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Mailbag: Brain Style (Nerds Get Mail, Too)

Email, to be exact.

And you're lucky, too.  In my nightmares, where I receive actual paper mail, this guy is always waiting for me at the mailbox to hand me my letters personally.  Yeesh to say the least.

Hi,
I got so mad about the BCS that I made a video about it (from the Longhorns perspective)...



It’s kind of funny.

-Bobby

Kind of funny?  More like my new anthem.  Oh, and if any of you are having a bit of writer's block trying to pen that perfect letter to the Big 12, may I suggest:

Dear Dan,

I'm as mad as hell, and I'm not going to take this anymore.

Sincerely,

Hookem_medium

A couple more emails after the break...

Star-divide

IMHO, the greatest blemish is the coaches voting AT ALL.  They can barely prepare enough time to watch game film for their own responsibilities regarding upcoming opponents...much less take in 25-35 games each week to assess... each team's worthiness of ranking.  Moreover, the offensive bias leads coaches and sportswriters alike to have man-crushes on the likes of Leach, Stoops, Tebow, and Bradford.  Meanwhile, the two defensive teams:  Bama and UT are getting absolutely zero love.  The only team OU played with any defense at all shut them down in the 4th when it counted most.  Similarly, FL has not seen the likes of Bama's defense yet this season, and I wonder how they will handle them since their biggest test was a severely overrated Georgia team.  While  FL and UT share the argument of a very narrow loss, FL has played nobody in the top 10 all season...neither has Bama. 

I agree that the fairest thing for the national title barring a Bama victory is an OU Horns rematch...on another neutral field.  Ironically, this could validate the BCS were OU to win...but I will take UT's defense over their offense any day. 

-Tony

Wow, lots of good stuff here.  First of all, I agree with you about the coaches voting at all.  Some say they spend hours on their ballots and take it very seriously, others don't even know how many losses the next team they're going to play has.  They're all guaranteed to have an incentive to cheat if their team is anywhere near the top 5 or that magic BCS eligibility cutoff, #14.

So what can we do?  Well, BZ called for secret BCS computer ratings (and therefore, a mildly secret BCS standings) until the final standings that send the top 2 teams to the 'ship, as well as publicizing all coaches' and Harris voters' ballots and requiring a 500 word explanation of your top 5.  That's a start, but the coaches really aren't going to like writing an essay every week when they need to be watching film and preparing practices, so they'll never go for it (Leach would probably alternate between writing a short story where different breakfast foods stand for the top five teams and just writing his top five rankings over and over until he hit 500 words).  That doesn't mean it isn't a good idea, however - I think we should ditch the coaches and quit expecting them to care.  I think the Harris Poll is a crock, as well, but it could be made serviceable with BZ's improvements.  Open the ballots to ridicule, make them justify (in writing) their top 5, don't tell them the computer scores until they've voted in the final poll, and introduce some way for a voter to get tossed from the system if he/she, for instance, doesn't know that Penn St. or OU has lost a game over a month later.

In regards to your other point - that Florida and Alabama haven't beaten anyone ranked in the Top 10 - Um, yeah.  That's the big red elephant/green gator in the room isn't it?  I'm shocked that no one has taken up this battle cry, and everyone is content to let the voters get away with overrating Florida for the same reasons as OU (Flashy offense, blowing teams out late in the season), but with none of the actual on-field achievements to warrant an argument.  Florida has beaten Georgia and Florida State and that's it as far as ranked teams.  Georgia just gave up 45 at home to Georgia Tech running the damned option for the first year, and Florida State is only still ranked after that beating because it came at the hands of Florida.  Plus, let's not forget the little fact that when Florida lost, it was at home to an 8-4 Ole Miss.  If Alabama beats Florida, I have no problem with having them ranked ahead of us, as they'll have one very good win and no losses, but Florida has no business being ranked ahead of us no matter what they do to Alabama.  Their loss will be worse than ours and we'll have the far better win (once the Tide lose a game, they ought to drop like a rock in the computers), plus a few more impressive wins to boot.  The fact that they'll have won the SEC is a technicality.  We beat the Big 12 champion and we only lost once to a team that wasn't in the Big 12 CG, so we sure as hell didn't not win the Big 12.  We deserve to be ranked ahead of Florida right now and no matter what happens Saturday.

