Memphis-Texas Post Game Thoughts
More "Great season, guys" type stuff later, but for now, a review of what happened out there on the court today. My notes are pretty scattered, so I'll stick to bullet points and jump around. We'll start with game-specific stuff before moving on to Big Picture thoughts.
MEMPHIS 85 TEXAS 67
- Rick Barnes has done a phenomenal job with this team this year. And I don't mean that just in the sense of assembling the kind of talent that can lose Kevin Durant and have a better team the following year. He certainly did that, but he also did a lot of great X's and O's coaching this year, getting the better of coach after coach throughout the season.
Not today. To be frank, today's game plan was shocking. And not in a good way. I'll get to the details in the points below, but let's just lead with this: Though I think Memphis whipped Texas pretty good today, I thought Rick Barnes only helped the Tigers. After a season of great coaching, today's showing was a disappointment.
- Why, for instance, did Rick Barnes open in man to man defense? Anybody who's watched the two teams at all this year thought to himself, "Texas certainly can't take this team in straight man defense." But that's what we opened with. Derrick Rose and Chris Douglas-Roberts quickly took advantage of their enormous size advantages, Memphis built a quick lead, and the tone was set for a long afternoon.
- Equally troubling: why, oh why, was Texas sending two guys to the offensive glass? The key to Memphis is making them earn every single point in the half court, but there Texas was, sending Atchley and James to the offensive glass, only to see a superfreak Tiger pull down the board and start a fast break. At that point, it's over. Just score the two points. (As Memphis repeatedly did.)
- Along those same lines, though this game may have been played in Texas' back yard, the game was unquestionably played on Memphis' terms. Instead of slowing the pace, taking our time, and making a deliberate affair of the game, Texas got into an Athlete Contest with Memphis. Did that look to anyone else like a team you want to get into an Athlete Contest with?
- I was shocked at how ill-prepared Augustin, Abrams, and Damion looked in the first half. All three seemed utterly stunned by the team they were up against, shocked at their length, their athleticism, their quickness, and their agressive ball denial on defense. Result? Eight first half turnovers and an insurmountable Memphis lead.
- Add it all up and the one comment that sticks out in all my notes is a simple one, jotted down with about six minutes left in the first half: "Did we scout this team at all?"
- I'm speculating, but my gut feeling is that Rick just got too cute. He's done a fabulous job this year zigging when teams have expected him to zag. More often than not, it's been a wonderful strategic gambit that's helped Texas overcome various deficiencies. Today? I thought he out-thought himself. By the time the first half ended, I'm certain Rick realized his mistake, but it was too late. We wound up playing right into Memphis' hands in the first half, and that was that. Instead of a slower paced, deliberate game that sought to frustrate Memphis' open floor freaks, we played precisely the kind of game they're most comfortable with. And though John Calipari may not have been expecting it... I guarantee you he and his players were thrilled to indulge in it.
- If you're wondering what limitations DJ Augustin might have as a professional, today was your window into the future. With athletes who he couldn't just destroy with quickness, DJ struggled to find a good game rhythm. And without a good rhythm, he made uncharacteristic mistakes. My jaw hit the floor on several first half turnovers - plays you just don't see DJ Augustin make. But we haven't seen DJ Augustin play against a group of athletes like the Tigers.
- Only one player - Justin Mason - came out playing with the kind of athletic purpose you need to attack Memphis. Everyone else looked afraid to make a mistake. (Which inevitably led to mistakes.) On the bright side, I thought everyone improved significantly as the game went on. Once Texas adjusted to Memphis' athleticism, they did reasonably well, and if we played Memphis again tomorrow, I'd favor Memphis by a half dozen points and expect a very competitive game. That's not how it works, of course, and I can guarantee you Rick Barnes isn't very happy with himself for today's game plan. Our kids weren't ready for Memphis, and that's on the coach.
- It's easy to look at Texas' 9-28 shooting day from three point range and conclude that we just had an off day with our stroke, but that would be too charitable. The offensive system as a whole was broken, with most of those three point looks coming in less than ideal situations. I thought John Calipari did a terrific job of preparing his players for what we like to do, and we weren't at all well prepared to take advantage of the way they were playing us. You could see the kids out there trying to run the very sets that Memphis was specifically denying. Our adjustments came far too late.
