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A personal touch to the Fiesta Bowl

In the fallout from complaints of Texas fans over being abused during their trip to Columbus, two different campaigns were created.  Prior to the return visit from Ohio State, Texas launched the "Make Us Proud" campaign and Ohio State also implemented a campaign titled "Best Damn Fans in the Land."  The letters written from Texas fans received a fair amount of media coverage, which led to several "what did you expect?" and "it wasnt *that* bad" type responses from some Ohio State fans. 

While I never wrote a complaint to any OSU official, I was one of the Texas fans who received more than my fair share of abuse in Columbus.  After the jump, we look at how this Fiesta Bowl provides a unique opportunity for the Longhorns to win the rubber match against a school and fanbase that--to some extent--feels it should be up 2-0.  We also outline our own experience in Columbus, which has turned the Fiesta Bowl into something slightly more personal.

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Before we get started, a few disclaimers are necessary....

First, I know several Longhorns--and BON authors--who had pleasant experiences in Columbus.  They found their hosts to be good-natured and avoided any first-hand experiences of abuse.

Second, on that Gameday, there was a MASSIVE group of people, many of which had no direct affiliation to tOSU.  With some of my most egregious drunken tormentors, I was assured that they were just troublemakers who had just come out to be part of the experience.  However, I have no way to partition the fans bearing scarlet and gray as being "real", "fake", or whatever.  Several students did apologize to me on behalf of their friends.

Third, I have seen Texas fans (usually drunken students) abuse opposing fans.  However, this is usually minimized to actions in the stands and only on a few isolated occasions.  Nothing I've ever seen in Austin compares to my experience in Columbus, but I'm not claiming that we're all angelic fans.

With that out of the way, my trip to Columbus was marred by an endless string of verbal and physical abuse leading up to the game.  As we had to meet some friends on the other side of the stadium, we walked by thousands of OSU fans heading to the stadium.  During this walk, I was purposely shoulder-blocked three times, received a handful of unprovoked shoves (accompanied with invitations to engage in fisticuffs), and was greeted with a neverending stream of inyoface f-bombs and verbal abuse.  This wasn't all just fun and games, as many fans decided to get within inches of my face when yelling various obscenities.  On our way back towards the stadium, a large group of drunk OSU fans was walking behind me simply begging for me to turn around and say something.  I was called several synonyms for a certain portion of the female anatomy, and, when I finally turned around to ask them to please knock it off, the group freaked out with excitement in anticipation of a fight.  As there were three of us and over 10 of them, I told them that I wasn't going to fight them and was only trying to get to the game.  This led to another 1/4 mile of abuse, including trying to step on the heels of my shoes.  During this walk, I nearly ground my teeth into powder, as it was all I could do to restrain myself.  We also had a handful of items tossed in our direction, also accompanied with obscenities.

While I dont mind verbal abuse or taunts, nothing I experienced can be wiped away as "good ole fun" or "good natured taunting."  This was one of the lowlights of my life, and I felt embarrassed for their entire university.  It was pathetic and disgraceful. The worst part about the abuse is that it overshadowed the incredible wisdom, knowledge, and passion of their fanbase and the awesomeness of their stadium.  I mean, the OSU fans knew the Zone Read offense better than most of our fans and could explain the defensive strategy they would use to stop it.  However, instead of being able to tell my friends about the great knowledge and passion of the OSU fanbase, I found myself focusing the recaps of my trip on the abuse.

Until a certain VY touchdown against USC a few months later, the Limas Sweed catch was my favorite in-person experience as a UT fan.  The bitterness created by the abuse led to an incredible feeling of satisfaction when we walked out of the Horseshoe with a victory.  It has also led to my own personal vendetta against tOSU.  While I respect everything about their football program on the field--it's hard not to--the actions of their fans off the field in Columbus will prevent me from rooting for OSU anytime soon.  And, after the game, many of their fans came up to congratulate us on the victory, but solely with the caveat that Ryan Hamby cost them the game.  

