First BON contribution...
...based on my limited age and experience compared to the other writers and commenters on this site, I’ve stuck to writing about what I know best—UT men’s basketball. However, as the "Favorite Stadium Moment"thread from last week demonstrated, the BON audience now includes many students. After matriculating on the UT campus for five straight years (and sticking around two more at the law school), I attended all of the recent games referenced in the thread and would like to bring up a new perspective on the topic. In reading through the posts and recollecting my own experiences, I was struck by how different games affected different people in different ways. For the purposes of this post, I’d like to examine the common themes in the "memorable experiences" and how they relate to the longstanding notion of UT as having "bad fans" at football games.
First off, for the purposes of this post, I’d like to separate "memorable experiences" from "memorable moments." While everyone remembers the end of the Texas Tech shootout in 2003 (Daily Texan Headline: "Mock and Roll!"), I’d instead like to focus on the total experience of each individual game. More specifically, I’m going to speculate on which elements contribute to a rollicking DKR crowd versus a frustratingly docile fanbase. Since 2000, several "memorable" games routinely popped up within the thread:
1) Kansas State (2007): The "Rainstorm" game
2) TCU (2007): Umm, the ugly "Beat Texas" shirts game
3) Ohio State (2006): #1 vs. #2 on national television
4) Oklahoma State (2004): The comeback game
5) Texas Tech (2003): Mock and Roll

The first thing that jumps out from this list is the lack of home games cited in the four years of 2000-2002 and 2005. To be fair, Texas went 22-0 at home in those four seasons, outscoring their opponents 974-212. That’s twenty-two games over four different seasons won by an average margin of 44-9. Far from being simply a VY offensive explosion in 2005, Texas remarkably scored over 40 points in 19 of those 22 games. In looking at the schedule, it’s hard to find fault with the fanbase on *any* of those seasons, with the potential exception of the game against #17 Iowa State in 2002. Plain and simple, Texas was manhandling the opposition, essentially pummeling their opponents into submission well before half-time or the final whistle.
Put in a larger perspective, I think the jaw-dropping run of dominance at DKR over the last eight seasons (43-4) is the biggest problem contributing to the much-maligned tranquility of DKR during most home games. Fully expecting to win every game against every opponent, many students view the game itself as an afterthought compared to the pre-game and post-game festivities. Furthermore, as the premiere social event of the week, many students treat attending the game as an obligation, rather than an opportunity to go berserk for four hours. This overconfidence, overloaded party scene, and sense of obligation leads to many students arriving to the game late, intoxicated, and staring at their watches waiting to leave to get ready for the post-game party. These late arrivals combined with thousands of alumni leaving during half-time and coming back in the middle of the second half—if at all—makes it a rare experience to see a united fanbase.
This overconfidence was fully on display during the 2007 home game with TCU and 2003 home game with Arkansas. Despite all the talk about TCU wanting "respect" and all the preseason hype over their potential BCS buster status, they were given little respect from the DKR crowd. In fact, as was even mentioned in the thread, they were given applause after the game for essentially putting up a good fight. While the crowd got a little feisty in the second half against TCU, this feistiness should have been there from the beginning, instead of simply waiting for UT to overwhelm their mid-major opponent. Similarly, Arkansas stormed into Texas in 2003 and, backed by their boisterous contingent of fans, took it to the ‘Horns. In both games, the crowd waited too far long in attempting to become a factor, as I can only assume the victory still remained a foregone conclusion to many fans.
This couldn’t be more apparent in comparing the two fanbases during the Ohio State home-and-home. In my experience, the Ohio State fans could talk about nothing BUT the game, and many students—including several females—provided analysis such as talking about how their defensive scheme would shut down the Zone Read. In the hour before the game, the Horseshoe was deafening and led me to believe we were in for quite a tussle. On the flip side, I received probably a dozen tailgating invitations before our Ohio State game and many students seemed unconcerned with our chances. Furthermore, many students arrived late to the game and the primary pre-game concern was taking pictures of Matthew McConaughey and Jake Gyllenhaal in their luxury box, instead of attempting to intimidate the Buckeyes. While I think the crowd was better than PB and Wiggo suggested, the overall experience really hammered home the depressing point that our fans weren’t an major factor in one of the biggest home games in UT history.
