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Texas is ahead of OU by 6 points in the new Harris poll. This means that we need the computers to be a dead heat or a slight UT edge in order to go to Kansas City.

UPDATE by billyzane: Texas' human average is .9135, while OU's is .9128. So if the computers are tied or Texas is ahead, Texas will be ranked ahead in the BCS and go to Kansas City. If OU is ranked ahead of Texas by ANY amount in the computers, then OU will be ahead.

UPDATE by 40AS : Fox has just revealed the BCS standings and it's bad news for the 'Horns. The computers have given OU a .013 point advantage, putting them at number 2 in the BCS and thus in the Big XII Championship Game. Worse, Fox had Barry Switzer on the broadcast talking about how "Bob took the high road" in the run-up to the standings.

Unbelievable.

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were out of it

OU at #2 in the BCS rankings.
fuck.

45-35

by Hook'em13 on Nov 30, 2008 3:19 PM CST reply actions  

Well......

The Fiesta Bowl is better than anything we could have hoped for at the beginning of the season.

by Brandon Worley on Nov 30, 2008 3:21 PM CST reply actions  

The computers will decide...

..with a tie in the computers going to UT.

If OU is ahead or Texas is ahead in the computers (after throwing out the highest and lowest ranking each), that team will be ahead in the BCS. In the end the voters decided to tie and let the computers decide who will go to the Big12 CG. It’s as fair as can be at this point.

by drycreek on Nov 30, 2008 3:22 PM CST reply actions  

is this really legit? i’m tired of people posting old ranking links on the forums

by boonies on Nov 30, 2008 3:22 PM CST reply actions  

fox to announce bcs ranking in a few secs...

live on the air now in their post-game show. don’t know if it’s been released yet but fox is selling this as a “big shake-up” in the bcs…

by iamjackburton on Nov 30, 2008 3:23 PM CST reply actions  

its legit, standings came out there first last week also, and they were correct

by Smalls1221 on Nov 30, 2008 3:23 PM CST reply actions  

Why is it not being listed on FoxSports or ESPN then?

I thought Fox had the rights to release the poll results before anyone else.

by OU Always Sucks on Nov 30, 2008 3:29 PM CST up reply actions  

scout website is sponsored by fox sports

by Smalls1221 on Nov 30, 2008 3:29 PM CST up reply actions  

cause they want to announce it on air

and make a big deal out of it. except these doofuses keep talking about plaxico “gangsta” burres. whatever.

by iamjackburton on Nov 30, 2008 3:30 PM CST up reply actions  

damn ou 2nd in cfn

dunno gonna wait to see what fox says for confirmation

by iamjackburton on Nov 30, 2008 3:25 PM CST reply actions  

fox

enough with the nfl…we want the rankings

OU Sucks

by HornFan124 on Nov 30, 2008 3:27 PM CST reply actions  

oh well it'll still be a fun new years

i get to watch the horns destroy someone (probably utes?) in a major bowl game and get to gleefully watch florida wipe the floor with ou’s crappy d in what will no doubt be an embarrassment once again for the big 12. it’s gonna be fun anyways. great, great year nevertheless.

by iamjackburton on Nov 30, 2008 3:28 PM CST reply actions  

p.s. leave it to the blogs

…to screw the networks by beating them to the bcs list. lol. old media blows.

by iamjackburton on Nov 30, 2008 3:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Blame the computers

At this point the computers decided. For what it’s worth it was a decision based not on style points or running up the score, but who we beat and who they beat, SOS, etc.

by drycreek on Nov 30, 2008 3:30 PM CST reply actions  

how stupid

we made up all the human votes that we were lacking last week, only to have it spoiled by OU getting ahead in the computers, thus getting the no. 2 spot.

If you're so sure of what it ain't, how about telling us what it am!

by circa1015 on Nov 30, 2008 3:30 PM CST reply actions  

fuck coaches

my first born shall be named vy

by hookemkp on Nov 30, 2008 3:31 PM CST reply actions  

At least we don't have to sweat out another game

Even though I would kill for a trip to KC, a bcs game is guaranteed now.

If you're so sure of what it ain't, how about telling us what it am!

by circa1015 on Nov 30, 2008 3:32 PM CST reply actions  

OU can still lose in the CCG

All is not over. According to the computers OU and UT are #1 and 2 in the country, Alabama is #3 and Tech is #4 in the computers. Florida is only #6.

by drycreek on Nov 30, 2008 3:32 PM CST reply actions  

lame fox has confirmed the bcs rankings after an eternity of waiting

ousucks #2, ut #3.

p.s. hey barry i’m gonna be smiling like that too when florida wipes the floor with your sooners.

by iamjackburton on Nov 30, 2008 3:34 PM CST reply actions  

Fuck OU. and fuck barry switzer.

