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"If it takes 56 points to get somebody to vote for you, folks, we got a bad system. We sit here and talk all the time about sportsmanship ... and then we throw it right out the window when we need to get to a game." -Mack Brown

It isn't over yet. What happens if Missouri beats Oklahoma?

The AP can still crown UT the national champion. Their poll sounds like a better deal.

One of the voters in the Haris Poll didn't bother to vote. (Let us hope it was the guy who wasn't paying much attention to college football this year.) Was this important for Texas?

Dr. Saturday ran the numbers and all Florida has to do is win to pass Texas.

Burnt Orange Beat has the top 125 Texas recruits for 2010. Someone needs to tell these boys that the University of Oklahoma is not an option.

 

 

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Dan Beebe, Big 12 Commissioner

Dan Beebe, the Big 12's fearless leader, had a lot to say about the current conference debacle.

"Any tiebreaker system is difficult and will leave teams disappointed," Beebe said. "When the tiebreaker was written I was not in the league but they wanted to put in the team that had the best chance to play in the national championship game."

"I'm not so sure that this isn't the best way to do it," Beebe said. "I understand the argument about head-to-head and it is a strong point, but as a lot of voters looked at it, and as the committees that select basketball tournament participants look at it, 'What team would you least want to play now?'"

"This was a perfect storm," Beebe said. "You can't create a rule that accounts for every scenario. To have teams ranked second and third, that margin is so thin."

The most insightful thing Beebe said?

"If you win all of your games you don't have to worry about this scenario."

Well, Dan, we could have figured that one out on our own.

Mark Kiszla, Denver Post, has a suggestion on how to solve the Big 12 spat.

If the Big 12 were truly interested in crowning its legitimate champ, then the league would pit the two highest-ranked squads in the BCS standings to end the season.

The Walter Camp Football Foundation finalists were announced. Oklahoma's Sam Bradford, Texas' Colt McCoy, Texas Tech's Graham Harrell and Michael Crabtree  and Florida's Tim Tebow are the finalists.

Mike Leach has been spotted on a flight to Seattle. But he said he was not leaving Tech. And his agent said he was not in Seattle. This always happens...

Missouri's Chase Daniel is ready for OU. He is also getting some good advice.

Daniel even invoked the vision of buddy and Texas quarterback Colt McCoy, with whom Daniel had a one-hour telephone conversation on Sunday after Oklahoma edged Texas in the BCS standings and claimed the South Division berth in the league title game.

"He was crushed," Daniel said. "He’s obviously pulling for us to win, and so are we. We’re pulling for ourselves to win."

The walking wounded. Missouri's Chase Coffman said his injured toe is about 80 percent.

"We all know what a healthy, 100 percent Chase Coffman is," coach Gary Pinkel said. "By the way, an 80 percent Chase isn't bad. Maybe he'll do better after the experience of playing and doing better with it. There are some things you have to work through."

Bob Stoops has been careful not to compare Sam Bradford to either Josh Heupel or Jason White. That has changed.

ESPN's Tim Griffin is back with his mailbag. I bet you can guess the topic of most questions.

 

'Round the Blogs

Barking Carnival has some advice to the Big 12: Drop dead.

Corn Nation has their Big 12 Cob of the Week. The Texas fan base is one of the nominees. Corn Blight, we are starting to take this personally.

Bring On The Cats has a letter to Dan Beebe. The main point is not to cave in to Texas.

Crimson and Cream Machine talks about the Sooners dominance on the conference awards. Even with all the awards, they are still frustrated.

The Ralphie Report has the Worst of 2008.

 

 

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Yahoo Sports' Dan Wetzel compares the old system of picking a national champion and the BCS to beer.

18 teams are BCS bowl eligible. Penn State, aBig Ten co-champion, and Cincinnati, Big East champion, have already earned automatic berths. Now the waiting game begins to see who gets the rest of the invitations.

ESPN's Pat Forde has put out The Dashies, his annual end-of-season awards show.

 

 

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Following the gravy train of college sports... money.

Collegiate merchandising is alive and well. Despite a lagging economy, OU items are selling well in Norman.

"This weekend was really good. Now with the announcement yesterday everybody's excitement seems to be there and we've been pretty steady this morning," says Jerry Hatter, owner of Balfour of Norman.
The announcement came in, fans came pouring in and the merchandise is flying out of Balfour. OU hurdled Texas for the #2 spot in the BCS, meaning the Sooners play for the Big 12 title.  Fans are now stocking up on all their favorite Sooner gear.

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Dr. Saturday comments still leave the door open for Texas to hold off Florida....

even though the door is just slightly cracked. Florida still needs over 100 votes from the two human polls to seal the deal………but as he mentions, its does get murky if Florida barely wins and OU blows the doors of Mizzou (which would likely steal #1 votes from Florida). His historical look at votes gained for teams coming off big wins is nice, but doesn’t match the given scenario for this situation with Oklahoma, Florida, and Texas. But again, none of this matters if Bama wins.

by silky51 on Dec 3, 2008 8:29 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Florida is a very good team.

The can beat Alabama, if they do is another story. But if it happens, the BCS becomes even murkier.

by dimecoverage on Dec 3, 2008 8:49 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hah
“If you win all of your games you don’t have to worry about this scenario.”

Boise State: F off.

