaches.
Yes, there is a chance.
--AW--
by awiggo on Nov 30, 2008 11:30 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I live a pathetic life
I care 10 times as much about this vote than I care about the presidential election
by acho81 on Nov 30, 2008 11:30 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
you and me both, i haven't done any schoolwork this weekend.
putting off a couple of projects..if i wait it out and we don’t go i might cry.
by jacobb23 on Nov 30, 2008 11:32 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm a Gator fan and I'm procrastinating school work
by Gator Cub on Nov 30, 2008 11:34 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
we made up 41 votes in the coaches poll, that gives us a chance. wow, that mizzou loss looms very large right now.
by silky51 on Nov 30, 2008 11:31 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Don't forget the AP
…making up similar ground in the AP would give us a rather large edge over OU, opening up the split championship scenario more than I would have thought when I went to bed.
by Hopkins Horn on Nov 30, 2008 11:33 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
that looked better before Oregon State's implosion
. . last night. It’s one thing to beat up on USC. It’s quite another to beat up on Utah or Ohio State.
by DoubleB on Nov 30, 2008 11:34 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
another thing entirely to lose to USC
You really think we would “beat up” on them?
by andy_wooster on Nov 30, 2008 12:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No one's saying we WOULD beat up USC
Just that, if we did beat up USC, that would be a hell of a lot more impressive in the split championship scenario than would beating up Utah or OSU.
by Hopkins Horn on Nov 30, 2008 12:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That's why I said "split championship scenario"
by Hopkins Horn on Nov 30, 2008 11:35 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but the AP national championship is like winning an MTV movie award instead of an Oscar: almost zero legitimacy, and barely noticed. I wouldn’t tout Texas as national champions if they were to finish first in the AP voting, just as I don’t say USC had a share of the title a few years back.
by burntorangehorn on Nov 30, 2008 12:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh well...
the Fiesta Bowl is a pretty nice consolation prize, especially considering that we were projected to go to the Cotton Bowl at the beginning of the year
by acho81 on Nov 30, 2008 11:34 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
if we are up around 20-21 votes in harris poll, that could very well do it.
by silky51 on Nov 30, 2008 11:34 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
AP Poll
OU ahead by four points
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/ncaa/polls/ap/
by JohnsonUT on Nov 30, 2008 11:36 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Last Week's
In my constant refreshing I am making many mistakes. This is last week’s poll with the week’s records.
by JohnsonUT on Nov 30, 2008 11:37 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
do you suffer.....
from premature information???
by future_longhorn_dad on Nov 30, 2008 11:52 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
doesnt matter
the AP only determines a mythical champion at the end of the season, no effect on the BCS
by acho81 on Nov 30, 2008 11:37 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Who cares? Not only was that last week’s poll, it was also an AP poll, which means zero as far as the national championship goes.
by burntorangehorn on Nov 30, 2008 12:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Uh, Why the Pessimism? This is Fantastic....
By my logic…. We’ll still have a “smaller lead” in the computers, so if USA today is tied, then it would come down to the differential between harris and computers….
by Tackchevy on Nov 30, 2008 11:38 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
i don’t think we are expecting to have a lead in the computers
especially with ou being #1 in the sagarin
by bshaf on Nov 30, 2008 11:42 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If we pick up the same percentage of votes in the Harris...
…my off the cuff calculation has us up by AT LEAST 40 in the Harris.
by Hopkins Horn on Nov 30, 2008 11:39 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
is there a chance of that happening
My hope is that Harris voters have more time on their hands than the coaches and read all of the stuff in our favor. Is there a chance of being up by 40?
by acho81 on Nov 30, 2008 11:40 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Absolutely
Remember that there are far more voters in the Harris, so up by 40 in the Harris isn’t as impressive as up by 40 in the coaches. It’s very obtainable.
by Hopkins Horn on Nov 30, 2008 11:45 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And we're supposed to be able to
concentrate on hoops at 2:00PM while awaiting the Harris? I would like a new stomach lining, por favor.
by horndude on Nov 30, 2008 11:40 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Can there be a BCS tie?
How many decimal points does it go down to? And what would be the tiebreaker for that? :)
by Hopkins Horn on Nov 30, 2008 11:41 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Great news!
If we gain in Harris poll as much as we did in the coach’s poll, we are in!
In Mack Brown We Trust!
by Cyrus on Nov 30, 2008 11:42 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
From a guy on another board
Alright, final analysis for the day:
If OU is ahead .01 in the computers than Texas needs to pick up proportionally less votes in the Harris poll than they did in the coaches.
If OU is ahead .02 in the computers than Texas needs to pick up slightly more votes than we did in the coaches poll.
If OU has a .03 lead in the computers there is a 100% chance StoOgE will be crying.
If OU has a .01 lead that means that Texas stays ahead of OU in the Wolfe and OU does not jump Bama in the billingsly. I have run simulators that show Texas staying ahead of OU in the Wolfe. Billingsly is somewhat of a crapshoot, but my math shows Bama holding them off (really though, this is a cointoss).
If OU has a .01 computer lead than I really like Texas chances. If OU has a .02 computer lead I really like OU’s chances.