OU Sucks

by HornFan124 on Nov 30, 2008 3:34 PM CST reply actions  

barry can barely justify it

listen to him. he’s repeating what bob stoops and the ou people wrote for him like some empty-headed robot. guy doesn’t have an original thought in his empy head. then again he is a former sooner coach so no surprise there.

by iamjackburton on Nov 30, 2008 3:36 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm sick of hearing about tech

whenever 45-35 is talked about. We aren’t saying we should be voted ahead because of head-to-head. We are saying we should be voted ahead because the game was an objective way of seeing who is better. Two different concepts.

If you're so sure of what it ain't, how about telling us what it am!

by circa1015 on Nov 30, 2008 3:36 PM CST reply actions  

Switzer doesn't know shit.

Notice the only thing he talks about is how many points ou has been putting up. Not how many they’ve been allowing.

OU Sucks

by HornFan124 on Nov 30, 2008 3:36 PM CST reply actions  

Heisman

Anyone think Colt can still win it over Bradford if they win the Big 12 Champ game?

by Smalls1221 on Nov 30, 2008 3:37 PM CST reply actions  

Yes,

I think they’ll make the Heisman the consolation prize. Had OU gotten screwed, then Bradford would have won.

by tdwalsh on Nov 30, 2008 3:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes, but it's only if they vote on pure MVP.

Bradford does shit. He has superior receivers that sit wide open and all he does is throw it up and hope they catch it.

by HornPossessed on Nov 30, 2008 3:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Not if Bradford plays against Mizzou like he did against Tech and OSU

The overall passing TD and yard stats will be too much. Let’s hope the voters send them in early like they year that Bush won over Vince and the voters didn’t take into account 70-3.

by Horncasting on Nov 30, 2008 3:38 PM CST up reply actions  

OU still sucks

..and they will fuck it up like the always do in a big game.

by seahorn on Nov 30, 2008 3:38 PM CST reply actions  

only

if switzer does not have vote

by burntorange81 on Nov 30, 2008 3:38 PM CST reply actions  

Bradford gets another primetime game next week against a team lacking a defense.

OU Sucks

by HornFan124 on Nov 30, 2008 3:38 PM CST reply actions  

How the hell....

Does Fox Employ a ex-OU coach as its BCS analyst??? Thats like employing Bill Clinton as your only political analyst

by future_longhorn_dad on Nov 30, 2008 3:38 PM CST reply actions  

Switzer is an idiot

He is saying that the win margin last night had something to do with the computers…win margin isn’t taken into account in any of the computer polls.

I hate to encourage people to have hope because hope can hurt real bad when things don’t go the way you want them to. BUT, it isn’t over yet. ou still has to beat Missouri and top 5 teams in the Big 12 championship game are 5-5 since the inception of the conference.

Hook’Em & Go Tigers!

by 34Longhorn on Nov 30, 2008 3:38 PM CST reply actions  

Mizzou's defense is terrible, terrible, terrible.

Playing with a lead twice yesterday they consistently let receivers get behind them and run free. Looked alot like OSU’s defense.

by Horncasting on Nov 30, 2008 3:40 PM CST up reply actions  

I can't believe

they edged us out by .0128. Glad the Big 12 thinks that .0128 is more important than a 10 point victory on a neutral field.

by tdwalsh on Nov 30, 2008 3:40 PM CST reply actions  

When OU played Kansas the week after losing their MLB against us, they got torched.

Now, they lost that backup MLB and are going up against a better offense than Kansas…I have hope for an upset. But we all know how terrible Chase Daniel is when it counts.

by HornPossessed on Nov 30, 2008 3:41 PM CST reply actions  

I hate the BCS

I hate OU
I hate A&M
I hate Stoops
I hate Switzer
I hate the BCS
I hate Tech
I hate OU
I hate Leach
I am full of rage

45-35

by Hook'em13 on Nov 30, 2008 3:42 PM CST reply actions  

Amen bro.

Don’t forget Mizzou, hurting us in the computers at the last minute and probably will screw us over again by losing terribly to OU in the CCG.

by Heart of a Muschampion on Nov 30, 2008 4:03 PM CST up reply actions  

and the Nebraska Kicker.

pisses me off that he is so good at kicking the football.

45-35

by Hook'em13 on Nov 30, 2008 4:05 PM CST up reply actions  

I am buying a pet tiger

And naming him Upset.

Chase Daniel, you have 500,000 new #1 fans. Play the game of your life, son.

--PB--

by Peter Bean on Nov 30, 2008 3:43 PM CST reply actions  

Pretty sure...

their loss to KU probably made the difference considering how close it was.

I hope they enjoy OU because in a way, they decided who they’d be playing next Saturday.

Be nobody but yourself in a world that desperately wants you to be like everybody else.

by 54b on Nov 30, 2008 3:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Absolutely

That loss was catastrophic.

Absolutely killed us. But now we have no choice but to root for Mizzou. Not that the Fiesta Bowl would be a disappointing end to the season, but a Tigers Redemption Upset would sure be the cherry on top of this season.

