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Gilbert and Cavaliers stay alive in playoffs. Fans at DKR got their first look at Garrett Gilbert on the Horns' home field on Saturday (just read Alan Trubow's article for all the Longhorn connections), watching the Cavaliers trample Killeen 71-9 as Lake Travis rides toward a second consecutive state championship. Gilbert completed 19 of 26 passes for 360 yards and four touchdowns, while leading the team in rushing with 56 yards and a touchdown. It wasn't his best day protecting the ball, as he threw two interceptions and lost a fumble, but it was the first game this season that Gilbert fumbled and the first time that he threw more than one interception in a game, as he had only thrown three all season before playing Killeen.

Gilbert has increased his completion percentage each season, completing 68.8% of his passes, up four percent from last year. As his completion percentage has gone up, his interceptions have gone down, from 14 to 13 to five this season.

Watching film from the Alice game ($), in which he ran 12 times for 260 yards and five touchdowns, reinforced my impressions of his passing, but increased my respect for his running game. At 6-4, Gilbert showed off his combination of size, sneaky speed, and balance, the latter an element quite reminiscent of Vince Young against college players. Of course, Gilbert was doing it against what looked like a poor tackling high school secondary, but was still something I hadn't seen from him.

The balance results from Gilbert running behind his pads better than a lot of college running backs, making him look at times like he had a healthy portion of butter applied to his jersey before the game. Gilbert even showed off a little shake on one long touchdown run, again shaking a defender on another before taking the edge on the pursuit. Both instances showing better feet than I thought he had; still not at the level of Colt McCoy, but pretty good enough to make some plays with his feet at the college level. I suspect that Gilbert's running is something the coaches have saved mostly for the playoffs and big moments, as Gilbert has had five games of 10 or more carries, while also having seven games of six or fewer carries, including four games in which he only carried once.

He ran mostly on quarterback draws, often in five wide sets, even near the goal line, where the Cavaliers often use Gilbert as their short yardage runner. Lake Travis did mix in the zone read, but I'm still not convinced he can run it in college. Maybe with Lache Seastrunk.

Throwing the ball, his accuracy and mechanics continue to look superb, as did his ability to throw on the run. The highlight video on his ESPN page shows him repeatedly throw strikes while rolling out to the left, as he does once in the Alice highlights. Just as impressive as his ability to throw while moving is his accuracy on short and intermediate route. Good quarterbacks have the height to manufacture passing lanes in the pocket, which Gilbert possesses, but also have the mechanics to get on top of the ball to keep the passes low and accurate so the wide receiver is the only player who can catch the pass, while even a defender in excellent position can generally only knock the ball down because of the low trajectory (also relying on the receiver blocking the defender with his body; see Quan Cosby).

Poor quarterbacks don't have the proper mechanics to consistently deliver those passes, often resulting in high passes that leave their receivers vulnerable to hard hits to the ribs or sailing high over the receiver, with the potential to be intercepted by deep safeties, or deflecting off a receiver's hands, also potentially resulting in interceptions. Watching him deliver on his intermediate throws means that Gilbert's low interception totals are not a result of luck, just a propensity for accurate throws.

There is no doubt that he's a good one, folks.

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Devon Kennard gets a visit. Last Monday, Bobby Kennedy, Oscar Giles, and Will Muschamp traveled to see the five-star defensive end in Arizona, visiting Kennard and his family in their home, which Kennard said went well. Muschamp no doubt put on the recruiting blitz, speaking to Kennard in person for the first time with both knowing that Muschamp will be at Texas next year and for the future. Muschamp can sell the Buck Package to Kennard, which will highlight Kennard's 4.7 speed and quickness. Expect to see more of it next year as Muschamp fully install his defense. The success of Sergio Kindle and Brian Orakpo this season should encourage Kennard about how he would be used at defensive end and it's hard to imagine that anyone could make a more positive impression on a defensive recruit than Will Muschamp.

Kennard is set to take his official visit to Austin on December 19, after seeing the Longhorns play in El Paso against UTEP earlier this season. He has already visited California, while set to take in USC this weekend, one school that has not discussed a Buck or hybrid DE/LB position with Kennard. He wants to make a decision by early January, but will wait until Signing Day if he is still undecided. Despite the sting of not playing in the Big 12 Championship game, the week off did allow the Texas staff to pay visits to Kennard and the next Longhorn target to discuss.