Things to look for: If Texas makes a big jump in the Harris polls 81 points or a 60 point Texas lead the chances that Texas is ahead of OU are around 80. If Texas lead is 32 points in the Harris (53 point gain) than UT’s chances are around 50 of staying ahead.
by JohnsonUT on Nov 30, 2008 11:43 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Harris Poll
Is this the site you guys are refreshing over and over? I don’t want to be refreshing the wrong site.
by Hookem4life84 on Nov 30, 2008 11:43 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Fuck you, Leach
Who else gives Tech a #1 vote. Hey Tech beat two division II schools, squeaked out a home win in the last second against Texas, got destroyed by OU and had to rally from behind to beat Baylo at homer. BAYLOR. Yup that screams #1 team in the country to me.
by seth78 on Nov 30, 2008 11:43 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Harris Poll
There are 114 voters.
Last week, OU led Texas 2,598 to 2,577, down by 21 votes.
We definitely need to be ahead in Harris but we don’t know by how much. It all depends on how the computers break.
--AW--
by awiggo on Nov 30, 2008 11:43 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
if we barely lose, that mizzou loss was the difference
by silky51 on Nov 30, 2008 11:46 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Just as much as Nebraska's 57-yard FG to beat CU
There will be TONS of examples like that for whoever doesn’t get through.
by Hopkins Horn on Nov 30, 2008 11:49 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
will..
the Arkansas win over LSU help us much?
by vy til i die on Nov 30, 2008 12:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I hate you BCS for
making me sweat over this… and to the m’fer who gave Tech a #1 vote. WTF? As if they werent lucky enough in their game yesterday…RU F’N KIDDING ME!
by RICHUT96 on Nov 30, 2008 11:45 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I think we are pretty well secure, we are already gaining ground from last weeks polls. So it seems like if every thing stays the same wouldn’t you say the momentum is shifting in our direction!
by kcmorse on Nov 30, 2008 11:48 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Bowl Projections for both situations
If we win the south
NCG- Texas/OU winner vs. Alabama/Florida winner
Rose- USC vs. Penn State
Sugar- Alabama/Florida loser vs. Utah
Fiesta- Texas/OU loser vs. Ohio State
Orange- Cincinatti vs. BC/VT winner
by acho81 on Nov 30, 2008 11:51 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Utah and the Sugar
I thought that Utah going to the Sugar was based upon the Fiesta’s first gobbling up an available USC team.
Now that that’s off the boards, don’t you think that the Fiesta would rather grab a higher-ranked, undefeated Utah team than a two-loss Ohio State team that’s traveled to the Fiesta (or the BSC championship game in Glendale) four of the past six seasons?
by Hopkins Horn on Nov 30, 2008 11:53 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That’s true, but only if USC does not win the Pac-10. For that to happen, UCLA would have to beat USC next Saturday.
by burntorangehorn on Nov 30, 2008 1:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If I understand it correctly...
Whichever bowl loses the #1 team picks first, which in this case is probably the Sugar.
"Either we need to re-calibrate our rectangle, or Alfonzo Marquez is not having a good night." - Josh Lewin
by utlonghorn24 on Nov 30, 2008 1:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Harris Poll
Are these the Harris Poll voters?
http://www.harrisinteractive.com/news/newsletters/bcsnews/BCS_Sept_17_2008.pdf
by UTexasCPA on Nov 30, 2008 11:51 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
sagarin
OU #1, Texas #2…. by default OU’s score will get thrown out, or at least one of their #1 scores (if there are more) will get tossed.
by SelimSivad on Nov 30, 2008 11:53 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I’m pretty sure some of those voters thought that Stoops, was pretty classless with that game last night. Running up the score in the last couple minutes, that shit was pretty Bush league. Only a assclown twot would do something like that!
by kcmorse on Nov 30, 2008 11:53 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I doubt it
He was running the ball. Many coaches do that nowadays instead of taking a knee.
by Hopkins Horn on Nov 30, 2008 11:54 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
running the ball...
with all of his starters in and a 13pt lead with 30 sec left on the clock = no class BS. As we all know Mack would have put in Chiles and had him hand off to CJ on an inside blast or have him take a knee and called it game over…especially after osu handed them the game with turnovers and piss poor pass coverage…OMFG!
by RICHUT96 on Nov 30, 2008 11:58 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
brown put chiles in with 11 minutes left
The only problem I had was that Sherrod harris didn’t get any pt
by acho81 on Nov 30, 2008 11:59 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
yes and i'm glad he did that...
it shows we have class and respect for our opponent [even it it was aTm :-’) ]
by RICHUT96 on Nov 30, 2008 12:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Why is everyone so upset about this?
This is excellent news. Coaches are notoriously more inertia-prone than non-coaches. And we were a lot closer in the Harris Poll than we were in the Coaches poll. Add that to the fact that we were so far ahead of OU in the computers going into this week that I think the best they can do is make the computers just about even and I think this is a nailbiter. If we make the same proportional gain in the Harris poll as we did in the Coaches poll, we will be ahead of OU in the Harris and likely be ahead in the BCS as welll.
by billyzane on Nov 30, 2008 11:54 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
then never mind, that could be good.
Any chance we beat them by 40+ in the Harris
by acho81 on Nov 30, 2008 11:55 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not upset either
this bodes well, but the computers is what folks are worried about
by RICHUT96 on Nov 30, 2008 12:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Look at the votes compared to last week...
