Under Investigation: Texas Football Camps

by PB @ BON on Jun 25, 2008 4:09 AM CDT in Events Comment 109 comments

Though I will withhold specifics pending the conclusion of my investigation, I feel obligated to note - following Monday's enthusiastic endorsement of the 2008 Texas Premier Football Camp - that I am working late into Tuesday night on an investigation involving allegations against the very same camp. If those allegations are proven false, there's quite a story about another Texas football camp (the source of the charges); if proven true, there's no way I could possibly stand by my initial endorsement.

In the meantime, I felt it important to state publicly that Monday's endorsement is on hold, pending the outcome of my inquiry.

[UPDATE 9:05 a.m.] While I try to get at the final story behind all this, let me note on the record that I just spoke with B.J. Johnson, who emphatically denies the misrepresentation I'm investigating: "Every [player] listed on the Premier Camp website is coming to the camp." More as soon as I can put the last pieces of this together. This is one of the most bizarre sequences of events I've ever personally encountered.

[UPDATE 11:34 a.m.] I just got off the phone with Roy Williams' attorney Mark Heligman, who informs me that Williams will not be in attendance at the Texas Premier Camp and that CAA has sent a cease and desist letter to BJ Johnson and the camp organizers.

[UPDATE 11:59 a.m.] To clarify a question I received, there's nothing criminal being investigated here. This started because BON wrote a glowing endorsement for the Texas Premier Camp, and took a turn last night when a relevant party informed me that the camp was misrepresenting the participating parties. Both sides have since accused the other of lying, and I've been working to sort it out. In the meantime, I just didn't feel right leaving that initial endorsement post up. We rarely agree to promote events at BON; in this case, it's proving problematic.

[UPDATE 1:28 p.m.] I just got off the phone with Michael Griffin, who also stated he will not be in attendance at the Texas Premier Football Camp. Details in the full story, which is coming together quickly now. (If you're wondering, the answer is yes, he was surprised that the person asking him questions concluded the conversation with a big hat tip to his Rose Bowl interception in 2006.)

[UPDATE 5:43 p.m.] Just when you think things are coming together... they change. As of late last week, Roy Williams was on the radio saying he'd be participating in the camp. As of today, obviously, he's not. The story remains on hold while people try to bridge that gap for me.

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This weirds YOU out?

We don’t even have a clue.

Creepiest thing you’ve ever written, Peter.

by Horn Brain on Jun 25, 2008 10:23 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

what in the hell.....?

i like that you’ve got BJ Johnson on speed-dial though.

by billyzane on Jun 25, 2008 10:37 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

To date...

That is my favorite part of this story so far.

Whats BJ up to these days? Aside from setting up camps with the 2003 receiving core?

by BoddickerIsClutch on Jun 25, 2008 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

According to who you ask...

... Either nothing much or something crazy shady, apparently. PB’s awake at 2AM PAC-time (and not drunk), something must be weird.

by Horn Brain on Jun 25, 2008 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

And as of five minutes ago...

Michael Griffin.

More coming when I can. This gets weirder by the second.

--PB--

by PB @ BON on Jun 25, 2008 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

OMG even if this turns out to be something horrible...

... You talked to Michael Griffin on the phone! Total win for you.

by Horn Brain on Jun 25, 2008 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

You've got a gift for suspense PB

Not to mention investigation.

I see that Veronica Mars fixation has paid off handsomely.

by learned hand on Jun 25, 2008 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

lol

Nah, not Veronica Mars. It’s Colombo, man, that’s got him to this point.

‘Oh, just one more thing, sir.’

by Blitzburgh on Jun 25, 2008 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

The one eyed stare down cannot be avoided.

by BoddickerIsClutch on Jun 25, 2008 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think I know what's up

It’s Chris Simms’ fault. He choked under the pressure of a football camp for children. Thanks for ruining camp for all the kids, Chris, just like you ruined everything else you’ve ever done.

by Meekrob on Jun 25, 2008 10:59 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs

Are you saying it was Simms, in the library, with the lead pipe? Did I win!!!?

It's a Horns' world. Even Aggies play hoops with a burnt orange ball.
Is it football season YET?

by Speedway on Jun 25, 2008 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

What's going on?

I have no clue if I’m going to get hit w/ a joke or a mug shot…

by Horndogger on Jun 25, 2008 11:09 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Nice try PB, but I think I've figured this out.

