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Official: Colt is Heisman Finalist

I hope he has fun in New York and hope he brings the hardware home!

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by run Bevo run on Dec 10, 2008 5:42 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No Harrell?

To me, Tech is like a bratty younger cousin. For most of the year, I generally wish them well. But once a year, when it comes to pass that I actually spend time with them, they remind me of why they annoy me so damn much. This year especially.

I sure don’t think Harrell deserves the Heisman as much as Colt – but I have to admit I’m a little disappointed that he didn’t get an invite. He’s basically assured of setting the passing TD record and had a hell of a season, even for a “program quarterback.” I didn’t watch much of Hawaii last year, but from what I’ve seen, he’s got to be better than Brennan.

by Jonny Horn on Dec 10, 2008 7:18 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Colt's too good for the Heisman

Yesterday I got an email from a guy who is putting together what bacially amounts to a blog poll for the Heisman asking me to defend Colt McCoy’s claim on the prestigeous award.

Frankly, I was a little offended because McCoy doesn’t need me or anybody else to defend his worth. You can look at the stats and the records and make your own determination. Nothing against Tebow, Harrell,and Bradford, they’re all worthy candidates. But McCoy in my mind is the embodiment of everything the award ever hoped to personify. He put his team on his shoulders and said pundits and critics be damned, this is our season, we’ll dictate the outcome. We control our destiny. And the establishment resented him for it.

Still, he made good on his promise. Texas, despite what some may say, is not a sexy team. For the first time in Mack’s tenure, they couldn’t simply out-talent their strongest opponents like they’d done in the past, nor did they.

I’m not a stats guy, but I’d like someone to compare our 3rd down conversions this season to past years because I’m willing to bet UT converted more crucial 3rd downs this year than ever before. The key to UT’s success this year was sustaining drives. And many times, that was all Colt – if not through the air, then on foot. Simply put, he used what he had to get the job done and made no excuses along the way.

McCoy’s 77% completion percentage and some 670+ yards on the ground weren’t just impressive, they were crucial to UT’s success. Without them, Texas doesn’t win the close ones nor puts away the not-so close ones. Even still, those performances speak for themselves.

What bothers me the most is the fact that if Gideon catches that ball in Lubbock or the Texas D secures the win against the Red Raiders, we’re not even having this conversation. And if the Big XII, in their myopic petulence, has a tie breaking system that rewards valor on the field rather than exploits public perception, McCoy remains front and center for the superficial voting ranks to fawn over.

This isn’t an indictment of the BCS, but instead an accusation against college football, an entity that rewards the fortunate and chique at the expense of the truly deserving. Such is life and despite protest and indignation, life moves on.

On Saturday night, I hope justice perserveres and Colt McCoy is awared the Heisman Trophy. But if fortune doesn’t smile on the true, then I say, “to hell with the Heisman, let’s celebrate the man, Colt McCoy.”

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by 54b on Dec 10, 2008 10:06 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Also for the stats guru.

I would also like to see the percentage of total offense each of the other two candidates had for their team. Am I crazy to think Colt’s would be around 60%?

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by run Bevo run on Dec 10, 2008 11:36 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Crazy?

No. Try 68% of the team’s offensive yardage. Bradford has 61%.

by danielt on Dec 10, 2008 11:47 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Telling isn't it?

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by run Bevo run on Dec 11, 2008 12:25 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Should we look at that in comparison with the usual Tech QB?

When people write off a Tech QB as a system guy, I’ve seen counterarguments made where the Tech QB is compared to other Tech QBs. Harrell obviously outperformed his counterparts, but I would bet that he didn’t account for as much offense (percentage-wise) as his counterparts did, just because Leach likes to run the ball now. I wouldn’t be surprised to see other Tech QBs with %‘s in the 80’s or so.

Yes, that means we should look at other QB’s compared to their peers in the same system, but there hasn’t really ever been a Colt system before.

by Horn Brain on Dec 11, 2008 1:26 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Harrell was about 82% in 2007
Harrell was about 78% in 2006
Cody Hodges was about 71% in 2005
Sonny Cumbie was about 80%
BJ Symons was about 76%

Etc., that should give you a pretty good idea of how much our quarterbacks carry this offense. Low end is Harrell this year, high end is Sonny Cumbie in 2004, almost entirely dependant on how often and how well we’re running the football.

Both your assumptions are correct. Harrell outperformed his counterparts in QB rating and the basic statistic smell test (TD:Int is a good place to begin) but we ran the ball more this year than we had in year’s prior.