Despite these criticisms of the fanbase, I absolutely 100% agree with the sentiments over the 2007 Kansas State and 2004 Oklahoma State crowds in the second-half. In fact, the second half of the 2004 Oklahoma State game contained the highest amount of pandemonium I’ve witnessed on the Forty Acres. Once the crowd sniffed the comeback after the Bo Scaife TD before the half, it was thirty minutes of bedlam from the fans remaining in the stands. For perhaps the only time in my DKR visits, the *entire* crowd willed the team to a higher level and created an unforgettable environment. The post-rainstorm Kansas State crowd contained as much intensity, but it also only contained the most diehard fans who refused to leave the game. I think the both of these games spotlights the important point over the sense of obligation in attending the UT football games. When all the diehard fans came together in the rain or refused to leave down 35-7, they bonded to form unforgettable crowds, which might not have been possible without many casual fans leaving the game to head home.
In conclusion, I believe home games at DKR require certain and specific circumstances to put together unforgettable crowds. While prior to this analysis, the 1999 game against Nebraska remains the gold standard of home games for many of my relatives, which was a game few expected Texas to win. When Texas is heavily favored—correctly or incorrectly—by the fans, the sense of overconfidence leads many students to arrive late and alumni to leave at halftime, fracturing the overall fanbase. Perhaps even more damaging, overconfidence places the emphasis on the tailgating and party scene, rather than the game itself. Fans have also been turned off by the routine forty-point victories against inferior foes. However, when faced against a tight spot and perhaps having hemorrhaged many of the casual-at-best fans, Texas crowds *have* proven themselves able to impact the outcome of a game. It is my extremely unscientific opinion that the higher number of casual-at-best fans hurt the overall game experience, preventing the diehard fans from impacting the game.
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True that
I’m glad you enjoyed my post and then wrote this one as well.
I hate being described as “Picnic fans.”
I was embarrased at how low the number of people showed up for Gameday during the Ohio State game. I think it was Kirk Herb who asked “where all the Texas fans were?”
It was the butt crack of dawn, but cmon, it’s Gameday. Most teams will never see Gameday at their campus. Not to sound conceded….. but we need more fans like me and all you other BONers.
by texasfan05 on Jun 25, 2008 10:25 PM CDT 0 recs
Yeah, I will try to wake up at 7 am
on a gameday so I can go stand and listen to some ohio state dbag on the hype machine known as espn…..who cares if we have gameday? It’s overhyped and overrated, just like espn. I’ve done it before and if you get the chance to, find a cliff, lots of sharp rocks and jump!
by SneezyBeltran on Jun 25, 2008 11:37 PM CDT 1 recs
I like the post.
The ebb and flow of the fans is an important element of the game.
And there is this substantial information:
In the top home winning teams, 1998-2007, Texas ranks third with a 53-5 record and a 91.4 winning percentage.
The home crowd was seldom disappointed and could take most games for granted.
For late comers, I’d recommend the 1972 Aggie game (and this is memory and maybe not perfect). A&M received, Horns got a muffed KO and a couple of quick fumbles to start the game and led 21-0 within minutes of the start of the game. We were singing Poor Aggies and people were still arriving. Boy did they miss it. The game was over. No godzillatron, no replay.
by whills on Jun 26, 2008 2:29 AM CDT 0 recs
I agree
I must admit I left early for many of the games during the 2005 season. I lived in Prather that year and it was so close I didn`t have to miss any of the game (the only good thing about living on campus). I could either stay hungover at the game to watch us score our 8th touchdown of the day bringing the point margin to a paltry 40 points or I could walk 5 minutes and watch it with more beer and A/C. For as great of a season as 2005 was, the games were extremely boring. I can remember leaving early with my dad in the earlier part of the decade for the same reason. A 50 point game just isn`t much fun to watch unfortunately. That said, we haven`t really been afforded such luxuries the past two seasons, so I haven`t left early since then. (Rain game was awesome.)
I am however the crazy die-hard fan who loses their voice every game (My cousin informed me recently that I was seen drunkenly crying after the 2006 A&M game…no recollection of this exists in my mind haha), I just leave half a quarter early sometimes :(
by ryanlionrah on Jun 26, 2008 4:08 AM CDT 0 recs
just admit it
I must admit I left early for many of the games during the 2005 season. I lived in Prather that year and it was so close I didn`t have to miss any of the game (the only good thing about living on campus). I could either stay hungover at the game to watch us score our 8th touchdown of the day bringing the point margin to a paltry 40 points or I could walk 5 minutes and watch it with more beer and A/C. For as great of a season as 2005 was, the games were extremely boring. I can remember leaving early with my dad in the earlier part of the decade for the same reason. A 50 point game just isn`t much fun to watch unfortunately.
