Burnt Orange Nation: An SB Nation Community

Navigation: Jump to content areas:


Sports blogs for fans, by fans.
Around SBN: Fedor vs Rogers Results and Live Coverage

BCS Selection Process Explained

There has been a lot of speculation about Texas possibly playing Alabama in the Sugar Bowl. Let's take a look at how this is almost impossible.

The top two teams in the final BCS poll will play in the national championship game in Miami on January 8th. For the sake of this post, I am going to assume those two teams are Oklahoma and Florida. I am also going to assume that Oklahoma is the top ranked team and Florida is the second ranked team.

Now, the national championship game is set: #1 Oklahoma vs. #2 Florida.

The others that are now set involve the automatic bowl tie-ins. The Rose Bowl will get the Pac-10 champion vs. the Big 10 champion. This year, that will be Penn State vs. USC. So, the Rose Bowl is now set.

The Orange Bowl automatically gets the ACC champion. By virtue of their win over Boston College yesterday afternoon, Virginia Tech is headed to the Orange Bowl.

Star-divide

There are now five teams of the ten in place. Next, the bowls which lost their automatic tie-ins to the national championship game will get to pick replacement teams, with the bowl that lost the #1 ranked team picking first. In my assumed scenario, Oklahoma is the top ranked team, and as the Big XII champion, would have automatically qualified for the Fiesta Bowl as the Big XII representative. So, the Fiesta Bowl gets the first replacement pick followed by the Sugar Bowl, by virtue of losing Florida.

The Fiesta Bowl would be crazy not to select Texas. The Longhorns will finish in the top four of the final BCS standings and automatically qualify for a BCS berth. If the Fiesta were to pass on the Longhorns, then Texas would be selected by either the Sugar or the Orange bowls. This is not going to happen.

(Some of you may be wondering what would happen should Florida be #1 and Oklahoma #2 in the final BCS poll, therefore giving the Sugar Bowl the first replacement pick and the Fiesta the second one. In this case, nothing changes. There is a provision in the BCS rules that states a bowl picking a replacement team for the #1 team may not select a team from the same conference as the #2 team without the permission of the tie-in bowl of that conference. What this means is the Sugar Bowl would not be allowed to pick Texas with their replacement pick unless the Fiesta Bowl agreed to it. That is not going to happen without an amazing amount of cash changing hands. Don't hold your breath Longhorn fans.)

Ok, back to the selection process. The Fiesta will take Texas as their replacement pick and the Sugar Bowl will pick Alabama as theirs.

Now, we have the national championship game, the automatic selections, and the replacement picks taken care of. There are three spots left. The bowls alternate the picking order year to year. This year it is Fiesta, Sugar, and then Orange.

The Fiesta gets the next pick and can choose teams like Ohio State, Utah, or Boise State. The most likely pick here is Ohio State. Buckeye fans travel, the television ratings will be very good, and it would be the rubber match of a home-and-home series between Texas and OSU from a few years ago.

The Sugar Bowl gets the next pick and must take either Utah or Cincinnati. Utah is the highest rated conference champion from a non-automatic qualifying conference and is ranked in the top 12 of the final standings. Cincinnati is an automatic qualifier as the Big East champion. The safe money is on the Sugar selecting Utah and letting Cincy fall to the Orange Bowl.

National Championship: Oklahoma vs. Florida
Rose Bowl: Penn State vs. USC
Fiesta Bowl: Texas vs. Ohio State
Sugar: Alabama vs. Utah
Orange: Virginia Tech vs. Cincinnati

There is one final provision which allows BCS officials to change the match-ups to avoid rematches or to align the teams for better television ratings. For those of you hoping to see Texas in the Sugar Bowl, this is what you're basing your hopes on because if the selections go logically, then Texas is headed to the Fiesta Bowl.

0 recs  |  Comment 33 comments |

Story-email Email Printer Print

More from Burnt Orange Nation

2008 Season Send-Off

Jan 2009 by Peter Bean - 15 comments

A Hill Country Fiesta

Jan 2009 by billyzane - 23 comments

The Annual Playoffs Post

Jan 2009 by Peter Bean - 98 comments

Comments

Display:

Because we'd be an at-large...

