Under Investigation: Texas Football Camps
by Peter Bean on Jun 25, 2008 4:09 AM CDT
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PrintThough I will withhold specifics pending the conclusion of my investigation, I feel obligated to note - following Monday's enthusiastic endorsement of the 2008 Texas Premier Football Camp - that I am working late into Tuesday night on an investigation involving allegations against the very same camp. If those allegations are proven false, there's quite a story about another Texas football camp (the source of the charges); if proven true, there's no way I could possibly stand by my initial endorsement.
In the meantime, I felt it important to state publicly that Monday's endorsement is on hold, pending the outcome of my inquiry.
[UPDATE 9:05 a.m.] While I try to get at the final story behind all this, let me note on the record that I just spoke with B.J. Johnson, who emphatically denies the misrepresentation I'm investigating: "Every [player] listed on the Premier Camp website is coming to the camp." More as soon as I can put the last pieces of this together. This is one of the most bizarre sequences of events I've ever personally encountered.
[UPDATE 11:34 a.m.] I just got off the phone with Roy Williams' attorney Mark Heligman, who informs me that Williams will not be in attendance at the Texas Premier Camp and that CAA has sent a cease and desist letter to BJ Johnson and the camp organizers.
[UPDATE 11:59 a.m.] To clarify a question I received, there's nothing criminal being investigated here. This started because BON wrote a glowing endorsement for the Texas Premier Camp, and took a turn last night when a relevant party informed me that the camp was misrepresenting the participating parties. Both sides have since accused the other of lying, and I've been working to sort it out. In the meantime, I just didn't feel right leaving that initial endorsement post up. We rarely agree to promote events at BON; in this case, it's proving problematic.
[UPDATE 1:28 p.m.] I just got off the phone with Michael Griffin, who also stated he will not be in attendance at the Texas Premier Football Camp. Details in the full story, which is coming together quickly now. (If you're wondering, the answer is yes, he was surprised that the person asking him questions concluded the conversation with a big hat tip to his Rose Bowl interception in 2006.)
[UPDATE 5:43 p.m.] Just when you think things are coming together... they change. As of late last week, Roy Williams was on the radio saying he'd be participating in the camp. As of today, obviously, he's not. The story remains on hold while people try to bridge that gap for me.
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That is my favorite part of this story so far.
Whats BJ up to these days? Aside from setting up camps with the 2003 receiving core?
by BoddickerIsClutch on Jun 25, 2008 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions
According to who you ask...
... Either nothing much or something crazy shady, apparently. PB’s awake at 2AM PAC-time (and not drunk), something must be weird.
And as of five minutes ago...
Michael Griffin.
More coming when I can. This gets weirder by the second.
--PB--
OMG even if this turns out to be something horrible...
... You talked to Michael Griffin on the phone! Total win for you.
You've got a gift for suspense PB
Not to mention investigation.
I see that Veronica Mars fixation has paid off handsomely.
by learned hand on Jun 25, 2008 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions
lol
Nah, not Veronica Mars. It’s Colombo, man, that’s got him to this point.
‘Oh, just one more thing, sir.’
by Michael Bean on Jun 25, 2008 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions
I think I know what's up
It’s Chris Simms’ fault. He choked under the pressure of a football camp for children. Thanks for ruining camp for all the kids, Chris, just like you ruined everything else you’ve ever done.
by Meekrob on Jun 25, 2008 10:59 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Are you saying it was Simms, in the library, with the lead pipe? Did I win!!!?
It's a Horns' world. Even Aggies play hoops with a burnt orange ball.
Is it football season YET?
What's going on?
I have no clue if I’m going to get hit w/ a joke or a mug shot…
Nice try PB, but I think I've figured this out.
What would someone allege about a football camp with Texas athletes?
Explanation A.) – Free weed for the kids.
Explanation B.) – Athletes using this to smuggle their weed.
Easiest episode of Columbo ever!
That said, please don’t be true, whatever it is.
chill
Everyone needs to chill….im sure its a big misunderstanding…......And for Meekrob im sure you could never fill Simms shoes….....so back off a lil bit man….......
i've been meaning to ask--
what the heck does ”.nt whillis” mean???
by crocodile235 on Jun 25, 2008 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Google would tell you
But since you asked, so will I!
See the comments – http://www.burntorangenation.com/2008/5/20/523876/i-m-officially-putting-noe
And theres only one i.
by BoddickerIsClutch on Jun 25, 2008 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Ah. Thank you.
My bad for the extra i.