You’re a pussy fan who looks for any excuse to leave early. “Oh, it’s too hot!!” “Oh, I’m hungover.” Go get a dress and put on some make-up and let everyone know you’re a woman already. Scratch that, I’ve met female texas fans who are tougher and more dedicated than you. I shouldn’t be surprised, though; your father sets a poor example for you.
I am however the crazy die-hard fan who loses their voice every game
You can’t claim to be a diehard fan when you leave games early b/c it’s too hot for you. You can’t claim to be a diehard fan if you’re “bored” by blowouts. There are 12, count’em, TWELVE, regular season games every year in college football. If you’re lucky, you get to play two more, a conference championship game and a bowl game. That is fourteen games, total, on the year, and you’re gonna leave early b/c it’s too hot or the game “bores” you. In a blowout, at least one team is playing well. You get a chance to see backups and get a glimpse of younger players who might be key to the team’s future. You get a chance to experience one of the greatest things on Earth, a college football Saturday in America.
And you throw that away b/c you’re “bored”. Don’t call yourself a fan, b/c you’re far from it.
by Beergut on
Jun 26, 2008 1:09 PM CDT
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Sadly I agree
Living on campus is even more a reason never to leave early.
I can understand, if not condone, Alumni leaving early to get to their car before 85,000 try to leave at once, but if you are just walking to Prather, theres no way I wouldnt soak up every minute of the game live.
Texas football > A/C > getting a beer 45 minutes early
by BoddickerIsClutch on
Jun 26, 2008 1:13 PM CDT
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i agree...
...but to a lesser extent. I think you should stay the whole game, until “Gabriel blows his horn!”.
I shouldn’t be surprised, though; your father sets a poor example for you.
This is where I disagree. Who are you to call out someone’s dad bg?...that’s messed up in my book.
by vy til i die on
Jun 26, 2008 1:25 PM CDT
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I can remember leaving early with my dad in the earlier part of the decade for the same reason.
He wasn’t brought up right.
by Beergut on
Jun 26, 2008 1:35 PM CDT
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Point of parliamentary procedure my Agrarian Aggressor
“Hey, Beergut can’t do that to our pledges, only we can do that our pledges.” And as a card carrying member of the Aggie Jort Squad, Beerflab, you have no hazing privileges here at Beta Omicron Nu.
Sure, young Ryan-Lion has lost his pride and will be severely blogged about the head and face for blaspheming the greatest season in UT history. But that’s our job, not yours. Besides, I thought you were holding out for a position as Head Noodler at the Catfish Aquarium over in Dimebox.
So the next time you feel like playing Jackal and picking off one of our weaker links, I want you stop, take a deep breath and repeat after me…
Dear Reveille, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot touch (Sheep), the courage to approach the things I can (Aggie Women), and the wisdom to know the difference between the two. Amen.
You stick to that and you gonna be all right.
BTW, Burnt Orange People like to handle extreme temperatures at games with copious amounts of beer. The reason they leave early isn’t the heat, it’s the lucidity.
Be nobody but yourself in a world that desperately wants you to be like everybody else.
by 54b on
Jun 26, 2008 2:20 PM CDT
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fify
BTW, Burnt Orange People like to handle extreme temperatures at games by heeding Blutarski: “My advice is to begin drinking heavily.”
You had nine hours to hunt this blasphemer down and teach him the way of the true religion before I posted; you failed, forcing me to take action.
I stand by my post.
by Beergut on
Jun 27, 2008 2:13 AM CDT
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Right..
He wasn’t brought up right.
Well first of all I wasn’t raised an Aggie so that’s one up on your parents.
Second, when the Longhorns were winning by their usual margin, it’s 10 at night, and if you leave now you’ll get home at 2am with work to do the next day, it’s quite an easy decision for a 50 year old. So fuck off.
Like I said I haven’t left early since that year in any sport (other than a cold and rainy midweek baseball game against Texas State this year up 9-1 or something, I thought it’d be called for lightning), I saw the error in my ways and now do my best to stop anyone around me from leaving. Even still, I don’t by any means look down on someone who leaves a few minutes early as long as they’re a card carrying member of AA for the day. I don’t see how anyone who has been in this position can disagree.
by ryanlionrah on
Jun 27, 2008 3:03 AM CDT
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Second, when the Longhorns were winning by their usual margin, it’s 10 at night, and if you leave now you’ll get home at 2am with work to do the next day, it’s quite an easy decision for a 50 year old. So fuck off.
