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What kind of fan are you?

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Why do you bleed orange? Are you a student, a graduate, or the much-maligned "T-shirt fan"?

Since BON is a pretty learned sports community, I'm wondering about the population. Let us all know ... what are you?

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A few days ago, Peter asked how many lawyers and law students were on the site. This started me thinking about a friend of mine who's a Baylor fan.

He claims that most Horns followers he knows are simply "T-shirt" fans. This guy spends a lot of time on a Baylor message board, where most members are grads and students. He likes to contrast that with Horns boards, but bases his comparison on supposition alone.

I'm curious, what are you?

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Describe yourself, people!
  • Current UT student
  • UT grad
  • Attended UT, didn't graduate
  • Didn't go there, but orange blood runs in the family
  • Just like the Horns - because who doesn't love a winner

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I don't get the "T-Shirt fans" thing as an insult

Let's say I'm a diehard, but my team happens to have tons and tons of casual fans.  How does that make me any less of a fan?  It makes no sense.  If a team happens to have a lot of casual fans, who cares?  In UT's case, it's a combination of size, location, and having one of the most badass logos in all of sports.

I hate bandwagon fans as much as the next guy, but does it really devalue my own fandom?

by Meekrob on Mar 13, 2008 11:00 AM CDT   0 recs

Not only does it not devalue your fandom

but the revenue from the apparel sales to all of these "T-shirt" fans allows UT to have the finest facilities in the country, so while the bandwagon fan can be annoying, just think if him as a revenue source.

by Wells on Mar 13, 2008 11:20 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Consider the source

In my case, I hear the T-shirt fan whining from a Baylor grad. Needless to say, not a lot of revenue coming in from the T-shirt crowd for ol' BU. Since they don't enjoy the benefits, I guess they like to insult the folks who do.

I refused to name my children Vince, Kevin or Major ... despite my secret desire to do so.

by EddieTheAlbinoSquirrel on Mar 13, 2008 11:39 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Here, here.

The Baylor fans are a pretty desperate lot. I was only a radio show for three years with two of one, one a QB that had gone to the pros. Always trying to pump it the green and gold. Made me feel almost bad to be stating the start truth of the matter. (You're play USC there; ah, think earthquake!)

I went to school starting in '65. My oldest daughter graduated last May and the other is a junior at UT.

Of course, when they were young and wouldn't get up after umpteen calls, I'd turn full blast the scratchy LP of the Fighting Texas A&M Band playing the the War Hymn, which I had bought just for that purpose, and wouldn't turn it off until they were up and dressed. I know, I'm a devious asshole. But I didn't want any good associations with aggies. And then a fortuitous thing happened one day in downtown Austin when the youngest went, "What in the heck is that?" And she was pointing to one of the two or three ugliest aggie corpsman I've ever seen. It was such a pleasure to tell her the truth: that, my dear, is an Aggie. They still cringe at the first bars of the war hymn. They'll probably play it at my funeral just to see if I'll get up.

by whills on Mar 13, 2008 8:53 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Thanks for the GREAT advice.

Since, I live in Oklahoma right now and I have the same problem waking up my oldest (8 y.o.), a mixture of the ou crap and agro war hymn might work wonders.  I might puke a few times, but it might get the right psychological mind set with a bad association.  I can use plenty of photos and You Tube videos (had a good corp one earlier in the week) for later indoctrination.

by Bevoboy94 on Mar 13, 2008 10:16 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Well, good luck.
This did work for me but your results may differ. Listening to the OU stuff may cause adverse affects. LOL The first time I went to the OU game, I wound up with Boomer Sooner careening around my head for three days. It's catchy - and I had destroyed previous brain cells by drinking a fifth of Jack Black on Friday night. The aggie war hymn is definitely not in the same zone.

by whills on Mar 13, 2008 10:48 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I don't have kids

so I worked on my aggie neighbors' tot instead.

smart kid!

Longhorns don't litter

by horndude on Mar 13, 2008 10:59 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I can't take credit for these masterworks

but IMO they are far too VALUABLE to keep under wraps.

Plenty of indoctrination material there.

My apologies to the owner, whoever you are. It may be a BONer?

Longhorns don't litter

by horndude on Mar 13, 2008 11:09 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Far too valuable.
Never too early to spot the whiners.

by whills on Mar 14, 2008 1:04 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Don't know these guys

But from the site Horndude found....

