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Why do coaches of Other conferences Have a VOTE?

Here is the question that one of the commentators from the OU / OSU game asked. Why do you need coaches from other conferences need to vote?

I was thinking about it after the TTU / OU game which screwed us the most since OU made a lot of ground in those polls  ( If it was just the human poll then I am sure we would have been passed by OU).

I realized that most of these coaches  ( I may be wrong here) dont necessarily care about what happens with the other conferences. For e.g why on earth would Urban Meyers care about what is happening in the Big 12- uptill now. Specially with Head coaches who are not the Mack Brown- "old school" type where their actually care about what their vote means and does and play with dignity and sportsmanship attitude.

 Do you think these folks from other conferences actually  paid attention and made a sound judgement before casting their vote- or did they just go" hell the number two team got beat by more than 40 points" 

How many games we as fans watch and how many games we just look at the scores on espn and say " Man they got f***ed"- do we care or know the circumstances.

As I think coaches who understand the system are able to play the system to their advantage. We all know the circumstances in which the TTU and OSU games were played. Taking nothing from OU..in the end I realize Boob M$%%$%%^$^% Stoops ( this he deserves)- actually ran the scores up and then said" we just beat the number two team by 40 points and beat the team who has never lost a game at home this year by 20 points" In the end this would hold more weight compared to loosing the game at the final second of the game after a 4 game brutal stretch.  The question is what would resonate with the coaches who have not seen the game nor care to?- I am not saying this is a fair way or a unfair way- all I am saying that I would definately be uncomfortable with a system where people go by numbers rather than making excellent judgements looking at all aspects and variables. The new generation head coaches have evolved just like the game of college football has- from my perspective all this boils down to numbers- and total anhilation of a team " offensively" Not necessarily defensively"

Now in my view the winners are coaches who understand the system and play it at best to their advantage- who understand voter emotions and convincing have a upper hand in the 2/3 of the pie which is in the hands of humans!- I can think of prime examples Bob Soops and Urban Meyers- Coz these per what I remember are the only two teams in the recent times I know to have really bumped the scores- perhaps in one or two cases USC- I may be off track- could be second stringers too but do feel free to correct me if I am wrong.

I for one feel that only the coaches who are in the conference should be voting perhaps it may not make a difference statistically or it may not play well all across the board-

PS: I havent proof read this- so please spare tearing it apart!

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BCS vs Big 12

It’s the Big 12’s fault for deciding to use the BCS as a tie breaker as opposed to something else, like a vote of only the Big 12 coaches or ADs.

It’s not the BCS’s fault in this case. Their fault is the process of deciding who goes to the MNC and the fact we have a two team playoff instead of an eight team playoff.

by drycreek on Dec 2, 2008 12:28 PM CST reply reply   0 recs

well

Probably only Baylor and Kansas would vote for us

Everyone else either we didnt play or they hate us.

by vyvyvy on Dec 2, 2008 1:42 PM CST reply reply   0 recs

Fair System

The point is to come up with a fair system, not one that will necessarily always go our way.

How about the tiebrekaer goes to the school whose color most closely resembeld the color of dirt.

I think Colorado and Iowa State may also vote for us. And A&M should but we know they would not out of spite.

by drycreek on Dec 2, 2008 2:18 PM CST to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Colorado's coach voted for OU.

At least he said he did two weeks ago—they didn’t even play OU.

by ajax77777 on Dec 2, 2008 9:55 PM CST to parent up reply reply   0 recs

You are right!

Not because of they hate us, because of the Big 8 and SWC ties! The vote would go like this i would think.
OU TEXAS
NEBRASKA TEXAS A&M
KANSAS (MARK MANGINO) BAYLOR (ART BRILES He was former head of the Texas High School
KANSAS ST Football Coaches Associstion. He wont piss off Texas high school
OKLAHOMA ST coaches. You dont crap where you eat!)
COLORADO IOWA ST (GENE CHIZIK)
MISSOURI
TEXAS TECH (MIKE LEACH)

All these things I promise who would take effect so do not think you would have different results!

by LEMILES on Dec 2, 2008 2:33 PM CST to parent up reply reply   0 recs

sorry guys

i had it done in groups. they bunched it all together.
ou would get 1Neb, 2Kansas,3 Kansas St,4 OK St.,5 Colorado,6 Missouri,7 Texas Tech,8 OU.
Texas would get the rest. sorry about that guys.

by LEMILES on Dec 2, 2008 2:36 PM CST to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Votes for OU

I heard that both Leach and Mangino voted OU #1 and UT #5. Total hearsay, of course, but has anyone else seen the actual coaches votes?

by Johngo on Dec 2, 2008 2:39 PM CST reply reply   0 recs

just a rumor

Mangino doesn’t actually have a vote, so it can’t be him. That’s since been reported on various news outlets.

by junglerules on Dec 2, 2008 9:00 PM CST to parent up reply reply   0 recs


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