--PB--

by Peter Bean on Nov 30, 2008 3:50 PM CST up reply actions  

that doesn't make ANY sense

considering you played both mizzou and ku. why wouldn’t the kansas win help you as much as the mizzou loss hurt you?

by calim on Nov 30, 2008 6:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Because KU is a shared opponent of UT and OU

KU winning helps both teams, probably equally.

The Mizzou loss was devastating for us and ONLY us. OU didn’t play them. It weakened our SOS and not Oklahoma’s. Our Mizzou win was supposed to somewhat counter OU’s wins over TCU and Cincinnati.

by goingforthecorner on Nov 30, 2008 7:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Farce

What is the point of a playoff game in a system where head-to-head play means nothing?

Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. If they get mad, you're a mile away AND you have their shoes.

by Caradoc on Nov 30, 2008 3:43 PM CST reply actions  

Is Texas locked in at #3 in the BCS?

Will Florida jump us to #2 is they beat Alabama or can it be TX/OU 1-2 with Florida at 3? I dont see why not considering the computers hate them and wont get much better even with a win against bama.

by Horns82 on Nov 30, 2008 3:43 PM CST reply actions  

Whatever...

We beat their asses this year and well do it again next year on the way to the NC.

by JMCG on Nov 30, 2008 3:43 PM CST reply actions  

OU in MNC

If they make it, I hope they lay another fat egg for the whole nation to see. Hottest team, my *

by DONSLIQ on Nov 30, 2008 3:44 PM CST reply actions  

Makes me want to puke

All we hear about is how OU puts up 60 points every week SINCE THE UT GAME. Out defense gets no credit and Stoops is rewarded for running up the score every week. Last night was dispicable. If Mack had been trying to score with 30 seconds left I would have sent a letter to DeLoss Dodds asking for Mack’s job. That’s just not how we roll and it’s pathetic.

by Hot Hands on Nov 30, 2008 3:44 PM CST reply actions  

Running up the score? Please

The Sooner’s did not run up the score at the end. They were running the time down and because they create a huge hole (that even your fat head could fit through) Chris Brown is suppose to take a knee and not do his job of running through the hole? I’m sure UT didn’t run the score up against A&M when they had the lead. Besides, why are you all whining when Tech beat you and then got thumped big time against the sooners.

by oubred on Nov 30, 2008 7:21 PM CST up reply actions  

are you that dumb?

b/c 1. we beat you (see: 45-35)
       2. Mack would’ve called for a KNEEL instead of a run play. Nobody expects the RB to stop and fall,
            but the play should have never been called. By running it, Stoops can point to the fact that it was
            a run and that he wasn’t running up the score.
       3. You had your STARTERS in the game w/ 13 freaking seconds left. Colt and the first team was
             out at around 11 min.
       4. sooners are scum and don’t deserve this opportunity. (well, maybe you deserve the beatdown
            Florida/Alabama will give you)

by vy til i die on Nov 30, 2008 9:09 PM CST up reply actions  

F**K F**K F**K

I hate that asshole Switzer…. the last thing I needed to see was his ugly, smug face telling us we lost out!

Mannn…. Mizzou loosing last night killed us in the computers… gave the Oklahomos just enough of an edge to put them through. As much as I would love to root for Mizzou next week, I know it ain’t gonna happen… unless of course we see another 2003 finish!

Please mizzou, go see tapes of the Kansas St massacre! Pretty Please!

by LonghornForLife on Nov 30, 2008 3:44 PM CST reply actions  

If only, if only, if only.....

You know what, let OU have Florida, I hate florida, but I will shout with joy watching tebow make bradford cry, watching meyer make stopps get in the fetal position, and watch OU goes 0-6 in the last 6 BCS bowls

by future_longhorn_dad on Nov 30, 2008 3:44 PM CST reply actions  

Offense > Defense for BCS

Every stat thrown out was an offensive one, defense gets no love. Anyone remember what wins championships?? DEFENSE

I Hope OU gets exposed for the crappy defense that they have, against Mizzou or Florida. They will definitely lose one of those games.

by Smalls1221 on Nov 30, 2008 3:47 PM CST reply actions  

Calling out the voters

OK, everyone who put Oklahoma ahead of, please explain why running up the score is more important than head-to-head competition. Enlighten us, won’t you?

Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. If they get mad, you're a mile away AND you have their shoes.

by Caradoc on Nov 30, 2008 3:47 PM CST reply actions  

I guess all coaches believe 35 is greater than 45

Heard a great point today – college coaches always say they have no time to look at anyone else but their own team and that week’s opponent. So how in the hell can they rank 25 teams? If they can’t see the games or remember what happened 6 weeks ago, why does their opinion matter so much?