Ball State: Yeah!

by jc25 on Dec 3, 2008 8:57 AM CST reply reply actions actions   2 recs

Dan Wetzel's column

I sent him a note of thanks, but I think everyone should read Dan Wetzel’s column about a 16-team playoff. Best argument I’ve seen for any playoff and I think it needs to be restated and read by everyone here.

by cheevyjames on Dec 3, 2008 9:13 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Great column by Wetzel.

He covers virtually all the relevant bases. When I was a sports editor, I wrote similar material for many years concerning a 16-team playoff, complete with brackets so the fans could see what they are missing. I also did away with conference championship games, going with best record and/or head-to-head. (If there was no obvious resolution, have the CCG as a play-in game in the dead week.)

A good follow-up story would be on the history of the bowls and the entrepreneurs who make the money. There’s a lot of unseen individuals and groups who are constantly lobbying for the bowl structure which puts money in their pockets. Since the advent of so much TV money, there’s plenty of dollars to snag…and much of it doesn’t go in the NCAA’s pocket. A break down of who really gets the money would be a welcome addition. The bowls are particularly about fans now that the TV money predominates, although a good gate sweetens the whole deal.

Last, and not least, it would spread money through-out the football system while the present structure rewards the top tier disproportionally. This is where any political activity in Congress will have a real say; that door is wide open because of the comparison to the NCAA basketball playoffs.

One intriguing idea he presents is not just the other bowls staying in existence, but of possible grudge matches between teams who were in the playoffs but lost early and have someone they’d just love to beat in a challenge bowl, so to speak.

I’d love to see Tulsa get a shot at OU; they can rightly claim that OU must earn the state of Oklahoma championship on the field. It would also encourage the anti-OU element, who properly proclaim: We don’t suck.

On the other hand, I’d switch out OU and/or Texas with Florida in the brackets; you have three Big 12 teams in one bracket. (Like basketball, use sets of four interchangeably in setting up brackets where teams who have played each other during the season do not face each other, if possible. With three from one conference, that, of course, is impossible.)

What Wetzel does note is that more money than ever would flow into the NCAA. Many act like the money in the BCS would disappear. This comes across like someone’s political talking point to pad their own pocket and future their own future, because, in fact, it would not be true. The more you include, the greater the appeal, especially with using home stadiums, the greater the fan base who would be attending and watching. This happened when basketball expanded from 32 to 64 (65) and resulted in the March Madness we now know and love.

Do you want to open the competition to a playoff or do you want a virtual monopoly (even if we are one of the same ole faces)? While monopolies are predatory, they also imply that those involved are afraid to compete in the marketplace on the merits of their product. I don’t think we (Texas) has that fear, so why should we worry about that? Bring ’em on, all of them.

by whills on Dec 3, 2008 10:59 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Beebe playing spin control

Crisis PR 101…

Step 1: Distance as much as possible, “hey people, I wasn’t even around when they made this rule.”

Step 2: Block and bridge – “I understand you want to punch me in the face, but so do all the other teams. And when we talked to the basetball committee, they said this a good way to break ties. Yes, go punch basketball committee in the face.”

Step 3: Quote scripture or blame it on God – “Hey, it was the perfect storm. Who do I look like, Jesus? I’m just a man trying to feed his family on $500,000 a year plus bonuses and TV kick-backs.”

Gotta love it…no accountability, just stall tactics and placation. Everyone assumes the tie-breaker rule will be changed after the season, but Beebe is smart enough to know that changing the rule is in essence admitting that the wrong team is representing the South right now.

Honestly though, I’m over this. I’d like to see the focus turned back on Mack a little for scheduling cupcakes in the non-con. He still needs to answer for that. Because I’ve got news for you, if Tech hadn’t gotten blown out by OU and the BCS rankings had looked a lot more like OU#2, Texas#3, and Tech#4, this would have come down to SOS and we probably still would have lost out and the head-to-head argument wouldn’t seem quite so strong with Tech right on our ass.

I still think we got screwed, but the focus of all this ire is somewhat misplaced.

Be nobody but yourself in a world that desperately wants you to be like everybody else.

by 54b on Dec 3, 2008 9:25 AM CST reply reply actions actions   1 recs

Agreed.

Honestly though, I’m over this.

I’m skipping past all the “UT got screwed” articlles and there are plenty out there.

I did find Beebe’s comments amusing, especially the win them all and it wouldn’t happen. The Big 12 picks the best and the brightest to man the helm, don’t they?

by dimecoverage on Dec 3, 2008 10:19 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Tech

Tech could have a pretty horrible week as well. They go 11-1, finally win all the games they are supposed to, get no chance at any championship game, have to play in the cotton bowl at 6 am and their savior coach could leave them, sending them right back to mediocrity.

by JohnsonUT on Dec 3, 2008 1:32 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Just a thought

I’ve been stewing about this Big 12 mess. I say OU get’s moved to the Big 12 North, we give Iowa State to the Big 10, thus making it a legit conference with 12 teams. The Big 12 then brings in TCU to replace OU in the South

Just let your souuuuuul glo, baby....feeling oh so silky smooth...

by TNHorn on Dec 3, 2008 2:32 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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Game of the Year — Texas Tech 39, Texas 33. See above. And the second-best game was the one that no longer counts: Texas 45, Oklahoma 35.

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by run Bevo run on Dec 3, 2008 6:13 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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