Best photo-opp ever.

Disclaimer: I may be wrong.

by Shake on Mar 14, 2008 8:26 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

RE: Owner

If its who I think it is, yes, the owner was at one point a BONer. He and I and few other people in the dorms started a CS clan in spring 2004 and he created the website. In fact, he was the one who introduced me to this awesome website a  few years ago.

by afaeguy on Mar 14, 2008 7:09 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

thinking about this very thing

Funny, but I was actually thinking about this very topic the other day, though more in relation to professional sports teams and how people decide "their" team.  While none but a very few on this site actually played for our beloved Horns, I'm guessing most have some sort of tie to the school (as early voting indicates)

by the usual suspects on Mar 13, 2008 11:10 AM CDT   0 recs

Darn!

Wish I had included "former or current UT athlete" on the poll! I'm curious if there are some of those folks around these parts ...

I refused to name my children Vince, Kevin or Major ... despite my secret desire to do so.

by EddieTheAlbinoSquirrel on Mar 13, 2008 11:16 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

We know there is at least one

and a mother of the best softball pitcher in the world likes to post from time to time as well.

by Wells on Mar 13, 2008 11:21 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm sorry, but "T-shirt fan" should be a positive

Isn't that the point of major college sports?  To drive revenue?  Otherwise, not many schools would sell out their stadiums.  

And, to follow up on the usual suspects point: How would any professional team have any fans.  I know I didn't play professional sports.  Does that mean I can't root for any?

T-shirt fan = stupidest insult ever.

by GoHorns on Mar 13, 2008 12:00 PM CDT   0 recs

I certainly don't disagree with you!

I hope my original post didn't make it seem like I was insulting the T-shirt crowd myself ... in my view, the more Horns fans, the merrier!

I refused to name my children Vince, Kevin or Major ... despite my secret desire to do so.

by EddieTheAlbinoSquirrel on Mar 13, 2008 12:20 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

No, no. Absolutely not.

Your intention was received correctly.  You're arguement was well said.  I just think people that do think the "T-shirt Fan" is inferior are quite retarded.

by GoHorns on Mar 13, 2008 2:19 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

False

tu = stupidest insult ever

I've been fueling my dreams eating greens and beans.

by 16thLonghorn on Mar 13, 2008 3:02 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

What about tsip?

I don't even get how that's supposed to be insulting.

by Meekrob on Mar 13, 2008 4:30 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I know...

...Tea is great!

I've been fueling my dreams eating greens and beans.

by 16thLonghorn on Mar 13, 2008 4:37 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Well, you are right.

But there are so many stupid insults to choose from.  

How to be an aggie: Say something stupid and all your retarded friends will think it's genious.

by GoHorns on Mar 14, 2008 7:46 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I lived in Austin for the first 8 years..

of my life, parents followed them and it carried onto me when i found an interest in college football at the age of 15 or so.

I am not attending the University, but have dreams of attending Pharmacy School there after my degree.

I wonder what kind of fan i am?

My adopted son Sergio Kindle does not sleep; he waits.

by mvplonghorns on Mar 13, 2008 12:07 PM CDT   0 recs

From my experience

"T-Shirt Fan" is an aggy term, used hourly on texags.com. It fits in nicely (in their minds, anyway) with the other oddities displayed by their perpetual inferiority complex. They had to create an excuse for why there is more burnt orange longhorn paraphernalia (even in East Texas hick-towns) than maroon Ol' Sarge crap. Their only response to why tu is more popular is "but those sips didn't actually graduate from tu, they just bought a t-shirt at Wal-Mart!"

Insecurity runs rampant in Collie Station. Where else would you find blog threads with photos of their framed degrees and college rings, you know, to prove they are real aggies.

The truth is, few that weren't brain-washed by attending aTm, or by a family member who did, have any desire to root for gomer. Why be a dork unless you are forced into it?

As a multi-generation longhorn alum, I respect and welcome any and all "t-shirt sips".

Hook 'em!

Longhorns don't litter

by horndude on Mar 13, 2008 12:23 PM CDT   0 recs

I'm an oddball (this is one of the reasons)

I'm a t-shirt fan.

I grew up 60 miles south of Tuscaloosa during the height of Bear Bryant's success at 'Bama - but I've been a Texas fan since 1969, the year I began watching football as a small boy. That year, the 'Horns were on TV a lot due to their success, and the wishbone was brand new and exciting to watch. Those factors - and the uniforms - won me over as a small boy.