"The more I thought about it, the more sense it made. I want to be at Texas." -- Will Muschamp

by UrbanDad on Nov 30, 2008 3:48 PM CST reply actions  

Leach

I’d be curious to know where the pirate ranked Texas this week.

by OU Always Sucks on Nov 30, 2008 3:50 PM CST up reply actions  

I think I'm going to pull a General Sherman

and march across Oklahoma setting stuff on fire.

by SelimSivad on Nov 30, 2008 3:48 PM CST reply actions  

LOL

A lot of this negativity is getting to me, but that is too funny. Please start at the Ford Center in OK City and get Kevin Durant to ride shotgun on your carnival of vengeance.

by bhamhorn on Nov 30, 2008 4:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah I'm disappointed.

Like a punch in the gut. I want to cry, and I’m a grown man. (I’m not 40, though)

But hey, remember this folks. When this season started, I was just hoping we made it to 10 wins by after the bowl game. This was an incredible ride, and hey, we’re headed back to the BCS for the third time in five years.

Tech can talk trash all it wants. They’re headed to the Cotton Bowl. OU can talk trash, too. We beat them head-to-head in October.

Life isn’t so bad.

by lolwaihallothar on Nov 30, 2008 3:49 PM CST reply actions  

It's funny

Isn’t “neutral field” always the argument to see who is really better head-to-ead. If only there were some way…

Oh yeah.

"The more I thought about it, the more sense it made. I want to be at Texas." -- Will Muschamp

by UrbanDad on Nov 30, 2008 3:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Bright side of things....

1. Texas is going to a BCS game – much more than was expected for this year.

2. There is an outside possibility of a split title, with the AP MNC up for grabs for the horns.

3. There is an ever slimmer outside possibility of karma allowing Mizzou to beat the classless land thieves in KC opening the door for America’s team to play for the MNC.

4. And if all else fails it is a highly likely that Florida will beat the living pigshit out of OU in primetime on national TV.

All in all, though, this year has exceeded expectations; we should all be very proud; and let’s hope Colt stays true to his word and comes back for his senior year.

by OU Always Sucks on Nov 30, 2008 3:49 PM CST reply actions  

The way these past few weeks have been going

I wouldn’t be surprised if we lose Colt. Not that there is a direct causality so much as that is how bad our luck has been.

I know 11-1 is great, but I can’t help but feel we’ve been cursed lately. Although we beat them, somehow, Oklahoma still managed to ruin our hard-earned glory season. Every time someone points out that we are far ahead of where we were projected at the beginning of the season, I can’t help feel you’re overlooking the Oklahoma factor.

Yes, if we were 11-1 and were beat out by Penn St. or LSU by .013 in the BCS, then I would be banging the same drum. But to have beaten OU on the field, and still to watch them receive the last laugh – through no fault of our own, and not AT ALL to their own credit – is just too difficult a pill to swallow.

by BrooklynHorn on Nov 30, 2008 4:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Worst case scenario

Is a BCS bid for us and a chance at the MNC if Mizzou wins. Worst case for OU is no BCS. What I wouldn’t give to see OU lose another game in the Cotton Bowl against a former longhorn.

by seth78 on Nov 30, 2008 3:49 PM CST reply actions  

fuck this

I hope Florida beats Alabama and plays OU for the national title and ass rapes OU.
I HATE OU
I HATE OU

45-35

by Hook'em13 on Nov 30, 2008 3:51 PM CST reply actions  

f ou

don’t we at least share the national championship right

by KingMack on Nov 30, 2008 3:51 PM CST reply actions  

Stoop this.

I hate this stooping system.

by DisplacedTexan on Nov 30, 2008 3:53 PM CST reply actions  

:(

The only thing that makes this better is that no matter who wins the Big 12 they will have a loss against Texas. Besides it would not be fair to Mizzou for them to lose twice to Texas.

Sancto Tedford

by monolake on Nov 30, 2008 3:53 PM CST reply actions  

Shouldn't we still be campaigning a bit?

I mean, certainly there are voters out there that have voted UT over OU in the human polls because they think UT is better. If OU beats Mizzou, do these voters change their minds?

I mention this, because if we can maintain some of those votes that put us ahead of OU this week after next, there is a real possibility that we can stay ahead of Florida if Florida is a weak 2. This scenario has been bandied about by various posters, but I think it is very real. And if we can maintain some of those votes in both polls that have us ahead of OU, that could keep us close enough in the human polls where the computers will push us over the top as the #2 and then we can kick OU’s a@@ again!

by A-Tex Devil on Nov 30, 2008 3:55 PM CST reply actions  

sorry y'all

im a cowboy fan, and i had to sit through that shit last night, sorry we couldnt pull one out for ya, i hate stoops so god damn much, and switzer is a cracked out bitch. got i hate ou

by okietigerr on Nov 30, 2008 3:55 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

It's all good.

Watching OU get dominated by a superior team in a BCS bowl still makes me somewhat happy.

by HornPossessed on Nov 30, 2008 3:57 PM CST up reply actions  

switzer is a cracked out bitch

this is my new sig line

RECRUITS: Jordan Leslie (Tomball TX Tomball)
"Stats are for losers, I like winning games"

by 98horn on Nov 30, 2008 3:58 PM CST up reply actions  

No no

I thought you guys did great. It’s unbelievable what I’m hearing today about OU “dismantling” OSU and crap like that. It was close until the 4th quarter, and then OU scored an unnecessary TD when MOST COACHES including Mack Brown would’ve kneeled.