OU last week= 1412
OU this week= 1397
(Lost 15 votes despite road win against #12 team)
Texas last week= 1370
Texas this week= 1396
(Gained 26 votes after A&M beatdown)
by the1austin on Nov 30, 2008 11:56 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Let's keep
in mind that for all we know, Mack left Oklahoma completely off his ballot this week.
by DoubleB on Nov 30, 2008 11:57 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Mack wouldnt do that...
Karma is a bitch.
by RICHUT96 on Nov 30, 2008 12:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Stoops
I hope that shit last night bites them in the Fucken dick today
by kcmorse on Nov 30, 2008 11:56 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I'm dyin' here.
Is there really 3-5 more hours till the BCS poll comes out?? Doesn’t the AP poll usually make it out around 12:00pm CST?
!F’ck OU!
by BigJohnson on Nov 30, 2008 11:57 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
OU did lose two of its four first place votes
by Hopkins Horn on Nov 30, 2008 11:59 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
and one of them went to Texas Tech
The problem with extrapolating the coaches poll is that any coaching rivalry (that we know or don’t know about) could have a pretty big effect. Were Texas or OU left off any ballots or below say 7 in the polls? We’ll never know.
by DoubleB on Nov 30, 2008 12:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Tech did not get a 1st place vote.
Show me a link where that’s true.
by billyzane on Nov 30, 2008 12:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Everyone chill
I looked at the wrong poll.
by DoubleB on Nov 30, 2008 12:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Turncoat
The identity of Harris Poll voters can be found on wikipedia’s site for the Harris Poll.
by Turncoat on Nov 30, 2008 11:59 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Turncoat
Harris Poll has OU at 2,598 and UT at 2,577
by Turncoat on Nov 30, 2008 12:01 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
STOP POSTING LAST WEEK'S POLLS
Look before you post! Some of us might have heart conditions, you know.
by Hopkins Horn on Nov 30, 2008 12:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Where did Tech get a first place vote?
I don’t see it.
by the1austin on Nov 30, 2008 12:03 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Maybe it's a typo in the first poll
It’s not in the SI poll anymore
by Hopkins Horn on Nov 30, 2008 12:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think the 1st place vote
was someone looking at last weeks numbers
by future_longhorn_dad on Nov 30, 2008 12:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It was there
SI corrected it though.
by JohnsonUT on Nov 30, 2008 12:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Lets say
that Texas does make it to the Big XII Championship game. Won’t they be penalized hard in the computers for beating Mizzou twice, leaving Mizzou possibly unranked? Would that allow OU to jump us big in the comps and possibly into the MNC?
by Horns82 on Nov 30, 2008 12:03 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Jumping ahead of yourself...
However, I am sure that the human polls would vote Tx #2 in that case
by ms_pras on Nov 30, 2008 12:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Strength of schedule is a factor, but not THAT big a factor. Beating a team that, following such a loss, would STILL be a borderline-ranked team would still be a net positive in the final BCS standings.
by burntorangehorn on Nov 30, 2008 1:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If we beat Mizzou
the human voters will give us even more points. If we WON the Big 12, why would voters put OU over UT? It wouldn’t even matter what the computers say. The SOS factor wouldn’t be the difference.
by goingforthecorner on Nov 30, 2008 1:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
no. if we're 12-1 we'll have all the voters in both harris and coaches.
no way we get jumped 12-1 with a conf title.
by jacobb23 on Nov 30, 2008 12:04 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
it is so sad that this is the system we as fans, and the players as well have to rely on,
for both Oklahoma and Texas Tech as well. It really is sad.
by jacobb23 on Nov 30, 2008 12:06 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
F it, let Missouri beat OU for the Big 12
and then we’re in
by SelimSivad on Nov 30, 2008 12:08 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Not happening...
The only way for TX is through the Big 12 Championship game
by ms_pras on Nov 30, 2008 12:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
did you see Mizzou's defense yesterday?
granted, OU didn’t have much of a D yesterday either
by cheevyjames on Nov 30, 2008 12:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
you may be right
but if the weather is that sh*tty anything can happen.
by SelimSivad on Nov 30, 2008 12:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
true
and it will be at Arrowhead again, right? Currently the weather for Saturday in KC looks to be sunny with only a 10% chance of precip, and no wet stuff during the week.
by cheevyjames on Nov 30, 2008 12:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Especially if Maclin’s at full strength, which he wasn’t for much of the KU game.
by burntorangehorn on Nov 30, 2008 1:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Are we in.. What are these polls?