I’m calling BS on this, b/c texas doesn’t play that many night games.
As for work the next day, you work on Sundays?
I know 70 yr olds who make it through the whole game, at night, and are okay. Stop trying to justify your being a shitty fan.
by Beergut on
Jun 27, 2008 4:47 PM CDT
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Read closer before you reply
I believe he’s referencing his dad leaving early when he was a kid. I highly doubt Ryan is a 50 year old student living in Prather dormitory.
And I’m too lazy to see how many night games Texas played around ‘90. But I am 100% sure that you looked it up, and it must be a fact that there weren’t many…..right?
by Shake on
Jun 27, 2008 10:34 PM CDT
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Ouch...
Dang man, bad day at work? Haha. I agree that the heat or being drunk are poor reasons to leave the game early (unless the latter has made you positively sick and you’re going to puke), but I try to understand that not everyone is as crazy as college football as I am or many of the people here.
by TheElusiveShadow on
Jun 26, 2008 4:17 PM CDT
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txtwstr7
In addition to the reasons you stated so well, our not having an aggy-like, homogeneous fanbase is another factor. It’s amazing what a few cultish activities can do to get everyone on the same spirit page. And Buckeye-like mania often leads to couch burning, overturned cars and such. I’ll take us the way we are over either of those extremes.
We’re Texas!
However if we get Gameday this year, I do think you should dance to Wabash Cannonball on top of Herbstreit’s desk, to help convert some of our casual-at-best fans. It worked at The Erwin Center!
by horndude on Jun 26, 2008 7:13 AM CDT 0 recs
Its not about being a cult
This has nothing to do with txtwstr7wanting us to start building things that fall, burning couches, participating in beastiality or running our white trash asses through the street setting cars on fire with 151. Its about having a respected fanbase that doesn’t have a candy ass reputation of showing up half way through the first, sweet talking the opposing team and their fans to the point where it appears we want to date them and then leaving the game at half time. Thats flat out bull shit. That said, in a way UT created its own monster with the endless ass kickings and the “Texas Fans, Make Us Proud!” crap.
I have been to games at many opposing schools where their fans get louder in the pre game warm ups and for the fuckin band than we do for an 80 yard td pass. When I was in Columbus for the OSU game I had people walking up to me, without me sayin a word, and tellin me about how “the only thing that comes outta texas are steers and…”you know the rest, was I offended? No way, I thought it was the coolest thing ever. There is nothing wrong with bashing somebody else’s school, as long as certain lines aren’t crossed it can be so much fun arguing with opposing team’s fans. I’m not sayin we have to be ass hole fans, but is it wrong to let somebody know that you ‘re better than them because you support, or go to, or went to the best fuckin school in the country? Hell no.
At the end of the day you’re right WE ‘RE TEXAS, and now that we have the biggest stadium in the Big 12 we need to raise some hell and bring the fan factor into the game.
by tvr'11 on
Jun 26, 2008 7:58 AM CDT
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I think the Texas Fans, Make Us Proud program is great.
It's a Horns' world. Even Aggies play hoops with a burnt orange ball.
Is it football season YET?
by Speedway on
Jun 26, 2008 8:06 AM CDT
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Its not about having the biggest stadium
with a big fraction of picnickers and old people. (Although it is pretty impressive to me as a fan and a civil engineering student :])
I would prefer a full stadium of ten thousand rather than one hundred thousand, where people scream for 4 hours, and don’t leave unless they are forced to leave in accordance with Mack’s emergency exit procedures.
If it was up to me, I’d make it rain every day like it did during the Kansas State game so only the true fans would stay!! That was definitely the best fan experience for me so far, though probably the worst football one.
More than just 10 wins?
by Ultra Horn on
Jun 26, 2008 10:51 AM CDT
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I’d make it rain every day like it did during the Kansas State game so only the true fans would stay!!—-reference to Adam “Pacman” Jones who made the saying very popular..or so I thought
by vy til i die on
Jun 29, 2008 11:38 AM CDT
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You're right. I caught the reference. Good job. nt whills
It's a Horns' world. Even Aggies play hoops with a burnt orange ball.
Is it football season YET?
by Speedway on
Jun 30, 2008 6:36 AM CDT
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Didnt know
about this statement. I meant make it rain, literally, in the act of nature meaning :}
More than just 10 wins?
by Ultra Horn on
Jun 30, 2008 12:49 PM CDT
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Too funny. nt whills
It's a Horns' world. Even Aggies play hoops with a burnt orange ball.
