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Texas Longhorns at Villanova Wildcats, Dec 9, 2008 8:50 PM CST


#6 Texas (6-1) vs. #12/15 Villanova (8-0)

Jimmy V Classic

Madison Square Garden (19,391)

New York, NY

Tip Time 8 pm

TV: ESPN (Dan Shulman and Dick Vitale)

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not as strong

But Scottie Reynolds is a beast of a guard, to be sure. Contain him, and I think we win.

by junglerules on Dec 9, 2008 8:35 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Ya'll have fun...

… my TV’s in the other room. I’ll come say “Damn!” or “Dayum!” at halftime, depending on how I think it’s going.

by Horn Brain on Dec 9, 2008 7:59 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Oh, hey

Didn’t we recruit (Devin?) Ebanks?

by Horn Brain on Dec 9, 2008 8:12 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

He is killing them

16 boards??

I wish he would have come to Texas a little

Adopt-a-recruit: Devon Kennard DE
Phoenix (AZ) Desert Vista 6'3" 257lbs

by blazzinken on Dec 9, 2008 8:15 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

oh 17

Adopt-a-recruit: Devon Kennard DE
Phoenix (AZ) Desert Vista 6'3" 257lbs

by blazzinken on Dec 9, 2008 8:16 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Ebanks

had some freaking adrenaline on the last shot!

May Colt be with you. Yeah, that's right.

by bfaut86 on Dec 9, 2008 8:32 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

would be nice if this were a tournament

I would love to play Davidson tomorrow. An AJ vs. Curry matchup would be a lot of fun.

by hayzer13 on Dec 9, 2008 8:37 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Watching on ESPN360

Killer mellow music during the interlude.

May Colt be with you. Yeah, that's right.

by bfaut86 on Dec 9, 2008 8:41 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

over/under on north carolina references by vitale tonight?

or maybe he can give us a preview of the unc/duke game that is only 2 months and 2 days away?

by hayzer13 on Dec 9, 2008 8:47 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

here we go

hook em horns!

by hayzer13 on Dec 9, 2008 9:00 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

me, too

I like us not letting them dictate the action- we’re going with Dex and making them adjust to OUR game, not the other way around.

by junglerules on Dec 9, 2008 9:03 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

3 possessions

3 turnovers for Nova

--PB--

by Peter Bean on Dec 9, 2008 9:04 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Abrams needs

to keep hydrated to prevent cramp

by GoHorns1 on Dec 9, 2008 9:04 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

seems like we're only going to Dex in the paint

might as well get Atch and Damion involved down there too.

by bklynBEVO on Dec 9, 2008 9:08 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

how many pounds

Pittman has lost this year?

by GoHorns1 on Dec 9, 2008 9:09 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Whew

That was a near posterization

by bklynBEVO on Dec 9, 2008 9:13 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I like what Ward did there

We need our guards to penetrate like that…. He went at his man twice.

by the1austin on Dec 9, 2008 9:16 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

PB was right about Gary

That was not a great shot

by the1austin on Dec 9, 2008 9:17 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

on offense

moving james out to the perimeter seems to totally kill atchley’’s strengths. we can’t have both of them just standing out there. takes away our spacing.

by hayzer13 on Dec 9, 2008 9:17 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Slopfest

Nova turning it over like crazy

--PB--

by Peter Bean on Dec 9, 2008 9:18 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

12-10 Nova under 12:00 timeout

Still waiting on Gary Johnson’s first pass of the season

--PB--

by Peter Bean on Dec 9, 2008 9:19 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

are y'all talking about the team

or the weather?

May Colt be with you. Yeah, that's right.

by bfaut86 on Dec 9, 2008 9:20 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Chappy again

Kept that alive for Ward

--PB--

by Peter Bean on Dec 9, 2008 9:22 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Ward!

Nice pass Abrams

--PB--

by Peter Bean on Dec 9, 2008 9:23 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Who is this Ward

you speak of?

May Colt be with you. Yeah, that's right.

by bfaut86 on Dec 9, 2008 9:25 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Snowing like crazy...

here in Cedar Park (NW Austin), I’d hear anything about this from the weatherman…………which explains why its snowing.

by silky51 on Dec 9, 2008 9:27 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Pretty.

