Chiles to WR?

by ryanlionrah on May 7, 2008 5:46 PM CDT

I apologize for such a short post, as I have very little information from myself, but I know someone who works for the orangebloods staff and here's what he has to say, just passing it on:

"I'm hearing that John Chiles will now be a WR fulltime instead of a QB. He still might get some QB snaps, but he will no longer be part of the QB depth chart."

Not that our possibly former situation looked much better, but if this true this brings about Harris as our #2 QB and probably kills his thoughts of transferring. I know alot of people were looking for more Colt and Chiles plays, but I'm not sure this is what they envisioned. Would be sick to watch him out in the open field a little more however.

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hmmm

not calling you a liar, but sounds like speculation (no sources, “I have a friend…”) you get the idea.

Assuming its true, this would be pretty major. I really think Sherrod has gotten a bad deal though. He took like 3 snaps last year. He seems like a cool dude, I’ve seem him around campus, just like jammin out to his ipod.

by owenh on May 7, 2008 6:17 PM CDT reply reply 0 recs

Yeah

I was hesitant to post it because of that, but it’s slow and I thought people would enjoy just thinking about football. Sherrod is indeed a good guy, one of my best (girl) friends knows him quite well haha. In the biblical sense you might say.

by ryanlionrah on May 7, 2008 6:34 PM CDT reply reply 0 recs

And Henry Melton :P

by ryanlionrah on May 7, 2008 6:34 PM CDT up reply reply 0 recs

this would be

excellent news if it turns out to be true. this would give us that explosiveness that we need so badly on offense right now.

by Hook'em13 on May 7, 2008 7:49 PM CDT reply reply 0 recs

Good news, if accurate.

I think it strengthens both positions.

by whills on May 8, 2008 12:39 AM CDT reply reply 0 recs

WR?

I don’t know. I think he’ll work at QB if used properly.

by Longhorns84 on May 8, 2008 8:13 AM CDT reply reply 0 recs

What is proper usage of him at QB?

by BoddickerIsClutch on May 8, 2008 8:44 AM CDT up reply reply 0 recs

Not having to throw a pass

cue: rimshot

So you're saying that now I have to think of some witty Sig that will be applicable across all the SBN sites? Go TexanHornStros!

by Shake on May 8, 2008 11:30 AM CDT up reply reply 0 recs

if Colt is our guy

then why not? not that we’d model strategy after OU, but they moved a guy to WR and back with some success, so it isn’t necessarily a long-term irreversible decision.

by littlevisigoth on May 8, 2008 10:24 AM CDT reply reply 0 recs

re:

so do we hope that if we lose to OU again, Colt gets a summer job selling cars?

by vy til i die on May 8, 2008 11:08 AM CDT up reply reply 0 recs

I get that OU is the biggest rival

But those who dont support Colt should really rather mold their arguments in the vein of aTm, not OU.

For the record, Colt is 1-1 against OU, with a total series score of 49-38 (In Texas’ favor), and Colt has gone 30/44 (68% Completion) for 4 TDs, 1 pick and 432 yards.

OU is not his choke job, at least not yet.

by BoddickerIsClutch on May 8, 2008 1:28 PM CDT up reply reply 0 recs

re:

I was just pointing out the comparison of our situation to ou’s…i like colt as our qb

by vy til i die on May 8, 2008 1:33 PM CDT up reply reply 0 recs

I wish Rhett was still around.

by BoddickerIsClutch on May 8, 2008 1:36 PM CDT up reply reply 0 recs

ou

The only reason Texas won his freshman year, was because they won the turnover battle. That game is decided every year by the amount of turnovers.

by Longhorns84 on May 9, 2008 7:43 AM CDT up reply reply 0 recs

Oh man where to start....

Alright, first off. If indeed the only reason Texas wins is due to winning turnovers, wouldn’t Colt’s lack of interceptions be a major component of that? I don’t care to look it up, but I’m willing to guess, on many years of many teams in all of college football the top individual on offense to turn the ball over would probably be quarterback. So even if what you suggest is true, I still maintain, Colt has a pretty big part in that.

Second, how many OU games have you watched? Some games are close enough to be determined by turnovers. Im sure every Longhorn out there would have felt much better about our chances to come out with a victory this past year had Jamal not coughed it up in the redzone, however thats just a ridiculous statement. Let me provide a few examples.

