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I know who Auburn can hire!!

I don't know about how most Longhorn fans feel, but I would love to see Leach go to Washington, and Auburn can take the aragant pomposs coach at OU.  Hire Stoops!!!  With those two gone, maybe the Big 12 can get more respect.  Lets start the band wagon at Auburn. Hire Stoops!, Hire Stoops.  The "Sooner" he leave the Sooners the better.

If anyone knows of anyone who can put spells on sports teams like the curses of the Cubs.  The Sooners for how they've handled this 3 way dibacle plus not to mention that OU fans are normally insane and idiots need a good curse starting with Saturday's game with Missouri.

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wtf

why would stoops go to auburn. maybe you’re just trying to be funny..so haha, i guess..but if you’re serious, get real.

by Michael Bean on Dec 3, 2008 8:07 PM CST reply actions  

I don't think Leach or Stoops will ever leave their current schools...

Stoops obviously has no reason to ever leave Oklahoma, so let’s just put that to rest. Why would he ever go to the SEC, which year-in-year-out, has more pressure and parity than the Big 12? Don’t get me wrong, this season has been awesome for our Big 12, but we’re still the number 2 conference in everyone’s mind…and because of ESPN/ABC’s new ties to them, the media will ALWAYS promote them as the best conference. No, the only place Big Game Bob ever goes is the Sunday league to prove he’s a man (and 40). Even if the NFL came calling, why jump when it’s such a tougher league and the quality of life is abysmal?

As per Leach, I don’t see why Washington is an attractive job to him. Sure, he has ties to Washington, and it’s a hell of a lot nicer place to live than Lubbock (no offense to anyone who hails from there), but it’s not going to be substantially more money than Tech, it has a worse football culture than Tech, and worse still for his career the school has the same ingrained recruiting problems in that it’s the Tech of the Pac 10. Washington, regardless of it’s HC, has traditionally recruited behind USC, UCLA, and even Oregon. The only thing onfield I could see possibly making the Mad Scientist drool over the job is that it’s an easier conference overall and he might get a few of those fluke USC wins that happen every year…propelling him to a National Championship that Tech will probably never yield. Plus, what happens now that teams are cracking the code of how to defend his offense? Gonna be hard to build a program at that point…

by KevinJ on Dec 3, 2008 8:25 PM CST reply actions  

Washington is a 5-year poject

It has become a stock argument lately to point out that coaches typically get 3 years to get a program turned around, but if I’m interviewing at Washington, I make them guarantee 5 years of leniency.

by BrooklynHorn on Dec 3, 2008 9:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Washington is a great college football program. It’s in a sorry state right this second, but it’s definitely not the Tech of the Pac-10. If anything, Washington State deserves that label. They’re in the middle of nowhere, while UW is in the very, very trendy and attractive Seattle area. It’s a lot easier to recruit at UW than it is at TT, even if the in-state talent is much better in Texas. UW, with the right coach, would start fending off Pacific Northwest talent competitors like Oregon State, Oregon, and Boise State for the NorCal, inland Cal, and PNW players, just as they did before Neuheisel left.

by burntorangehorn on Dec 4, 2008 8:37 AM CST up reply actions  

point taken, but...

You’re absolutely right that Washington, in their overall history, has a great record, but they haven’t been a contender in what, 9 years now? I don’t see how you explain to some kid from SoCal why you pass up the NFL factory that is USC or even the reboot at UCLA that will be VASTLY improved once they aren’t playing their third string QB next season. For that matter, why pass up on Cal if you got the grades? Or an Oregon team that, while a perpetual letdown, is at least enjoying more recent success and media love. Don’t get me wrong, you plug a hot coach into Washington and you could get some better recruits and results over time, but unless you’re a name like Bill Belichick there’s no way you compete with what’s already there. It just seems too lateral for Leach to me. As per money, did you know that Leach is making over $3 million a year at Tech? Not much of that is salary, but he makes a ton for his his tv, promoes, etc out of Lubbock. Overall, I just think he’s the third most attractive coach in the Big 12, and in the Pac 10 he’s the 5th girl you ask to dance. (Maybe it’s all just wishful thinking though because I want him to stay at Tech and make/keep them strong for strength of schedule).

by KevinJ on Dec 4, 2008 11:53 AM CST up reply actions  

ESPN/ABC's ties to SEC?

I thought CBS had bought out the SEC completely with a 15-yr deal. Is ESPN/ABC now tied in to them as well? Seems to me that ABC has been carrying all the Big-12 games on Saturday prime time.