Moving inside. Kennard isn't the only nationally elite Longhorn target visiting the left coast. Lufkin star Jamarkus McFarland took in USC ($) and got his pitch from Pete Carroll, despite recently narrowing his list to Texas and OU in a rare interview. McFarland wanted to see a school farther from home and sounded impressed with the USC coaching staff, particularly former NFL star and USC linebackers coach, Ken Norton. Not to be outdone, Will Muschamp, Oscar Giles, Mac McWhorter, and Mike Tolleson all made the trip out to Lufkin ($) last Wednesday in their attempt to fortify the defensive tackle position next season. No word from McFarland about the visit, but Lufkin's head coach did come away impressed with Muschamp, as you might expect. McFarland remains an enigma because he speaks so rarely about his recruitment and makes it difficult to assess where Texas stands with him, but it would hurt badly right now to lose McFarland to OU.

Back to better thoughts. Nervousness will linger among Longhorn fans following recruiting until Kennard, McFarland, Dre Kirkpatrick, and Jarvis Jones make their decisions, which takes the focus away from the players who are committed to coming to Texas next fall. Pflugerville defensive end Alex Okafor is one of those players and a guy Will Muschamp will likely look at for the Buck Package regardless of whether Devon Kennard chooses the Longhorns.

At 6-5, 232 pounds, Okafor's quickness often drew double teams from opposing teams this season and helped him record 12 sacks and 54 total tackles. Looking to get playing time his freshman year, Okafor is enrolling in the spring, where he will focus on learning Muschamp's defense and adding some muscle, likely looking to add in the range of 10-15 pounds before next football season. His success led to invitations ($) to the Hawai'i/Polynesia-Mainland Bowl in Hawai'i this weekend and the US Army All-American game on January 3 in San Antonio. Joining Okafor will be Longhorn commits Tariq Allen, Marcus Davis, Calvin Howell, Garrett Porter, Greg Timmons, and Chris Whaley, as well as Jamarkus McFarland. Okafor says he will do his best to help recruit for the Longhorns at the event

Local product may get 2010 offer. Longhorn coaches don't have to travel far to get a look at McNeil's Kurt Killens (LSR #45), a junior linebacker who recorded ($) 112 tackles, seven sacks, two forced fumbles, and two fumbles recovered. His production has drawn the interest ($) of some major programs, including Alabama and LSU, with Killens also receiving attention from Texas A&M. Coincidentally, Killens was present for the beat down of the Aggies, as he was for several other home games this season.

At 6-3 and 215 pounds, the Round Rock product has the size necessary to play major college ball, while being athletic enough to run a 4.6, post a 34-inch vertical, and bench press 315 pounds. His film only shows the best plays, but he visibly closes on the ball well, looking fast to the naked eye, something that Scott Derry, for instance, could never achieve. He's not the most elite linebacking talent in the class because he doesn't possess elite athleticism and may not be on the level of Aaron Benson or Corey Nelson, but could end up filling out the linebacking class. The offer will come if Will Muschamp likes what he sees from the film Killens gave him recently and likes what he hears from the McNeil coaches when he visits the school in the near future.

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I thought I would mention too that

this Saturday in College Station, Lake Travis’ Gilbert and Friendswood’s Jacob Karam, a Texas Tech commit, will play at 2:00 p.m. on Kyle Field.

Go Raiders . . .
Double-T Nation

by Seth C on Dec 9, 2008 6:23 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Muschamp's package

No no, his BUCK package.

Can someone explain this scheme to me? I did a search but couldn’t come across a good explanation. Obviously it has much to do with how he utilizes the DE, but other than that I’m in the dark about how it differs.

by TXinDC on Dec 9, 2008 8:32 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

As I understand it

The Buck is a set of personnel that can rush the passer with 3 down linemen and drop 4 LB into coverage or rush 4 and drop 3 LB. It features a “Buck” LB/DE like Orakpo or Kindle that can rush effectively but is athletic enough to drop into coverage. It differs from a standard 3-4 at UT because we lack the huge nose tackle to play directly opposite the center (although Roy Miller filled that role many times this year) and tall, mobile DE’s that weigh around 285 that can tie up offensive linemen. One advantage is that the defense can shift from a 4-3 to a 3-4 after the offense gets set at the line of scrimmage. It also allows more freedom to move the “Buck” LB/DE around to different sides of the ball to exploit weaknesses in the offensive personnel or formation.

by burnt in ny on Dec 9, 2008 9:24 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Sounds like a Derrick Thomas falcon.

by burntorangehorn on Dec 9, 2008 9:30 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Howell

What are your thoughts on incoming DT Howell from San Antonio? I saw him play twice this year, both times against Reagan, and came away somewhat disappointed. As possibly the only Div 1 player in the game I figured he’d stand out and be dominant.