I attended college in the state of Texas, but at Rice University, not UT. I got a lucky break on a scholarship to Rice, and who could turn that down? But all the while, I've been a Longhorn fan. In all honesty I pull for Rice in baseball when they play UT, but in football (and all other sports in which Rice simply isn't competitive on UT's level)I just sit there and take it.

by beast in bama on Mar 13, 2008 12:43 PM CDT   0 recs

This is odd

but I started out a Rice fan, too. But around 1960 or so I went to a Longhorns game cause I lived next to a HS football coach and he'd take everyone down to the knot hole section on the North end. Back then it was just a buck. After that, I was always Longhorn fan, long before I enrolled. But I still have affection for the Owls; they're a scrappy bunch. And I love the MOB.

I still think the 63 national championship was the most dramatic, maybe because it was the first. However, I didn't feel like we had conquered the world like I did when VY strode into the EZ over SC.

One of my most cherished pieces of memorabilia came after I left school when I took my little brother to see a Longhorn doubleheader at the old Disch-Faulk Field. Back then they would give you a full scorecard (heavy stock) to score the game; this was printed on both sides, so it would cover a doubleheader. So, I recorded every play and most all the pitches.

That turned out to be the day David Chalk hit four "consecutive" homers. There's a reason for the quotation marks. He actually homered in his last at bat in the first game and then the first three at bats in the second. All to within 10 feet of the very same place in left field near the line. The crowd went absolutely nuts on the fourth homer. I saw a lot of games at that grand old field, I loved Billy Goat Hill and deeply regret to this day that it is gone.

by whills on Mar 13, 2008 9:21 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Student/non-student
I am a die hard longhorns fan, but I never went to UT. I hate it when people act suprised when they find out how much of a UT fan I am, even though I never went there. The only difference between me and a Texas alum., or current UT student is..They pay/paid A LOT of money to be a UT fan. Thats it! I watch every game I can, follow recruiting, hate OU & A&M, and love the tradition and the city.. I bleed burnt orange!

by Longhorns84 on Mar 13, 2008 12:50 PM CDT   0 recs

I never forget

the fact that the Permanent University Fund paid 96% of the cost of my education. My bill for tuition, shuttle, fees and athletic tickets my freshman fall semester was a whopping $172. The great State of Texas and all those t-shirt fans provided me with an excellent education for "amost free". For that I am grateful.

Longhorns don't litter

by horndude on Mar 13, 2008 12:59 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

My late mother was quite the record

keeper. She determined that the total cost of my freshman year (1976), including tuition, fees, room, board, books, gas back and forth to Houston, and the cash stipends she periodically sent, was less than $2,500.

I'll never forget ol' what's-his-name.

by Horntod on Mar 13, 2008 4:51 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Well..

I suppose I am a T-shirt fan.  I live in Oklahoma, hate the sooners, hate a&m, live for Longhorn Football and Basketball.  Not just because we are winners, the University of Texas has class, and the fanbase is awesome(especially you guys here on BON).  Hook 'Em!!

OU SUCKS!

by LadyLonghorninOK on Mar 13, 2008 3:27 PM CDT   0 recs

I love you!

Welcome to the family, T-shirt fan. ;)

I refused to name my children Vince, Kevin or Major ... despite my secret desire to do so.

by EddieTheAlbinoSquirrel on Mar 13, 2008 4:37 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Well

thank you kind sir... It's kinda hard living burnt orange in a crimson and creamed world up here in the hell state of oklahoma... I need all the support I can get.. Can't even park the Expedition without the Horns sticker getting molested.. damn sooners.. I love it here at BON!  

OU SUCKS!

by LadyLonghorninOK on Mar 13, 2008 7:51 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Oh, and another thing ...

... make that a ma'am instead of sir. Yes, I know my user name is misleading ... it's an old on-campus joke from my time at UT.

I'm also glad to see another lady around these parts!