You guys SHOULD have exposed their team as a mediocre defense, but it didn’t matter for the computers

by goingforthecorner on Nov 30, 2008 3:58 PM CST up reply actions  

If you actually give a shit

Stoops will be on ESPNEWS at 4pm (about 5 minutes). I’m guessing it’s a press conference.

by goingforthecorner on Nov 30, 2008 3:56 PM CST reply actions  

MB should states his case..

to BCS committee that it’s a big difference payout $$$ between MNC and Fiesta Bowl..

by GoHorns1 on Nov 30, 2008 3:56 PM CST reply actions  

If OU barely escapes by Mizzou

You think that would have more humans vote UT at #2?

by goingforthecorner on Nov 30, 2008 3:57 PM CST reply actions  

doubt it

They’d get a bigger boost in the computers no matter if UT got a handful more human votes over OU.

by seth78 on Nov 30, 2008 3:58 PM CST up reply actions  

nope

it’s impossible to lose ground in a conference championship game unless you lose the game

by jtabor on Nov 30, 2008 3:58 PM CST up reply actions  

Doubt it. The OU bandwagon will be in full swing from this point forward.

Just to prepare everyone for the statements to be made:

- OU is the most unstoppable team ever.
- OU’s offense is the best ever.

Just watch the media junglefuck them. (had to curse, sorry)

by HornPossessed on Nov 30, 2008 3:59 PM CST up reply actions  

Just like in ’05 when USC was the most unstoppable team ever, and they had the best team ever, and we all know what happened there

by Smalls1221 on Nov 30, 2008 4:01 PM CST up reply actions  

That team was good

I wish we had a chance to play them on the field.

Oh wait….

by DisplacedTexan on Nov 30, 2008 4:02 PM CST up reply actions  

UF beats Bama, but doesn't pass Texas

If UF beats Bama, and Bama’s #1 votes are spread evenly between OU and Florida (or more in favor of OU, or potentially, some fall to us) , then potentially, Florida may not be far enough ahead of the ‘Horns and may not get enough of a boost from the computers to pass us in BCS. I’d hate to be a Gator fan in that scenario, but I think this is still a viable outcome.

Again — we will also need some of the voters to “do the right thing” and keep us ahead of OU on their ballots. Should be interesting.

by A-Tex Devil on Nov 30, 2008 4:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Just think about 2009

My god, we’re going to be a practical lock for the MNC.

And beyond, with Muschamp and a few years of recruiting. After Colt there’s Gilbert, and we’ve still got a ton of youth that’s only going to improve from this year — a 11-1 BCS bowl season.

Yeah this hurts, but my god I don’t think I’ve felt this good about the program in a long time.

by lolwaihallothar on Nov 30, 2008 3:59 PM CST reply actions  

Bulletin Board Material

Beat OU worse next year boys. Beat em’ until they cry burnt orange tears of utter demoralization.

by DisplacedTexan on Nov 30, 2008 4:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Actually this is better...

OU beats us next year, but we just slip past them by a fraction of a point in the BCS rankins, because “we got stronger as the season went on” and by the end of the season UT “looked like a better team.”

"Only angry people win football games." --DKR

by OBdoc on Nov 30, 2008 4:26 PM CST up reply actions  

"rankings" -- not "rankins"

Sorry, I need to proof-read these things.

"Only angry people win football games." --DKR

by OBdoc on Nov 30, 2008 4:28 PM CST up reply actions  

No such thing as a lock

First, we don’t know if Colt is coming back, or if our top players will stay healthy. With Muschamp’s promotion, we don’t know whether Applewhite will stay. Next year, if it comes down to such thing, our OOC SOS will be even worse than this year. Furthermore, as we saw this year, it only takes one last second (mis-)play to ruin your chances for the MNC.

"Only angry people win football games." --DKR

by OBdoc on Nov 30, 2008 4:36 PM CST up reply actions  

valid points

Nothing is a lock. That said, I think next year looks incredibly promising.

by mrbubbles812 on Dec 1, 2008 3:11 AM CST up reply actions  

Can we start a campaign

To make sure Colt does come back for next year…with him back, we will bring the title back to Austin!

by hoogs on Nov 30, 2008 4:04 PM CST reply actions  

We won't need to make a campaign

he’s coming back. The scouts will tell him to come back. Think A.J. Abrams.

by goingforthecorner on Nov 30, 2008 4:08 PM CST up reply actions  

He will be back

He won’t leave Shipley all by his lonesome.

by mrbubbles812 on Dec 1, 2008 3:12 AM CST up reply actions  

Stoops makes me want to puke

he’s got his one-sided story going…………yuck!!

by silky51 on Nov 30, 2008 4:05 PM CST reply actions  

I wouldnt watch his sorry ass if someone paid me

Guaranteed to work 60% of the time, every time.

by poteet76 on Nov 30, 2008 4:06 PM CST reply actions  

I am usually an optimist

But I just can’t see how Missouri even has a shot at beating OU. I know there is a reason they play the games, but it would take a whole lot for the Tigers to pull that off.