What would someone allege about a football camp with Texas athletes?

Explanation A.) – Free weed for the kids.

Explanation B.) – Athletes using this to smuggle their weed.

Easiest episode of Columbo ever!

That said, please don’t be true, whatever it is.

by Horn Brain on Jun 25, 2008 11:11 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

chill

Everyone needs to chill….im sure its a big misunderstanding…......And for Meekrob im sure you could never fill Simms shoes….....so back off a lil bit man….......

by oldschool2 on Jun 25, 2008 11:12 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Man had big feet? .nt whills

by Horn Brain on Jun 25, 2008 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I wear a size 14

How do I stack up?

by Meekrob on Jun 25, 2008 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i've been meaning to ask--

what the heck does ”.nt whillis” mean???

by crocodile235 on Jun 25, 2008 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs

Google would tell you

But since you asked, so will I!

See the comments – http://www.burntorangenation.com/2008/5/20/523876/i-m-officially-putting-noe

And theres only one i.

by BoddickerIsClutch on Jun 25, 2008 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ah. Thank you.

My bad for the extra i.

So it’s not Whillis as is “whatchoo talkin’ ‘bout, Whillis,” but rather Whills as in “I am Whill, the immortal being watching this mysterious story unfold.”

by crocodile235 on Jun 25, 2008 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

The immortal being...

... being just plain old whills.

by Horn Brain on Jun 25, 2008 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

And being iconic pays really well. nt

by whills on Jun 25, 2008 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

thanks for the link

That’s the first time I’ve watched Lache Seastrunk’s highlights. Now I know why my texas fan buddy is so high on him.

I’m very impressed with the Wing-T scheme Temple is running, especially with their pulling linemen.

Also like how they use Seastrunk at both TB and WB in their attack.

back to the conversation at hand…

by Beergut on Jun 25, 2008 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

It's quiet...

... too quiet.

by Horn Brain on Jun 25, 2008 11:32 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Update #2

What? Was this some kind of thing where they were using Roy’s name without his permission? Or did Roy find out about what we will heretofore mention only as “The Shenanigans” and back out?

by Horn Brain on Jun 25, 2008 11:46 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Just a really odd confrontation

That somehow wound up working its way out through me, of all people. It was very clear to me that one of two camps was feeding me bad information, and it’s taking a lot of digging to sort out what’s actually taking place.

The backstory is pretty odd. The “shenanigans” aren’t the fireworks you’re suggesting. If anything’s ‘explosive’ about this story, it’s the way it’s rolled out over the last 12 hours. My cell phone is overheating.

--PB--

by PB @ BON on Jun 25, 2008 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

That's our man

PB!

...always stirrin’ up trouble!

by horndude on Jun 25, 2008 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

CAA???

Creative Arts Agency?
Colonial Athletic Association?
Clean Air Act?

Was the camp planning on using aerosol stickem?

by BoddickerIsClutch on Jun 25, 2008 11:51 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Creative Arts Agency

--PB--

by PB @ BON on Jun 25, 2008 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Artists, actually

And they are the meanest motherfuckers in town. Practically another branch of government out here.

by Holly on Jun 25, 2008 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

OK so Google says the CAA is...

Command Arms Accessories
Creative Artists Agency
Colonial Athletic Association
College Art Association
Christian Anime Alliance (Roflcopter)
Clean Air Act
California Autobody Association
Chinese for Affirmative Action
Canadian Avalanche association
Central African Airways

Oh damn, PB spoiled it.

by Horn Brain on Jun 25, 2008 11:52 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

That was close!

I thought for sure the Christian Anime Alliance was up in arms about something. What a relief!

I've been fuelin' my dreams eatin' greens and beans.

by 16thLonghorn on Jun 25, 2008 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Chinese for Affirmative Action?

Since when did Asians benefit from that? ;)

by TheElusiveShadow on Jun 25, 2008 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I was really hoping that the

Canadian Avalanche Association was involved.

by ctex80 on Jun 25, 2008 11:55 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

The hair on my neck went up...