I've noticed a pretty sympathetic press reaction to the longhorns situation this week. Is it not possible that if OU plays mizzou close, we could pass OU and slip in to the NC?

-M.B. (no, not that MB)

No.  At this point, if OU wins, they're going to be ahead of us no matter what.  The humans would have to combine to give us basically a full ranking point gain, plus the computers can't get any worse than they are or we're toast.  I said no, but I mean almost surely no.  It's mathematically possible for us to jump OU, but it won't happen, how's that?

Rooting Guide for Saturday (In order of most important to us):

1.)  Root for Mizzou to beat OU by any margin.  This virtually guarantees us a spot in the NCG, as USC is never going to catch us with those computer scores unless they're a unanimous #1 in both human polls (and even then I think it would be close).  Bonus from this is that if OU struggles with Mizzou and Florida wins ugly over 'Bama (see #2), it could help muddy the human poll waters.

2.) Root for Florida.  An ugly Florida win and a little bit more campaigning could make the top three of the human polls into a total clusterf*$#.  I don't give a damn what Hinton says over at Dr. Saturday, this is going to be way closer than people think as long as the voters don't give up on us completely now that we aren't in the Big 12 CG.

3.) Root for Alabama... on defense.  The uglier Florida wins, the better.

4.) Root for UCLA.  Just because we hate the Trojans.

Thanks to everyone for the great emails, and keep them coming.  I'll always reply to you, either here or in private (I almost feel like this is an unwritten blog policy), and I'll never use your full name unless you say it's cool (that is blog policy).

Poll
Should Florida be ranked over Texas?
Yes, right now
50 votes
Only if they beat 'Bama
269 votes
If they beat 'Bama, but only because they'll be conference champs
165 votes
Not now, not ever
407 votes

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is AWESOME!!! I definitely am joining.

by BufreTX on Dec 4, 2008 7:26 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Poll

I have nothing against Florida — I love EDSBS — and believe they should be ranked No. 3 behind Texas and OU. Florida’s loss is objectively worse than those of Texas and OU, and none of its wins are better than those of Texas and OU.

Regarding Alabama, they have not beaten a team currently in the Top 15; accordingly, there is now no reason other than name recognition to treat Utah and Alabama differently. However, if Alabama beats Florida, they should go to the BCS Championship.

Nonetheless, if Florida beats Alabama, I do not think the quality of that win in the context of their season as a whole is enough to elevate them over Texas or OU as the best one loss team.

by Allaha on Dec 4, 2008 8:05 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Moreover

Texas beat the #1 team in the country on October 11. Why is that less impressive if FL does the same? On a neutral field?

by Mulliganville on Dec 4, 2008 11:21 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Add one game to the Rooting Guide for Saturday...

4. Root for Cincinnati over Hawaii (I know this has been mentioned by others, but a Hawaii upset over Cincinnati will give Florida the needed boost in the computers to pass Texas for good.)

by silky51 on Dec 4, 2008 8:07 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Poll Hypocrisy

So what is it? Do the poll voters know what they are talking about or not? In the first two paragraphs you make the case that the voters don’t have a clue, then you make the case that Texas is “better” than Florida due to the rankings of their foes. You can’t have it both ways, that is the reason most believe that Florida both “should” and will play the winner of the BIGXII in the MNC game. You talk about a team (Texas) deserving to play over another (Florida) due to this, yet can you be sure that Georgia Tech beating Georgia really means that “FLORIDA SUX”, obviously the answer is no. We already know who would win in a game between OU and Texas on a neutral field (obviously, and I share your pain on that front) but to play it again when there are 117 other teams that in the FBS division, in which there are very few comparative games/scores to truly eliminate the outlining games and truly “know” which team is better, should not happen.

by Bsquared on Dec 4, 2008 9:20 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nobody said FLORIDA SUX

Just that they don’t have the resume of wins and losses that Texas has, aside from winning their division. Your point about dismissing the polls and then relying on them is a good one though.

by Horncasting on Dec 4, 2008 9:29 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dismissing and relying...

I dismiss the polls because they’re completely screwed up.

I rely on the polls because, like every other fan of CFB, the fate of my team is entangled with them. I am suggesting that they rank Texas over Florida because Texas’ resume is much better. Intentionally down-ranking Texas to avoid a rematch is the exact kind of shenanigan that causes me to say the polls are screwed up in the first place. I’m being entirely consistent.