And that's something that Texas fans are overlooking in the build-up to this game.  For many Texas fans, there is some unresolved bad blood from the first meeting.  I hope we win, I hope we win big, and this game has special meaning based on my day in Columbus.  This is a rare opportunity for Texas to firmly stamp themselves as the victor in a three-game series against one of the flagship programs in College Football.  Regardless of the National Title implications--which still exist--Texas should realize they will be measured against Ohio State based on their performance in this game.

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I’ve had several experiences with Buckeye fans that mirror yours. Fortunately, I was blessed with enough size (6’5’’-260) that physical fights were never discussed. My general opinion of Buckeye fans is similar to going to the dentist, sure you may get pretty teeth and have no cavities, but it doesn’t change the fact someone had their hands monkeying around in your mouth for the past hour and you can’t have that hour back.

Perhaps the most recognizable mascot in sports, and certainly the toughest looking, Bevo is a fixture

by run Bevo run on Dec 28, 2008 6:40 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Excellent post...

…and it mirrors the experience my wife and I had in C-Bus. I realize this is a broad and unfair generalization, but they are, without question, the most classless fans in the country (and, yes, that includes Sooner-Fan). Never in my adult life have I had such an enjoyable experience totally ruined by a bunch of hooligans. I cannot express how much I loathe this school, and hope we burn out the scoreboard. Hook ’Em.

"There are three kinds of people in this world: those who are good at math, and those who aren't..."

--GA Horn--

by GAHorn on Dec 28, 2008 7:10 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

OSU President

   Didn’t the OSU president on her way out state as much that the fan base was a pack of couch burning imbeciles?
   There is a youtube video that depicts much of what you experienced against Michigan.

by thirtyand0 on Dec 28, 2008 7:39 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

OSU fans

I lived the last 10 years in Lexington, KY, and it has made me a HUGE OSU hater. Being that close to Ohio, they’re fans are all over the city. Those punks grow up in the rich-kid suburbs around Columbus, (home to Brady Quinn) and come to The University of Kentucky, spending mommy and daddy’s money on cocaine. They spend Saturdays going to UK tailgate parties, and sports bars, telling anyone who can hear how good the Buckeyes are. In my opinion, they are the worst fans in all of sports. I hope Mack lets us finally run it up on someone.

by billytyra on Dec 28, 2008 7:56 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Totally similar experience

Have been going to away games as an alumni since “92 and never experienced anythin like the osu trip. These "fans” were throwing full beer cans, bottles, and trash at our group guys and gals as we walked to the stadium. I too felt embarassed for their university. Additionally, the amount and level of the verbal bs that went far crosssed the line of even what I have experienced at the ou game for the past 20 years combined. these folks were pure rude sob’s that deserve a good ass whoppin in arizona. I lost all respect for that school in sept 2005. As was said before, it was one of the most satisfying wins for the perspective alone. Upon leaving colombus we had many “adult” osu alums – presumably ones with actual jobs apologize to us profusely for their fans behavior. Go horns!

by 91horn on Dec 28, 2008 8:56 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Ditto

I went down to cbus for a couple games while at the U of Mich. Take all your description of cbus and multipy by 10x for the michigan game. cars parked in cbus with michigan plates are just about guaranteed to be keyed or have the tires slashed. one my buds who attended the game was black and we were barraged with the N* word, among worse insults. a heavy object will be thrown at your head some point before, during, or after the game. quite simply, a trip to columbus will ruin your faith in humanity.

by hkemblu on Dec 28, 2008 10:39 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Oh, how this gets my blood boiling again