This is just a crappy situation…but the Fiesta Bowl is a great spot to be. Let’s just hope its a game against the Buckeyes and not Utah. Either way, the victory will be our springboard to our MNC victory next year!

by hoogs on Nov 30, 2008 4:08 PM CST reply actions  

This is not a done deal.. even if OU and Florida win.

We need:
- Florida beat Alabama
- Alabama’s No. 1 votes get split evenly or more in favor of OU
- To be a near unanimous #3 in human polls
- Some reasonable percentage of voters in both polls that have us ahead of OU keep us there
- Florida doesn’t get the computer boost they need from the Alabama win.

by A-Tex Devil on Nov 30, 2008 4:08 PM CST reply actions  

When

When was the last time ou won a bowl game? CHOKE !

by rubyou on Nov 30, 2008 4:10 PM CST up reply actions  

You can't really dispute that..

Had UTEP gone 10-2 and won C-USA, or Arkansas gone 9-3, it would have really helped. They got lucky with TCU and Cinci, but there was nothing we could do about that.

We should schedule tougher Non-Con games. We really should. That is on us. Don’t ever discount the fact that in 2005 we went to the Horseshoe and beat Ohio State. Had PSU finished undefeated, we would have had that trump card over them (and yes, we would have needed it).

by the1austin on Nov 30, 2008 4:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Stoops said he DECLINED interview for our Thursday game

said he didn’t want to do it because it wasn’t right.

Basically saying he wasn’t a fan of Mack Brown accepting the interview for the Bedlam game.

by goingforthecorner on Nov 30, 2008 4:10 PM CST reply actions  

When the dust settles, Texas will get the last laugh when....

OU loses to Florida or Bama, and we’ll win the Fiesta Bowl and finish #2…….maybe #1 in AP for a split title.

OU SUCKS!!

by silky51 on Nov 30, 2008 4:14 PM CST reply actions  

No chance at a split title.

Oregon State losing ended that debate….

by the1austin on Nov 30, 2008 4:28 PM CST up reply actions  

These reporters

have Stoops so far down their throats it’s difficult to hear their questions.

by Horn Brain on Nov 30, 2008 4:15 PM CST reply actions  

Texas - Florida

UT – .922
UF – .885

Boy… that is a relatively big margin, no? UF is down .120 to UT in the computers. They might very well need the humans to carry them to pass us.

by goingforthecorner on Nov 30, 2008 4:17 PM CST reply actions  

Brad Edwards finally giving Florida fans cause for concern

He stated Florida will need a big boost from the human polls, because just beating Bama is not going to have them jump Texas in the Computer Polls

by silky51 on Nov 30, 2008 4:25 PM CST up reply actions  

And they're going to get it.

UF staying below us is just not going to happen, folks.

"Either we need to re-calibrate our rectangle, or Alfonzo Marquez is not having a good night." - Josh Lewin

by utlonghorn24 on Nov 30, 2008 4:30 PM CST up reply actions  

you're right

I’m in full-denial mode right now

by silky51 on Nov 30, 2008 4:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Agreed and they will

If UF wins the SEC CG, they will be a consensus #2 (average out to #2 with plenty of #1’s and some #3s) at the least with the voters. This would give them .96 for both polls. The computers may have them a bit softer, but I would expect them to go at least up to 0.90 from 0.82 right now. This would average out to 0.94, well ahead of Texas currently.

Texas will get a slight boost in the computers if Alabama loses, but not much, maybe up to 0.96 from 0.94 right now. This still leaves Texas short by a bit.

For Texas to have a chance we would need a solid #3 in the polls (0.92) and split the #1s and 2s in the computers with OU (0.98). This would “tie” us with Florida at 0.94 in the BCS average.

Assuming OU wins, hope for a OU blowout, an ugly win by Florida, and that Mizzou will hurt OU in the computers.

Otherwise hope that Mizzou figures out how to stop OU and wins.

by drycreek on Nov 30, 2008 4:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Does this mean...

…if OU is up on Mizzou. to root for an OU rout of Mizzou and possibly drag #1 votes away from Florida?

by Hopkins Horn on Nov 30, 2008 4:55 PM CST up reply actions  

If there is a conspiracy in College Football

It is that they would never let 2 teams from the same conference play in the NCG

by Hot Hands on Nov 30, 2008 4:19 PM CST reply actions  

Schlabach's Bowl Projections Make No Sense

NCG – Alabama vs. Texas
Fiesta – Oklahoma vs. Ohio State

How can Texas still make it to the NCG and leapfrog OU if OU doesn’t lose to Mizzou. And in that instance, it would be Mizzou in the Fiesta Bowl.

