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What about a re-seed at mid season?

Have the south play each other and the north play each other in weeks 1-5 round robin.

South
Texas 4-1
OU 4-1
Tech 4-1
OSU 2-3
Baylor 1-4
A&M 0-5

North

Kansas 4-1
Missouri 4-1
Nebraska 3-2
Colorado 2-3
Kansas St 1-4
Iowa St. 0-5

The top 3 north teams and the Top 3 south teams form one division. BUT you bring your common game record(including the Head to Head) from the first part of the season in and play the other teams. This maintains head to head and reduces the additional games to be played to 3. This keeps an 8 game regular season.

Big XII A
Kansas 1-1
Texas 1-1
OU 1-1
Tech 1-1
Nebraska 1-1
Missouri 1-1

The bottom 3 south teams and the bottom 3 North Teams form another division. They bring their common records from the last division as well and play a consolation division.

Big XII B
A&M
Kansas St.
Iowa St.
OSU
Colorado
Baylor

You play the three teams in the new division that you haven't played before in weeks 6-8. North has home games the first and thrid week and the south has the home game in the middle. Alternate that the next year. That way hotels can still be planned for. Air fare may be a little different, but isn't all that charter anyway? You could give everyone a bye in between the two divisions so they have an extra week to plan.

So the second half of the season Texas would play Missouri, Nebraska and Kansas. Let say the final records looked like this:

Texas 4-1
OU 4-1
Tech 4-1
Kansas 2-3
Missouri 2-3
Nebraska1-4


You can then have a reasonable tie breaker because the top three teams have all played the same 8 common opponents. Do point differential or penetrations or what ever you want that is something that actually happens on the field.

You can then have a CCG which will always be a rematch...but at least a good rematch. In this case it would actually be for the championship where as other years it might be to bring the top team back down to a co-championship level. Other years it may be just for giggles if the Top team is already two games ahead in the standings. I'd be in favor of getting rid of the CCG all together but I don't make millions of dollars every year from it.

This plan does the following:


1. Increases the SoS for the top teams.


2. Increases the TV ratings for the top games.


3. Gives the Have nots something to play for at the end of the season. A Big XII B championship is nothing to sneeze at.


4. Keeps a 'Championship Game' but makes it much less ridiculous then the current unbalanced Weak North Vs. Powerful South incarnation.

Disadvantages:


1. The Texas/A&M game would have to be played before Thanksgiving. We could still have a Thanksgiving game every other year but it wouldn't be the aggies. I could be Colorado or Nebraska if they end up in our division.


2. I still don't like the championship at the end of the year. It will always be a rematch....but a rematch of the for sure best two teams.

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Interesting suggestion

But, like BZ’s flex championship, much too complicated and radical to happen.

by jc25 on Dec 3, 2008 12:31 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Could we get rid of the divisions?

Scheduling remains as it is, but the championship game is the top two teams at the end.

Similar to basketball: scheduling is still done by North/South divisions, even though the divisions don’t actually exist on paper, but it’s quite possible to have the top two or three seeds all come from the “North” or the “South”.

by Hopkins Horn on Dec 3, 2008 12:38 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

re: Top 2 Teams

Sure, but who would that be in a 3-way tie? The 2 w/ the top BCS rankings? Wouldn’t that be just as fair/unfair as the current system?

And with the current setup, at least there is a 50% chance that the 2 teams in the Championship game have not played each other yet during the season.

So you're saying that now I have to think of some witty Sig that will be applicable across all the SBN sites? Go TexanHornStros!

by Shake on Dec 3, 2008 1:12 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Rematches
Sure, but who would that be in a 3-way tie? The 2 w/ the top BCS rankings? Wouldn’t that be just as fair/unfair as the current system?

Sure, there would be some unfairness, but if it had existed this year, at least two of the three 11-1 teams, and not just one.

And with the current setup, at least there is a 50% chance that the 2 teams in the Championship game have not played each other yet during the season.

But what’s better as a conference championship game: OU against an 11-1 Texas team it has already played, or against a 9-3 Mizzou team it hasn’t played and which is generally regarded as, at best, the fifth-best team in the conference?

by Hopkins Horn on Dec 3, 2008 1:25 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Gameday

You need to schedule the whole season. Fans, businesses, etc. need plenty of notice to plan for games.

Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. If they get mad, you're a mile away AND you have their shoes.

by Caradoc on Dec 3, 2008 1:18 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Alternate

That is why I put alternating the home and away games by division. So this year you’d know that Texas(and all the south teams) would have an away game on Nov 15th and 29th and a Home game on Nov. 22nd. Next year it would reverse and the south would get two home games.

by afat on Dec 3, 2008 2:09 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Isnt that too complicated and only needed to replace a 5th tiebreaker?

How about this for a tie breaker – if the north or south has a tie, and those lost games in the ties are less or equal to the losses of the best team in the other end, then the big 12 championship is played between the top two team?

by Randyy on Dec 3, 2008 2:40 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

It isn't just the tie breaker

The Big XII Championship has been a joke or an unfortunate stumbling block to a deserving team more often the not.

Beyond that, the system eliminates the need for a championship game by using the same amount of games. The championship game clause was just there because of the money it generates. I personally think that the TV revenue from the better games that would be generated would more then compensate for the CCG, but I think the CCG money is split and it would suck for Baylor/Iowa St.

by afat on Dec 3, 2008 3:42 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

while we're at it

how about incorporating european soccer style relegation to college football?

Every year, the bottom two teams in the Big 12 get bumped down the Mountain West, and the top 2 Mountain West teams would join the Big 12. Sure it would be confusing and wouldn’t solve any tie breakers, but we’d lose A&M and Iowa State and gain TCU and Utah next year which would boost everyone strength of schedule. Not to mention the non-BCS schools would actually have to cut it in a real conference before they can try to blow up the BCS party.

Tongue planted firmly in cheeck guys.

by BMG on Dec 3, 2008 3:39 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

You may have your tounge cheek...

….but I’ve thoroughly mapped out a system that incorporates soccer style pool play into college football.

You may think it is silly but our schedule would be awesome every year.

http://austin.fatheree.googlepages.com/PoolPlay.pdf

by afat on Dec 3, 2008 3:44 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

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