Texas Rolls To Eighth Straight: Open Celebration Thread
Texas takes down KSU on the road, adding yet another marquis victory to Texas' amazing resume.
Sadly, I didn't see this video until just now, but for our post-game celebration thread, a nod to the Man of Manhattan, Chum, and his KSU-Texas pregame hype video.
God I love this Texas team...
11-2 in Big 12 play. 24-4 overall. Dream big, Longhorn fans.
--PB--
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Texas Fight
Yes! Yesss! Oh, let me taste your tears, Beasley! Oh, the tears of unfathomable sadness!
Come on Beasley, grow up and put on a better face. You've got the whole Stephon Marbury pout down pat.
I may just be a biased Longhorn fan, but it seems like the major difference between Kevin Durant and Michael Beasley is attitude. Both players, while statistically dominant, played on teams that performed less than stellar at times. Yet when I saw Durant play last year, he seemed to be enjoying the game, playing within the system and making his teammates better. When I see Beasley play, I see someone who's bigger, stronger and faster than everyone else out there, but he comes off as an arrogant individual, and not a team player. Obviously, this is all qualitative personal assessment, but it's valid in my book. While Beasley may be having a better season statistically, it's no contest in my book: I'd take last year's Kevin Durant over this year's Michael Beasley any day of the week.
On another note, it's a shame that DJ Augustin will be overshadowed yet again for Big XII POY honors. He truly deserves a spot as one of the five best players in the nation. I know the argument's favored TJ Ford over on these discussion boards, but with DJ's ability to shoot, I'm banking on him to be the more successful pro of the two.
I'm officially tallying my vote: after DJ, Connor Atchley is my favorite player on this team. Assuming we're not counting the 40 year old virgin, Ian Mooney.
Going to the Box and 1: another point for Barnes, another egg on Bill Simmons' face.
Got a busy week at work, so my posting/reading may be light, but just wanted to get my basketball thoughts in.
by jc25 on Feb 25, 2008 11:16 PM CST 0 recs
DEEP NCAA Run On Tap
They did it! UT ran the table on a challenging 5 game stretch, which included wins over KU, K State in Manhattan, and some very talented NCAA tournament quality teams from the South. This is a great sign that UT is focused, talented and cohesive late in the season.
At this point winning the game in Lubbock would be nice, but it may be better if the Horns come out a little flat and taste defeat one more time before the games start to count. As some other posters mentioned on the game thread, UT has a history of reading their own press a little too much. No need to have them cocky and blow it in the 2nd round of the NCAA's because they thought their resume would win the game.
A loss in Lubbock would be more excusable than either of the two remaining home games, and may well inspire them to come back and tear through the Big XII tournament and then tear through the NCAA's. This 2008 Texas Longhorn squad has all of the pieces to go to the Final Four. Only their mental state of mind can get in their way now. And face it, are they really capable of winning 20 straight games (which is what it would be to win out the season, win the Big XII and the NCAA's)? Winning 11 straight games seems much more doable.
I'm not advocating Barnes throw the game, but if they should happen to lose in Lubbock it isn't necessarily all bad.
by RkyMtnHorn on Feb 25, 2008 11:19 PM CST 0 recs
I don't think we'll lose to Tech even if we...
come out flat. Barnes has their number.
I agree with you that another loss might help this team stay focused. However, I would prefer it to be in the Big 12 tourney.
by longhorn00 on
Feb 25, 2008 11:37 PM CST
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DJ, DJ, AJ GJ
and Dr. A!
6-6 (2-2 3PT) = 14 pts in 14 minutes.
You know what I'm sayin'?
by horndude on Feb 25, 2008 11:19 PM CST 0 recs
Where's MRS. ATCHLEY?
she deserves a big hug, because that kid got dirty over the summer.
we gotta get a connor highlight video on youtube.
connor makes our offense hum and our defense sting.

by cortexas on Feb 25, 2008 11:26 PM CST 0 recs
Sick.
The play I saw from Connor Atchley tonight was incredible. When he wasn't nailing ice cold 3 pointers, he was busy denying entry passes to Beasley and rebounding like a madman. Big, big props to Connor.
And oh yeah, AJ Abrams. God you could hear the crowd hold its breath every time he so much as looked at the ball. That three late in the fourth was the kind of thing, that as a Kansas State fan, totally deflates you. Ice. Effing. Cold.