- Finally, let's just give Memphis some serious credit for their performance today. For starters, John Calipari did an outstanding job preparing this team. Watching Memphis the past two tournaments, there was a sense that Calipari's players wanted too much just to be able to Be Better than their opponents. This year, I saw a team that listened to their coach and everything he taught them about how to play Texas. They executed his game plan well, and their ability more than took care of the rest. I haven't seen a team this loaded with athletic talent since 1991. Scarier still, Derrick Rose and Chris Douglas-Roberts are wonderful basketball players, too. Dynamite.
BIG PICTURE THOUGHTS
- I know it's tempting to wonder whether Texas might have been better served as a #1-seed in a No Memphis Region, but I just can't buy into the logic. First, I believe very much that it was good for Texas to play in Houston. Less travel, a supportive crowd, and comfortable environment are good things for the team. But more importantly, to win a national championship you're going to have to beat at least two truly elite teams. Would I have prefered UCLA's or Kansas' path to the Final Four? In a heartbeat. But in the final analysis, if Texas was to be a national championship team, it was going to have to beat Memphis (or their equivalent, should one exist). Getting them in Houston is, in my estimation, preferable. Bottom line: Memphis took us to task in an environment that was pretty friendly to Texas. We put ourselves in a great position by playing in Houston, but they were better. End of story, and I don't wish we'd been placed elsewhere.
- The big question left for Texas is: what of DJ and DJ? Will either (or both) turn pro? We certainly expect Augustin to enter the draft, but today wasn't his finest hour on a big stage with NBA-caliber athletes. As for Damion, he didn't put on a performance that could have catapulted him up in scouts' minds, either. I'd say both would be wise to test the waters and declare. James should plan on returning unless he's guaranteed a first round selection. As for Augustin... who knows? This wasn't his finest performance of the season, but if he's locked in to the first half of the first round, coming back will be difficult.
- Tyreke Evans is still deciding between Texas and Memphis. Damnit.
- Watch carefully how UCLA plays Memphis next Saturday night. Assuming Ben Howland slows the game into the kind of half court affair that favors his team's strengths, we'll get a good look at what we should have been asking Memphis to do on offense. I know one thing above all else: Rick Barnes' biggest mistake today was letting Memphis get into the flow in transition. We could have lived with hard earned Tiger buckets in half court sets. The easy looks on the run were fatal.
--PB--
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Game Flow
this was definitely one of the main problems today. Texas absolutely could not make the game go at their own pace. Memphis dictated the flow from the opening tip.
I still thought Texas could play at that pace and hang with Memphis, but not when the shots weren't falling. They just started to freak out instead and throw the ball away. Though, of course, the shots not falling had a lot to do with that memphis defense. I don't think AJ's dad had any broomsticks that could jump like Rose and CDR.
Oh, and I'm calling it right now: DJ's coming back next year. His draft stock just plummeted because the NBA is full of guys just as athletic as this Memphis team. And DJ couldn't handle them. I think he dropped out of the lottery today. That, combined with his stated desire to come back and the fact that his family seems to be pretty stable financially, makes me think we've got another year with him. Here's hoping anyway.
by billyzane on Mar 30, 2008 7:37 PM CDT 0 recs
Agree BZ
If we gained anything today, hopefully it was that DJ returns.
And I feel we would benefit from a Memphis Championship, as we did with Syracuse in '03. If we aren't clinching the title, let it be the one that prevented it!
DJ is such a great representative of our alma mater. Another year with his services is immeasurable.
How long till football season?
by horndude on
Mar 30, 2008 8:01 PM CDT
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Exactly
I pointed out the bad gameplan on my blog as well. Of course, it does not get the readership of this one :).
by TheElusiveShadow on Mar 30, 2008 7:55 PM CDT 0 recs
Link?
Thanks for sharing in the conversation. More the merrier.
by PB @ BON on
Mar 30, 2008 8:08 PM CDT
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Here you go
I like writing about Texas sports but I write about just about anything, most of which may bore you.
by TheElusiveShadow on
Mar 31, 2008 5:19 PM CDT
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Practice is not game
While I pretty much agree with the game plan thoughts from PB in regards to Man-Man vs Zone, etc, I disagree on the preparation part for the players.