I like this rotation, let AJ create with the bench, then put the starters in whit Dougas to distribute.

by ctex80 on Dec 9, 2008 9:29 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Jesus

Cunningham won’t miss

--PB--

by Peter Bean on Dec 9, 2008 9:29 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Found a new way to stay sober.

Drink when Johnson attempts to pass the ball.

by Nacho91 on Dec 9, 2008 9:29 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

DAMION!

May Colt be with you. Yeah, that's right.

by bfaut86 on Dec 9, 2008 9:29 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Proud KD

comes back to finish the school

by GoHorns1 on Dec 9, 2008 9:32 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Great entry

AJ to DaMo

--PB--

by Peter Bean on Dec 9, 2008 9:34 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

wow great pass aj

ward… not so much

by hayzer13 on Dec 9, 2008 9:34 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I think Rick told DaMO

why don’t you go get a rebound

Hook'em

by desi_horn on Dec 9, 2008 9:35 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

timeouts during longhorn basketball games means somebody’s gonna get yelled at for not playing defense.

and it’ll continue all the way through timeout and into the first possession following.

by APinAustin on Dec 9, 2008 9:37 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

thats great

it means aj will always play hard defense cause getting chewed out in front of scouts could hurt his first round draft chances

by hayzer13 on Dec 9, 2008 9:39 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

at the ucla game

rick took maybe four timeouts after our bigs jumped away from collison on the pick and roll and gave him an open shot. and during each one, he chewed out one of our bigs. and they wouldn’t dare say anything back or even look away. it was hilarious. and awesome.

by APinAustin on Dec 9, 2008 9:43 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I ♥ Damion

May Colt be with you. Yeah, that's right.

by bfaut86 on Dec 9, 2008 9:37 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Archtley needs

some tiger bam on his ankle and he will back to the court at no time

by GoHorns1 on Dec 9, 2008 9:38 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Ack

Gotta finish that

--PB--

by Peter Bean on Dec 9, 2008 9:40 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

sLOPPY

May Colt be with you. Yeah, that's right.

by bfaut86 on Dec 9, 2008 9:42 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

C'mon Pittman

look before you pass

by GoHorns1 on Dec 9, 2008 9:43 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

balbay gets called for way too many ticky tack fouls

by APinAustin on Dec 9, 2008 9:45 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Ah crap

good penetration by Balbay but has to control himself once he gets into the paint. He’s not used to the floppers here in America.

by goingforthecorner on Dec 9, 2008 9:45 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

floppers in America?

i thought all of the blame for flopping was going to the influx of foreigners?

by longhornscardinals on Dec 9, 2008 9:46 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

True

but there is a lot of flopping going on in college too. And we know college is pretty much 99.99% American players

by goingforthecorner on Dec 9, 2008 9:47 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

probably 80-20 villanova.

even the casual fans with no affiliation are rooting for villanova, but we have a lot of alumni in NYC.

by DrunkArmadillo on Dec 9, 2008 9:46 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Ward has been aggressive

Given us some good minutes, but he has 2 costly turnovers. Still, I like that he pushes the ball up the floor when he can and attacks the basket. He’s had a good half.

by the1austin on Dec 9, 2008 9:46 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Uh-oh,

Final possession of the half. This could get ugly.

by ctex80 on Dec 9, 2008 9:47 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

It was productive this time

With Mason, Ward, Abrams, Balbay, and James, you have 5 players that are capable of driving to the basket. I wish we could see this more often.

by goingforthecorner on Dec 9, 2008 9:49 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Chris Mullin

I loved that Golden State team with him and Hardaway and Mitch Richmond.

by the1austin on Dec 9, 2008 9:50 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

This team is DEEP.

6 points at the half, Abrams playing very composed, solid bench contribution. Nova playing sloppy, but Cunningham is killing us.

by ctex80 on Dec 9, 2008 9:51 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

wright says nova playing "too fast"

hopefully our depth can wear them down in the second half and we can keep reynolds down.

by DrunkArmadillo on Dec 9, 2008 9:51 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Kind of what you'd expect

We’re outscoring their bench 9 to 0. Only 3 players from Nova have scored!

by goingforthecorner on Dec 9, 2008 9:52 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Deep, team, etc.

but color me “unimpressed.”