And DJ was DJ. Seriously, we all loved TJ, but tonight I think DJ showed that he can be better. Its the composure he showed late in the game. So much of Texas' controlled play could be attributed to his game tonight; this is the kind of PG a team needs to make a deep run in March. This kind of play from DJ puts us way ahead of the curve.
Also, someone please make Texas shoot like 23084723984723 free throws before the tournament!
by pleaseplaykindle on Feb 25, 2008 11:31 PM CST 0 recs
How about some love for The Wingman
While he did goaltend and a couple of his blocks were after fouls, Wangmene was playing volleyball tonight with some phenomenal swats.
Opinions vary, but nothing in basketball gets my blood going faster than a monster block and Wangmene was putting on a show. This is not, of course, to denigrate or ignore Dr. A's (+1 to horndude) mighty blocking and defense tonight.
Hooray for powerful interior defense!
by Kahuna on Feb 25, 2008 11:33 PM CST 0 recs
Abrams Milestone
Someone pointed out that AJ Abrams is the all-time three point shot leader at UT. Can someone verify? I have no idea. If it's true, that's awesome. We love you, AJ. Now go drain some more.
by Horn Brain on Feb 25, 2008 11:45 PM CST 0 recs
Found it
After trouncing OU, AJ was two shy of the record. I guess they're going to name a trophy after him, now.
Here.
Scroll down.
by Horn Brain on
Feb 25, 2008 11:51 PM CST
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How many more does he need
to break Reddick's record? That would finally bring closure to the ass wooping he gave us in NJ.
by Wells on
Feb 26, 2008 6:41 AM CST
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For his career?
Unfortunately I think he's only about half way to Redicks's record.
by TheJeezus on
Feb 26, 2008 8:28 AM CST
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I looked at it earlier this year
and he was on pace to beat Redick's record IF UT makes deep runs in the NCAA Tournament this year and next year.
by Wells on
Feb 26, 2008 8:38 AM CST
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Amazing
Here's what KSU head coach Frank Martin said after the game.
"They're big. They're so darn big. They're long and they pressure you. They're a good team."
Who the hell thought any coach would be making those comments about our team anytime this season?
When the season started, I was worrying that Barnes would be saying these things anytime we play a big team. Not anymore.
Connor is literally an unbreakable object in the paint (but he needs to stop getting in foul trouble; only played 14 minutes today). Wingman is developing as an elite defensive role player before our very eyes. If Johnson can stay tough play through excruciating pain with his broken nose, he's another force on D and the boards. Not to mention that both James and Mason play bigger than their size.
by goingforthecorner on Feb 25, 2008 11:48 PM CST 0 recs
That's not the same guy
There's no way in hell this year's Connor Atchley is the same dude as last year. It's just not possible. Imagining that in my head is like trying to imagine infinity.
Great team effort all around tonight. Who would have thought any time before the break that depth would become one of our assets. Look at the quality minutes we're getting off the bench. Just an incredible job by Barnes.
On a side note, all this talk about Gary's heart condition. What about his freaking nose condition? Jesus. If my nose was broken repeatedly and kept getting hammered like that, I'd be rolled up in a fetal position crying my eyes out in the locker room. That man is tough as nails.
by Meekrob on Feb 25, 2008 11:53 PM CST 0 recs
Wangmene....
never thought that kid we be on the floor before Pittman this year.
Wangmene is a beast.

by cortexas on Feb 25, 2008 11:58 PM CST 0 recs
Wangmene the Dream?
First time I saw the Wingman I thought of Hakeem Olajuwon in his freshman year. Turns out he's having a better year than Hakeem did. His body will continue to develop, and all he needs is a patented offensive move. Has Kareem's patent on the skyhook expired?
by Caradoc on
Feb 26, 2008 10:29 AM CST
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Box and One
We need to keep that one in our deck of cards. Incredibly effective with our length and speed.
Did anyone else hear Ron Franklin say "Cutting the heart out of the zone"? Gruesome.
by anonyMoose on Feb 26, 2008 12:22 AM CST 0 recs
Time to chime in with some love for Justin Mason
Mason was all over the place again. His bad stretch seems like so long ago now. He did well as the "one" in the box and one, he was also a big part of holding Bill Walker to one point, and he had two consecutive driving layups right when the offense was looking lost and we needed a lift.
by JudenSmithFan on Feb 26, 2008 12:31 AM CST 0 recs
Hmm
Box score shows Jay with three points. I'm obviously going nuts, I thought I remembered him hitting two layups in a row there.
by JudenSmithFan on
Feb 26, 2008 12:33 AM CST
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Second drive
got fouled I think, but did not make the layup.
by Wells on
Feb 26, 2008 6:45 AM CST
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3 games left
One more victory ties our all-time record for wins in the regular season (25, set 2 years ago). I'd say our chances are better than good.