Also, the "no-rematch" argument has no legs, as OU is ahead of Texas. Therefore, that game settled nothing, and if it needs to be played again, then that’s what has to happen. Plus, OU is only ahead of Texas because "they’re a different team." If that’s true, then it wont’ even be a rematch. How can you say that there can be no rematch since Texas already had a shot when we WON that game? Some shot that is.

by Horn Brain on Dec 4, 2008 10:37 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Subtract one "Yes right now" vote...

…as to whether Florida should be ranked over Texas.

I was so overzealous I read the poll wrong. :(

Hook em!

by Heart of a Muschampion on Dec 4, 2008 11:27 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This is the Line of Arguement You Should Have Been Mounting the Last 2 Weeks.

I thought if OU ran the table they would get one of the bids. Florida was always the more vulnerable team, because of the computers. Unfortunately, very difficult persuading the voters that Florida winning the SEC doesn’t trump what Texas (due to their exclusion from the B 12 CG due to a technicality) did. They have no major wins compared to Texas’ resume and their loss is signficantly worse, even if they destroy Alabama (although it’s over if FLA wins by 4 touchdowns).

When you do the BCS Breakdowns can you have different colors for human created delta as opposed to computer created delta like green and red on the Delta from Expected Uncertainty graph? To me it would be Alabama-Computer, OU/Texas-Human, Florida/USC Computer. Basically whatever group is more sceptical is the assigned color. I think it would be more informative and easier to read.

by sleepyhawk on Dec 4, 2008 7:18 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Great idea re: colors

I’ll look into that for the final standings. Thanks for the input.

by Horn Brain on Dec 4, 2008 9:11 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

OU gets nod over Texas

Though born in Tx, I must admit to being a KU fan. With that, do you folks understand it was a 3-WAY TIE, as in 3 teams lost 1 game, as in one more than 2 (OU v Texas)? So is the Sooners don’t beat Tech so bad as to take them out of the discussion, would you then accept theTHREE-way tie? Maybe if you played even a decent non-conference schedule, you would not get beat by the computers (see Auburn, I believe 2003).

I will admit and surprised that the enormous amount of politicing from Mack almost worked. If there is another 3-way tie (as in 1 more than 2), I wonder if Stoops will politic on the same level as Mack? The answer – of course not.

by Wichita Lineman on Dec 5, 2008 12:55 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

There are voters

If you don’t politic, you deserve to lose since you obviously don’t have a case to argue. The idea is to win if you have a the best case to influence voters. We have an entire government based on the idea. You should check it out.

by notsofst on Dec 5, 2008 10:51 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Is this Right?

This can’t be right, I work with a Sooner who emailed me the following…

According to Mack, Texas fans and of course ESPN, Head to Head is the only way to vote?

In 2006 Texas 9-3 & Texas aTm 9-3

A&M won the head to head in Austin, 12-7.

Yet Mack had A&M 7 spots behind texas in his ballot for the coaches poll:

by Wichita Lineman on Dec 5, 2008 1:04 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Of course I am an OU fan

Not sure what I am doing here (don’t worry, I am leaving), but I just wanted to check your blog. I do feel your pain, as you can bet the SoonerNation would be upset if we beat you in Dallas, then you passed us when we LOST to Tech. You do remember that – you got beat by Tech. I am amazed that ESPN has conveniently chosen to ignore that little tidbit when promoting Texas all day long. However, using your battle cry of 45-35, how can Texas be ranked ahead of Tech? Too bad Mack’s endless politics (will he be on during Big XII game) did not work on the computers.

Now, I will admit I am concerned that if the Sooners barely beat Mizz – that the ESPN machine could get you enough votes to pass OU for the NC game. Funny how ESPN seems to love Texas and Florida. I would think they would get better numbers with USC in the mix.

by Wichita Lineman on Dec 5, 2008 1:27 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hmmm...

I wonder how many more belligerent comments he makes to himself before he realizes no one comments my posts?

by Horn Brain on Dec 5, 2008 5:35 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   1 recs

I'll take the love of the BCS

Over the love of ESPN any day:

http://www.newsok.com/article/3326708

Sooners have the better of the two.

by notsofst on Dec 5, 2008 10:53 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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