I refused to name my children Vince, Kevin or Major ... despite my secret desire to do so.

by EddieTheAlbinoSquirrel on Mar 13, 2008 7:54 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

LOL

From that name I never would have gathered... sorry.. :) It's nice to know that I am not the only crazy female Longhorn fan...My hubby says I'm obsessed.. He's jealous I spend so much time keeping up with my Texas sports.. I was in the grocery store the other day and my four year old daughter started acting like she was going to throw up... I asked her what was wrong... She pointed to some ou koozies and said...That mommy!!  BOO ou sucks!!  Gotta be doing something right.. :)

OU SUCKS!

by LadyLonghorninOK on Mar 14, 2008 5:00 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

What's funny about "T-shirt" fans

As a student at UT, I can tell you there are a bunch of students who either don't care about UT athletics, or are the posers that act like they know what they're talking about but don't (ex: the ones that are like Colt McCoy throws like a girl!).

I know plenty of "T-shirt" fans that know more about UT sports than the UT students.

Houston Rockets winning streak currently at: 20 games

by goingforthecorner on Mar 13, 2008 3:35 PM CDT   0 recs

Do you mean knowledgeable

students like these?

Real Men of Genius - texags version

aTm might want to recruit some t-shirt fans to explain this stuff to the real aggies.

Longhorns don't litter

by horndude on Mar 13, 2008 3:48 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

This provided a nice friday morning laugh!

Thanks! After reading that post, I feel like aggie should change it's name to texas a&c -- abott and costello

by ArcticLonghorn on Mar 14, 2008 10:10 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Kick A** screenname

dig the EddieTheAlbinoSquirrel screen name.  I had forgotten about that strip. Of course, alot of tequila was consumed during the years I read it. Good times.

by 98horn on Mar 13, 2008 6:25 PM CDT   0 recs

Thanks!

I worked at the Texan, and it was my favorite strip. The cartoonist was a helluva guy, too.

And like any good UTer, I enjoyed feeding the albino squirrels on campus, whenever I could find one.

I refused to name my children Vince, Kevin or Major ... despite my secret desire to do so.

by EddieTheAlbinoSquirrel on Mar 13, 2008 7:55 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I still pray for the day

when I will log on to BON and find a new user with the screen name "Nutty, The Kitten With Testicles for Legs". That will be the day when I am totally fulfilled.

So take that.

by Kahuna on Mar 13, 2008 11:05 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Nice

Forgotten about that one too. We Gen X-ers were so edgy.

by 98horn on Mar 14, 2008 12:04 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Int'l Student

International student - Freshman. Never heard about UT or any NCAA team before coming to the US in August 2007. I went to all home football and basketball games and proud to be the part of Longhorns fans community.

by justfr1day on Mar 13, 2008 11:12 PM CDT   0 recs

my take on the "t-shirt fan" comment

Calling someone a 't-shirt fan' is just another way of calling someone a bandwagon fan.
In a way, to be a school that has 't-shirt fans' is a compliment, b/c it means you have a successful program.
Typical 't-shirt fans' jump on the bandwagon of a winning program, even though they have no tie to the school or program (didn't go to school there, don't have a close family member who goes there or plays for one of the school's athletic teams). If the program has a few rough seasons or starts losing consistently, the t-shirt goes into a drawer or is hidden away.
After texas beat USC in '06, the large crowds of texas 'fans' who waited for stores to open to by texas memorabilia were perfect examples of "t-shirt fans". If you were a true texas fan, you would have already had a texas shirt to wear BEFORE the game.

The reason "t-shirt fan" is an insult is b/c it is a simple way to belittle someone. You didn't go to the school, you didn't play for them, you don't have a tie to them, you're just someone who bought a t-shirt and think that makes you a fan.

I think there are some schools where you will rarely, if ever, see the 't-shirt fan' declaration used. Vanderbilt, Baylor, Northwestern, programs which are traditional losers won't have any t-shirt fans. If you're a fan of the Baylor football program, you must really be a fan, b/c they're terrible right now. There isn't a bandwagon for you to jump on there.

I think for people who didn't attend texas or have any ties to the school or program, but just decide that they're fans, if they talk shit to Aggies who are former students, you kind of ask for the 't-shirt fan' designation. To me, if you attended the university that you cheer for, you're okay. I don't think I've ever insulted the fandom of an opposing fan if they were a student or alumnus of that school (I might have insulted them as a person if they were an asshole, but that is a different matter). However, I have ripped a few "t-shirt fans" who were dumb enough to argue with me, when I found out that knew a lot less about texas' football team than I did, and they had no ties to texas.
To me, they're just bandwagon fans who jumped on the winner.

