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Greg Davis Review, Part 1: Pre-Texas Career

We begin the Greg Davis Review with an introduction of sorts, presented in Q&A format for the convenience of all. (Mostly, for the convenience of me.)

Where did Greg Davis come from, anyway? Did he and Mack play in the same sandbox as kids or what? Where's this all start?

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Gregory Davis hails from Groves, Texas, a small town on the north side of Port Arthur, where he attended Port Neches-Groves High School. A 1973 college graduate of McNeese State with a bachelor's degree in sports administration, Davis began his career in the high school ranks while working toward a master's degree. He coached at Barbe High School (Lake Charles, La.) from 1973-74 and Port Neches-Groves High School from 1975-77, where he helped lead the Indians to the 1975 Texas 4A state title.

So, no... he and Mack were not twinsies at birth. Greg's a born-and-raised Texan who came up through the high school ranks.

Has Greg Davis really coached at both Texas A&M and Arkansas during his career?

Correct. (The especially paranoid may want to note that Mack Brown got his start as QB Coach at Oklahoma.)

Davis got his first college gig in 1978 when Texas A&M hired him as the team's Quarterbacks Coach. He would coach in College Station for seven years, in what was a remarkably unremarkable period in A&M football history. The Aggies finished ranked #19 in 1978 but would not sniff the final AP Top 25 again until 1985... the year Davis left to join Mack Brown at Tulane.

Davis joined Mack Brown as an "Assistant Head Coach/WRs Coach" at Tulane, where the two helped turned a miserable Tulane team (1-10 in 1985) into a respectable 6-6 squad by 1987, with the Green Wave making just their fifth bowl appearance in 40 years.

When Brown left Tulane in 1988, Davis was promoted to head coach, where he remained until his firing in 1991 following a 1-10 season. From there Davis joined the Arkansas staff as Offensive Coordinator/QBs coach.

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Davis had some pretty low moments at Arkansas, didn't he?

[Guest contribution from 'TaylorTRoom' of Barking Carnival] We’re all familiar with the Horns offense being shut down in big games. Those aren’t Davis’ worst games. His single worst game as an OC was probably at Arkansas in ’92, when the Hogs lost to D-1AA Citadel at home, 3 – 10. That night, [Arkansas AD Frank] Broyles fired head coach Jack Crowe and promoted DC Joe Kines to head coach. 

It’s demoralizing to realize that to Davis, any Saturday disaster that doesn’t end with him working for the Defensive Coordinator is not such a bad day. 

[PB here again] Even setting aside the embarrassing 3-point showing against Citadel, the Davis-led Razorbacks averaged an unimpressive 16.7 points per game in 1992. The following season was worse - at least on offense - as the Piggies scored just 165 points on the season (15.0 ppg), though they did improve to 6-4.

So... apparently he survived two nondescript years at Arkansas. What was next?

Despite the pedestrian record as Arkansas' offensive coordinator, Davis got his next big break when  he was hired as Georgia's "Passing Game Coordinator" prior to the 1994 season. If the preceding career review hasn't been especially impressive, I think Davis' time at Georgia appears to be noteworthy as a potential step forward. His staff page at MB-TF.com especially mentions his successes while in Athens:

While at Georgia, Davis helped lead the Bulldogs to the 1995 Peach Bowl despite injuries to the team's top two QBs. He did so by preparing converted slot back Hines Ward for the starting QB job. Ward set a school bowl game record by completing 31-of-59 passes for 413 yards in the Peach Bowl. Davis also coached first-team All-American Eric Zeier, a third-round pick of the Cleveland Browns (1995 NFL Draft). Zeier set UGA marks for passing (3,721) and total yards (5,135) in ‘94.

Always better not to treat press releases as gospel, though, so we turn to Paul Westerdawg of the outstanding Georgia Sports Blog, who offers this take on Davis' tenure in Athens:

At Georgia, Davis tutored under offensive coordinator Wayne McDuffie, who is revered in Athens for his offensive mind. He brought a wide open, balanced passing attack to Athens for the first time in 40-50 years. Though I'm not able to find the source link on this, McDuffie is also said to have been credited by Mark Richt for inventing most of the core schemes of the current FSU and UGA offenses while working under Bobby Bowden.