Watching the 8-game win streak, I can't help but think that there's no such thing as an unfavorable matchup for the Horns anymore. It used to be big teams with inside muscle (UCLA/A&M/KU), but we can handle that. Our defense can calm any offense enough for us to outscore them (Baylor/other UT/KSU). As of now, I don't think any other team matches up favorably to us.
by BigTexBD on Feb 26, 2008 12:32 AM CST 0 recs
What would our worst matchup be?
Depth is still a real issue for us, I think, especially on a night like tonight when guys are getting into foul trouble. Any team that's really good at drawing fouls is going to be dangerous to us. So would a team like Memphis, which tries to turn it into an endurance contest, running up and down the floor, then bringing in a new set of 5 fresh players while the other team's starters play winded.
by JudenSmithFan on Feb 26, 2008 12:39 AM CST 0 recs
So, on to Tech...
I believe Rick Barnes' final record against Bobby Knight ended up being 13-2. That's gotta be the best record any opposing coach ever posted against Knight, right?
by JudenSmithFan on Feb 26, 2008 12:51 AM CST 0 recs
great win!
Guys, this team is badass. Another fun game to watch, even if it was ugly at times in the first half. I hope you read my latest diary on this team and weigh in. Just never had this much fun following any Texas team outside the 2005 football team, but even then, they were so damn dominant it wasnt really fun most of the season.
Anyway, a quick thought on some of your guys' thoughts that we should lose to get the taste of defeat once more to get refocused.
Two words: FU&^ That! The New York Giants clearly turned the corner in some odd way in December, and they just didn't turn down the volume until the last snap of the season was finished. This team needs to do the same. We can't have any doubt creeping into the heads of James, Augustin, and ESPECIALLY our youonger freshmen come tournament time. An abysmall showing might just do that. It's really amazing how momentum works. As good as we're going now, we could revert back to some old, unfavorable tendencies quickly if we're not getting the same types of contributions from Wingman, Chap, Gary, et. al.
We can run the table. No need to slow down now. I don't think focus or maturity is an issue. DJ's our general and for being so young, he's dam even kieled and poised out there. He and Abrams in particular won't let this team feel too good about itself just yet. Not this year.
by Blitzburgh on Feb 26, 2008 1:14 AM CST 0 recs
I've never understood
the "losing now will help us later" philosophy. It doesn't make any sense. "We're on a roll, playing the best basketball of anyone in the country....you know what we could really use? For someone to STOP this momentum and for us to have less time to get it back before the tournament starts! Yeah, that's the ticket! Learning how to deal with a loss will help us prepare for a single-elimination tournament WAY more than winning all our games!"
It just seems to have been made up by coaches as a motivational tool or by announcers as something contradictory to say post-hoc, and has subsequently been adopted by some who say it before a game in a misguided attempt to make it seem like they're a step ahead of everyone. I don't know. I've just never bought it. Seems like wild conjecture to me.
by billyzane on
Feb 26, 2008 2:31 AM CST
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AMEN TO THAT
I think it's a vestige of so many years of being near-great, able to run with Jayhawks once in a while but never quite being in the same league. So we reimagine inevitable losses as good things. The KUs of the world surely don't do that. This year, for the first time since '03 I guess, we are among the KUs of the world. No need to justify defeat before we even play!
by NYCHorn on
Feb 26, 2008 6:31 AM CST
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I Disagree
Let's rethink that argument, BZ. I mean, I don't think there's a single BONer here that doesn't think the A&M loss wasn't a wake-up call for Mack & Co.
We were coasting along winning close games and most of the so-called fans with only a 4-month interest in Longhorns football were saying "Wow! This team is full of gamers!" While those of us that are died-in-the-wool bleeding Burnt Orange obsessive fans that record every game and dissect every play realized, "Oh man...we'll be lucky to beat UCF."
The A&M loss was huge for the program. You can't deny it.
by Bombilla on
Feb 26, 2008 10:51 AM CST
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Apples and Oranges
You're speaking of that A&M loss sparking a programmatic revival over the course of the preparation for a bowl game and an offseason leading into a new season - one that had more to do with the coaches than the players. I'm speaking of those who claim that losing a game at the end of the regular season will somehow help a team go all the way in the postseason.