May Colt be with you. Yeah, that's right.

by bfaut86 on Dec 9, 2008 9:52 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

colt on tirico/van pelt

anyone have a (non-espn insider) link where i can hear his interview today? i heard it was really good.

by hayzer13 on Dec 9, 2008 10:02 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

it was the standard “say the right things” fare until the last couple of minutes. at which point he told mike and scott he went “spotlighting” on saturday night to shoot at some “varmints”…to take out some of his anger of not being in the big 12 title game.

yes, he said varmints. good stuff

by APinAustin on Dec 9, 2008 10:04 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

sorry i don’t have a link though. i heard it replayed on 1530 espn radio during the evening.

by APinAustin on Dec 9, 2008 10:05 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

jimmy v foundation

i heard that all of the money donated is actually applied toward research. they don’t use these donations for administrative purposes, etc.

good cause.

by DrunkArmadillo on Dec 9, 2008 10:02 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

why do we pick up our dribble??

this team needs to learn more ballhandling skills because very time i see anyone other than mason play with the ball, after 3 seconds they pick up their dribble. it kills the offense and it gives the defense an easier time to trap. if we just improve on this, we’re a top 5 team hands down

by CaliforniaHorn on Dec 9, 2008 10:10 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

why doesn't Dex use two hands to dunk?

probably gets the basket plus the foul. can he not get off the ground for it?

by longhornscardinals on Dec 9, 2008 10:12 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Connor with a turnover...

He just doesn’t look like the player I saw last year…

by the1austin on Dec 9, 2008 10:13 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Patience

This team is still growing into itself offensively. Connor’s been fine.

--PB--

by Peter Bean on Dec 9, 2008 10:15 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I tell you what

We’re up by 7, but it’s really more like we’re up by 12-13, because our defense is just dominating them. They can’t score on a consistent basis at all.

by goingforthecorner on Dec 9, 2008 10:14 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Chappy's gotta start finishing

So close to being great tonight

--PB--

by Peter Bean on Dec 9, 2008 10:16 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

flashes of some serious potential

saw it for about 2 mins in the first half against ucla. even if his solid production only comes for 3-5 mins a game, i like the spark he provides.

by hayzer13 on Dec 9, 2008 10:18 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah he's close

At least on offense. Real close. On defense his feet are soooo slow.

--PB--

by Peter Bean on Dec 9, 2008 10:19 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

sadly though

once his burst ends, it goes way downhill. like the rest of the ucla game.

by hayzer13 on Dec 9, 2008 10:19 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Cunningham

Incredible game. Single-handedly keeping them in this.

--PB--

by Peter Bean on Dec 9, 2008 10:20 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

It seems to me like we are dominating this game.

The only reason Villanova is even in this game is because that Cunningham guy is on fire. You just can’t defend someone who is on fire.

by HornPossessed on Dec 9, 2008 10:21 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Man, I LOVE our defense!

They just scored, but if we can maintain that intensity, we will win this running away.

No matter how bad you’re struggling on offense, a great defense can keep you in games. This D can carry us a long way.

by goingforthecorner on Dec 9, 2008 10:21 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Very bad shot AJ

Take your damn time on offense.

by goingforthecorner on Dec 9, 2008 10:23 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Grrrr

C’mon guys. Getting away from everything we’ve done well the first 25 minutes.

--PB--

by Peter Bean on Dec 9, 2008 10:23 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Bad pass by Mason

As good as our defense is, our offense is just as bad. As the season goes along, we have to find a way to improve this offense without lowering our defense execution.

by goingforthecorner on Dec 9, 2008 10:25 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

PB, as to Atchley

In the last 5 game (not including tonight where he hasn’t scored) he is averaging 6.2 points and 1.5 rebounds a game. He’s only taken 28 shots and 15 of them have been 3 pointers. I realize this team is playing a lot of new guys, and is trying to find its offensive identity, but those are not good numbers. Obviously, the season is young….

by the1austin on Dec 9, 2008 10:30 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

yea

Atchley has been a disappointment thus far.

by clra2 on Dec 9, 2008 10:30 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

What's the deal with the offensive rebounds

seems like other teams are getting a lot against Texas.

by Kool Hand on Dec 9, 2008 10:30 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

damnit, it has fufilled my predication

on ULCA game…. it’s a no easy game for this nova guys

by GoHorns1 on Dec 9, 2008 10:31 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Yes!

