new Sagarin ratings
Texas holds at 2.
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbt08.htm
it will be interesting to see how much our computer lead over OU will decrease and how much our human poll gap will decrease as the next 3 weeks play out. its going to be very very close.
i dont understand why it takes them so long to publish the damn rankings. i feel like ive been refreshing over and over all morning.
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my bad. holds at 3. ELO CHESS has us at 3 behind Tech 1 and Bama 2. OU at 5.
Predictor shows us dropping to 4 with OU holding at 5.
how can we be penalized
for losing to the soon to be #1 team in the country on the last play of the game at night at Lubbock?
"There aint nothin' over till it's over. "
~Rocky Balboa
I am certain that Sagarin
does not take into account dropped interceptions at the end of the game or what number is on the clock when one team scores the go ahead victory. It does take into account MOV, or at least his PREDICTOR computer does. ELO CHESS does not.
what do you mean?
penalized where?
in addition, i think its interesting to note that Sagarin shows Florida at 6 with a significant gap behind us. Tech and Us are the only teams with any wins over top 10 teams, and that is a huge benefit to us that should not change. It will be hard for Florida to overcome the bad loss to Ole Miss with only one possible top 10 win remaining for them, even though they have the benefit of a similarly strong schedule strength.
When I say penalized
I am talking about the polls in general. We fell to #7 in the USA today poll for losing to tech.. Thats what I mean by penalized…
And after all, we didn’t lose to Ole miss or oregon state for that matter.
"There aint nothin' over till it's over. "
~Rocky Balboa
dont worry. it will correct itself.
i expect that when the harris and coaches polls come out here shortly, we’ll see a correction moving us closer to OU, if not ahead. media was very vocal about this all week. see the quotes below.
I suppose I could have followed the lead of the voters in the coaches polls and dropped the defeated Longhorns below the Sooners (by three spots, no less) — but that’s just plain idiotic. Have the Sooners gotten that much better and/or the ’Horns that much worse in the three weeks since Texas beat Oklahoma? Since that game, the ’Horns have beaten two other highly ranked foes and lost on a last-second touchdown to another. I highly doubt it.
- Stewart Mandel, CNNSI
How they combined to plummet Texas from first to seventh after losing at the last second on the road to an undefeated team is unfathomable. The punishment is cruel and unusual — except that this sort of stupidity tends to be business as usual in the coaches’ poll. Consider who the Longhorns fell behind: Oklahoma, a team they beat by 10 points on a neutral field.
- Pat Forde, ESPN
According to the AP poll, Texas is ranked fifth and Oklahoma sixth. Of course, that doesn’t matter because the AP rankings are irrelevant. The two polls that actually influence the world have it embarrassingly wrong and without any possible reasoning. By what possible justification is Texas, who beat the Sooners 45-35, ranked seventh in the Coaches’ Poll while Oklahoma is fourth? According to the Harris Poll, Oklahoma is fifth and Texas sixth.
- Pete Fiutak, CFN
Not enough love – No. 4 Texas. Seriously, how can you drop the Longhorns three spots with a last-second loss on the road to a team that was No. 7 in the BCS? Have we all forgotten, you know, the wins over No. 6 Oklahoma, No. 9 Oklahoma State and No. 14 Missouri? Only Florida—No. 13 Georgia, No. 16 LSU and Miami—can come close to those wins.
- Matt Hayes, Sporting News
in addition, Herbstreit went off on this yesterday, and Todd McShay and Mel Kiper on ESPN radio as well.
couldn't say it better!
if ou gets a BCS game over texas, Texas needs to boycott the bowl game this year.
Agreed
However, the only way OU gets a BCS game over us is if they beat Tech, represent the South and win the conference. In that case, we would get an at-large over Tech by virtue of being ranked ahead of them (probably 3 or 4 spots in the polls and BCS averages).
If Tech beats OU, the at-large spot is ours to lose.
I'm no doctor.
Pretty much spot-on.
"Either we need to re-calibrate our rectangle, or Alfonzo Marquez is not having a good night." - Josh Lewin
How does USC end up at #1
… on the Predictor ratings, when they have #57 Stanford, #53 Notre Dame and #93 left to play??
Still a Blaine Irby fan
by patienthornsfan on Nov 9, 2008 12:31 PM CST reply actions
MOV
margin of victory. read his page on what factors into the predictor calculation. basically, even though the teams USC plays suck, they’re blowing them out. so that factors in. kinda goofy.

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