I think if you truly want to attend texas, you can be admitted into the school. If you don't have the grades coming out of high school, you can attend a community college and transfer in. If you want it bad enough, you'll get in.
I get tired of hearing from people who claim they're texas fans, but they go to Southwest Texas in San Marcos. It's kind of like Corby on The Ticket in Dallas claiming to be an OU fan, when he graduated from UNT. It isn't legitimate.

JMHO.
 

by Beergut on Mar 14, 2008 2:57 AM CDT   0 recs

re: the old SWT, now TSU

And that is completely differrent than all the not-even-close-to-being-accepted-to-A&M kids who go to Blinn, right?

Otherwise I pretty much agree with the rest of your post.  Although, someone should point out that while Texas currently has it's share of bandwagon fans due to the last 8-10 years, quite the opposite was true back in the 80's.  If you were wearing Burnt Orange east of Houston back then, you could bet on being alone in a sea of maroon.

Disclaimer: I may be wrong.

by Shake on Mar 14, 2008 8:04 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Agreed on the '80s

It was the same in Dallas in some areas.

One of my best friends is a die-hard texas fan, and he talks about when he was in elementary school, and the only kid wearing texas gear, b/c the Aggies were so dominant in football at that time.

As for Blinn, some of those kids are actually on the TEAM BLINN program, but they actually met all requirements to be accepted, they just didn't have any room left in admissions. I think this was a response to former students who were unhappy when their kids weren't admitted b/c of the top 10 percent rule.

I get your meaning, I just don't think A&M has that many bandwagon fans, unless you want to classify the football fans who decided they liked basketball during the BCG era.

by Beergut on Mar 14, 2008 5:24 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Going to a school doesn't make you a fan.

Not going to a school doesn't mean you can't be a fan.  Being a collegiate fan has absolutely nothing to do with having hard ties to that school.  Like with any other team, being a fan simply means you follow that team and care about how they perform year in and year out, irregardless of prior success.  Anyone can be a fan, and actually going to a school doesn't make you any better than someone who didn't.  At least that's how things work in the world outside Aggie-land.

by Meekrob on Mar 14, 2008 8:25 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

In defense of Beergut

Wait, did I really just type that subject line?

Anyway, I believe what he is trying to say is that it's OK to be (or have) "bandwagon" fans.  It only seems to cross the line when the uneducated ones start talking shit.  Of course, A&M doesn't have a single one of those anywhere in the ranks of student, alumni, or bandwagon fans.

Of course, then he goes off about how anyone could attend if they really wanted to get into Texas.  But that is not true.  When I was there, they actually put a stop to accepting transfer u-grad students for a year or 2.  And many kids/families  cannot afford the cost of going away to school without some financial assistance. (And please, no one bust out the "take out a loan" defense.)

Disclaimer: I may be wrong.

by Shake on Mar 14, 2008 8:34 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm not saying it doesn't mean you can't be a fan

But if you have no ties to a school whatsoever, but claim diehard status, you are leaving yourself open.

I think the "t-shirt fan" thing really started with Miami in '80s, and move on to Florida State and Nebraska in the '90s. You had kids with no ties to either school wearing their gear and claiming to be fans just b/c those programs were winning. Now that kid who would wear Miami or Nebraska gear is wearing texas gear. He isn't a fan, just a bandwagon jumper who likes to be associated with a winner.

Now, as a football program, you want these types of 't-shirt fans', b/c that kid might grow up to be a potential player for you, and you want him to remember that he has always loved your team.

I'm not saying you can't be a fan, but I am saying that if you actually have a tie to that school, I think that is more legitimate than, "I just decided I like them b/c I like their colors."

by Beergut on Mar 14, 2008 5:31 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

the above was in reply to Meekrob

In response to Shake:

Anyway, I believe what he is trying to say is that it's OK to be (or have) "bandwagon" fans.  It only seems to cross the line when the uneducated ones start talking shit.  Of course, A&M doesn't have a single one of those anywhere in the ranks of student, alumni, or bandwagon fans.

Even I won't claim we don't have our share of idiots among our fanbase, although I think we don't have as many as some schools. I think the bigger the school/more successful the program, the more susceptible you are to bandwagon status, so the more likely the "barely graduated from HS, only exposure to sports now is through the beer fog at the bar" crowd will associate themselves with you.
I think the Alabamas, Penn States, Michigans, and Nebraskas of the world all have more bandwagon fans than anoyne else, just b/c of their size and the success of their football programs.