I have a buddy who’s a buckeye and since we live in Michigan we thought it would cool to go to Columbus and Austin to see our alma maters battle. It is, in fact, with respect to him that this post will not run the gamut of vitriol and poisonous hatred, but I will attest that the treatment of OSU locals to visiting longhorns was a disgrace to the human race. Nothing short of animal behavior. My friend was shocked and embarrased seeing it from my viewpoint. The absolute bottom was seeing a team of drunken shitheads screaming obscenities at a family clad in orange. A family with two young kids. It didn’t fucking matter to those fucking scumbags. Screaming “fuck texas” to little kids. It’s a damn good thing I wasn’t armed at the time because surely I’d be in jail right now. I think the only reason I didn’t end up in various scuffles was simply because of my buckeye friend, and believe me they were riding him a bit too, for being around me. I will admit I was saved one time by one of their own, a young lady who, although she was also taunting me a bit in a good natured way, stepped in when a tall drunken punk really got in my face. Overall, if I really had to jog my memory, it wasn’t all bad. There were several people who came up to me and congratulated me afterwards. Others merely said I had alot of balls but if I were a UofM alum, things would be much worse (good god, how much worse could it be – and btw, where the fuck were the authorities in all this??). But in general this was the worst trip I’ve ever been on. My friend, in anticipation for the next year in Austin, asked me with certain trepidation whether he would get the same treatment down there and I answered, hell no, not in the slightest. Incidentally, he, and many other buckeyes that year fell in love with Austin and 6th street. What else would you expect. Anyway, I hate their school and I hope we beat the shit out of them next week.

by UT92 on Dec 28, 2008 11:28 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

There’s this kind of classless trash all over. We live in a suburb between Baltimore and DC, and wifey’s sister gave us tickets to see the Ravens host the University of Texas at Nashville Tennessee Titans for our July birthdays. While we didn’t get to see Vince play, we did get to see Michael Griffin, Bo Scaife, Ahmard Hall, etc. Wifey wore her Vince Young Titans jersey, and I of course wore my Vince Young Longhorns jersey. Anyway, as we were on our way to our seats, some over-tattooed uneducated Baltimore trash guy with a sideways visor spotted our Vince jerseys and started making the throat-slashing gesture, yelling “Piss poor, man, that’s piss poor! He can’t take the pro game! He wants to go kill himself. Wah!” I informed him that he ought to check his facts before parroting what he hears on ESPN.

Anyway, the ‘Horns Titans went on to win the game, and the fans around us were mostly tolerant of our jerseys and cheering, and we talked football with ’em. On the way out of the stadium, though, we had two separate Ravens fans bump us and yell out, “Just go kill yourself.” Keep takin’ the high road, fellas. Now you know why the rest of the country looks down on Baltimore.

by burntorangehorn on Dec 29, 2008 12:15 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Different perspective

First off, I am an OSU fan. I appreciate the criticism that’s been levied here against a lot of the ridiculous nonsense that a lot of Buckeye fans displayed in that game. It was a complete embarrassment, and a black eye for the reputation of Ohio State fans.

With that being said, I did experience some of the same at the game in Austin. Not near as bad as you recall, but I remember that same feeling of a great experience and great victory just feeling completely sour and tarnished. My dad and I went together and really had no problems before the game. The usual verbal taunts were thrown at us….but nothing we didn’t really expect.

The worst of it came after the game when we were walking back to our cars. A small group of Texas fans crowded around my Dad and I and pushed us around…yelling “F**You” within 3 inches of our faces. They threatened to kick our asses and told us to “go back to f***-in’ Ohio.”

Luckily for us, we were from Dallas, and were very familiar with Texas fans. I knew this wasn’t the norm. Half my family went to UT, and I’d been to my share of Texas games. I knew their fans were pretty harmless, and polite. Throughout most of the game, I was met with a lot of kind words and even more so after the game. A lot of “good game, guess we’re even” and so forth. The people sitting next to us were very nice.

Unfortunately, I do think what Texas fans experienced in Columbus was worse, but it’s sad that some bad apples ruin it for genuine fans. I also will give UT fans some slack, knowing that a lot of abuse OSU fans may have experienced in Austin could’ve been from retaliation from what occurred in Columbus. Anyways, thought I’d share my experiences. I’ve lived in Texas almost my entire life, and the ’Horns are always my second team. Good luck on Jan 4th.

by bgantz on Dec 29, 2008 1:36 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Thanks

For the counter-perspective. There are bad apples in every barrel, including our own. I do know that one of txtwstr’s motivations in writing this is to emphasize to fellow Texas fans why it’s so important we carry ourselves well.