Is it football season YET?
by Speedway on
Jun 30, 2008 1:34 PM CDT
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Oh, I thought you meant...
... make it rain non-offensive touchdowns so that we lose all of our games embarrassingly and only the “true” fans continue to watch games. This makes much more sense.
by Horn Brain on
Jun 30, 2008 3:24 PM CDT
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Give'em hell, Give'em hell, Make'em eat shit!
I've been fuelin' my dreams eatin' greens and beans.
by 16thLonghorn on Jun 26, 2008 9:48 AM CDT 0 recs
How much does crowd noise matter
After reading this, I became interested in how much crowd noise contributes to the home field advantage, so I did a little googling. No doubt it is a factor, but there’s no data that would correlate decibels to margin of victory, so we need to think about how it might work.
One obvious effect is on the refs. There have been studies where refs were shown televised plays with and without sound, and it does make a difference. But the study also showed plays with and without the crowd in the picture, and even without sound, the difference was still there. So it could be that the mere presence of the crowd is putting pressure on the refs to make the home call, whether they are screaming or not.
Another is that the noise might ‘fire up’ the players. However, there is another study that attributes the higher level of energy to a build up of testosterone in the days before the game as the players feel the urge to defend their territory and look good in front of their fans. Maybe the crown noise provides feedback that reinforces their stepped up aggressiveness,
On the other hand, there are factors related to being able to enjoy the comforts of home, good sex, and no stress from travel. There’s more time to get mentally prepared.
Another interesting study I found considered whether playing on familiar turf made a difference. This was not limited to football, but with the notable exception of MLB, it found that teams moving to a new facility often had a drop off in W-L record following the move. This would support the idea that getting to know your home field is also a factor. (In the case of MLB you might expect a dropoff because over time fielders would have come to know the nooks and crannies of their home field, but it seems this is outweighted by the way clubs design their new parks to fit the strength of the team.)
Anyway, it’s a complex problem. And I think we may tend to overstate the effect of crowd noise, since we like to think what we do ourselves may be able to help the team. We want so much to be part of it all.
Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. If they get mad, you're a mile away AND you have their shoes.
by Caradoc on Jun 26, 2008 1:03 PM CDT 0 recs
The only obvious effect Ive witnessed
Is forcing timeouts or the occasional delay of game/false start as the line cant hear audibles. This has happened plenty of times when the opposing team was backed up toward the north end zone with the band and enclosed crowd.
How much can a timeout or single penalty affect the game? Probably not much, but the crowd LOVES it when we directly affect the other team like that.
by BoddickerIsClutch on
Jun 26, 2008 1:10 PM CDT
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I really wish our fan base would MAN the EFFFF UP!!!
I mean c’mon to they guy that posted at the beginning of this post about leaving during the 2005 season games and still trying to convince us that your hardcore TEXAS football fan…get outta here!!! Your the kinda fan we are trying to get rid of. The alumni are bad enough…but at least they pay lots and lots of money. What do you do? rub one out in your dorm room? I’ve been to every home game over the past three years and stay till the EYES of TEXAS is done. And I strongly hint to my group of friends that they should do the same.
And we can still have a great and loud fan base, while still being respectful! (Insert Texas fans make us proud promo here)
HOOK ‘EM!!
And if your under the age of 30…Texas Fight should go:
GIVE ‘EM HELL
GIVE ‘EM HELL
MAKE ‘EM EAT SHIT!!!
AFTER 30 ITS OK if you tone it down a notch with GO HORNS GO! (but you know how it really goes!)
by BACON51 on Jun 26, 2008 3:11 PM CDT 0 recs
Bah! Don't try to church it up.
It won’t be the first or last time your kid hears the word “shit”.
I've been fuelin' my dreams eatin' greens and beans.
by 16thLonghorn on
Jun 26, 2008 3:24 PM CDT
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This is BS
Its whippersnappers like you that really make me angry. I’ve got a good mind to take you over my knee and teach you respect to your elders. You young people with your MPThree players, cellular phones, digital TVs, godzilla tron. Back in my day it was never OK to tone it down a notch. It was OK to switch out Make em eat shit with OU Sucks.
Over 30, really? maybe over 80.
by billb on
Jun 26, 2008 3:39 PM CDT
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I'm not a curser
So I usually say “OU sucks,” or “[Insert name of opponent] sucks.” Only when I get unbelievably angry and riled up do I start allowing curse words out (which was, uh, somewhat often last season). Call me old-fashioned (although I’m only 22), but that’s the way I was raised. Sue me, but I still love my Longhorns.