Of course, then he goes off about how anyone could attend if they really wanted to get into Texas.  But that is not true.  When I was there, they actually put a stop to accepting transfer u-grad students for a year or 2.  And many kids/families  cannot afford the cost of going away to school without some financial assistance. (And please, no one bust out the "take out a loan" defense.)

Interesting. I didn't know about that. I still think if you want to go there bad enough, you can get in, but maybe now you need to look into grad school options :)

by Beergut on Mar 14, 2008 5:37 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

And I'm saying that...

...whether you went to the school or not is completely irrelevant as to how good a fan you are.  I don't even understand what you mean when you say it makes you more legitimate.  Legitimately what?  A fan?  So if you didn't go to the school it makes you an illegitimate fan?  And somehow that's inferior?

This is all ridiculous.  It's just another way for people to elevate themselves.  "Oh, you may be a fan, but I'm a better fan because I went to the school."  Who the hell really cares?

by Meekrob on Mar 14, 2008 10:50 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Beergut

Are you saying that to be a true college football fan you have to attend college?  What about the college football fans that did not go to college?  Are they all illegitimate?

by Wells on Mar 14, 2008 9:12 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

not that you have to attend college

but I do think it makes you more legitimate.

The Auburn fan who attended Auburn University and graduated is more of a legitimate fan than Joe Bob Fan who claims the Crimson Tide but barely made it out of HS, imo.
It doesn't mean Joe Bob can't cheer for 'Bama or that he doesn't get upset when they lose, but the Auburn grad is committed. It isn't like he can go back and change where he went to school and received his education.
However, Joe Bob can decide he's pissed off after a loss, and change shirts and claim he's an Auburn fan tomorrow. That's what I mean about the difference between "t-shirt fans" and 'real' fans.

If you went to texas' Tyler branch or the Dallas branch, and tell me you're a longhorn fan, okay. Maybe you wanted to stay close to home, maybe it was cheaper for you, but you went to a system school, you have a tie to the school.
However, if you went to Trinity Valley and claim you're a diehard longhorn fan, I'm going to be skeptical.

by Beergut on Mar 14, 2008 5:42 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Leave Trinity Valley out of it

It's not their fault they pump out wicked smaht kids

by Horndogger on Mar 14, 2008 6:52 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

My guess is 75 - 80% of the ...

ou and OSU fans here in Oklahoma never went to either school.  Most went elsewhere.  I think half of the ou student body are traitors from the great state of Texas. In fact I've heard they recruit students out of Texas who don't make the 10%

They think that since I've been in the state for 8 years now, I should have gone over to the evil empire.  Even during the dreaded 5 year slump I was still bleeding Burnt Orange. You don't go to a school for 7 out of 10 years and go to war(Iraq the first time around)to get your degree just to jump off of the bandwagon when the times are tough.  

"t-shirt" fans are real easy to pick out in a bar.  They will claim to be a FSU fan through and through and then in the next sentence say they like UM and UF too.  That would be like any of us saying we bleed 100% Burnt Orange but root for atm because they are part of the great state of Texas.  While we may pull for them in private for them to win to either help us (i.e. beat ou) or for Big XII reasons.  You never say you root for atm no matter what.

Most aggies I know would say the same.

by Bevoboy94 on Mar 14, 2008 11:39 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I am from southwestern OHIO

and I describe myself as a die-hard Longhorn. My
love for UT started when I first fell in love with
the state of Texas. I am fasicanted by the states
and I love it very much so. I know and follow UT just as much as the next guy and I really love fu*cking with tOSU (or as we Buckeye haters here in Ohio like to call them, LUCKEYES)fans who claim they know so much about thier team. I will say "Name 65 scholarship players names, numbers, poistions, year, and sometimes h-w". Then they will name like 5 offensive players and the token good linebacker and I will this for UT, and they always say "Get a life".

All my friends and people I know think I am weird or "bandwagon" for liking UT but I tell them that I love the State as much if not more than the university. Y'all are truly blessed to be living in such a state as Texas. It is beautiful and I would give an arm and a leg to live there now.

by TEXASFIGHT on Mar 14, 2008 8:31 AM CDT   0 recs

No arm & leg required

Just a mortgage & U-haul rental...