Check these polls.. They have the latest coaches poll and the harris and the BCS..
http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/poll?poll=BCS
by Crimson Fog on Nov 30, 2008 12:09 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
ahead in AP
by owenh on Nov 30, 2008 12:12 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
It means there's almost no chance at a split championship
A narrow 8-point edge couldn’t be held, I think.
by Hopkins Horn on Nov 30, 2008 12:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It's also a BAD sign for the Harris
A small fewer number of sportswriters made the switch than did coaches. Didn’t see that one coming.
by Hopkins Horn on Nov 30, 2008 12:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
"far smaller number"
try that one.
by ajax77777 on Nov 30, 2008 12:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
wow
3 undefeated non-BCS teams in the top 12, plus 10-2 TCU
by SelimSivad on Nov 30, 2008 12:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
AP Poll is Out
Discuss amongst yourselves
by jeffinhouston on Nov 30, 2008 12:12 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
AP Poll
1. Alabama (62) 12-0 1,620
2. Florida (3) 11-1 1,516
3. Texas 11-1 1,488
4. Oklahoma 11-1 1,480
5. USC 10-1 1,355
6. Penn State 11-1 1,257
7. Utah 12-0 1,216
8. Texas Tech 11-1 1,197
9. Boise State 12-0 1,103
10. Ohio State 10-2 1,069
11. TCU 10-2 885
12. Ball State 12-0 834
13. Cincinnati 10-2 824
14. Oklahoma State 9-3 798
15. Georgia Tech 8-3 708
16. Oregon 9-3 630
17. Georgia 9-3 495
18. Boston College 9-3 482
19. Missouri 9-3 479
20. Brigham Young 10-2 385
21. Michigan State 9-3 312
22. Mississippi 8-4 280
23. Pittsburgh 8-3 241
24. Northwestern 9-3 190
25. Oregon State 8-4 122
Others Receiving Votes
Iowa 66, Virginia Tech 47, Tulsa 13, Florida State 12, California 7, West Virginia 4, Rice 3, Connecticut 3, Nebraska 3, North Carolina 1.
Dropped From Rankings
Florida State 23.
Complete Rankings
by OU Always Sucks on Nov 30, 2008 12:14 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Just gained 8 pts from last week?
Not looking good…
by ms_pras on Nov 30, 2008 12:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
and Okie only lost 4 points
Let’s hope it’s not a good indicator…
by BigJohnson on Nov 30, 2008 12:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry
We’ll call it a typo as opposed to not being able to subtract…
by BigJohnson on Nov 30, 2008 12:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Made up 6 from last week
Last week:
3. Oklahoma 10-1 1,486
4. Texas 10-1 1,482
by OU Always Sucks on Nov 30, 2008 12:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
AP Result
Moving up in the AP confirms the trend seen in the Coaches poll. The voters had a week to think about it and are reorganizing their ballots. I expect a bump in the Harris. Good chance it could be enough…..
by Wiggin on Nov 30, 2008 12:17 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
hopefully harris voters realize how important their votes are…
AP voters just check their ballots and realize it won’t mean much..
hopefully..
by bshaf on Nov 30, 2008 12:19 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
With these kinds of votes
the AP is usually a week or so ahead of the coaches. The AP poll is usually pretty good at looking at the info Sat night and putting out a logical poll on Sunday, whereas the coaches usually need the extra week (of AP voters convincing them on TV and in print) before they settle up to about where the AP poll is. My guess is the Harris poll works more like the Coaches’ poll, and will have a delta somewhere between the AP and Coaches’ deltas. Which, again, will make the separation between 2 and 3 razor thin.
by Gator Cub on Nov 30, 2008 12:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
When we hold #2 in BCS I will step outside my door and yell
TEXAS!!!!
by RICHUT96 on Nov 30, 2008 12:20 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
We just need to write a computer virus
…that shaves off points from rounding numbers, and adds those fractional points to Texas’ total.
by SelimSivad on Nov 30, 2008 12:20 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
You have considered this haven't you?
by Hookem4life84 on Nov 30, 2008 12:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, hacking into Sagarin's computer as we speak...
…looks like he’s about to break his own best time in Minesweeper.
by SelimSivad on Nov 30, 2008 12:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
but then misplace the decimal and all of the sudden it becomes obvious...
what we did, so we try to secretly return the points, but an abused and neglected employee burns the building down so no one ever knows anyway?
damn it feels good to be a gangster.
by longhornscardinals on Nov 30, 2008 12:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
thats the first thing i thought of as well
(Office Space people)
by owenh on Nov 30, 2008 12:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully the voters are coming to there senses that Bob Stoops is a classless piece of shit and they were turned off by those shenanigans last night!!!!!!!!!!
by kcmorse on Nov 30, 2008 12:22 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Tie in BCS
With how close all of the numbers are coming up, what happens if the dice happen to roll the right way for a BCS tie?
by BigJohnson on Nov 30, 2008 12:25 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Next Tiebreaker...
The team with the best overall winning percentage [excluding exempted games] shall be the representative
Aren’t FCS games exempted?
by BigJohnson on Nov 30, 2008 12:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
BCS Expert Jerry Palm says....
by his computer models, factoring in the Coaches Poll results so far that TEXAS NEEDS TO BE UP BY 31 VOTES IN THE HARRIS POLL to go to Kansas City
by silky51 on Nov 30, 2008 12:25 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
where are the panels of experts with laptops...
and touchscreen maps of voters in the united states to track all of this? where is anderson cooper?!
by longhornscardinals on Nov 30, 2008 12:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously,
this is the best news story of the year, why are we not getting national news coverage, BREAKING NEWS, we have an update on the harris poll, with the exclusive is….
by future_longhorn_dad on Nov 30, 2008 12:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Keep in mind...
