Is it possible for us to miss a BCS game all together?
by Not Now Chief on Nov 9, 2008 11:43 AM CST
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PrintSay OU wins out, obviously meaning they take care of TT and Okie Lite, and now they are sitting at 11-1. TT loses to OU but takes care of Baylor and they are sitting at 11-1. We win out as well and are at 11-1.
So we have a 3 way tie at the top all 11-1. OU would go to the Big 12 CCG and face Mizzou. Assume they win and they go to to play for the MNC. At that point the Big 12 would have one more opportunity to have a team in the remaining BCS games.
So here is the question...would we get passed over for the last remaining spot in favor of TT? Rememer, only 2 teams from the same conference can get BCS invites. Given how the media has absolutley fallen in love with TT I could def. see them wanting to place them in something like the Rose bowl against USC.
Not sure how the rest of you feel, but to me this is def. a real possibility...
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very real
just posted the same comment on awiggo’s post about the coaches poll.
one of Texas, OU, and Tech will play in the Cotton Bowl. very real possibility that it could be an 11-1 team. crazy.
Now that penn state lost,
a big 12 team will not go to the rose bowl, unless penn state were to lose another 2 game.
Fiesta's Decision
Under your scenario the Fiesta would lose a Big XII team to the national title game, so they would get to pick a replacement team. The would most likely still want at Big XII team and would have to decide between Tech and Texas. Do they go with tradition and a fanbase or do they go with the team that won head-to-head? It’s their call.
--AW--
Last year...
… the Orange Bowl was faced with the same decision. They chose Kansas over Missouri even after Missouri won the regular season matchup. However, Missouri was fresh off of a loss to OU in the Big XII title game. In the scenario above, Tech would have lost two weeks before the final day of the season as opposed to on the last day of the season like Missouri did. Also the Orange Bowl selection committee may have different ideas from the Fiesta Bowl committee as to deciding which team to pick.
This is just further proof that the BCS needs to get rid of the provision that one conference can only have 2 BCS berths.
by Sweed4Heisman on Nov 9, 2008 2:10 PM CST up reply actions
I don't think there is a chance
Texas will end up #3 in the BCS and get an auto bid. Even if the pollsters put tech one spot ahead of texas, tech will be much farther behind in the computers due to playing two d1aa teams.
Here is the rule
5. If any of the 10 slots remain open after application of provisions 1 through 4, and an at-large team from a conference with an annual automatic berth for its champion is ranked No. 3 in the final BCS Standings, that team will become an automatic qualifier, provided that no at-large team from the same conference qualifies for the national championship game.
Thanks for that
I knew there had to be SOME sense of logic somewhere in the BCS rules, and the one-loss Texas – Tech scenario this year proves the logic of this particular rule. As hard as it was to watch us lose that game in Lubbock, it would be even more gut-wrenching to get passed over for Tech when it comes to picking the 2nd Big XII BCS team.
Still a Blaine Irby fan
by patienthornsfan on Nov 9, 2008 12:01 PM CST up reply actions
so
if texas is 3 and tech is 4, we get the auto bid and they get screwed. if by some stretch its reversed, we’d get screwed. meaning the fiesta wouldnt have any say one way or another. they’re bound to take the 3rd place team.
Have to love the BCS
we’re going to get screwed I can feel it
by Not Now Chief on Nov 9, 2008 12:09 PM CST up reply actions
Don't even have to worry about it
If Tech loses any of their remaining two (or three) games, there is no way they end up ahead of us in the BCS unless we also lose one of our remaining games.
Look at the human polls. Texas is already behind OU in the Coaches poll, and there’s no way USC could move ahead of us with games against lowly Stanford, Notre Dame and UCLA left on the slate. If Tech loses to OU, they will almost certainly fall to 5 or 6, behind Texas – in spite of the victory in Lubbock.
And in the computer polls, Tech would fall even further behind the Horns.
Still a Blaine Irby fan
by patienthornsfan on Nov 9, 2008 12:21 PM CST up reply actions
that can be the assumption
but no one really knows. what would happen the week after that if OU then lost to OSU, and Tech was headed to the CCG? would they then jump back up ahead of us?
it will be very close and very unpredictable.
Remember Kansas got to the Orange Bowl Last year
So I’m thinking like this:
Tech Gets the Big12 Championship than its between us and OU, remember what OU has been doing in the BCS recently… they’re like the ohio state of the fiesta bowl so they’d prolly get passed over because sooners might be tired of going to pheonix.
Additionally if OU gets the Big12 Championship, the bowls pick btw the fanbase, tradition and brandname of Texas.
If Kansas gets picked for the orange bowl over Mizzou last year I don’t see how we get in. On the otherhand, if Mizzou didn’t get in last year anything could happen.
by Longhorn@Berkeley on Nov 9, 2008 1:08 PM CST reply actions
wrong
read some of the other threads.
if tech gets to the CCG, then its because they beat OU. That would give OU 2 losses and put them behind us, even if they beat OSU on the road.
IF OU goes to the CCG, and then to the national championship, then it will come down to where we and Tech are ranked respectfully in the BCS. All teams in the top 4 of the BCS are automatic qualifiers, as long as there arent already 2 teams from their conference qualified.
So OU is 1 or 2 (with Fla the other), and we are 3 and tech 4, we would auto qualify. If Tech is 3 and we are 4, then we are left out.
likely
wont come down to picking one big 12 team over another, as there are likely to be at least 2 big 12 teams in the top 4, one in the NCG
How crazy is that
After all of the talk after the OU/Texas game, all Oklahoma has to do is win out and they control their own destiny to the Nat’l Championship. It seems a lot like 2001 when we lost a heart breaker to OU and then they coughed it up late in the season allowing us the chance to win out and play Miami in the big game. But we all got Simmsed and Major couldn’t bring us back far enough in the second half against Colorado. This is depressing to remember.
No matter what...
An 11-1 team from the big12, either Tech, Texas, or OU will not get into the BCS bowl and will play in the Cotton Bowl. At least, this might stir up a huge controversy to ultimately change the system in place right now.
I predict that it’s quite likely that Tech will lose to OU but win out, & OU will win the Big12 due to the rankings. OU faces two ranked teams(#2 Tech & #13 OK State) in the upcoming weeks while TX gets Kansas and A&M.
Some how, A&M still screws us over—- this time for sucking so badly.
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