Unfortunately, the downside of working with McDuffie was the fact that we later learned that McDuffie suffered from severe bi-polar disorder which resulted in him taking his own life in the mid-90s.

Davis also worked with Darryl Drake (former UGA and UT wide receivers coach) while in Athens. I would list Drake as the best wide receivers coach at Georgia possibly in the school's history. Unfortunately for Davis, his head coach (Ray Goff) was more interested in watching soap operas than breaking down game film. The result for Davis: His time in Athens was sort of all over the place.

It's not clear to me how much of UGA's ability to move the ball in 1994-1995 was due to McDuffie and how much due to Greg Davis. In 1994, Georgia had Terrell Davis at running back, but injuries and personality disputes with Coach Goff kept him out of the lineup. With no running threat, the Dawgs were extremely pass heavy.

In 1995, the team lost its top three running backs and quarterback within the first several games. Any offensive production was miraculous for that unit.  As Greg Davis' bio mentions, the mid-season conversion of Hines Ward from wide receiver to quarterback in 1995 was particularly impressive. Watching Ward throw for 400 yards in the 1995 Peach Bowl with a broken hand and sore knee is both a testament to his own athletic ability and toughness as well as the coaching he was getting on the sidelines.

Said differently... I'm not sure how much I can endorse Davis other than to say he faced some large obstacles at Georgia in 1994 and '95 in terms of personnel and coaching culture. Yet, he was exposed to two of the premier passing minds that worked the UGA sidelines. Take from that what you will.

And Mack Brown came calling again after the Georgia years?

Bingo. Greg Davis and Mack Brown were reunited prior to the 1996 season in Chapel Hill. Two years later, the two were celebrating a dominant 42-3 Gator Bowl win over Virginia Tech to conclude the 1997 season, allowing UNC to finish in the Top 10 for the second-straight season.

Unfortunately, the UNC archives only go back through 1997, making a full review of Davis' Tar Heel tenure difficult without access to a better database. Regardless, for now it suffices to say that Mack Brown was hired to Texas for the performance of his defense, which in 1997 peaked behind three All Americans, Dre Bly, Greg Ellis, and Brian Simmons. From the UNC post-season wrap:

Carolina allowed 209.3 yards per game last year. That was the lowest yardage total allowed since the 1948 team gave up just 178.0 yards per game in 10 games. It was the third straight year the Tar Heels gave up less than 300 yards per game and the fifth straight year the defense gave up less yards than the previous season. Carolina gave up 326.5 yards per game in 1992, 322.3 in 1993, 319.3 in 1994, 267.3 in 1995, 225.6 in 1996 and 209.3 in 1997.

What should we make of Davis' pre-Texas career, then?

The rosiest portrayal highlights his tenure at Georgia as a turning point in his career. Without any inside information on his time there, it's impossible to say how much that experience affected him, but the charitable view says that he took a step forward during his time in Athens and performed well enough at UNC to keep his spot at Mack Brown's side in the move to Austin. We do know that Davis' reputation as a quarterbacks coach is strong, and the work he did with Hines Ward in '95 would certainly suggest as much.

The skeptic in me wonders whether Greg Davis' rocky career prior to the breakthrough (or fortuitous positioning - who knows) in Athens may have made him especially grateful to have Mack Brown's confidence. One of the strongest criticisms of Davis is that he simply does Mack's bidding; given his rather rocky career path prior to reunion with Brown, that's certainly not implausible.

Either way, we're not here to praise or bury Greg Davis for that which he did prior to arriving in Austin; the focus is on his tenure at Texas. For now, let's just note that his pre-Texas record is inconclusive at best, uninspiring at worst.

What's next in the Greg Davis Review?

The next post will review Texas' offense under John Mackovic specifically, and pre-Mack Brown generally.