I thought we got out there and were just in awe and shocke on how "long", quick and strong Memphis was. Watching them from the sidelines or TV does not do justice to who Memphis was. Not that I have college experience, but i liken it to pickup games where you see guys play and think, "I can get around this guy" or "he can't get by me" and then next thing you know his knees are in your face after a backboard slap layup. That is what I think Rose vs DJ was. He should learn from this.
Still this was a team that out perfomred expecations and in my opinion the talent. Memphis has about 4 NBA players and reminds me of the old Kentucky or UNLV teams. Good luck to them and great year Horns. You surpassed expectations.
by TexasWhitey on Mar 30, 2008 8:39 PM CDT 0 recs
After the half
Barnes did make good adjustments, and the box and one really confused Memphis. That was the point that we needed DJ to figure out how to beat these guys and turn it on, but he did not, and that was that.
by Wells on Mar 30, 2008 9:50 PM CDT 0 recs
so now who do we root for?
in this rather boring turnout of a tournament. do we root for memphis after spanking us or do we root for kansas to get the 1st big 12 title in conference history?
ive always been weak again rooting for the team that beat us as a condolence. basketball is all about individual team matchups and we were simply outmatched today I gotta go for kansas for conference bragging rights.
by UTrumbo on Mar 30, 2008 9:57 PM CDT 0 recs
plus we beat them and ucla for that matter
if either win we can say we beat the national champs.
by clra2 on
Mar 30, 2008 10:51 PM CDT
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Depression, I can't help it...
I didn't even want to come on here tonight - it just makes it too real that it is really over.
After the game, I came in from my TV viewing area in the garage and as soon as I ascended the steps to the back door my better half saw my face and she didn't say a word, just hugged me. We watched Gladiator and I drank a bunch of beer. I tried to forget, but I just can't shake that moment of optimism when we raced to within 5 at the opening of the second half.
I was going to go to San Antonio next weekend, even if I had to cash in a lifetime of birthday and Christmas presents. Now, I'm just looking at this gulf of time before football season and wondering what me and my father are going to say in our emails tomorrow morning... "Good game" "At least that got this far" "Great season" "Wait until next year"?
I feel sad and empty. We got creamed and I never even saw a real passion or drive from what is probably the best Longhorn basketball squad ever. And now, that's it...
by BFAUT86 on Mar 30, 2008 10:02 PM CDT 0 recs
i felt the same way...
at halftime. i went into my room, closed my door, and my gf came in only once to see if i hadnt broken anything/wasnt hurting myself. she instantly knew i wanted to be left alone and went back into living room.
by UTrumbo on
Mar 30, 2008 10:10 PM CDT
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Post-Game & Next Season
I caught most of the game on tv and off cbssportline, and your assessment is pretty accurate. I think one thing we're forgetting is how thin we are at point guard...as in all of one. Sure, Mace and Abrams can walk the ball up the court and pass the ball around, but only DJ can routinely pick a team apart and make plays for himself and everyone else. He plays nearly the entire game, every game, and he just gets tired. Over the season, it's shown up particularly on the second game with just a day in between. I'm not sure how much he can practice for a game against a taller and more athletic team like Memphis after beating Stanford with a completely different gameplan. I don't disagree that Barnes had the wrong scheme, by a long way, but I don't think there was much time to prep and practice the team for a new gameplan against a more athletic and taller team without further tiring the team, and DJ in particular. Which is not to excuse the atrocity of a game plan that simply exacerbated Texas deficiencies.
So on to next season...if you think Texas was the smaller, less athletic team...guess what?... that's not changing next season. We lose not much used Mooney and Lewis and gain Brown if he makes the grade in more ways than one and doesn't get himself into further trouble. I expect both DJ's to return, and this team will definitely be better. Matt Hill will be back. Dex and Johnson will have a lot more game. Wangmene will figure out where he needs to be on the court. Has anyone seen Dogus Balbay? I hope he's can spell DJ a lot of minutes and maybe have (2) point guards on the floor for a change up. Texas doesn't have another point guard on the horizon. But that might be enough to win it all next year...a fresh DJ and a more experienced front court. Just for fun, think what it would've been like if Durant, Aldridge, and Gibson were still around with DJ running the point.
by longhorns1 on Mar 31, 2008 12:45 AM CDT 0 recs
Re: DJ against longer/quicker guards..