That just makes no sense on his part.

by hoogs on Nov 30, 2008 4:25 PM CST reply actions  

Bowl predictions

Maybe he thinks OU will struggle to beat Missouri, and some voters rank Texas over OU; which I think would be hilarious and justified since we beat them both

by memphizbell on Nov 30, 2008 4:29 PM CST reply actions  

Looking at the Wolfe and Sagarin computer scores

Wolfe – OU 10.215
              TX 10.186
Sagarin – OU 93.94
                 TX 93.50

If Mizzou won, I believe the places could have been switched around, given how close these scores are, and that would have given us at least .960 tie with OU in the computer ratings…
Mizzou can redeem itself by beating OU in Kansas City. That actually would become easier road to Miami than we’ve anticipated.

by austinite on Nov 30, 2008 4:43 PM CST reply actions  

I might have to agree with Brad Edwards (BCS expert)

If OU beats Mizzou, we’re officially done. Doesn’t matter if OU wins by a FG in triple OT. UT will lose some of the voters they had since they didn’t win the Big 12 championship. Those votes will go to OU and Florida (if they win).

The voters will not rally behind Texas, and the computer deficit would only grow regardless with OU beating another ranked team on a “neutral” field.

Root for Mizzou. That’s it.

by goingforthecorner on Nov 30, 2008 4:57 PM CST reply actions  

Exactly.....

It will be just ANOTHER team that UT beat that OU beat as well.

And more likely better.

by TexasSooner on Nov 30, 2008 5:02 PM CST up reply actions  

What was that?

I’m sorry, please refresh my memory I seem to suffer from the same memory loss that OU and BCS voters have, what was the score between Texas and OU this year?

by bevo4president on Nov 30, 2008 5:06 PM CST up reply actions  

And another one you've obviously forgotten

39-33

The game and score that kept UT from Miami…..

by TexasSooner on Nov 30, 2008 5:19 PM CST reply actions  

Dude, just go away.

Go gloat somewhere else and for once in your life, leave us alone. You deserve to be where we are and to feel our pain, but are you doing that? No. So go somewhere else and brag about getting what you don’t deserve.

"Either we need to re-calibrate our rectangle, or Alfonzo Marquez is not having a good night." - Josh Lewin

by utlonghorn24 on Nov 30, 2008 5:26 PM CST up reply actions  

You know....

I cannot wait until he goes into hiding whenever stoops chokes another one, He is as classless and degenerate as any other person in Oklahoma (Ive got relatives there). If things go their way, hallelujah, but, it goes bad, uh oh, I dont exist

by future_longhorn_dad on Nov 30, 2008 5:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Too bad we don’t have crackhead Switzer and Stoops on our side making our case, otherwise we would be going to Miami. You should be enjoying your “victory” because honestly biased voters is the only reason you guys are going, not because of talent. We already showed you in October who was the superior team.

by bevo4president on Nov 30, 2008 5:31 PM CST up reply actions  

You do have a voice

You had Mack accepting an interview to make your case during the OU-OSU game and you hired a plane to fly a banner during the pregame. Classy.

by D3R3K on Nov 30, 2008 6:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Guys, just laugh at the kind of crap these guys and TexasSooner post. For you can be guaranteed that they have a pathetic existence to be trolling other teams’ sites. The only reason anyone that isn’t a piece of trash does that is to either appreciate something about those teams or to educate themselves in some manner – and clearly these clowns don’t fall into that category. Seriously – just laugh. So they gamed the system and won, or want to insinuate it was wrong to remind the voters of the RRS score (that particular guy is likely a Tech fan sad that the fairy tale is over).

Just take a knee and take the real high road. Or hit ignore. Too bad we can’t just implement some minimum IQ score requirement for people to post on this site – then we could keep the Sooner, Aggs, and Tech trolls from even being able to post here.

by burntOC on Nov 30, 2008 7:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Alright, we lost...

The humans decided that defense doesnt count, and even though you lose in october, if you score enough points, you can impress anybody.

Lets start talking about Fiesta, looks like it could be Ohio State or ??? Lets talk about not only showing which team in the Big 12 south can actually win a BCS game, but also sending a message throughout the system that Texas is the real deal and this year is nothing compared to what we can expect next year.

by future_longhorn_dad on Nov 30, 2008 5:26 PM CST reply actions  

posted this at the sooners blog

all 3 teams had the same regular season record, so take out all games that weren’t between ut, ou, and tech
now im gonna rank the wins and losses, and give 3 points to the best winner/loser, 2 points to the second best winner/loser, and 1 point to the worst winner/loser

WINS
1. OU over Tech-no disputing it, they won by 44
2. UT over OU-win by 10 points on a neutral field, solid win
3. Tech over UT-last second win at home

LOSSES
1. UT to Tech-lost on the last second on the road
2.OU to Texas-lost by double digits at a neutral field
3. Tech to OU-they got demolished

SCORES
1A. UT-4 points
1B. OU-4 points
3. Tech-2 points

Due to being last, Tech is eliminated.
Then, you go to head-to-head between the two teams left.
45-35
Texas over OU
and none of those points are disputed

by amr512 on Nov 30, 2008 5:31 PM CST reply actions  

Last second win. . .