Hook ’em

--PB--

by Peter Bean on Dec 29, 2008 4:01 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Jim Tressel’s sweater vest is by far the most egregious and insulting piece of Buckeye nation, but I will wholeheartedly agree that these are the most obnoxious and embarrassing a**clowns in all of college football fanhood.

I returned all of my Christmas gifts, and asked only that we beat the brakes off of them in the desert

by nmckenzie1 on Dec 29, 2008 2:04 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

I, too, am curious

where the police/authorities were in all of this?

I’ve never understood the “usual taunting”, either.

I think if you’re the home team and home fans, you want visitors to feel welcome and have a good time. You want them to enjoy the time before and after the game, b/c you hope they will be completely miserable during the game watching their team lose.

I don’t understand people who feel the need to talk crap before or after a game. I’d rather sit around and just talk football.

by Beergut on Dec 29, 2008 3:17 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Ohio State fans

are trash. They make excuses, play in a jv conference, and suck at life. Run the score up on their ass!!!!!!!!!

by billytyra on Dec 29, 2008 3:45 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Yea, we do have a lot of sucky fans. No denying that. Every fanbase has them.

I do laugh when I see fans complain of classlessness and foul doing only to see them say things like:

They make excuses, play in a jv conference, and suck at life. Run the score up on their ass!!!!!!!!!

It really sets a shining example for our nation. Really shows me how royal those Longhorns are. It was also highly entertaining to see those ever classy Longhorn fans cuss out an 18 year old kid for choosing another school besides his own. Very impressive, really shows me what we lack.

by gahnki on Dec 29, 2008 4:35 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

It looks like you’ve been baited by one of those bad apples in the UT fanbase barrel. Sorry about that. I understand.

Anyway, tOSU is a good program, and I can’t wait to see Texas beat them. This should be their last matchup for many years, and I want to have two out of three against ’em.

by burntorangehorn on Dec 29, 2008 9:49 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

“Yea, we do have a lot of sucky fans. No denying that. Every fanbase has them”

I lived in Ohio for 3 years (amongst many other places in the US). Ohio State has by FAR the worst fanbase in the country. They are belligerent, obnoxious, drunk idiots. There is not just a lot of “sucky fans”, there are TONS of them. And although every fanbase has a their problem fans, Buckeyes have thousands and thousands of them. (and yes, they have thousands of genuinely awesome fans…but they get drowned out by the drunken idiots so they go unnoticed often times).

Its really unfortunate for Ohio State, but if they really wanted to do something about it, they would. And the President giving statements and having “hospitality” ads is not enough. They need an extremely strong police presence at their games and outside in the community before and after games

It’s too bad for them. It’s not exactly what I would want to be “known” for.

by Checkmate on Dec 29, 2008 10:57 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

That is why I love bowl games where both fanbases have to travel

Because when faced with the price tag of partaking in said bowl game trip, most people whose primary directive is to heckle the other team’s fanbase with such clever quips as “f*ck you!” and “go back to (insert opposing team’s state here)” would in all likelihood decide to stay home.

"Stats are for losers, I like winning games."

by bendj on Dec 29, 2008 12:05 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Columbus Trip

We noticed the bad behavior by tOSU fans was proportional to your distance from the stadium. Our cab driver dropped us a few blocks from campus and we walked through an apartment area with a lot of parties – we did have one stick thrown at us, mostly a lot of “F you!” and random threats. At the few parties where there were some Texas fans tailgating, we dropped off small cigars for the host.

Once we got to (and inside) the stadium, it seemed there were an unusual number of people who asked us (without solicitation) if we had been mistreated and apologized. We were warned twice that if we did win that we should quickly return to our cars and not loiter while celebrating.

Ironically, at one of the “HeineyGate” parties pre-game many Big 10 fans were there – and all agreed that while tOSU fans were bad, they weren’t as bad as Wisconsin fans!

by LFAKevin on Dec 29, 2008 1:18 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

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