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Alumni
Texas alumni are the worst fans. I will never forget when an old Texas-ex asked me if I could sit down when I was cheering. I told him HELL NO, go home and watch it on TV. To me, that is a picnic fan. What is the point of going to a game if your going to sit there on your a$$, and golf clap when something good happens.
by Longhorns84 on
Jun 27, 2008 11:20 AM CDT
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"Back in my day it was never OK to tone it down a notch"
Well, since I am a 50ish year old graduate and have been going forever to UT games, I can tell you that the time period of late eighties to mid nineties (pre Mack) saw lots of Texas fans not even attend games and thousands who left in the 3rd qtr when the Aggies dominated us for so many years – and that included the students!
I was hounded by my aggie friends about how Texas games were lame in Austin with the Texas fans – compared to Dallas Cowboy fans. Not sure "when your day was", but to say this is only related to the kids today is false.
As in just about everything, winning makes it easier. But one of my proudest moments was last year at the KSU games and we stayed throughout the entire half time. I was so wet that I had to take off my shoes to drain the water and a friend next to me was quacking like a duck in the rain – what a sight.
We got blasted in that game and yes we stayed to the end of the game to sing the "eyes" but my wondering mind reflected on the time frame I mentioned above and reflected again that in life there are both wins and losses and staying the course is the key. The course is that I am a Longhorn and that means not being defined by W’s and L’s.
Hook em’
by texascfo on Jun 27, 2008 11:36 AM CDT 1 recs
More than anything
I was pointing out that 30 was an extremely youthful figure for which to make it OK to tone it down a notch. I was going to Texas games from the Akers era, to the McwWlliams era to Makovic to now. So I know what you speak of regarding fams leaving early or not coming at all. (I still remember when you could get $5 endzone seats at HEB). I have stayed for my share of blowouts (66-3) , yes winning makes it easier, but the only game I can remember leaving early was the 2005 Ok St game. I made the mistake of bringing my wife. She made the mistake of wearing “The cute shoes” (as opposed to the comfortable shoes). She has had three foot surgeries and so when she said she had to leave, we left. (I told her we were going to comeback and win, she didn’t care-as a side note she is not longer allowed to attend games). I understand there are times you have to leave early, But I think people that make a habit of it are not good fans.
by billb on
Jun 27, 2008 1:06 PM CDT
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For full disclosure...
...I’ve left a handful of football games early in my five years on-campus. Nothing too ridiculous or shameful, but I don’t think it makes someone a “bad fan” to leave a game or two before the final whistle when we’re delivering a astronomically lopsided ass-whipping to an overmatched foe.
For additionaly disclosure, I despise the “Make ‘Em Eat _” line at the end of the fight song, especially at basketball games. There are little kids who sit in the section adjacent to the O-Zone, and I feel uncomfortable belting out obscenities instead of the actual words…
I feel pretty comfortable in both areas, even though both can be construed as making me a “weak” or “bad” fan…
by txtwstr7 on Jun 27, 2008 12:47 PM CDT 0 recs
For the record,
the “actual” words are:
Hail, Hail, The gang’s all here,
And it’s good-bye to all the rest!
I've been fuelin' my dreams eatin' greens and beans.
by 16thLonghorn on
Jun 27, 2008 1:51 PM CDT
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Your going to a game with 5,000 college students
Who most of whom are minds of the 21st century who realizes that cuss words are JUST WORDS. We are not fighting or throwing stuff everywhere, and mooning people. So stop acting like “Make’em Eat Shit” is such a big deal.
If you don’t want your kids to hear those words then don’t bring them to a sporting event. And even if they do here those words, tell them not to say it!!! I have a 6 year old little sister who I’ve seen say a bad word because she hears people saying them. My dad whooped her ass, and now she doesn’t say it anymore. End of story.
Tech says “F*” in their chant, as does Kansas, and Mizzouri. I’m sure they are not alone. We say shit.
BFD!
by texasfan05 on
Jun 27, 2008 2:34 PM CDT
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Does CPS need to get involved?
My dad whooped her ass, and now she doesn’t say it anymore. End of story.
by Wells on
Jun 28, 2008 9:41 AM CDT
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HA HA HA HA
It's a Horns' world. Even Aggies play hoops with a burnt orange ball.