The very same thing happened last year vs USC. They threw Gabe Pruitt, Nick Young, and Daniel Hackett at Augustin. All of which are 6-4 and up. And DJ had a terrible, terrible game. He went 0 of 6 and fouled out, if I remember correctly.
More length on the perimeter is priority #1 for Rick Barnes and I can guarantee you he's trying to address it by putting the full court press on guys like Wesley Witherspoon, Tyreke Evans, and Kenny Boynton.
Hopefully we can throw our name in the mix for Devin Ebanks too.
by mvplonghorns on Mar 31, 2008 2:48 AM CDT 0 recs
It's the money
The truth is that DJ is not headed for a good NBA career. His penetration will not be nearly as effective against NBA-caliber athletes. His passing is only so-so. He will be a liability on defense against 80% of the league. And his outside shot is unproven at pro range.
He is a very good college player, but not the kind who makes the jump. Unfortunately, he has been hearing how great he is all year and his lack of improvement in the above areas indicates that he does not recognize his shortcomings. There will be lots of pressure to turn pro, especially from those who stand to profit by it. He will probably be projected into the first round. Some team will buy the hype and take a chance.
But it all comes down to money. And as with Aldridge, Ford, Gibson, Tucker, and Durant, the big money will be just too hard to turn down.
by Caradoc on
Mar 31, 2008 10:22 AM CDT
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Don't Poo Poo on DJ too much
I think he had a dramatic improvement between last year and this year, and remember he is only a sophomore.
While his penetration may not be as effective, any pro scout would salivate over a PG who is that quick, protects the ball as well as he does, and can shoot the fade away jumper. He had an off game on Sunday, but you know he has nights where even the best pros would have trouble stopping him from driving and hitting the fade away from the baseline.
As for the money, I don't see why there is a double standard for athletes. In any academic field at UT, if a student turned down a million plus offer from a business that wants him to do what he has dreamed of since childhood professionally, 99% of people would say he is an idiot because if it does not work out he can finish school later.
by Wells on
Mar 31, 2008 10:33 AM CDT
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I understand the Barnes criticism
but even if we played a perfect game today, players and coaches included, I honestly believe we'd still lose this game.
PB seems to be most irritated with our decision to crash the boards on offense and then play man to man initially.
That had a big effect on the game, but the biggest key of the game was our offense, and how it was totally destroyed by a disgusting defense by Memphis. We've played UCLA, Mich. St., KU, and OU, and I thought we played against the best defensive team all season. Their defensive intensity was ridiculous!
Rose simply outclassed DJ on both ends of the floor. Size matters.
As far as DJ coming back or not, what exactly can he work on next year as a junior? Getting taller? Unfortunately you can't teach height or practice height, and as long as he's 6'0", he's going to get pushed around by bigger defenders at this level and next level. This is probably a ridiculous comparison, but look what happened to Roy Hibbert. His draft stock dropped significantly this year. I hope the same doesn't happen to DJ next year if he comes back, though of course I'd be happy if he did return.
It didn't seem like we really ran the plays where Mason plays PG and AJ/DJ runs around. At least, I wanted to see that more.
Also thought Johnson should've gotten more playing time. Near the end of the 1st half, he was almost carrying us, scoring what seemed like 6 points in a minute. Then Barnes doesn't play him until like halfway in the 2nd half when it was basically over. I was real disappointed in that.
I'm getting sick of this three-guard lineup especially against teams with size. I seriously can't take this anymore. My "AJ TO THE BENCH!" sentiments have now returned, as he was a total liability today. I don't care if he becomes Stephon Curry next year. Unless we're playing small teams, he should not be in the starting lineup, period! Let him come off the bench to give us scoring punch with his shooting. I am so tired of playing three undersized guards at one time. It's torture for someone like me who's defensive minded.