Disclaimer: I may be wrong.

by Shake on Mar 14, 2008 9:44 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

swOhio

tOSU probably has, proportionally, more t-shirt fans the we do, so they have very little room to talk. With no other major university in the state they almost have a monopoly on the fan base.
I also live in SW Ohio and had to endure, similar to you I imagine, the season where they got their revenge on us. But the year before was oh so sweet, as they put so much stock in playing in the shoe "at night". I don't know how many times I heard "Nobody beats us in that environment."
Anyway, I and my wife are both three-time grads from UT, with my parents, and a grandparent who graduated there. Two of my sons were born in Austin and one in San Antonio. We have some burnt orange in our wardrobe and a lot in out bloodstreams.

Hook'em!

Ps. Thanks for letting me get the tOSU rant out of my system; I didn't realize how much it had built up!

by wxdog on Mar 15, 2008 12:22 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

nice post wxdog

btw where do you live in SWOHIO. I live in Colerain Township (northwest of Cincinnati). I am glad to see that I am not the only true UT fan here. I like the monoply analogy, although it's not quite all true. I attend Miami, and there are a ton of UK fans from Cincinnati, along with UC, MU, UM, ND fans as well. But yea, tOSU is defenitely the biggest and I have always wondered if UT had casual fans that know the starting qb like as many as they do?

by TEXASFIGHT on Mar 15, 2008 12:21 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

swOhio

I live near Dayton, where the only other real college with a football team is the University of Dayton. Many of the UD fans consider themselves Buckeyes because the two teams are not likely to meet. You're right though, the few University of Cincinnati fans I know are only lukewarm to the buckeyes, but the schools in the area w/o a football program consider themselves adopted buckeyes.
The big difference in Texas is that there was once a major conference with most of its member in the state. There are plenty of major, if not large, schools in TX that have a built in fan base that competes with UT and a&m. I am glad to hear that not everyone in our area has sipped the red and silver koolaid.

by wxdog on Mar 15, 2008 5:25 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

T-shirt fans

I grew up in Washington State, graduated from UT in '94, then earned more degrees in Chicago and New Mexico. I now work at the University of Maine. My point is I've seen a lot of T-shirt fans across the country, but I've come to realize that UT gear doesn't necessarily even indicate fanhood. I have flashed my horns to folks around the country, some will flash back, but most respond with either a polite smile, or a look of insult, clearly having no clue what I am doing. Bottom line: it's tough to decipher fanhood from fashion in the provinces.

by ArcticLonghorn on Mar 14, 2008 9:07 AM CDT   0 recs

Orono?

Man you are up there.

by Wells on Mar 14, 2008 9:16 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

indeed
I'm in my second year and it still feels frigid. Haven't picked up hockey yet, but there are some hockey freaks up here. I've been told the closest experience I will get to attending a Horn's football game is to attend a UMaine hockey game.

by ArcticLonghorn on Mar 14, 2008 9:22 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

My wife's family is from Maine

but closer to the New Hampshire Border in the lakes region.

I love visiting there but could never last a winter there.

by Wells on Mar 14, 2008 9:45 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

if you can get into hockey your life will improve

vastly.  It might be difficult at first, but go to as many games as you can until it sticks.

by DogTown on Mar 14, 2008 2:32 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I've got him beat.

<----Anchorage</p>

by anonyMoose on Mar 15, 2008 11:26 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

you certainly do

I may be the lone horns rep in Maine and would settle for even fellow BigXII fans here. I did see an aggie flag of all things flying outside someone's front door last year, but I don't know that I am ready to reach that low yet for BigXII companionship.

anonyMoose--have you found a Texas following in Anchorage?

by ArcticLonghorn on Mar 15, 2008 12:30 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

longhorn fan since 13 yrs old

was introduced to the lonestar showdown by my aggie loving girlfriend and her family who's grandpa played baseball for the aggies and soon realized that they were all fucking crazy retarted. i never attented the university, had football dreams of wearing the burnt orange and all the camps and summer workouts only got me a closet full of cool camp shirts and no scholarship. the smaller schools started calling me up to play ball and i sadly chose to play baseball elsewhere, in the lonely fields of abilene christian university and got a year of free college education. but other than the 1 year of the purple, i still bleed burnt orange and for anyone who ever questions my loyalty to UT can kiss my mexican ass. i love everything about The University of Texas, the tradition, the history, the way the stadium smells, the way the band plays the eyes of texas. and thats why my  new dream is for my kids to attend the school since i wasnt able to go.  

texas grown and texas raised..

by kcc28 on Mar 15, 2008 12:24 AM CDT