…we’re not automatically heading to the Fiesta, it’s just that the Fiesta will take us as the best available at-large, barring any back-room bargaining and lots of cash exchanging hands?

In other words, if Mizzou had won last night, they would have been locked into the Fiesta, period, which the Fiesta has the right to take us or not take us?

by Hopkins Horn on Dec 7, 2008 10:50 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Automatically a BCS team

Texas automatically qualifies for a BCS bowl but not necessarily the Fiesta. I think we’re saying the same thing.

--AW--

by awiggo on Dec 7, 2008 10:53 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Texas v Alabama

I think we were all hoping for a situation where some money changes hands between either the Sugar or the Fiesta bowl to match Texas and Alabama; I am pretty sure there is about a 1% chance of that happening though

by memphizbell on Dec 7, 2008 10:52 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

This all makes sense.

But only one small mention of the influence that Fox has on the situation? And what about the corporate sponsors? The rules on paper are one thing, the influence that tv ratings and money have is another.

by kellen on Dec 7, 2008 10:53 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Just laying out the rules

It is certainly possible but far from likely.

--AW--

by awiggo on Dec 7, 2008 10:54 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Would the Big XII be better served...

…by getting rid of its tie-in with the Fiesta Bowl, allowing its champ to be a free agent?

Not that it would help Texas this year, but it would be nice if our champion a bit more flexibility to find the best possible match-up. It’s not like we’d be giving up years of history with the Fiesta.

by Hopkins Horn on Dec 7, 2008 10:57 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

I'd rather the BIg 12 Champ and the SEC champ meet in the Sugar every year

I think that would be the way to go (like the Pac 10/Big 10 meeting in the Rose). I want more B12-SEC pairing in bowl games. We do have the Cotton, but the Cotton is so far down the SEC totem pole that it usually draws a crummy 4 loss SEC team (see Ole Miss this year).

by the1austin on Dec 7, 2008 11:05 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I get what you're saying, but don't underestimate Ole Miss.

I have a bad feeling for the big 12 with that matchup for Tech.

proud to swim home

by learned hand on Dec 7, 2008 11:34 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Not in a million years

The Sugar would have to give the Fiesta about $8 billion cash to let this happen. Stand in the Fiesta Bowl’s shoes for a second: Utah vs. Ohio State, or Texas vs. Ohio State? I’d love to see Texas vs. Alabama too, but it’s not going to happen.

by Sweed4Heisman on Dec 7, 2008 10:59 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

It only possible for one reason

Didn’t the Sugar take Hawaii last year in an effort to help out the Fiesta? I did read that somewhere. If the Fiesta took Utah (driving distance to Glendale), it would still do well. Utah fans are far more likely to go to Arizona than to New Orleans. I think the Sugar might try to get the Fiesta to pair Utah and Ohio State which would still generate a lot of interest.

by the1austin on Dec 7, 2008 11:07 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

TV ratings

The Sugar took Hawaii because it had to. They had the last pick of at-large teams last year, and were stuck with the Warriors when no one else took them.

Ticket sales for a Utah/OSU Fiesta Bowl would be good, but the TV ratings would be awful. The only reason a general audience might watch is because of the Ohio State brand name, whatever success the bowl would have with ticket sales (I think Texas’ fanbase would outspend Utah’s anyway) would be erased by the lack of TV viewers. Texas/OSU will draw eyeballs just because of name recognition.

by Sweed4Heisman on Dec 7, 2008 11:19 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I think we all understand it

but alot do not agree with it.

by kriess on Dec 7, 2008 11:20 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

That they do

As much as i dislike Harrell’s temper tantrums he throws when things don’t go his way…Tech got screwed by the BCS rules and system and they deserve a bid. Much more than Ohio St

by kriess on Dec 7, 2008 11:25 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

It would be nice to see Tech vs Texas on a neutral field in a BCS game

Oh well. Good luck against a crummy 2 loss Big 10 team.

"Once in awhile, a pirate can beat a soldier"

by crabtreeforheisman on Dec 7, 2008 11:30 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

They'd still prolly get passed by OSU

Even if there wasn’t the two from the same conference rule I don’t think another bowl team would take them because OSU is so much better for the business end of things.

by Longhorn@Berkeley on Dec 7, 2008 11:48 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Is this the coaches poll that is made public?