2005:
Texas – 45 (1TOs)
OU – 10 (2TOs)
Point Differential +35
TO Differential +1

2004:
Texas – 0 (3 TOs)
OU – 12 (3 TOs)
Point Differential -12
TO Differential 0

2003:
Texas – 17 (6 TOs)
OU – 65 (1 TO)
Point Differential -48
TO Differential -5

2002:
Texas – 24 (4 TOs)
OU – 35 (4 TOs)
Point Differential -11
TO Differential 0

I guess you could say that the team that wins the turnover battle wins the game, but thats indicitive of the game as well. Its like saying, the OU game is decided every year by the team that scores more touchdowns.

Anyway, clearly in 2 of the past 5 years at least, the turnovers were even, so its hard to say that they decided the game.

by BoddickerIsClutch on May 9, 2008 8:30 AM CDT up reply reply 0 recs

usage

Texas would have to run the same offense as they did when VY was there. Chiles is only a soph. I think I remember people saying somebody else couldn’t throw the ball all the way up until he was holding the national championship trophy.

I don’t think on Chiles worst day, it would be any worse than Kansas State last year.

by Longhorns84 on May 9, 2008 7:40 AM CDT reply reply 0 recs

This was Vince's first game

http://www.burntorangenation.com/2008/4/22/447180/a-legend-is-born-vince-yo

How many games will it take for Chiles to get the passing numbers Vince got in his first pass?

Until Chiles has the threat to throw, he will never be a quality QB. Im all for it if he shows that he can pass, but to date he hasnt, at all. Dont compare him to Vince, rewatch that video. Thats how a star is born. Chiles is no Vince, stop trying to make him into one.

by BoddickerIsClutch on May 9, 2008 8:40 AM CDT up reply reply 0 recs

turnovers

I didn’t see 2006 and 2007 in your stats. I think 2006 and 2007 contribute to my point. Texas had less turnovers in 2006, and ou had less in 2007. The 2005 year was different, because Texas had one of the greatest teams ever.

by Longhorns84 on May 9, 2008 11:08 AM CDT reply reply 0 recs

I did neglect 2007

2006 I didnt provide the stats because I provided the commentary about Charles fumble, it was included in my conclusion of 2/5 games TOs not deciding.

Your right in 2005 I would also say TOs didnt matter, but for your benefit the data suggests the team with less turn overs won, so I kept it in there.

So in 1/3 of the past 6 games, TOs didnt make the difference, if you count 2005 as a win for turnovers.

My point is, if you took all college football games, I bet you would find similar stats. Turnovers is not a winning stat against OU any more than anything else. And eve if you think TOs is the end all be all, no one is more important to that stat than the QB, so making the claim that the win Colt’s freshman year had nothing to do with him, is ludicrous.

by BoddickerIsClutch on May 9, 2008 11:27 AM CDT up reply reply 0 recs

Let me clarify

If you think 2005 was not indicative of turnovers deciding the outcome, then only 1/2 the games played in the last 6 years have been “decided” by turnovers.

by BoddickerIsClutch on May 9, 2008 11:29 AM CDT up reply reply 0 recs

Vince

I know there will NEVER be another Vince… I just think people are already giving up on Chiles, just like many did on Vince (as a passer).

by Longhorns84 on May 9, 2008 11:10 AM CDT reply reply 0 recs

The media gave up on Vince as a passer

I dont think the Austin faithful did. Thats a different situation than Chiles.

Also, I havent given up on him, but he has to show SOMETHING for me to claim that he can be a passer. He was a WR in most of high school, thats where he could do this team the most good. I really hope he gets some looks out there. I think its insane that we havent seen Colt and Chiles on the field at the same time more. Its a waste of talent not to use him however we can.

by BoddickerIsClutch on May 9, 2008 11:32 AM CDT up reply reply 0 recs

2005

If Texas would have lost the turnover battle in 2005, I think they still would have won (thats what I’m trying to say) ! The better teams can overcome turnovers. The years when the turnovers were even, I think the better coached team won.

by Longhorns84 on May 9, 2008 1:38 PM CDT reply reply 0 recs