So it’s not Whillis as is “whatchoo talkin’ ‘bout, Whillis,” but rather Whills as in “I am Whill, the immortal being watching this mysterious story unfold.”
by crocodile235 on Jun 25, 2008 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions
thanks for the link
That’s the first time I’ve watched Lache Seastrunk’s highlights. Now I know why my texas fan buddy is so high on him.
I’m very impressed with the Wing-T scheme Temple is running, especially with their pulling linemen.
Also like how they use Seastrunk at both TB and WB in their attack.
back to the conversation at hand…
Update #2
What? Was this some kind of thing where they were using Roy’s name without his permission? Or did Roy find out about what we will heretofore mention only as “The Shenanigans” and back out?
Just a really odd confrontation
That somehow wound up working its way out through me, of all people. It was very clear to me that one of two camps was feeding me bad information, and it’s taking a lot of digging to sort out what’s actually taking place.
The backstory is pretty odd. The “shenanigans” aren’t the fireworks you’re suggesting. If anything’s ‘explosive’ about this story, it’s the way it’s rolled out over the last 12 hours. My cell phone is overheating.
--PB--
CAA???
Creative Arts Agency?
Colonial Athletic Association?
Clean Air Act?
Was the camp planning on using aerosol stickem?
by BoddickerIsClutch on Jun 25, 2008 11:51 AM CDT reply actions
Artists, actually
And they are the meanest motherfuckers in town. Practically another branch of government out here.
by Holly Anderson on Jun 25, 2008 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions
OK so Google says the CAA is...
Command Arms Accessories
Creative Artists Agency
Colonial Athletic Association
College Art Association
Christian Anime Alliance (Roflcopter)
Clean Air Act
California Autobody Association
Chinese for Affirmative Action
Canadian Avalanche association
Central African Airways
Oh damn, PB spoiled it.
That was close!
I thought for sure the Christian Anime Alliance was up in arms about something. What a relief!
I've been fuelin' my dreams eatin' greens and beans.
by 16thLonghorn on Jun 25, 2008 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Chinese for Affirmative Action?
Since when did Asians benefit from that? ;)
by TheElusiveShadow on Jun 25, 2008 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions
I was really hoping that the
Canadian Avalanche Association was involved.
The hair on my neck went up...
... when I thought about what the Christian Anime Alliance would do to BJ and co.
I just googled the Christian Anime Alliance
Wow. It is exactly what it says it is.
Your comment history
is pretty interesting, oldschool….if you’re a plant, you’re doing a really bad job of it.
by Holly Anderson on Jun 25, 2008 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I thought that as well
But was waiting to see if we were to find any comments past this week from him.
by BoddickerIsClutch on Jun 25, 2008 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Ha
I was thinking the Central African Airways needed to get involved in these “shenanigans”
The California Autobody Association would like you to apply the breaks...
Because the Chinese for Affirmative Action think you are jumping to conclusions without a mat, and the Canadian Avalanche Association is afraid you might fall down.
by BoddickerIsClutch on Jun 25, 2008 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Since CAA had 17 planes and crashed 5 of them, three times killing everyone aboard, logically he’s implying that someone must pay the highest penalty for sullying the honor of Roy Williams.
Extreme, but I know where he’s coming from.
by learned hand on Jun 25, 2008 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions
haha
Nice and Nicer
props to meekrob and learnedhand
Roy is my number 1 Texas football player of all time. So I know your statements to be fact. just in case anyone else had any doubts.
So Michael and Roy aren’t showing up, Lets hope their names were being thrown out there without their permission, and not that they agreed to let their names be used and then backed out.
From what our fearless leader has said
I’m pretty certain this is the former, with their names being promoted without permission.
by Holly Anderson on Jun 25, 2008 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions
True Story
Roy actually delivered all of Pizza Hut’s pizzas in under 30 minutes, and is now the official First Alternate for Santa.
by BoddickerIsClutch on Jun 25, 2008 2:21 PM CDT reply actions
Ha ha.
Was it St. Patricks Day in Detroit? I agree with texasfan05 Roy’s my #1 favorite – saw his first NFL game too! Sorry gotta go the Chicken Anemia Agent (CAA) is calling…
It's a Horns' world. Even Aggies play hoops with a burnt orange ball.
Is it football season YET?
Roy sporting
that Green Texas hat…..
I hope no one here wears Green Texas stuff.
by texasfan05 on Jun 25, 2008 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
My daughter does that, too.
She’s a UT senior now but damn, I just can’t abide the green texas gear but she likes it.
When I see her in it, I get a sharp metallic taste in my mouth and gold flashes…
Try asking
“How you guys?”