Is it football season YET?
by Speedway on
Jun 30, 2008 3:57 PM CDT
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What hasd the world come to?
How is “make ‘em eat shit” such an issue for some people? I don’t know how long people have been substituting the line, but I do know that when my mom went to UT, back in the glory days of Earl Campbell, she said it. In fact I thought the actual words to the song were “make em eat shit” until I was 12. It has basically become tradition. People need to just get over it. I can come up with much worse 4 sylable phrases than that, so just be happy it hasn’t gone beyond using the word shit. Don’t turn this into a morality thing about kids hearing the word shit and how its gonna ruin their childhood. I’m sure they ll turn out just fine, and if you can attribute a kids traumatic childhood to hearing shit at UT sporting events then I’ll pay for the counceling.
by tvr'11 on Jun 27, 2008 1:07 PM CDT 2 recs
When I was in junior high in the 70's
my dad and I went to every Texas A&I Javelinas football game (3 straight NAIA Div. 1 championships, 38 game unbeaten streak). At the home games we sat in the student section listening to chants of “rah rah ree rah rah rit, we think your team looks like shit!” and “rah rah ree rah rah ralls, we’ve got your team by the balls!” and we thought it was hilarious. A bonding moment between father and son… If you can’t get worked up enough to curse at the other team that’s fine, but I like that kind of passion. Everytime I see a car with an aggie sticker on it, I yell “fuckin’ aggie” much to the consternation of my better half.
Brown Control to Major Applewhite...
by BFAUT86 on
Jun 27, 2008 1:13 PM CDT
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we've got your team by the balls
“pull, team, PULL!” – that’s how it went.
Brown Control to Major Applewhite...
by BFAUT86 on
Jun 27, 2008 1:14 PM CDT
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It's not an issue of getting worked up
I see many drunken, idiot frat boys curse up a storm, but they fail to pay attention to the game and fail to say anything meaningful than yell and curse (often at our own players). When they do try to say somethign smart, it’s just flat wrong and shows how poor they are at analyzing the game.. Cursing does not equal being passionate about your team. I’m a passionate fan but I refrain from using that language. I don’t have too much of a problem with it if other people do, but that’s not something I try to do. And I’ll pit my football knowledge and my fandom against any of the loud “cursers” at the stadium any day.
by TheElusiveShadow on
Jun 27, 2008 1:53 PM CDT
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Way to pick your target
Alright then “coach” send me your invaluable analysis of the ‘07 season, so I can see what a meaningful opinion looks like next to my drunken idiot frat boy opinion. I was there, every minute of every game, I bet I yelled more, cursed more, drank more and most importantly had a shitload more fun than you did. Get off your pedestal and watch the game with the rest of the fans. I’ll bet you were a student once too
by tvr'11 on
Jun 27, 2008 2:18 PM CDT
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Whoa there
I did not imply you were an idiot frat boy. Not all frat boys are idiots; I happen to be friends with some. You may notice I was not even responding to you; I was responding to BFAUT86 for seemingly implying that fans who don’t curse at the other team are not “worked up” or not as passionate. I disagreed with this, and that’s why I pointed that there are many idiots at the game who curse and be loud but don’t really pay attention to what’s going on. Is that you? I have no idea. I didn’t make the slightest implication that it was (again, I wasn’t responding to you).
I was once a student… and I still am. Like I said in my post, I don’t have much of a problem with people who choose to curse at the other team. I do have a problem if they think that those who choose not to are less passionate about their Longhorns. You frankly seem way, way too sensitive about this. If you want to get drunk and curse at the other team, then go for it. I don’t have a problem with that. What I do have a problem with is if someone implies that people who don’t do likewise have less passion.
by TheElusiveShadow on
Jun 27, 2008 3:00 PM CDT
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"fan"
I can’t make it to every game but when I can, I prefer to stay until “The Eyes of Texas.” Have I ever left the stadium before the end of a game? Yes. GASP!
According to some, that makes me a bad “fan” and I should never be allowed to go to anymore games.
I am not a “Texas Longhorn Fan”, I am a Texas Longhorn. And there is A LOT more to being a Texas Longhorn than how long I stand on a metal bench.
*great post by the way.
I've been fuelin' my dreams eatin' greens and beans.
by 16thLonghorn on Jun 27, 2008 1:49 PM CDT 0 recs
It's not...