Johnson asserting himself. Great to see, and comes at a time when Texas really needed it.

by Kool Hand on Dec 9, 2008 10:32 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Chappy with another hustle play

Those shots start falling and he’s going to be a star

by 40AS on Dec 9, 2008 10:32 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I forget GJ is the mean one.

He can get more mean in three seconds than Dex in a month of Sundays.

by whills on Dec 9, 2008 10:32 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Make the free throws Gary...

And it was nice to see us get an offensive rebound

by the1austin on Dec 9, 2008 10:34 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

OMG free throws are killing us

Then again, our whole offense is killing us.

Realistically, while I expect the offense to improve throughout the season, it’s not going to become a great offensive team. We have to deal with this all year.

by goingforthecorner on Dec 9, 2008 10:35 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

i like balbay's disposition.

if we could put balbay’s disposition in chapman, yikes.

by DrunkArmadillo on Dec 9, 2008 10:36 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Now I can see why Barnes is OK with AJ chucking up shots

Sadly, it may be our best chance of scoring. We can feed it inside, but it’s no point if they can’t convert their FTs.

by goingforthecorner on Dec 9, 2008 10:37 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

No no no no

There’s a huge difference between AJ shooting indiscriminately, and AJ shooting within the offense. He’s doing the latter tonight.

--PB--

by Peter Bean on Dec 9, 2008 10:39 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I know, but

Rick has essentially condoned AJ’s chucking in the Notre Dame game. He’s OK with it because we don’t really have many options.

But today is much better. He has 12 shots so far. Pretty much where it should be.

by goingforthecorner on Dec 9, 2008 10:40 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Does anyone else get nervous

when Mason’s handling the ball at point?

by StanTheCaddy on Dec 9, 2008 10:38 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Less so than ever before

I was terrified when the year began. He’s exceeded my expectations. And continues to improve.

--PB--

by Peter Bean on Dec 9, 2008 10:39 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

On offense, we're prone to turnovers

on defense, the other team is prone to turning the ball over against us.

by goingforthecorner on Dec 9, 2008 10:41 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

these offensive rebounds are KILLING me

by APinAustin on Dec 9, 2008 10:42 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Barnes needs to forget about AJ playing point.

He’s much better as a 2 guard who can concentrate on just scoring.

by StanTheCaddy on Dec 9, 2008 10:45 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Live and die

by AJ? Does not bode well for the season.

May Colt be with you. Yeah, that's right.

by bfaut86 on Dec 9, 2008 10:45 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Just seems to keep being that way

Obviously, I’m no expert.

May Colt be with you. Yeah, that's right.

by bfaut86 on Dec 9, 2008 10:48 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Rather

it rarely looks easy on offense.

by Kool Hand on Dec 9, 2008 10:48 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Scrappy is the one word I'd use

Scrappy ball won’t win us a championship. UNC would probably murder our defense, but we can still go to the Elite Eight.

by goingforthecorner on Dec 9, 2008 10:48 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

To be fair...

Reynolds put his shoulder into Connor and drew that foul…not much you can do to stop it.

by HornPossessed on Dec 9, 2008 10:48 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yay Damion

May Colt be with you. Yeah, that's right.

by bfaut86 on Dec 9, 2008 10:48 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Nice stats for James

accrued in a quiet, under-the-radar manner.

by Kool Hand on Dec 9, 2008 10:49 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Damion Love

May Colt be with you. Yeah, that's right.

by bfaut86 on Dec 9, 2008 10:49 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Huge

I’m loving this team already, reminds me of the ’04 team

by 40AS on Dec 9, 2008 10:50 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Best team effort of the year

Incredibly impressive development of this team so far this year. Amazing.