Or is it the one after all the bowl games are played?

by the1austin on Dec 7, 2008 11:59 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

This one

Something doesn’t feel right. It’s noon and still nothing.

--AW--

by awiggo on Dec 7, 2008 12:01 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

virtual tie for 1st

OU one point in front of florida, just came out

by Sweed4Heisman on Dec 7, 2008 12:01 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Bad News

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/usatpoll.htm

Horns behind Florida by 73 votes. That is huge. Even with a .04 computer advantage, which is really pushing it, Texas would need to be ahead of Florida in the Harris poll.

Dream over.

--AW--

by awiggo on Dec 7, 2008 12:03 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

ouch

OU is only on top of Florida by 1 vote.

by danielt on Dec 7, 2008 12:12 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

the big 12 really benefited from preseason polls

Kind of a perfect storm of

1) high preseason rankings
2) easy early games so some highly ranked teams get knocked off before we have tough games, so everyone in the big 12 is basically top 5 before we even play anybody
3) a cluster of really good teams at the top of the big 12 and some easy wins at the bottom.

by vyvyvy on Dec 7, 2008 12:24 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

So did the SEC

Alabama got a huge bump from playing “#9” Clemson (joke), “#3” Georgia (who at least wasn’t a total joke, but not a top 5 or even top 15 team), and “#14” LSU (joke, propped up in no small part by beating “#10” Auburn).

by SpartanDan on Dec 7, 2008 12:49 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The last part of the selection process – juggling things after the initial selection – is what would make it possible. And it would definitely be the Sugar Bowl rather than the Fiesta if the matchup does occur; Ohio State-Utah out west and Texas-Bama in New Orleans makes far more sense than the other way around.

I hope it does happen, Texas beats Bama, and Florida beats Oklahoma. Then there will be all kinds of arguments forever. When I don’t have a particular rooting interest, I always root for chaos – and aside from the (now impossible) Red River Rematch scenario, this is as much chaos as you can get.

by SpartanDan on Dec 7, 2008 12:52 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

BCS - notice the BS in BCS ?

This year the BCS Committee has really blown it more than they usually do. Putting Oklahoma ahead of Texas after Texas beat them is ridiculous and crazy!

Go to www.BSFlag.com/BCS – they have an email system set up to send a BSFlag right to the BCS mailbox! Check it out!

If enough people send flags to the BCS committee, maybe they will take notice, and maybe then, we the fans, can make a difference!

by colinator5000 on Dec 10, 2008 12:20 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Comments For This Post Are Closed


User Tools

Welcome to Burnt Orange Nation, a blog dedicated to University of Texas athletics. Get BON updates via Twitter.
Start posting about the Longhorns »

Join SB Nation and dive into communities focused on all your favorite teams.

FanPosts

Community blog posts and discussion.

Recommended FanPosts

Ut_vs_fau_8-30-2008_049_small
Tebow Apologizes, Resumes Place at Right Hand of God
Rose_bowl_1__small
SEC Bias is Intolerable - An Email to Pat Forde

Recent FanPosts

Small
Texas-Baylor 2nd Half Thread Photo Recommendations
Img_0095_small
This week's petition to the AP from OU
Elephantlogoorange_small
BCS System Alternatives
Small
Mock BCS talk between Fla, Bama, Tex, Iowa
Clock_tower_small
Weekly BON Hit Award osu
Small
TCU?
Small
Boise St.
Small
Earl is among Thorpe Award semifinalists named
2_small
Just Curious..
Img_1915_small
Down and Dirty....The life and crimes of Oklahoma Football

+ New FanPost All FanPosts >

SPONSORS


Site Editors

Pb6_small Peter Bean

Dark_pumpkin_small awiggo

Menbooger_small GhostofBigRoy

Contributing Authors

Jersey_front_small 54b

Zombie_profilepic_small Horn Brain

Gse_multipart20834_small 40AS

Pigeons_small billyzane

Small whills

Brandedbevo1024x768_small dimecoverage

Rosebowl_small txtwstr7

Small TheElusiveShadow

Me_small burnt in ny

Official Partner of CBS Sports