I am by no means qualified to evaluate talent, but he didn’t really stand out.

by Horncasting on Dec 9, 2008 9:42 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

I don't think Howell is expected to contribute right away

I haven’t seen him play, but with Randall and Humphrey already with a year in the program, they look like good candidates to start alongside Lamarr Houston, unless of course McFarland comes to UT, in which case he will likely have the inside track on the starting job. I think Howell is expected to contribute more down the road, but I could be wrong. Defensive tackles I think are hard to evaluate because the good ones in high school often get double or triple teamed, which frees up their teammates to make plays. The two big things to look for are how much they collapse the pocket and whether or not the other team can run the ball up the middle.

by GhostofBigRoy on Dec 9, 2008 12:41 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Garrett Gilbert is the...

Gatorade National Player of the Year, the first texas ever to win the national award. Congrats Garrett. See you on the 40.

http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/gatorade-national-football-player-of-the-year-garrett-gilbert,649527.shtml

by Reb10 on Dec 9, 2008 9:43 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

I have to wonder about the chances on Craig Loston, too. His cousin, Russell Shepard, says both of them are committed to LSU, but there’s the chance that LSU’s tanking could sway Loston toward UT. I don’t think Mack’s a fan of the recruiting process shenanigans Loston has pulled, though.

by burntorangehorn on Dec 9, 2008 10:21 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

he's a "me me me" kind of guy

wont lose sleep over this guy

by owenh on Dec 9, 2008 10:56 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Glad you went to the LT game

I went, but found it absolutely pointless to write about. Apparently you have a keener eye than I. Killeen’s secondary was tired at the end of the first half, and most of Gilbert’s big throws were about as wide open as you could ask for. I found very few opportunities for him to throw precision passes, but he showed flashes of that ability as well. One problem I noticed is that he sailed several quick screens, which will get you killed in GD’s offense. The interceptions weren’t much to worry about, I think. One was what looked like a called jump ball into double coverage where the DB just made a better play on the ball than the receiver, and the other was a freaking shovel pass that the RB tipped up into the air. I thought LT had four turnovers before the second team came in, which just shows you how much of a non-contest this was. Gilbert looks pretty good, but I think he’s going to suffer through the standard “Oh, he sucks, he’s not athletic, he makes mental mistakes,” crap that we get about all of our new QBs for a year or so before everyone is love with him. He’s just got to be able to make the easy throws consistently, and then I think he can be really good.

by Horn Brain on Dec 9, 2008 12:30 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Didn't go actually

My comments were from film I saw of the Allen game on Rivals and a Statesman article on the Killeen game. I did go see the Dripping Springs game, which is the video I put up that I linked to. As far as hitting the flare passes, he did so with great accuracy in the Dripping Springs game and those passes accounted for most of his 12 completions that day.

by GhostofBigRoy on Dec 9, 2008 12:37 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I was just going over some of our older recruiting classes wondering who was ranked high and how they’d turned out.

What happened with Eddie Jones? He was a big 5 star recruit. He redshirted, played last year, had a decent year for being his first to actually play, and then his production dropped off this year. What happened?

If we hit just one of those 5 stars and a couple of the 4 and 3 stars that are still out there, this could be a top 3 recruiting class. First since the VY class, right? Speaking of that class, what happened to these guys:
Marquis Johnson
Edorian McCullough
Bryan Pickryl
Rodrique Wright

Those are the other 5 stars from that class beside VY and Blalock (wow, 6 total!). Pickryl is the only one that even sounds familiar. Did they contribute but were just not big name guys? Did they bust?

What the heck did Mack do to get 6 5 stars in?!

by UT_BKC on Dec 9, 2008 3:36 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Roddy Wright had a good career at Texas

Although is NFL career has been derailed by the two shoulder surgeries he required after his senior season. As for the others, I don’t recall any of them ever playing.

by GhostofBigRoy on Dec 9, 2008 3:46 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

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Eddie Jones was hampered by a shoulder problem which immediately put him behind Acho on the depth chart. This year playing time was tough to come by with a healthy Orakpo, combined with a surprisingly good Melton, Acho, and in alot of instances Kindle. If Kindle leaves, Jones will probably start. If he stays Kindle and Jones will probably split carries. Keep in mind Jones still has 2 more years of eligibility.