--PB--

by Peter Bean on Dec 9, 2008 10:50 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Hello Offense

There’s that sweet ball movement, penetrate and kick style we enjoy.

by Kool Hand on Dec 9, 2008 10:50 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

From what I'm seeing for the most part

AJ is ending the play rather than starting it. That’s how it should be.

by goingforthecorner on Dec 9, 2008 10:51 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

what does todd wright do on the bench?

i just imagine him saying “bust his ass”.

by DrunkArmadillo on Dec 9, 2008 10:51 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Don't be hurt

C’mon Justin!

That looked painful

by 40AS on Dec 9, 2008 10:51 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

that was fucking dirty

Reynolds attempted a reach around on Mason!

by Kool Hand on Dec 9, 2008 10:52 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

not sure what the disdain for mason at PG is...

he might not find the passes so easy yet, but that’ll come with experience. his eyes will open wider and wider as he gains experience.

he’s fantastic at handling the ball though… good control and keeps his dribble when most would pick it up.

by longhornscardinals on Dec 9, 2008 10:55 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

agreed

we’ve just been spoiled. we need to not try to compare him to dj or tj. Ivey is more realistic and he is definitely getting there.

by hayzer13 on Dec 9, 2008 10:58 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I really loved ivey

before I fell in love with damion

May Colt be with you. Yeah, that's right.

by bfaut86 on Dec 9, 2008 10:59 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

They're calling shit fouls.

They aren’t letting us play close on D at all, just calling fouls if we get anywhere near someone.

by HornPossessed on Dec 9, 2008 10:55 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Close games are good

for viewership, obviously.

May Colt be with you. Yeah, that's right.

by bfaut86 on Dec 9, 2008 10:57 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I like the hustle

but we should’ve taken it back out once we got the offensive rebound.

by goingforthecorner on Dec 9, 2008 11:00 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Haha!

What an outlet pass by Villanova!

by HornPossessed on Dec 9, 2008 11:00 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

lucky mason.

by APinAustin on Dec 9, 2008 11:01 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Cunningham finishing off the game

in a manner I approve of. Probably tired after a night of playing 1on 5.

by Kool Hand on Dec 9, 2008 11:01 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

The ball movement!

The crisp reversals! The vision! Is this a Rick Barnes offense?!

I love it!

--PB--

by Peter Bean on Dec 9, 2008 11:03 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I am pleasantly surprised

Offense still has a lot of work to do, but our defense is just outstanding.

I did not expect a win like this on a neutral court (leaning towards road game). Thought it would go down to the wire.

by goingforthecorner on Dec 9, 2008 11:05 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

'Nova is really not that good

May Colt be with you. Yeah, that's right.

by bfaut86 on Dec 9, 2008 11:09 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

mmmm....tasty defense

For now, it compensates for the FT shooting.

by Kool Hand on Dec 9, 2008 11:05 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

My day was salvaged when the Spurs beat the Mavs in 2OT.

It saves me from worrying too much about the 10 page paper I have to write that’s due tomorrow…

by HornPossessed on Dec 9, 2008 11:07 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

sweet.

hook em horns.

by hayzer13 on Dec 9, 2008 11:07 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

maybe just not on the “family” of networks?

by APinAustin on Dec 9, 2008 11:08 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Hell yes!

Outstanding win

--PB--

by Peter Bean on Dec 9, 2008 11:12 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

definitely one of those notable “help with the tourney seeding” wins

by APinAustin on Dec 9, 2008 11:17 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Leading rebounder: Varez Ward !!

Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. If they get mad, you're a mile away AND you have their shoes.

by Caradoc on Dec 9, 2008 11:22 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

wow

Both Bilas and Digger think Texas will be the #1 seed in the south.

by hayzer13 on Dec 9, 2008 11:23 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Nice words coach...

Texas should be the #1 seed at the south region

by GoHorns1 on Dec 9, 2008 11:24 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

wow, i peeped out the window

every car is covering snow. i can’t believe the weather can changed day and night that fast

by GoHorns1 on Dec 9, 2008 11:25 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

meanwhile i am stuck with texas weather...

in tennessee. won’t stop raining, will probably be ice come morning.

by hayzer13 on Dec 9, 2008 11:30 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

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