A Letter Of Apology To Texas Fans
by ccmachine on Nov 30, 2008 10:37 PM CST
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Hey gang,
CCMachine here, I just wanted to drop by and say congrats on a great season. I realize that this could sound like congratulations in jest but please trust me that it isn’t. While I’ll never apologize for Oklahoma playing in the Big 12 Championship Game I will offer a sincere apology for the circumstances in which the Sooners were selected. I didn’t think that it was a fair situation for any of the teams involved.
I was in the Cotton Bowl when the Longhorns beat OU and made no excuses for the loss then nor do I now. In fact, I walked out of the State Fair shocked at how physical Texas was. I’ll give the Longhorns every ounce of credit that they deserve and say that you guys have a very solid case and every right to be mad as heck.
Let me also say that I appreciate your visits to Crimson and Cream Machine and have enjoyed most of the comments left by Texas fans. As long as there is Oklahoma and Texas there will be banter between the two and I can’t help but think how much this is going to add to the rivalry next October.
OU isn’t at fault for the decisions made and neither are the fans. The system is what it is and has been in place since 1995 I guess. Everyone knew what the possible scenarios were and agreed to them long ago. I know that doesn’t make anything better but it does show that there isn’t any blame to put on Oklahoma’s shoulders. All they did was finish the season strong.
I know that you will all be rooting for the Tigers Saturday night and I wouldn’t expect anything different. I just wanted to stop by and say that as a member of your hated rival I am sorry for the way things went down today. Why I don’t totally agree with everything that comes from your camp I certainly understand your beef.
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Not all of us are bad
Just like not all of you guys are bad. It is the ones on the fringe that ruin what could be some sort of civil discussion between the two fan bases.
I’d also like to congratulate you guys on your season.
Boomer Sooner!
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by Jubanator14 on Nov 30, 2008 10:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
quick question...
.can you recruit Randyy? I don’t know if he’s knows of your site, but he sure does like to troll over here. Please?
by vy til i die on Nov 30, 2008 11:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I've got a couple at CC Machine as well
Maybe we can work out a swap!
by ccmachine on Nov 30, 2008 11:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Jub Jub?
is that you? Cannonball Dunham? Captain Erection?
by 6th street on Dec 1, 2008 2:07 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I hate you like I hate my brother, sir.
Aggy on the other hand…
by HornPossessed on Nov 30, 2008 10:45 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Appreciate it ccmachine
proud to swim home
by learned hand on Nov 30, 2008 10:59 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Great seasons, both of us
OU and Texas may very well be the two best teams in the country (although I think Florida is good and I think too many people are sleeping on undefeated Alabama). Unfortunately, the current system is what it is. We don’t blame OU, but we’re obviously still very frustrated.
by TheElusiveShadow on Nov 30, 2008 10:59 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
It's a pity ...
… that there is no playoff system. It would’ve been a real treat to see Texas, OU, Florida, Alabama, and USC duke it out. The current dilemma now is whether to root for the Big 12 Champ (most likely OU even if Bradford sat out) or the SEC champ.
by boommotherfcker on Nov 30, 2008 11:41 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
My apologies to Oklahoma fans
But I cheered for OU once already, when they played Tech. I probably won’t be cheering for them again any time soon.
"Stats are for losers, I like winning games."
by bendj on Nov 30, 2008 11:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Great Post
There is nothing like Sportmanship between to heated Rivals. You sir are a gentleman, and I would like to thank you for the apology. Let’s keep in mind that OU and Texas are the 2 best teams in the nation, and no matter how much we don’t like each other, we SHOULD respect the other team.
I am a Horn fan, and am not happy which way the BCS debacle played out, but OU should be given some credit. They are a great team.
Hook em!
by mccoy12 on Nov 30, 2008 11:49 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Finally some Sooner class on the blog.
I appreciate the post. It reminds me of Nebraska fans-none classier then Huskers from what I hear.
by mtntrance on Nov 30, 2008 11:54 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
WATCH A GAME IN LINCOLN.
NEBRASKA FANS SUCK. GO ANYWHERE IN THE SEC THOSE ARE THE BEST FANS IN AMERICA. BESIDES THE BON OF COURSE!
by LEMILES on Dec 1, 2008 1:38 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
QUITE FRANKLY EVERYTHING LEMILES SAYS IS IMPORTANT
Boomer Sooner!
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by Jubanator14 on Dec 1, 2008 2:49 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Its good to hear this from a sooner fan.
While you can argue all you want to about “style points” or SOS, Texas was the better team that day. And in my opinion if two teams are so closely divided, by .013 points to be exact, then the head to head match up should be the determining factor. But like you said we knew this was the situation before it ever unfolded.
That being said, I have talked to a few Sooner fans since the release of the BCS and none of them are very logical at all, everyone can say that the system is flawed. You can make points for either team to go.