I suggested we start either Johnson or Pittman and send either AJ or Mason to the bench. I preferred AJ and I was justified. Johnson played well and didn't get the time he deserved. James needs to play at his true 3 position. DJ is a defensive liability also against bigger guards. Mason should've guarded Rose, but then who would DJ have guarded? Anderson? I'd actually be OK with that, but then it means AJ on CDR!? Again, get rid of the 3 guard starting lineup next year! I'd go with Connor, Johnson, James, Mason, and DJ as our starting five, with a huge emphasis on the post game (which must include James).
Enough of this Phoenix Suns garbage. You can't win 6 games in a row playing like that. Lets go back to true Rick Barnes basketball and slow it down, play inside-out, and dominate like I know we can next year.
by goingforthecorner on Mar 31, 2008 4:01 AM CDT 0 recs
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As to what DJ has to gain by coming back, well, several things. One, not being in the same draft as Rose and Collison and having the chance to be the top-rated PG in the draft instead of the third. And as for what he can learn in another year, you're right, you can't teach height. But you can teach how to better deal with the height you are. Chris Paul is the same height as DJ and he's pretty much dominating the NBA right now. DJ's probably never going to be that good, but there's plenty he can learn about playing PG at 6'0" tall. And then there's this:
Enough of this Phoenix Suns garbage. You can't win 6 games in a row playing like that.
Memphis would disagree since they're playing this "Phoenix Suns garbage" pretty damn well right now.
by billyzane on
Mar 31, 2008 8:24 AM CDT
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Except
that Memphis doesn't even play like the Suns. Phoenix wishes they were ever that good defensively. Memphis can pound the ball inside and is capable of winning slow and fast. That is not Suns basketball.
by goingforthecorner on
Mar 31, 2008 4:37 PM CDT
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You misunderstand your own point
The Phoenix Suns do not play bad defense on purpose. Bad defense is not a part of the "Phoenix Suns system." They just happen to be bad at defense, generally speaking.
As Memphis has proven, you CAN play the Phoenix Suns offense while still playing good defense. There's nothing intrinsic about the Phoenix Suns' offensive system that forces you to play bad D. Thus, defense has nothing to do with it.
As for the fact that, according to you, Memphis can pound the ball down low and win slow as well as fast, well, when exactly do they do that? For the season, they are 244th in the country in percentage of scoring coming from their center and 220th n percentage of scoring coming from their power forward. Texas, on the other hand, is 242nd and 191st, respectively. What, exactly, is so different?
You need more? How about possessions per 40 minutes? Texas had 65.1 per 40 minutes this year, ranking 239th in the country. Memphis had 70.1 per 40 minutes for 64th in the country.
by billyzane on
Mar 31, 2008 10:30 PM CDT
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My point
is more about how Texas should be playing, and the Suns is not the right way. Suns don't play bad defense on purpose, but at the same time, D isn't exactly encouraged on that team. If they give up a layup, who cares? Just run back and score again.
We tried to run with Memphis and failed miserably. My point is we shouldn't be running in the first place. I thought Johnson played great yesterday but didn't get to play much. His game is down low and the mid range game. A slower game clearly favors him, along with Dexter and our other bigs.
All the big guys have to contribute a lot for us next year, and playing a Suns' style of offense is not conducive to their style of playing.
The statistics of an entire season don't mean much to me. Think about this particular game, where they dominated us INSIDE due to matchup advantages. Both teams could play Suns basketball against inferior teams because of their talent. But against Memphis, we can't play like that. That was my point.
And as for Memphis, I still don't see the Suns comparisons. The Tigers ran selectively when an opportunity was given, like when we turn it over or miss a three and they get a long rebound. Phoenix runs ALL THE TIME. They are always pushing the ball. They are not similar by any means. I recall numerous possessions where Memphis slowed it down against our zone/box defense and either penetrated or just pounded it inside. They were running a half court offense.
by goingforthecorner on
Apr 1, 2008 5:32 AM CDT
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Analyzing your stats
Lets go into the stats you just posted. Regarding Memphis' scoring from their center and PF, you're not looking at the numbers the right way. When you have Rose, CDR, and Anderson, of course your guards will be scoring the most. It's still completely unrelated to any Suns comparison, and still doesn't mean that they're incapable of going inside. The key is those guards I mentioned can also go inside.