Which brings up a tangential question about whether the Big-12 couldn’t get a big network contract as well, like to ABC. I thought I read somewhere that the CBS contract with SEC was good for $15M per school per year. It would be hard for any other conferences to compete against that cash flow advantage.

by Pops'72 on Dec 4, 2008 12:12 PM CST up reply actions  

why would Stoops go to the SEC?

where cheating would no longer provide a competitive advantage…

by Pflash on Dec 3, 2008 11:02 PM CST reply actions  

"OU fans are normally insane and idiots need a good curse"

They live in Oklahoma that should be enough of a curse.

by seth78 on Dec 3, 2008 11:46 PM CST reply actions  

Mike Leach is gone!

He has taken that program as far as it can go and has doen a great job doing it! Now its time to get paid! This is the best chance he will get to get out of Texas where he is stuck getting the left overs of Texas, OU and A&M (I know they havent produced with their players but they have gotten some good classes down there). There is talent in the Northwest and he would have a better chance getting them from Oregan and USC than he will from The big 3 down here. BYE BYE Leach! If Bob Stoops wouldnt leave Ou to go to Ohio St when that job was open at the turn of the century than why would he go to Auburn. Its not going to happen. If they want to Make a big splash with a big time coach ( yet still at a small school) they need to look at Peterson at Boise St or Turner Gil up at Buffalo. Turner Gil is the most underated coach in the country and the fact that he is a black male (hate it or not that would work well down there in recruiting) he would be the guy I would hire.

by LEMILES on Dec 3, 2008 11:59 PM CST reply actions  

Finding talent in Texas isn't the problem for him

There is more than enough to go around for everyone. It’s that kids don’t want to play for Tech unless they can’t get into UT, don’t want to go up north to OU or would rather slam their head into a wall than go to aTm. Maybe Lubbock kids are the exception or those that were never horns fans to begin with so they’d go to Tech for their degree and play some football too. When you create success then the talent will come to you in herds instead of you begging them to come play for you and not go to Texas, OU, LSU or any other big program in the region that would have a legitimate shot at a national title nearly every year.

by seth78 on Dec 4, 2008 1:13 AM CST up reply actions  

this is beyond presumptuous

There are tons and tons of young high school kids across the state of Texas who watched Michael Crabtree the past two years and have dreams of playing at Tech. Stop projecting your own ideas on an entire state of kids. That’s just dumb. Texas Tech has gotten top 20 recruiting classes IIRC the last three or four years, with some of the last couple of classes being even better.

by Michael Bean on Dec 4, 2008 1:35 AM CST up reply actions  

?

I never said the state didnt have enough kids. take this into consideration. You have 100 big time recruits in the state. (yes i know Texas has a ton of talent). You will have 25 kids go to Texas. Of those 25, 20 of them are in the top 50. A&M will get 20, 10 of those are in the top 50. They havent produced with them but that number is pretty close. OU gets 15 maybe more. Of those 10 are in the top 50. Then you have LSU, Nebraska, OSU the list goes on coming to try and grab the top talent in the state. Now if your a kid wanting to play in the league are you going to go to Tech where you stay in the region as far as television coverage, or do you go ahead and go to LSU or some other SEC school. That is an easy question. You go SEC. Do not think that isnt said in a recruiting trip. Cause it is. It will be easier for Leach to get the top talent in Washinton, Oregon etc which Washington was getting before Willingham came to town. That is why Oregon, Boise St and even Utah has gotten the attention they have gotten is because Willingham cant recruit those kids. Leach will have easy pickings with the practice he has had fighting Mack and Bob the last 8 years. He will win the living room battle and eventually have them back to respectiblity. Tech cant spend with Starbucks either!

by LEMILES on Dec 4, 2008 2:03 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm sure because of the incident in 2004

Even if Bob was crazy enough to drop OU for Auburn, the Auburn fans would maul him on his first day to release all their pent-up frustration. And then they would love him, but I’m sure he wouldn’t love them back after that.

by TheElusiveShadow on Dec 4, 2008 12:05 AM CST reply actions  

I've been hearing

Leach to Auburn rumors the past couple of days. My question is this, would his system work in the SEC? How well will a system that disregards time of possession do in a league that prides itself on defense. I just don’t see him winning 9+ games in that conference.

by orangeblood1 on Dec 4, 2008 9:56 AM CST reply actions  

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