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Wow

So all we have to do is give Greg Davis an amazing athlete who he can turn into a good mobile quarterback, like Hines Ward or Vince Young, and then he will be successful…..

Man, I wish we had a kid like that on OUR team…..

Good post PB. All new info to me.

Arkansas and A&M…. I won’t say sabotage…... but sabotag-

by texasfan05 on Jun 18, 2008 5:04 AM CDT reply actions  

Interesting...

Greg Davis won the state title in high school?

by Horn Brain on Jun 18, 2008 10:06 AM CDT reply actions  

Yes

At the high school I graduated from.

So you're saying that now I have to think of some witty Sig that will be applicable across all the SBN sites? Go TexanHornStros!

by Shake on Jun 18, 2008 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

P.S.

They also made it to the 4A State Championship game again in 1977, but lost 13-10.

So you're saying that now I have to think of some witty Sig that will be applicable across all the SBN sites? Go TexanHornStros!

by Shake on Jun 18, 2008 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

...

I never in my wildest dreams would have thought I would be soooo excited to see a picture of Greg Davis! It must be summer…

Great start to an eagerly awaited, and much needed Longhorn Offense Review.

Cheers.

by DaGoose on Jun 18, 2008 12:11 PM CDT reply actions  

Thanks for the write up

You spurred me to look something up, and just thought I’d toss this in.

Maybe it just the emphasis Mack placed on defense at UNC, but I’m a little disturbed that only 3 offensive players during Greg Davis’s time there were drafted into the NFL, both 2 RB’s in later rounds and 2nd round TE. That’s compared to 11 defensive players over the same time frame. (It’s a 16 to 4 disparity if you include the year Mack and GD came to Texas)

I know a lot of factors beyond the coordinator position go into a player making the NFL, but considering the kind of talent Mack was recruiting, it makes me wonder if GD was putting the UNC offensive guys in a position to succeed.

by learned hand on Jun 18, 2008 1:54 PM CDT reply actions  

Good stat...

but it needs to be compared to what he has done here at UT. Anyone have those draft numbers?

by afaeguy on Jun 18, 2008 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

From the 99 class forward

38 Longhorns have been drafted. 20 on offense, 18 on defense. About doubling the production at UNC for draftable offensive players per year.

13 of the offensive players went in the first three rounds, so it’s hard to fault him on that score.

In total
8 OL’s
3 RB’s
2 QB
4 WR
3 TE

Some of those, like Ricky and Roy, probably were going to be first rounders anywhere they went. Guys like VY, who needed some polishing, I’ll give him credit for. Not sure these numbers mean too much, though Mack’s recruiting appears more balanced in his old age.

by learned hand on Jun 18, 2008 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

More balanced

And Texas pulls talent better.

Going back to the Tech discussions, if its generally thought that defense is more athlete oriented, and offense more systematic, it makes sense if you cant pull talent all over the board to focus on defensive players at a lesser program. Scoring those draft picks at UNC should be a major notch in Mack’s belt.

by BoddickerIsClutch on Jun 19, 2008 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

Perhaps also

a reference point for expectations of GD, since he’s coached almost an entire NFL roster’s worth of offensive talent since he’s been here, and averages about 8 future NFL players at his disposal at any given time.

by learned hand on Jun 19, 2008 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

during Mack's early years at UNC

they ran an option offense

That may explain some of the lack of draftable offensive players, except RBs.
IIRC, Davis was brought to UNC to install a WCO-based passing game.

by Beergut on Jun 18, 2008 2:11 PM CDT reply actions  

If it was funny

Your inability to format quotes properly would be a running joke.

So take that.

by Kahuna on Jun 18, 2008 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Quotes

I always thought the point of the blockquote was to quote someone else’s comment/post, or to quote from an article you’re citing in reference.

Is it also acceptable to use it when quoting oneself?

by jc25 on Jun 18, 2008 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's an abstract removed, sorta like his beer.

You are correctamundo.

Actually, if you have published something and are quoting yourself, it could be admissible.