Driving to the basket is essentially the equivalent to pounding the ball low. I'm going to assume you watched the Texas/Memphis game. Did you not notice how many easy baskets Memphis got? Or how many times they attacked the zone by going near the paint? Just because it wasn't Dozier/Dorsey doing the work, doesn't mean they weren't going inside. They had matchup advantages everywhere, and you take advantage of them by driving and getting closer to the basket.
The possessions for 40 minutes stat is meaningless. You don't need to look up any stats to know that Memphis is capable of playing fast (like your stats do indicate) and slow (if you watched the Mem/Tex game)
The Memphis game should've proved to you that they can play any style, regardless of what their stats indicate. They CAN play inside and outside, as the game clearly indicated. They used their height advantage and got so many easy baskets against the shorter Longhorns. With that advantage, they can play a slow halfcourt game and they did for moments. They can also run if given the opportunity, which they did for moments. They can do it all.
by goingforthecorner on
Apr 1, 2008 5:46 AM CDT
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Justin Mason
should always be in the starting lineup. He was the only one that physically was able to slash and dish against the Memphis guards.
at 6-2 he's not a tiny guard either. I wouldn't feel terrible if DJ left and Mason had a whole offseason to work on his shot and ballhandling.
by mvplonghorns on
Mar 31, 2008 10:04 AM CDT
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3pt FG%
Did anyone else think that playing in Reliant screwed with our outside shooting? Against the horrible backcourt that was Stanford, we were 7-22 (32%). Against the uber talented Memphis backcourt, we were 9-28 (32%).
Outside shooting was the hallmark of this team, and they were equally miserable in Reliant versus two completely different opponents.
I'm not making excuses, b/c Memphis had to shoot at the same baskets, and I agree with Peter that they probably win 4 out of 5 games.
by DogTown on Mar 31, 2008 9:08 AM CDT 0 recs
I don't know...
If it was so much the stadium as it was just the team. As I'm thinking about things, Texas has always had a really hard time with teams that are all around bigger than them in the tournament. In 2003, it was Carmelo, Warrick, and McNamara. Last year, it was Tyrus Thomas and Glen Davis. This year obviously it was the entire Memphis starting five. Maybe part of it is our recruiting or maybe our conditioning? I don't really know, but I'm noticing a pattern of what really gives us fits in these tournaments and teams like these seem to consistently do us in. I think our team next year needs a little more bulk. Pittman, for example, is just not athletic enough to handle guys like Dorsey. Sure he dunks on me and my small filipino friends at Gregory for fun, but we aren't Memphis. He's really got to do better. Thats not saying he played horrible or anything either. James isn't big enough. So adding some real bulk to our team can only help, in my honest opinion. But I take nothing away from this Texas team we had this year, we were awesome to watch. I think we just ran into a great team with a chip on their shoulder. What can you really do? Recruit, recruit, recruit.
by saveadre on
Mar 31, 2008 11:12 AM CDT
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And by last year...
by saveadre on
Mar 31, 2008 11:22 AM CDT
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Memphis is a great team, but UT made them look
like the Harlem Globetrotters.
This is a team that almost lost to UTEP, UAB, and lost to a Tennessee team that was a bit overrated (See Louisville blowout).
There was no excuse for the game to be a complete blowout, and I agree completely that Barnes out-thought himself. He is a great coach, and he will learn from this, but two years in a row he has allowed himself to get completely shell-shocked by a team that plays a style of basketball he obviously isn't familiar with.
No excuse for consecutive blowout losses. This team had too much talent, and so did last years, to end their seasons the way they did: Completely Unprepared for the speed, length, and athleticism of their opponent.
by the1austin on Mar 31, 2008 11:27 AM CDT 0 recs
True, but also
Teams have highs and lows. Basketball is a streaky game. I think we caught a Memphis team that was on fire. Don't forget that they also whooped Michigan State two nights before, and Michigan State was a pretty good team as well. It's not always about being the best team over a long stretch, but rather being the best team in late March.
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