... when I thought about what the Christian Anime Alliance would do to BJ and co.

by Horn Brain on Jun 25, 2008 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I just googled the Christian Anime Alliance

Wow. It is exactly what it says it is.

by ctex80 on Jun 25, 2008 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Im sure everything will be handled accordingly…......

by oldschool2 on Jun 25, 2008 12:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Your comment history

is pretty interesting, oldschool….if you’re a plant, you’re doing a really bad job of it.

by Holly on Jun 25, 2008 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs

I thought that as well

But was waiting to see if we were to find any comments past this week from him.

by BoddickerIsClutch on Jun 25, 2008 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ha

I was thinking the Central African Airways needed to get involved in these “shenanigans”

by Houstonhorn on Jun 25, 2008 1:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

why the Central African Airways??? what are u implying???

by oldschool2 on Jun 25, 2008 1:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

The California Autobody Association would like you to apply the breaks...

Because the Chinese for Affirmative Action think you are jumping to conclusions without a mat, and the Canadian Avalanche Association is afraid you might fall down.

by BoddickerIsClutch on Jun 25, 2008 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs

Since CAA had 17 planes and crashed 5 of them, three times killing everyone aboard, logically he’s implying that someone must pay the highest penalty for sullying the honor of Roy Williams.

Extreme, but I know where he’s coming from.

by learned hand on Jun 25, 2008 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Fact

Roy is more durable than the black box.

by Meekrob on Jun 25, 2008 2:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

But Roy doesn't do air travel

because he jogs faster than the speed of sound

by learned hand on Jun 25, 2008 2:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

haha

Nice and Nicer

props to meekrob and learnedhand

Roy is my number 1 Texas football player of all time. So I know your statements to be fact. just in case anyone else had any doubts.

So Michael and Roy aren’t showing up, Lets hope their names were being thrown out there without their permission, and not that they agreed to let their names be used and then backed out.

by texasfan05 on Jun 25, 2008 2:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

From what our fearless leader has said

I’m pretty certain this is the former, with their names being promoted without permission.

by Holly on Jun 25, 2008 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

True Story

Roy actually delivered all of Pizza Hut’s pizzas in under 30 minutes, and is now the official First Alternate for Santa.

by BoddickerIsClutch on Jun 25, 2008 2:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Ha ha.

Was it St. Patricks Day in Detroit? I agree with texasfan05 Roy’s my #1 favorite – saw his first NFL game too! Sorry gotta go the Chicken Anemia Agent (CAA) is calling…

It's a Horns' world. Even Aggies play hoops with a burnt orange ball.
Is it football season YET?

by Speedway on Jun 25, 2008 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Roy sporting

that Green Texas hat…..

I hope no one here wears Green Texas stuff.

by texasfan05 on Jun 25, 2008 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs

I will now

Roy is my role model in all things, including fashion.

by Meekrob on Jun 25, 2008 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

please!

it looks like a notre dame shirt

by texasfan05 on Jun 25, 2008 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

it looks like a notre dame shirt

Except for being a hat.

So you're saying that now I have to think of some witty Sig that will be applicable across all the SBN sites? Go Texan Horn Stros!

by Shake on Jun 25, 2008 10:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

ha

u got me, i really go to A&M

by texasfan05 on Jun 25, 2008 11:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

he always wears...

...that hat

by vy til i die on Jun 25, 2008 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i kno

he had it at the Tech game 2 years ago. It upset me.

by texasfan05 on Jun 25, 2008 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

My daughter does that, too.

She’s a UT senior now but damn, I just can’t abide the green texas gear but she likes it.

When I see her in it, I get a sharp metallic taste in my mouth and gold flashes…

by whills on Jun 25, 2008 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

At least its not the pink Texas stuff. I can’t stand any pink sports stuff, but that’s just me.

'Til Gabriel blows his horn...

by mattyj on Jun 25, 2008 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

That is NOT just you

by gwh65 on Jun 25, 2008 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

From what I hear sounds like they backed out at the last minute…...they were both there last year at Regan High….......So whats wrong now????

by oldschool2 on Jun 25, 2008 2:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

From what you hear?

From whom, exactly?

by Holly on Jun 25, 2008 2:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Try asking

“How you guys?”

It's a Horns' world. Even Aggies play hoops with a burnt orange ball.
Is it football season YET?

by Speedway on Jun 25, 2008 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

OK I just heard....

Michael Huff talk to orangebloods, Literally heard it. And he said that yes Roy, Sloan, and BJ were supposed to be there.