…that 31 is a rough estimate — don’t celebrate too hard if we’re up by 32, or despair quite yet if it’s 30.
by Hopkins Horn on Nov 30, 2008 12:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
AP votes
http://pollspeak.com/pollstalker/pollstalker.php?s=5&p=9&t1=75&v=33&w=14&r=T – OU’s votes
http://pollspeak.com/pollstalker/pollstalker.php?r=T&s=5&p=9&w=14&t1=94&t2=0&v=0 – UT’s votes
Apparently quite a few AP voters think Texas and OU are 4th or worse.
by JohnsonUT on Nov 30, 2008 12:28 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Pretty sure that's last week's
Unless John Hunt voted us 7th again
by bamfor on Nov 30, 2008 12:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Who is this Hunt guy...
we need to take this guy out, his logic must be for his beavers, sinse Penn state blanked Oregon State and then also barely beat Ohio state, then all big 10 teams should be above us
by future_longhorn_dad on Nov 30, 2008 12:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Holy Jesus...
Can you people please stop posting results from last week (or previous weeks). You’re not discovering a new element of the periodic table, and you’re not breaking any news, Dan Rather. Jesus! Just. Stop.
"There are three kinds of people in this world: those who are good at math, and those who aren't..."
--GA Horn--
by GAHorn on Nov 30, 2008 12:31 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Jerry Palm said if Mizzou had won, Texas would just have to trail OU by 26 votes in the Harris Poll to get the nod…………………………freaking Mizzou!!!
by silky51 on Nov 30, 2008 12:33 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Take a breath GA
But you are right…… Seriously stop it!
"A lot of people look for the easy way to do anything, in swimming there is no easy way." - Eddie Reese
by SwimTexas on Nov 30, 2008 12:33 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Sorry...you're right.
Hey guys…guess what?!? I just heard that Vince ran it in with 19 seconds left to beat USC…comments?
"There are three kinds of people in this world: those who are good at math, and those who aren't..."
--GA Horn--
by GAHorn on Nov 30, 2008 12:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
we landed on the moon!
The Ralphie Report - Shoulder to Shoulder...All Colorado Buffaloes on SBNation - http://www.ralphiereport.com/
by irish1611 on Nov 30, 2008 12:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
From Dallas, TX...
President Kennedy…Dead.
"There are three kinds of people in this world: those who are good at math, and those who aren't..."
--GA Horn--
by GAHorn on Nov 30, 2008 12:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
will muschamp to replace mack brown???? links?
The Ralphie Report - Shoulder to Shoulder...All Colorado Buffaloes on SBNation - http://www.ralphiereport.com/
by irish1611 on Nov 30, 2008 12:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Fire discovered in East African cave dwelling!
Unfortunately, smoke inhalation also discovered ten minutes later.
by Horn Brain on Nov 30, 2008 12:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Going through the list of Harris Poll voters
The fate of our season is decided by:
Trev Alberts. Does anything think this guy remembers anything before the last cheeseburger he ate?
Someone named “J.J. Joe”
Allen Pinkett
Thurman Thomas
Al Del Greco… THE KICKER
And my very favorite:
Jackie Sherrill
by Horn Brain on Nov 30, 2008 12:34 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Wrong Trev
Trev Alberts is the “what the blog” guy.
by Horn Brain on Nov 30, 2008 12:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
JJ Joe? The former Baylor QB??
"There are three kinds of people in this world: those who are good at math, and those who aren't..."
--GA Horn--
by GAHorn on Nov 30, 2008 12:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Odds?
What would y’all say the odds are of us going to the big 12 ship
by acho81 on Nov 30, 2008 12:38 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
with people like Jackie Sherrill to decide our fate
we are screwed. Plain and simple.
45-35
by Hook'em13 on Nov 30, 2008 12:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Instead of hitting refresh over and over
Read Schlabach’s latest article here.
by Hookem4life84 on Nov 30, 2008 12:38 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
We got a lot of bad breaks....
If Tech loses, we are in. If USC or Florida, or Alabama don’t dominate, maybe there is enough seperation at the top for us to move. Cincy and TCU both moved up in the polls making OK wins look better. Mizzou lost. OK played in the last game before the vote for 2 strait weeks. If OK State makes just 1 stop in the 2nd half, then OU looks totally beatable. If, If, IF….
"A lot of people look for the easy way to do anything, in swimming there is no easy way." - Eddie Reese
by SwimTexas on Nov 30, 2008 12:39 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I said it last night, I'll say it again
I’m going to be super angry if Mizzou’s choke costs us a Big 12 title berth. I might be so mad that I actually cheer for OU to destroy Chase Daniel.
by TheElusiveShadow on Nov 30, 2008 12:39 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
No, no matter what...
OU needs to go down, either in the big 12 or the MNC
by ms_pras on Nov 30, 2008 12:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
They will embarrass themselves in the Title game if they make it that far.
Choking like they always do…
by HornPossessed on Nov 30, 2008 12:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
if this is how i feel now...
i can’t even imagine auburn’s angst in ’04…
by longhornscardinals on Nov 30, 2008 12:41 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
This is more like FSU-Miami in 2000
Miami beat FSU, both finished 10-1, Miami was ahead in the AP and the coaches, and FSU still went.
by Hopkins Horn on Nov 30, 2008 12:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
BCS Guru
Texas gets early good news, and should stay ahead in the computers (barely). He believes the Coach’s poll improvement will offset any gains OU made in the computers.