I don’t know how useful it is to talk about what percentage of offensive yards a QB is responsible for given how much that depends on things like the existence of Jamaal Charles or the willingness of a coach to run the ball. I’m just producing numbers. I doubt whether % of offensive production is really a valuable metric for determining who the Heisman should or should not be, as I’m sure we’re capable of finding many bad or mediocre QBs (I do not know who Tulsa’s guy is, but I suppose he would do well in this thread) who participated more in the offens than either Harrell or McCoy. But if one is impressed by the degree to which an individual carries the offensive burden, between the three guys invited to NY and the guy left behind, he’s the one who has had the highest % of production and the highest % of plays.

I think that’s more of an MVP type argument (which CFB doesn’t have, to the best of my knowledge).

Bottom line is that Tebow, Bradford, and McCoy all have things going for them. Tebow and Bradford have lower int %s and higher YPAs, but McCoy has the better completion %. McCoy beats them both in rushing (surprisingly, because all it seems like the media is capable of discussing is how oftne Tim Tebow is at running the ball omgomgomgomg did he just score another 1 yard touchdown INCREDIBLE!!!!).

Should be interesting. I think they will ultimately end up picking Tebow or Bradford because the award is a joke and hasn’t all that much to do with performance. The CFB powers that be have never missed an opportunity to manufacture drama and only two of the heisman candidates get to play each other in a MNC.

If Colt doesn’t win the Heisman I will happily join any and all Texas fans in denouncing the entire affair as a fraud.

Go register. Or else.

by Skin Patrol on Dec 11, 2008 4:01 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think that’s more of an MVP type argument

What do you think the Heisman is? Other than a joke.

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by run Bevo run on Dec 11, 2008 8:38 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

A joke, but I always envisioned it as more of a Most Outstanding Player kind of thing. Typically that’s a player who mens a lot to his team, but not necessarily the most. Think about Darren McFadden… he got to go and it wasn’t 100% clear he was even the best RB on his own team. If it were purely an MVP type award, there’d be a lot of people like Tulsa’s QB this year included. Was Reggie Bush (nevermind that he didn’t deserve it) even the MVP of USC? How can that be when his teammate is Matt Leinart?

Go register. Or else.

by Skin Patrol on Dec 11, 2008 12:07 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: 3rd Downs

Texas was 2nd in the country in 3rd down percentage (57.1) behind Tulsa (57.7). OU was 7th (51.6) and Florida was 13th (49.3).

Here’s our percentage of 3rd down conversions over the past few years…

2008: 57.1
2007: 47.7
2006: 41.8
2005: 51.2
2004: 43.5
2003: 42.3

Our 57.7% is not only 2nd in the nation this year, but it is the 2nd best% of the last 6 years as well. On a related note, kudos to Gus Malzahan for what he’s got cooking on 3rd downs in Tulsa.

by ctex80 on Dec 11, 2008 7:00 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Correction,

We’re 3rd in the last 6 years. Hawaii had 57.7 in 2006.

by ctex80 on Dec 11, 2008 7:16 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thank you for looking that up

57%, that’s unreal…and I think we all know those weren’t all 3rd and 2’s Colt was converting.

This stat is huge for me because UT doesn’t have a quick strike offense. Most of UT’s plays aren’t designed for big gains. And before the season started, a lot of fans wondered where the points were going to come from this year because we didn’t have the offensive “play-makers” we’d had in the past. But we won because Colt figured out how to take advantage of what the defense would give him. (Probably ought to give Greg Davis some love too.)

And I’d be willing to bet a lot that if his 77% completion rate was closer to Bradfords (68%?), that 3rd down conversion number would be a hell of lot lower and so would UT’s point totals and average time of possession.

It’s a team sport and you can’t discount the contributions of Shipley, Quan, Ogby, and the O-line, but machine can’t run without Colt.

Can’t wait to see him take apart Ohio State and I can’t wait for next year.

Be nobody but yourself in a world that desperately wants you to be like everybody else.

by 54b on Dec 11, 2008 8:41 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ESPN Sucking Tebow's Appendage

It’s shameful that ESPNsec is shilling for Tebow. ESPN has a contract with the SEC is why. Grahm Harrell so much more deserving than Tebow, it’s not even debateable.
Here are the great passing stats this year for Tebow:

137
256
96
319
217
210
180
154
171
173
201
185
216

There must be dozens of QBs more deserving than Tebow!!!

Heres to you ESPN………….keep sucking

by CardeadinKy on Dec 13, 2008 6:24 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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