Derrick Johnson, Kasey Studdard were also said to be there. of course Michael Huff said he would be there too.

If Michael Huff thinks Roy and Griffin were supposed to be there….. hmm….

heres the link. http://vmedia.rivals.com/uploads/902/654188.mp3

by texasfan05 on Jun 25, 2008 2:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

So the question is

Is he saying they were coming because he KNEW it, or because the camp’s clearly shady organizers told him so?

I will wait patiently for a reply from the totally-reliable-and-clearly-has-no-stake-in-this oldschool2.

by Holly on Jun 25, 2008 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Will Ron Weaver be there?

Someone get on the horn and confirm that.

by the other Andrew on Jun 25, 2008 2:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Another option...

Is that Lawyers and Agents want a piece of everything their clients do. They dont let them do small time stuff like this camp because 10% of bupkis gets them a tall boy Tecate. They’d rather book them in Nike commercials that bring in a shit ton.

So sometimes players might do things for their friends without their agents knowing.

by the other Andrew on Jun 25, 2008 2:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

plant

I heard the interview with Michael Huff and also heard the interview with DJ on yesterday….....sounds like the guys will be at the camp….....

and no im not a plant…..........i just have better resources than you all

by oldschool2 on Jun 25, 2008 3:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

comment history

im new to this site….....and a loyal UT fan….so of course you wouldnt find any comment history on me…...

by oldschool2 on Jun 25, 2008 3:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

better resources???

so I guess directly talking to Michael Griffin and talking to Roy’s lawyer aren’t good resources??

Tell PB that

by texasfan05 on Jun 25, 2008 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

You're not fooling anyone, brah.

Just happen to show up today and do nothing but praise the camp and counter simple logic with no grammar or capital letters? Tell me you didn’t GRADUATE from UT.

by Holly on Jun 25, 2008 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs

Oldschool2 is driving my inner copyeditor insane...nt whills

by learned hand on Jun 25, 2008 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Mine too.

This kind of thing gives me hives.

by Holly on Jun 25, 2008 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Also,

he drove me to use the word “brah”, which I totally resent.

by Holly on Jun 25, 2008 4:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

LOL you people are funny…....Can I not make statements like you all do or what????

by oldschool2 on Jun 25, 2008 4:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

No, it would appear you can't.

Don’t you have some more Longhorn kids and parents to scam? Go on, now.

by Holly on Jun 25, 2008 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Dude, you shouldn't have

defended Simms…. thats a bad start with Texas fans right there….

by texasfan05 on Jun 25, 2008 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

what?

by the other Andrew on Jun 25, 2008 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

he told meekrob to lay off simms

we never lay off a dude who cost us a chance to play in the NC.

by texasfan05 on Jun 25, 2008 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Some of us have let go of Simms, but not the rules of grammar...nt whills

by learned hand on Jun 25, 2008 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs

And I still think

Roy and The Good Griffin are just covering for Simms. It’s his fault…somehow. I know it. My inside* sources tell me so.

*inside my head

by Meekrob on Jun 25, 2008 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs

Post will be up soon enough

Just awaiting a final comment from BJ.

Bottom line is: buyer beware.

--PB--

by PB @ BON on Jun 25, 2008 4:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Tell BJ

That I said HI!

by texasfan05 on Jun 25, 2008 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i think sum of you are jealous because you weren’t college athletes…..so this is your to way to bad mouth guys that you could never compete with….........AND if your true UT fan …...you love all the players that have ever worn a burnt orange jersey no matter what!!!!

by oldschool2 on Jun 25, 2008 4:38 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs

Chris Simms?

Is that you?

by WorstFan on Jun 25, 2008 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Recommend this comment!

This deserves a permanent home in the sidebar, verbatim.

by Holly on Jun 25, 2008 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I do Love Chris Simms

But I also Love my crack addicted cousin who stole money from my family members to buy his drugs….

by texasfan05 on Jun 25, 2008 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

overshare?

by learned hand on Jun 25, 2008 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i may have lied, but

you get the point

by texasfan05 on Jun 25, 2008 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think you're jealous

because you weren’t a college student. So this is your way of getting back at guys who you couldn’t compete with at the grammar rodeos and spelling bees. If you were a true speaker of what is probably your mother tongue, you would love all its rules of syntax no matter what!

by Meekrob on Jun 25, 2008 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions 7 recs