Yes Tech did come back and win, but they also spanked Texas in the first half and led for the majority of the game. If not for the picking up the flags for blocking in the back on the punt return by Shipley, the game would not have come down to a last second finish.

by D3R3K on Nov 30, 2008 6:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Tech did get spanked by OU, no denying that.

by D3R3K on Nov 30, 2008 6:09 PM CST up reply actions  

I have not forgotten

That game had some of the worst officiating I have ever seen.

by D3R3K on Nov 30, 2008 6:41 PM CST up reply actions  

you did...

..b/c you had to wait for someone to call it out before acknowledging it.

by vy til i die on Nov 30, 2008 9:10 PM CST up reply actions  

I Feel your Pain

Being a Fan of the Pac10, i feel the your pain Texas fans. I feel the Pac 10 has been screwed by this system on multiple occasions and i am not here to argue about that… but there is no way in hell no matter what the system… that Texas should be ranked below Oklahoma. You guys have the same records, and Texas Beat OU. Any systems human or Comptuer that can’t figure that out shouldn’t be used for matters like this. At some point people need to stop over analysing and just use some common sense.

Once Again I am sorry, but hopefully there is a way you guys can get into the championship game and screw over Florida, because once the SEC is unhappy real change will hapen, since everyone believe they are the begining and end of college football. Just hope for Chaos.

by Pac10Guy on Nov 30, 2008 6:07 PM CST reply actions  

Computer rankings

I wonder how the people who run the computer rankings feel about today’s results. Did they really intend for a slight difference in strength of schedule to override a head-to-head result? It will be interesting to see whether they revise their systems to correct for the error.

Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. If they get mad, you're a mile away AND you have their shoes.

by Caradoc on Nov 30, 2008 6:20 PM CST reply actions  

I also wonder

if they will consider adding a head to head variable in their stat crunching. If that variable already exists, maybe they should increase the value of it.

by goingforthecorner on Nov 30, 2008 7:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Can't help but feel responsible...

My wife went to Florida and I think this may have been God’s way of preserving our marriage by preventing florida and Texas meeting for the MNC. Anyway, since I think Mizzou beating ou is too good to reasonably hope for, here’s my dream scenario:
1. Florida beats Alabama (since I don’t think bama would beat ou)
2. Fueled by a trophy sized-chip on our shoulder, we hang a beat-down on utah, boise st, osu, or whoever plays us in the Fiesta.
3. OU is humiliated on a national stage bu UF, prompting many to wonder, why didn’t we send Texas again?
4. We carry the planet-sized chip on our shoulder into next season laying waste to every team in our path.

OU sucks

by SaintBevo on Nov 30, 2008 6:55 PM CST reply actions  

and then we run the score up classlessly in every game...

seems that’s what voters want out of their college football…

by Pflash on Nov 30, 2008 7:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Style>Actual Score

"The more I thought about it, the more sense it made. I want to be at Texas." -- Will Muschamp

by UrbanDad on Nov 30, 2008 7:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Best opponent for texas?

Lets face it, a 12-1 record is impressive but we dont want to end this season playing Ball St or some crappy team in a bowl game. Best opponents in order

1. Florida/Alabama loser (pref florida)
2. Boise St
3. Ohio St
4. Utah (beat michigan by 2? are you kidding me??? non conf was a joke)

by MJY6087 on Nov 30, 2008 8:37 PM CST reply actions  

you say...

you don’t want a crappy team and BSU is your number 2? I personally think that OSU is better than them w/ Pryor. I don’t even know if Boise St is going to get in, they might let Tech be an exception.

I don’t really care who we play as long as we can beat em soundly. Look at the hype Georgia got for being “hot” and then whooping a sorry Hawaii team.

by vy til i die on Nov 30, 2008 9:15 PM CST up reply actions  

BSU Is not a crappy team in my opinion, look at the numbers they put up. Boise st is a sound team with a good qb.

by MJY6087 on Dec 1, 2008 8:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Barry Switzer is a big douchebag!

and I could’ve won the ‘94 Super Bowl with that Cowboys team….sorry, just hadn’t heard anybody hate on him in a while….

by SneezyBeltran on Dec 1, 2008 1:33 AM CST reply actions  

Agree

I was watching and the smirk on Switzer’s face was disgusting. I still remember him taking about how OU’s bigger line was going to trample West Virginia and Boise St. I loved. He had no rational defense of OU being there. He is saying they are the hotter team and keeps mentioning scoring 60 points but refuse to mention how mediocre their defense is.

by PrimeTime2012 on Dec 1, 2008 4:57 PM CST up reply actions  

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