(This guy is usually very accurate)
by the1austin on Nov 30, 2008 12:43 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Ya hes reasonable
but also thinks OU has the “hotter” team
by owenh on Nov 30, 2008 12:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
SoonerFans
Shut down to unregistered users…
Dirty Sooner Bastards
by BigJohnson on Nov 30, 2008 12:45 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
If anyone is particularly sadistic...
…once the Harris comes out, I’d be interested to know whether we would have fared better or worse if the AP were still counted instead of the Harris.
It’s possible that the controversy that helped get us into the Rose Bowl in 2004 might come back and bite us in the ass four years later, since it was after that Texas-Cal battle that the AP withdrew from the formula.
by Hopkins Horn on Nov 30, 2008 12:46 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
wasn't it supposed to be an open ballot coaches poll this time or something like that?
by hookmhorns on Nov 30, 2008 12:46 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Does anyone
think that the one number one vote for Utah last week could go to Oklahoma and come back to hurt us?
There is no greater privilege than supporting the Burnt Orange Bevo Boys...and Girls...
by kirk1005 on Nov 30, 2008 1:01 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
i don’t see why it would..
that person obviously values undefeateds….
but who knows
by bshaf on Nov 30, 2008 1:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
As long as the gap doesn't widen in the Harris,
Texas needs to its computer average to be .009 higher that ou’s. Even with the OSU game last night, Texas’s SOS might be enough to keep the landthieves at bay.
by mnHorn on Nov 30, 2008 1:05 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Why should Mizzou's defeat hurt us?
I don’t get it.. I know we beat Mizzou, but we also beat Kansas, and there the win was in Kansas..
I would think that Kansas beating Mizzou actually helps us since we beat them on the road.. But I guess it hels OU as well
by Crimson Fog on Nov 30, 2008 1:06 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
yeah...
Kansas winning or losing to Mizzou helps/hurts Texas and Oklahoma equally, but Mizzou losing to Kansas hurts Texas ONLY.
-flo
by bleed burnt orange on Nov 30, 2008 1:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
By this standard, Nebraska-CU hurt us more
by Hopkins Horn on Nov 30, 2008 1:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
only because...
OU beat Nebraska and we beat CU…so yeah, it does hurt, but not more since some computers rankings dont give us a bonus for beating a lower ranked MU due to the loss.
-flo
by bleed burnt orange on Nov 30, 2008 1:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Because...
The models value highly-ranked teams more than middle-ranked teams. This is a bit of a generalization, but It is better for a team to have defeated one high-ranked team than several middle-ranked team. So any time a team that was previously highly-ranked, that only we played, is defeated, we suffer.
by bbatsell on Nov 30, 2008 1:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So...
…in general, beating two 10-2 and two 2-10 teams is ultimately better with the computers than beating four 6-6 teams?
by Hopkins Horn on Nov 30, 2008 1:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Posted this on another fanpost, but thought I'd add some more turmoil...
Well here’s some realistically unrealistic hope
In the Harris poll, if Texas can pick up 23 points and Oklahoma subsequently drop 18 points, then…..
Texas would have 2600 and Oklahoma would have 2580 pts in the Harris Interactive (not far fetched considering the swing in the coaches poll), then:
Texas can squeek out a win if we tie Oklahoma in the computer rankings. We have no shot of beating them if they are even 1 point higher in the computers than us, unless our Harris increases to 2610 or 2620, here are the numbers
Assuming Texas 2600 Oklahoma 2580 in Harris Interactive:
Texas-.9123
Oklahoma-.9053
Numbers could look like this:
Harris Coaches CPU BCS
Texas – .9123 .9154 .930 .9192
.940 .9226
.950 .9259
.960 .9292
Oklahoma .9053 .9161 .940 .9205
.950 .9238
.960 .9271
.970 .9305
If we pick up 2610 or 2620 and Oklahoma drops to 2580, our chances allow us to fall behind Oklahoma by ONLY 1 point in the Computer Avgs.
Anybody else feel even a little better? Me neither.
-flo
by bleed burnt orange on Nov 30, 2008 1:06 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
So what are the odds of us going to the big 12 championship?
Right now it seems to be looking better than expected.
45-35
by Hook'em13 on Nov 30, 2008 1:09 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
by my estimation...
we rely heavily upon leading in the Harris poll by 20 points. Anything other than that, and its too close. Even then its a coin toss since I think the computers will jump Oklahoma ahead of us. I think we can only hope to tie or be down by .010
-flo
by bleed burnt orange on Nov 30, 2008 1:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
thats not necessarily breaking news though...
anybody want to post last weeks Harris Poll standings yet? Its been 20 mins.
-flo
by bleed burnt orange on Nov 30, 2008 1:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
50% chance.
I dunno, you want a number? If OU gets ahead of us by more than .01 in the computers (a one point advantage in one poll) then we’re almost certainly screwed. If we tie, we need two points in the Harris. It’s basically completely up in the air.
by Horn Brain on Nov 30, 2008 1:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
and even though it is 50/50
it is still better than I had anticipated. After the 20 point victory by OU last night, I though we were done.
45-35
by Hook'em13 on Nov 30, 2008 1:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I did too.
It definitely didn’t seem to bode well for us.