As Wells noted, it's impossible to know how motivations work, but it's certainly counter-intuitive. If a team is playing well at the end of the regular season, on a roll in fact, I'm not sure how a loss is better than a win. You can rationalize it as "not that bad," but I don't see how losing your momentum right before the tournament is better than maintaining it.
This is a very different thing than the A&M football game. That team was not on a roll. That team has serious systemic problems that needed correcting. This basketball team has none of those things. Apples and Oranges.
by billyzane on
Feb 26, 2008 11:23 AM CST
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Good Point
But I would never suggest that a loss is better than a win in ANY circumstance other than Russian Roulette. There's never anything refreshing about losing.
You're definitely spot-on about the team being on a roll. Momentum is essential. I have a feeling that SuperCharger may be suggesting that we're on a roll that must end. Better that the roll end in the Big12 post-season than in the NCAA tourney?
by Bombilla on
Feb 26, 2008 12:08 PM CST
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no, exact opposite in fact
I think we can take this the distance. 12 more. I think taking our foot off the gas right now, fatigue be damned in Kansas City, would be a terrible mistake. Our next three are winnable, two of our first three in KC should be wins, and then theoretically, our first two games in the tourney should be wins. Regardless of what happens against Kansas (most likely) in the big 12 tourney final, I think we need to try to continue blowing out teams we should. And frankly, all three of our final regular season opponents should be blown out (by at least 10 points that is).
Momentum and self-doubt are strange. They can come and go in a heartbeat. We're still very, VERY young so it'st just not clear due to lack of history that we'd be able to get back to this level instantly if we were to stumble to the finish line..i.e. one more regular season loss and a loss in the conference tournament.
Unlike year's past, an appearance in the Big 12 tourney final won't satisfy me. We need to win. We should win it.
by Blitzburgh on
Feb 26, 2008 1:23 PM CST
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Easy to say now
that A&M was a changing point, but that could just have easily put us into a skid that results in a horrible loss to Az St and bad set up for next year.
That is why I think it is not possible to say with foresight that a team needs to lose.
by Wells on
Feb 26, 2008 6:27 PM CST
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What? No...
No, no no... That's not what I was implying at all. I guess all I'm trying to say is that even in a loss there can be a silver-lining, and that is taking the loss to heart. Analyze the mistakes and consider the consequences. Don't just pay lip service to the media that want to give you an A for effort.
The A&M loss was a kick in the ass for Mack. Mack kicked the asses of his staff and the players. If we had WON that game by a field goal in the last seconds then we probably would've been owned by ASU - and THAT, in my opinion, would've been a bigger loss than the A&M game.
by Bombilla on
Feb 26, 2008 9:29 PM CST
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Let me pile on
Agree that it is speculation if losing or winning out makes you better prepared.
I don't think anyone can understand what is going on in the players heads well enough to say if losing one more will help or hurt us.
The only thing one can say is losing will hurt our chances chances of getting the best seeding possible.
by Wells on
Feb 26, 2008 6:52 AM CST
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% Comparison
FG Made-Attempted 27-57 (.474)
3P Made-Attempted 10-22 (.455)
FT Made-Attempted 10-22 (.455)
Hmm.. I had to make sure that it wasn't a typo.
45.5% for both 3pt and ft... We played great tonight, but man, those late missed free throws are going to kill us when the tourney comes.
DJ missing two front end 1n1's was a surprise, and AJ missing three in a row was a shocker.
Still, we came out on top! I guess defense and guard play do win championships. Hook'em.
by horns430 on Feb 26, 2008 1:47 AM CST 0 recs
Free throws
I keep hearing this mantra every game, missed free throws are going to hurt us in the Tourny. I want to know why it isn't hurting us now? Its not like we are out there playing nobodies. We are playing Tournament bound teams and beating them despite our poor free throw shooting. I think that bodes well for us. I do think Barnes needs to get them some FT shooting practice because we are missing out on a lot of easy points, but I just don't follow the logic that missing FTs are going to hurt us in the Tournament if we can beat Tournament bound teams now with poor FT shooting.
by afaeguy on
Feb 26, 2008 8:52 AM CST
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Fair point, but...
the idea is that there are only so many times that you can give away that many points to a tournament-caliber team and get away with it. Eventually, it's going to bite you. You're right that there's nothing special about the tournament that makes free throws more valuable, but you have to think that at some point, it's going to catch up to us, and I'd sure hate for that point to be in the tournament.
by billyzane on
Feb 26, 2008 9:41 AM CST
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free throws
I think free throws are more valuable in the tournament, scoring is lower and therefore each point is more valuable.
by billb on
Feb 26, 2008 12:06 PM CST
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not always
First of all, I have never heard that scoring in the NCAA tournament is lower than in the regular season. It's probably lower than in the non-conference schedule, but so is conference scoring. My guess is that for most teams, their conference scoring is about the same as their tournament scoring, but if you have some stats, I'm willing to change my mind.