He seems to be quoting a thought he once had about something he once read.

And maybe he has references, but he hasn’t mastered the linky.

Because they are separated, they could simply be beerfarts. Serious if you’re near him, but I think we have a treaty concerning proximity.

by whills on Jun 18, 2008 11:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not quoting anything

I appear to be hitting the same glitch when replying to some posts, although I don’t know what is causing that glitch.

I don’t have a problem quoting anything

by Beergut on Jun 19, 2008 3:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Beergut's working to cement his place in BON history.

Like dhab, Beergut wants to be “more than famous!” He wants to be infamous!

It's a Horns' world. Even Aggies play hoops with a burnt orange ball.
Is it football season YET?

by Speedway on Jun 19, 2008 8:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

Fair enough

Didn’t know about the option offense in the early days, that explains lack of draftable players before GD, however, he didn’t improve matters. They averaged about one a year before he got there, and after he got there. Meanwhile, the defense produced much better talent toward the end of Mack’s tenure. All that may be dispositive of nothing.

It’s just a somewhat shocking juxtaposition of 10 first day defensive players (and 5 first rounders) against a 2nd round tight end and 3 late offensive choices, with Leon Johnson being the most noteworthy. (Using the 16 -4 numbers from above). With that kind of athleticism being recruited, I would have expected more of it to show on the offensive side of the ball.

by learned hand on Jun 18, 2008 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

OK, this is too much.
A blockquote looks like this

It does not look all gray with courier font.

Beergut, hit “PREVIEW” and make sure your comments don’t look retarded before you post them. If you’re already doing this, then I guess it depends on if you’re using the WYSIWYG editor or the HTML? If you use WYSIWYG, don’t do any formatting, no “p” no “br” none of that stuff. Just type the words with no coding and post it. If you use HTML, then don’t anymore. If you do all of these things and it still acts up, then either you or I will ask the SBN people why this is happening.

by Horn Brain on Jun 18, 2008 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Try the bumps on his head.
If you do all of these things and it still acts up, then either you or I will ask the SBN people why this is happening.

You’d let an aggie who has no idea what is wrong (or is massaging your youthful neurons) to be the one to call SBN? spfllurrrfffffffffffff….

That has potential. Lotsa potential.

by whills on Jun 19, 2008 12:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't format my comments

I have no idea why some of my replies are posted with no problems, and some are hitting a glitch.

I don’t use HTML, so I doubt that is the problem.

by Beergut on Jun 19, 2008 4:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

OK, I'll ask the SBN guys what they think.

Since this is your way of saying “Too lazy/don’t know how to use the internets”.

by Horn Brain on Jun 19, 2008 7:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

Nice work

It's a Horns' world. Even Aggies play hoops with a burnt orange ball.
Is it football season YET?

by Speedway on Jun 19, 2008 8:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

NICE!

Ok, Beergut, just quit pretending you’re a programmer and stop putting “code” by junk. Alternatively (since that’s probably not the problem), when you hit preview, make sure the font isn’t weird, since you can’t tell from the gray, that’s your red flag. SBN should try and figure it out, but until then, do that.

by Horn Brain on Jun 19, 2008 8:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

I've just been previewing every comment I make now

Because I don’t tag anything. The problem only seems to happen if I hit ‘enter’ to start a new line. See below:

test
test
test

by Beergut on Jun 19, 2008 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

I use Internet Explorer on two different computers

One is running XP, the other Vista, and I have the issue using both, so I don’t think it is an OS or keyboard issue.

by Beergut on Jun 20, 2008 4:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

Look at me, I'm Beergut!

If you think you’re right about whatever you just said, you’re obviously not very bright…

Bragabrag Aggie Aggie! Honk Honk!


So there, meathead.

by Horn Brain on Jun 19, 2008 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

That wasn't really trying to make sense...

Just kind of noting that code tags may be a nice way to issue imaginary buzzkill statements from Beergut from now on.

by Horn Brain on Jun 20, 2008 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

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