Regarding the 2002 (VY) class. Keep in mind that Rivals decreased the number of 5 starts it gave out after the 2002 class. If it were done with the current star distribution it is likely only VY and maybe one other player would have gotten 5 stars. As for the specific players, here is the story:

Marquis Johnson – didn’t qualify academically. Went Juco hoping to get back to Texas, but we never recruited him again. Went to Texas Tech for a year and didn’t do anything of note. Became a Longhorn internet legend for the number of message board posts asking what ever happened to him.

Edorian McCullough – potentially the most physically gifted DB in the Mack Brown era. Played his freshman year showing flashes of potential and then failed out. Eventually wound up at Oregon.

Bryan Pickryl – another guy that showed great potential his freshman year. Had a recurring problem with his shoulder seperating. Had surgery to fix it and made an attempt at a comeback but couldn’t stay healthy enough to play.

Rod Wright – Looked tremendous playing as a true freshman and had very good soph. and jr. years. Sr. production fell off and it was revealed after the year that he had a shoulder problem. Drafted by the Dolphins.

by Horncasting on Dec 9, 2008 4:11 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Bryan Pickryl and Eddie Jones

Pickryl was a star on the DL his freshman year, but an injury limited his performance as a soph and I don’t even think he played much as a senior.

Eddie Jones backed up Orakpo and Melton at DE. He should be a key performer next year. He played more last year because of Rak’s knee injury.

by burnt in ny on Dec 9, 2008 4:01 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Edorian-

He went to a JUCO after Texas then ended up playing or Oregon St.. I think he ended up playing for the Jaguars. I have no idea where he is at now..

I remember when he committed, it was on the front page of the sports section in the Dallas Morning News.

by Hookem4life84 on Dec 9, 2008 4:13 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

When Edorian committed

I was at a rental car company in San Antonio. I was using a Longhorn visa and the rental car guy had gone to A&M and was pissed beyond belief about losing him to Texas. He went off about the $#$# sips and how we’d paid to get his commitment and that we’d never get him into school anyway. I never brought it up or said a word and I seriously thought the guy was going to hit me. The manager ended up having to finish with my reservation and they send the wack job to the back.

by Horncasting on Dec 9, 2008 4:19 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Edorian had big time speed and showed flashes.

But he blew out of school too soon to really contribute. Loved his name, though.

Mack is usually pretty strong on academic background, something that I think he has become more serious about in the course of his stay here.

The worst has been Baylor; one year they lost a third of their recruits when they couldn’t qualify. That’s one place where Briles can be a lot smarter than his predecessors.

by whills on Dec 9, 2008 7:28 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

really?

Rod Wright may have underperformed, but he was a steady contributor. He was drafted in the 7th round by the Dolphins. I can’t believe that you don’t remember him at least. I’m not trying to sound like I know all of those other guys, but don’t you remember he’s the one that picked up the fumble after Robison Bomar’d Bomar and scored in the 2005 RRR?

by vy til i die on Dec 10, 2008 12:06 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

It’s funny how these individual and team rankings wind up a lot of times. It appears we had 3 of the best players in the country come in and they couldn’t cut it grade wise. How good are we if they do? How good are we if instead of using a scholarship on them, we give it to a lower ranked player who we know can make the grades and will spend 4 years developing here?

Look at Gideon, for example. He was a 2 star recruit. Yes, he dropped the ball that would have sent us to the NC, but his ‘over achieving’ as a true freshman is a lot of the reason we are at 11-1 instead of 9-3.

Another example would be the Rodgers brothers at OSU.

I just find it interesting that if you go back in time and rerank these guys (accounting for transfering to JUCO or failing) you get a much different picture.

by UT_BKC on Dec 9, 2008 4:30 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

68.8%?

Hardly Texas caliber.

by hayzer13 on Dec 9, 2008 11:35 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Rod Wright

Rod Wright’s career was almost identical to Frank Okam’s. Both were dominant in their first two seasons, but struggled with weight and double-team issues.
Both, however, were 3-4 year starters, good students and represented the University quite well

by Longhorn90 on Dec 10, 2008 12:33 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

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