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by blazzinken on Dec 1, 2008 5:03 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Congrats to all
Longhorns, Sooners, Raiders, and yes even Cowboys……………the best teams in the nation. Regardless of which bowl each go to, lets kick the crap out of who we play.
one last word…………..Texas is the second best college team in Texas.
by blackbeard on Dec 1, 2008 7:46 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Play us in a neutral field
And see what happens to the Red Raiders. Geez. Red Raider fans still can’t fathom that they were brought back down to earth. You will never be on Texas’ and OU’s level.
by TheElusiveShadow on Dec 1, 2008 8:55 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
CCM is correct about okies not having to apologize
It’s the ridiculous conference rules.
We basically decided to let a bunch of people who never watched any Big 12 games (let alone that much college football) determine who our champion is.
It would have been more rational (although I would be just as aggrieved) for the Big 12 commish to come out and arbitrarily pick one of the three teams to rep the south.
by DogTown on Dec 1, 2008 8:17 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Well written, and much appreciated sir.
Very classy, which is something I just can’t say for the majority of Sooner fans I come across. Your letter is well-received by this disappointed Longhorn today.
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by utlonghorn24 on Dec 1, 2008 9:24 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Classy!!
Thanks man!! I was really hurting last night when I heard news!! I’m feeling little better today!! Go Mizzou!!!
by TexasStateHorn on Dec 1, 2008 9:38 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Very classy!
Thanks a lot man…..classy fans….rare to find these days…
by thebrat on Dec 1, 2008 9:40 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
However
put the shoe on the other foot. (OU won in Dallas, but Texas gets the nod). No way, no chance in hell does Poops not go ballistic. His rant would be all over the t.v. and internet about how OU beat Texas on a neutral field. I think Poops just had a myocardial infarction from his insane rage over how Texas is going to K.C. over OU. You know it, I know it, Poops knows it.
Poops – arrogant, SOB with no class. When Poops was asked how Texas can make an argument for K.C. he said “they beat us.” Period. Done. Game settled on a neutral field. Done. No….ah, ah….shut your mouth. Done. SETTLED… ON…..A….NEUTRAL….FIELD. Game over.
….isn’t that what us fans always clamor about??!?! “Put two teams on a neutral field and let them decide it.” Guess what?? THEY ALREADY DID.
by UTHorns on Dec 1, 2008 11:05 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Small point of contention
I know the point you were trying to make, but I’m fairly certain that this system has not been around since 1995.
1. The Big XII started in 1996.
2. The BCS didn’t exist yet in ’95 or ’96.
**Now I am extremely curious to know when the Big XII updated the rules for a 3-way tie scenario such as this. What was the 5th tie-break in the first few years of existence?
by Shake on Dec 1, 2008 11:21 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
The Big 12 was formed in 1995
and began to play as a conference in 1996. However all the rules and such were developed in `95.
by ccmachine on Dec 1, 2008 11:50 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I begrudgingly congratulate you and the Sooners...
… We can argue all day about which team has the better resume and who deserves to go and just go in circles. The fact is that OU is playing in the Big XII Championship Game, and while I may not believe that they’re MOST deserving of being there, I definitely believe that they (to some degree) DO deserve to be there. They are an outstanding football team that had an outstanding season, and even the most orange-blooded of us cannot disagree with that.
If they lose to Missouri, I will not shed a tear because it would open the door for Texas. If they beat Missouri, I will not shed a tear because I drool at the thought of OU-Florida for all the marbles (I certainly wouldn’t mind Alabama, either).
With that said, do us a favor and lose this Saturday night ;)
by Sweed4Heisman on Dec 1, 2008 11:33 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Pardon me....
but kiss my ass. I have a hard time congratulating a Sooner team that UT beat.
Just let your souuuuuul glo, baby....feeling oh so silky smooth...
by TNHorn on Dec 1, 2008 12:03 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Refreshing Indeed !!!
I appreciate your candor and knowledge BUT really admire your analysis of ou going to the Big 12 Championship… WE knew it would come to this. I am amazed at the change in the human polls for Texas. If TTech had not dropped down so far the Head to Head comments would not be in the argument. The SEC, Mid-Atlantic, ACC, and ??? ALL use this as THEIR final tie-breaker. I think in part that is why the Coaches and Harris polls changed so much. The Big 12 voted differently to go with the computers… Wish we had not!!! Good season ou! Please, do not beat Mizzou…
HOOK ’EM HORNS
COLT for Heisman!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by texas-exgal on Dec 1, 2008 5:11 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Wow as a sooner fan I will not apologize
I hate that the BCS decided things. But Texas was on the outside looking in ever since Tech beat them.
I have no problem with having a three way tie broken when the lesser of the three (Tech), is thrown out of the equation, giving Texas the win, providing that Tech was NOT thrown out because of the better play of Oklahoma!
Texas did great in the polittics, and I cant blame you, or Mack Brown because that was the system.
Nothing has really changed though, Texas is still on the outside looking in. This week the weather might be awful in Kansas. Who knows Texas may be the ones with all the luck in the end. So I guess I will apologize, if you guys will apologize if OU loses this week? Is that a deal?
by Randyy on Dec 1, 2008 6:45 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
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