It's a Horns' world. Even Aggies play hoops with a burnt orange ball.
Is it football season YET?
OK I just heard....
Michael Huff talk to orangebloods, Literally heard it. And he said that yes Roy, Sloan, and BJ were supposed to be there.
Derrick Johnson, Kasey Studdard were also said to be there. of course Michael Huff said he would be there too.
If Michael Huff thinks Roy and Griffin were supposed to be there….. hmm….
heres the link. http://vmedia.rivals.com/uploads/902/654188.mp3
So the question is
Is he saying they were coming because he KNEW it, or because the camp’s clearly shady organizers told him so?
I will wait patiently for a reply from the totally-reliable-and-clearly-has-no-stake-in-this oldschool2.
by Holly Anderson on Jun 25, 2008 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Will Ron Weaver be there?
Someone get on the horn and confirm that.
by the other Andrew on Jun 25, 2008 2:48 PM CDT reply actions
Another option...
Is that Lawyers and Agents want a piece of everything their clients do. They dont let them do small time stuff like this camp because 10% of bupkis gets them a tall boy Tecate. They’d rather book them in Nike commercials that bring in a shit ton.
So sometimes players might do things for their friends without their agents knowing.
by the other Andrew on Jun 25, 2008 2:59 PM CDT reply actions
plant
I heard the interview with Michael Huff and also heard the interview with DJ on yesterday….....sounds like the guys will be at the camp….....
and no im not a plant…..........i just have better resources than you all
comment history
im new to this site….....and a loyal UT fan….so of course you wouldnt find any comment history on me…...
better resources???
so I guess directly talking to Michael Griffin and talking to Roy’s lawyer aren’t good resources??
Tell PB that
You're not fooling anyone, brah.
Just happen to show up today and do nothing but praise the camp and counter simple logic with no grammar or capital letters? Tell me you didn’t GRADUATE from UT.
by Holly Anderson on Jun 25, 2008 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Oldschool2 is driving my inner copyeditor insane...nt whills
by learned hand on Jun 25, 2008 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Mine too.
This kind of thing gives me hives.
by Holly Anderson on Jun 25, 2008 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions
No, it would appear you can't.
Don’t you have some more Longhorn kids and parents to scam? Go on, now.
by Holly Anderson on Jun 25, 2008 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions
And I still think
Roy and The Good Griffin are just covering for Simms. It’s his fault…somehow. I know it. My inside* sources tell me so.
*inside my head
by Meekrob on Jun 25, 2008 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Post will be up soon enough
Just awaiting a final comment from BJ.
Bottom line is: buyer beware.
--PB--
i think sum of you are jealous because you weren’t college athletes…..so this is your to way to bad mouth guys that you could never compete with….........AND if your true UT fan …...you love all the players that have ever worn a burnt orange jersey no matter what!!!!
by oldschool2 on Jun 25, 2008 4:38 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Recommend this comment!
This deserves a permanent home in the sidebar, verbatim.
by Holly Anderson on Jun 25, 2008 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions
I do Love Chris Simms
But I also Love my crack addicted cousin who stole money from my family members to buy his drugs….
I think you're jealous
because you weren’t a college student. So this is your way of getting back at guys who you couldn’t compete with at the grammar rodeos and spelling bees. If you were a true speaker of what is probably your mother tongue, you would love all its rules of syntax no matter what!
by Meekrob on Jun 25, 2008 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions 7 recs
That would make him
a grammar rodeo clown, no?
by Holly Anderson on Jun 25, 2008 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions
So I re-created my account just to say
That this is the funniset set of Serious Business comments ever.
as we all know
the internet, and football camps, are serious business. especially in the offseason.
by the other Andrew on Jun 25, 2008 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Just ask oldschool2
...who has gone quiet, I see.
by Holly Anderson on Jun 25, 2008 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions
That's because I stole the period off his keyboard...
...he’s powerless without the ellipsis.
by learned hand on Jun 25, 2008 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
Bravo! Touché!
Those ellipses were killing me.
It's a Horns' world. Even Aggies play hoops with a burnt orange ball.
Is it football season YET?
ha
I would never let my kid attend a camp in PuhFlugerville. That’s way out in the boonies.
by the other Andrew on Jun 26, 2008 12:34 AM CDT up reply actions
Unrelated completely , but Fresno State just won the title
Which means:
Mens National Championships Since WW2:
Fresno State: 1 Texas A&M: 0
by the1austin on Jun 25, 2008 9:11 PM CDT reply actions 7 recs
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