...necessarily a morality thing. And I’m not a big proponent of “will somebody PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN?” argument, at least, not in these circumstances…
I just think it’s dumb, and I don’t like it. Never have. And I especially don’t like it at the O-Zone during basketball games, with the aggravating circumstances of having little kids around.
I’d rather-and always do-yell “Go Horns Go”, but that’s just me…on the flip side, I thoroughly enjoy, endorse, and appreciate the “OU SUCKS” alteration to the fight song…
by txtwstr7 on Jun 27, 2008 1:51 PM CDT 2 recs
OU Sucks
Refers to sucking on a certain body part…. is that better???
by texasfan05 on
Jun 27, 2008 2:38 PM CDT
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Amen texasfan05
Have fun explaining that to your kids over what shit is
Dad at Red River Shootout (or any game if you’ reone of the idiots that yells “OU sucks” even when we aren’t playing against them) with his son
Crowd: “Give ‘em hell, give ‘em hell, OU sucks!!!”
Son: “Daddy whats everybody saying?”
Dad: “Well they sure aren’t saying make ‘em eat shit cause that would be wrong, they re saying OU sucks little johnny.”
Son: “What are they sucking on?”
Dad: “Fuck…”
Little early for the sex talk don’t you think
by tvr'11 on
Jun 27, 2008 2:51 PM CDT
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For what it's worth...
... I’ll yell “make ‘em eat shit” if there are just students around, but I’ll go with “Go Horns Go!” when there are kids/old people around. If anyone else wants to yell shit, fine, but it doesn’t bother me what anyone else says as long as it’s loud. I find that the biggest problem with our fans is getting them to say anything. Starting chants can be an absolute nightmare at DKR or the FEC. I guess I understand that no one wants to be “the guy” that yells “FIGHT!” all by himself for two or three times, but I’ve always brushed that feeling aside with “if they think I’m weird for yelling Texas Fight, then they probably won’t be here in two quarters anyway, so who cares?” To be fair to the fans, though, the incessant blasting of Time Warner Cable golfing ads is a real killer once Texas Fight gets started.
by Horn Brain on
Jun 27, 2008 3:24 PM CDT
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They got better last year
but 2 years ago, it seemed that every Texas Fight was interrupted by a commercial for Time Warner Cable.
which btw, is a monopoly in my eyes.
by texasfan05 on
Jun 27, 2008 3:59 PM CDT
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Funny about the wifes shoes.
All the husbands here can relate to when she said “we have to leave and we left”. Enough said!
I have to say that when I have to be back in Dallas for a board meeting on Sunday and the 7:00 Saturday game is a blowout in the 4th qtr, I am not ashamed to leave at 10:00 to get back by 2:00 a.m.
Have been taking my son to games all his life and he is now a senior at UT. I have always try to stay until the end but sometimes things come up in life and you have to change priorities. I come to enjoy the game, the campus, see my son and yell for the horns. I am not focused on when and if fans leave a game.
by texascfo on Jun 27, 2008 2:06 PM CDT 0 recs
Agreed
Leaving early in and of itself doesn’t necessarily make someone a bad fan. People do have lives, after all. Perhaps people can have poor reasons for leaving, but a long drive back to another city, family and work obligations, etc. certainly would constitute good reasons. My roommate, for instance, got woozy during a game so we told him to go home. He threw up twice as he walked back to our apartment. Let me assure you he’s a true, passionate fan of Texas.
It’s honestly a bit bizarre to me how people define “true” fandom by really irrelevant things. I’m a guy who rarely leaves games early but I don’t count that as a reason I’m a true fan. I’m a true fan because I support my Horns during tough times and I try to be gracious in defeat (even though it stings, and let me tell you, a mark of fake fans is often those are ungracious and make silly excuses in defeat, because they are only “fans” to get a high off of success and can’t handle the lows). I’m a true fan because when I get royally ticked off at players and coaches, I’ll get over it, put my objective hat on, and try to offer more level headed criticisms than hateful insults (like Chris Simms got). I don’t pretend I know more than Mack Brown, but I truly try to learn the game more and see where we can improve. I really don’t see how a lot of this other superficial stuff that frankly any soccer hooligan can do has direct relation to the game of football itself.
by TheElusiveShadow on
Jun 27, 2008 3:23 PM CDT
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Well here you go Beergut
txtwistr is clearly a pussy fan, eh?
Go ahead and gather up all your buddies, lets get the crucifixions started. That’s my dad posting, so feel free to criticize everything about our family, our school, my favorite color, which animals I don’t like to get intimate with, whatever you wish :)
by ryanlionrah on
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