"Either we need to re-calibrate our rectangle, or Alfonzo Marquez is not having a good night." - Josh Lewin
by utlonghorn24 on Nov 30, 2008 1:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Does anyone have any confirmed computer rankings out as of right now?
"Either we need to re-calibrate our rectangle, or Alfonzo Marquez is not having a good night." - Josh Lewin
by utlonghorn24 on Nov 30, 2008 1:17 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Believe that Sagarin is only one published as of now
by jeffinhouston on Nov 30, 2008 1:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well...
That’s not good, but hopefully the other computers won’t penalize us as much for Mizzou’s loss. They’ve been on our side all year long, and it would suck to see us lose that advantage the one week it actually matters.
"Either we need to re-calibrate our rectangle, or Alfonzo Marquez is not having a good night." - Josh Lewin
by utlonghorn24 on Nov 30, 2008 1:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
the best part of last night was stoops actually bringing up TT and how they beat them and we lost....huh???????????????? "but coach, what about UT beating you head to head?"---well, we are a different football team now...what an asshat.
by Mulliganville on Nov 30, 2008 1:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think the best part was Mack's interview during the game...
“These are 2 great teams, and we know, we beat ’em both.”
by crackaTX on Nov 30, 2008 1:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I call for recount on coaches!!!
my first born shall be named vy
by hookemkp on Nov 30, 2008 1:23 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
mike lupica nailed it today...this is completely and utterly ridiculous that we are waiting on mit dorks to determine who plays for the big 12 south...an absolute disgrace.
by Mulliganville on Nov 30, 2008 1:26 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
i know ap doesnt really count for anything
except for a mythical national champion at the end of the year (possibly a split title with oklahoma if this all doesnt work out)
but did anyone notice that we hopped oklahoma by eight points to #3.
Taylor
Texas Fan For Life!
by texaslonghornfan on Nov 30, 2008 1:27 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
What would you rather have?
A MNC and no Heisman for Colt or a Fiesta and Colt wins Heisman.
by seth78 on Nov 30, 2008 1:29 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Is this a serious question??? .nt
Watch out, I bite.
by EddieTheAlbinoSquirrel on Nov 30, 2008 1:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I dont think
even Colt would want this, so really, how can we as fans want this? MNC or bust!
There is no greater privilege than supporting the Burnt Orange Bevo Boys...and Girls...
by kirk1005 on Nov 30, 2008 1:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
agreed.. they probably go hand in hand though…
agreed.. they probably go hand in hand though…unless tebow somehow wins it as people split votes for bradford and colt…………………
agreed.. they probably go hand in hand though…unless tebow somehow wins it as people split votes for bradford and colt…………………i don’t think i could handle him giving a sermon at the podium again
by bshaf on Nov 30, 2008 1:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
interesting.. not sure how that triple-post within a post happened..
by bshaf on Nov 30, 2008 1:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That was
amazing, I thought it was on purpose and thought it ended up kinda cool…
I do agree though. I think if Texas somehow finds a way into the CCG, Colt puts up the numbers to move well past Bradford, but it might come down to how Tebow does against the “monster” Alabama D….
There is no greater privilege than supporting the Burnt Orange Bevo Boys...and Girls...
by kirk1005 on Nov 30, 2008 1:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
When did USC finish undefeated and get screwed by the lovefest for OU? Who promptly got blown off the field...
by Mulliganville on Nov 30, 2008 1:31 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
In 2004 Auburn was undefeated
and passed over in favor of Oklahoma, who got blown off the field by USC.
by Gator Cub on Nov 30, 2008 1:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
55-19, to be exact.
"Either we need to re-calibrate our rectangle, or Alfonzo Marquez is not having a good night." - Josh Lewin
by utlonghorn24 on Nov 30, 2008 1:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Slap.
The latest BCS shitstorm has absolutely brought out the very worst in many of us. I find myself, for the first time, trolling, over to DTN and CCM to state UT’s case. I find myself taking cheap shots at some of their posters who ran over here after the Tech game to gloat. My hatred for all things Harrell and Stoops have overwhelmed my thoughts for the last 7 days. I can’t take it anymore and I can’t wait for it to all be over. I should be studying for law school finals, or at church, not refreshing the USA Today coaches poll for 20 minutes straight on Sunday morning.
Fellas, whatever happens here today, I am confident that BON will return to a place of great football discussion and logical reasoning. Remember, cooler heads will prevail…
by the1austin on Nov 30, 2008 1:39 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Word
I having a hard time studying for my exam as well.. But exams be damned.. I love Texas and my emotions are running high right now.. And to go with what you said, I hate big game bob..
by Crimson Fog on Nov 30, 2008 1:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I have a 12 page paper due tomorrow at 9 am for a book I haven't read.
But I’m still 100% focused on the polls.
I have issues.
by HornPossessed on Nov 30, 2008 1:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm also putting off homework, a paper and a powerpoint that I need to create to present in a class.
It’s all for the burnt orange. Hook ’Em!
"Either we need to re-calibrate our rectangle, or Alfonzo Marquez is not having a good night." - Josh Lewin
by utlonghorn24 on Nov 30, 2008 1:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you
sitting here at work, I find myself refreshing 8 different tabs in IE to see if things have changed. I have since closed those tabs and will let my BP rest for a while and only pay attention here. No matter what happens, I have all the faith in the world that Texas will play in a meaningful game. Whether that is the MNC or Fiesta, I think its a win considering before the season 9-3 looked good to most of us and 10-2 would have been a magical season.