But even if you're right and scoring is lower, that doesn't necessarily make free throws that much more important. It depends on WHY scoring is lower. If scoring is lower because teams take it slow and try to control tempo (as I assume you're saying), then that lessens the number of possessions in a game, which means that, assuming fouls are called the same as in the regular season, there will be fewer foul shots taken, so their value is decreased by the same amount that the score is decreased.
If you're saying that scores are lower in the tournament because you're playing teams with good defenses, that's all well and good, but I repeat again that this is not in any way different than when you're playing tournament-quality teams in the regular season.
by billyzane on
Feb 26, 2008 1:35 PM CST
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With out any proof
I would speculate scoring would be lower because you play better teams in the tournament.
by Wells on
Feb 26, 2008 6:48 PM CST
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right, but...
my point was that that's the same as when you're playing tournament-quality teams in the regular season. free throws are just as valuable in those regular seasons games as they are in the tournament. and afaeguy's point was that we're beating tournament quality-teams without making our free throws.
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A Couple Quick Thoughts
-James took his shot at Beasley a little too personally. Lead to forced shots early and he was frustrated he wasn't putting on a show. He tried a little too hard to impress last night.
-Oh my...Walker is a straight up THUG. 1 pt. on 0-14 shooting - the Horns were in his head and he couldn't stop throwing elbows.
-My favorite play of the game was Mason's stuff of Walker on the double team in 2nd half. The Glue left his man when Walker got the ball in the low post with his back to the basket and didn't know Mason was there waiting.
-Great minutes from Wingman last night. He looked sure of himself on O for the second straight game.
-Not a huge play but I loved that Chapman challenged Beasley on a dunk in the 1st half that Beasley missed. Could have easily been uncontested but the freshman showed some sack.
-Amatuer hour in the stands last night. Someone has mentioned it before but even if the Drum isn't the most raucus building around at least the fans don't embarass themselves by Booing the entire game for no reason.
-K State coach with a sweet unibrow and the worst fitting suit in all of coaching. I really wanted to like him - great intensity and all his yelling seemed directed at his wn players and not the refs. But letting your players take runs at guys in an attempt to foul in the final minute is classless.
This team can beat anyone right now. Hook em!
by Horndogger on Feb 26, 2008 6:50 AM CST 0 recs
Good game, Horns
Meant to get over here last night, but liquid consumption prevented it. Y'all are really good this year.
by TB on Feb 26, 2008 7:45 AM CST 0 recs
Great quote from Beasley...
"They've been playing better than any team in the country," Kansas State freshman Michael Beasley said. "They're a good team. They defend. They've got a whole army."
It is nice to see that our supplemental players can come off the bench and make an intimidating impression.
by 512 on Feb 26, 2008 8:19 AM CST 0 recs
Great time to be a fan
We currently are on the front page of both the men's bb and college football sections of espn, both articles about the respective improvements of our teams. Live it.
by ryanlionrah on Feb 26, 2008 8:26 AM CST 0 recs
Little Bitches
Okay...was it just me or were the fans in the arena booing supposedly bad-calls all through the 1st half, or were they booing stupid fouls? I mean, it was a slow first-half because of all the fouls, but it almost seemed like it was a plan on the Cats side to play hack-a-Shaq on the entire Longhorns squad.
Either way, this Horns team is really, really fun to watch and - dare I say, more fun to watch than last year with Durant?
by Bombilla on Feb 26, 2008 9:17 AM CST 0 recs
Agree with both
They boo'd (is it boo'd or booed?) everything. Sometimes they boo'd when KSU got the call because they assumed it was going against them.
Good teams are more fun to watch than good players. It is far more interesting to see the chemistry and execution of five guys woring in unison than it is to just watch one guy be dominant (still fun, just less so). That's what makes team sports so great.
by Meekrob on
Feb 26, 2008 9:37 AM CST
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Look in the mirror
This is exactly how the Texas crowd behaves
by Caradoc on
Feb 26, 2008 10:22 AM CST
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Nah...
by Bombilla on
Feb 26, 2008 10:45 AM CST
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niiiiiiiiice
and spilling prune juice everywhere!
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