Hook ’Em
There is no greater privilege than supporting the Burnt Orange Bevo Boys...and Girls...
by kirk1005 on Nov 30, 2008 1:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Does anyone think that the Heisman and CCG are tied together?
In other words – UT and McCoy or OU and Bradford?
by ellayhorn on Nov 30, 2008 1:44 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I think so
I think that the team that goes on to play for the conference title will have its qb win the heisman
by Crimson Fog on Nov 30, 2008 1:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i dont think so...mccoy has zero weaponry and essentially carried his team to the "pinnacle" this season.
by Mulliganville on Nov 30, 2008 1:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm with you
I think the only way McCoy can lose the heisman would be for a simms melt down in the Big 12 CG.
45-35
by Hook'em13 on Nov 30, 2008 1:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Computer ratings scan:
Sagarin – OU was behind UT by a very thin margin in the Sagarin ratings last week, and is now ahead by a razor-thin margin, no? This is a small gain for OU, but not enough to make a measurable difference on its own.
Anderson – Texas was #3 and OU #4 in the Anderson computer, with a margin that was much bigger than the one separating Texas and #1 Alabama or Texas and #2 Utah. I think Texas eats into the Utah points to move up to #2 on that computer, while OU will have to absorb a little bit of Florida’s gains. I do believe UT will be #2 while OU will be either #3 or a very, very close #4.
Billingsley – OU was already #2, and I doubt they gain much on the Alabama #1 status. Texas was already #3, with a fairly small margin. With a fairly established ceiling for OU, I don’t think we’ll see much of a change for either of these teams, but if there is one, it would be a small gain for OU.
Colley – UT was #1, and OU #5. OU and Florida will probably pass Utah, putting them at a very close #3 and #4 (3a and 3b, if you will). Alabama’s win over Auburn likely won’t gain much, and while the Mizzou loss hurts UT relative to both OU and Bama, the Georgia loss hurts Florida and the LSU loss hurts Bama. I think UT is #1, Bama is a very close #2, and then there’s a medium margin until you see OU, UF, and Utah.
Massey – the future SOS indicates that OU’s SOS will not surpass UT’s because of this week’s game. That’s promising, since UT was behind OU by a very thin margin last week. Tech and Bama aren’t likely to gain on OU or UT, making this a fairly inert, net-zero situation IMO.
Wolfe – OU will probably pass TT, since the margin between #3 Tech and #4 OU was .001 last week. The question is by how much, and I have no idea. I don’t think Texas gains much, if at all, on Alabama, and OU probably closes the gap a little.
I think this all looks fairly positive for Texas, considering the results of the coaches’ poll. In other words: I’ve posted nothing new or insightful here, and we’re still biting our nails for the results of the Harris.
by burntorangehorn on Nov 30, 2008 1:47 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Anyone have a clue when the Harris might be released?
Or do you remember approx. what time they were released in the previous weeks?
by Hookem4life84 on Nov 30, 2008 1:50 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Hypothetical for ou and florida fans
If I am Alabama and I lose by 10 to Florida next week on a neutral field, why shouldn’t I still be ranked ahead of Florida? They lost to Ole Miss at home, not only did I not lose another game, but won convincingly in many of them. I am sure that none of them would agree with keeping me above Florida, but I would like them to rationalize their decision to move Florida ahead me while at the same time moving ou ahead of Texas.
by kellen on Nov 30, 2008 1:57 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
I am sorry, but you are utilizing logic, and that is a nono in college football polling...sarcasm off. Unfortunately, all they care about is WHEN you lose, not to whom or by how much. Morons.
by Mulliganville on Nov 30, 2008 2:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
In my opinion
Alabama has not been tested like Texas or OU, their big wins were over Georgia and LSU who obviously are overrated. I think most people want to see how they stack up with a legit top 5 team. I think many voters have their doubts about Alabama, and if they were to lose to Florida those doubts would become justified. PB pointed out that their resume is not much different than Utah’s. Is if fair? Probably not, but unlike many teams who have been screwed in the past, atleast they a shot to prove they belong.
by Hookem4life84 on Nov 30, 2008 2:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Florida would have the SEC title and a head to head win
So why should Bama get the nod over them? Their only argument would be if Texas or OU lost to Mizzou that they have just as much of a right to be in the MNC as the Big XII south team that didn’t go to its conference championship.
by seth78 on Nov 30, 2008 2:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
HUMMMM.... Bob Stoops to have a news conference at 4pm central time on espnews
by Hooked4Life on Nov 30, 2008 2:04 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
One can only hope
1. UT vs OU for Big XII championship; Mizzou forfeits spot
2. Agreed coin flip for Big XII south rep in title game
3. He’s stepping down as OU head coach after season
4. He didn’t realize he’s such a douche. He’s sorry.
5. He’s running off with Leach
by seth78 on Nov 30, 2008 2:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
maybe because Mac got his time during the game last night and now Bob wants his time. Or maybe the coaches know something that the rest of us don't know yet?
by Hooked4Life on Nov 30, 2008 2:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
too late for that, all the human voters will have voted by then
by bshaf on Nov 30, 2008 2:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs