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NBA Draft 2008 Open Thread

Not sure how many of you will be watching but, if you are, post your comments here.

It is all but certain that the Chicago Bulls will take Memphis point guard, Derrick Rose, at number one. After that, the safe money is on Michael Beasley to Miami, but there have been some rumors about the Heat trading down. If this happens, let me be one of the many to say, WTF? Beasley is going to be a beast in the NBA.

Also, after the TJ Ford / Jermaine O'Neal trade yesterday, the Indiana Pacers will not be taking DJ Augustin in the first round. Who will? Most mock drafts still have DJ being a lottery pick. Maybe New York at #6? or the LA Clippers at #7? or the Charlotte Bobcats at #9? or maybe he slips all the way to the Portland Trail Blazers at #13 with Greg Oden and Lamarcus Aldridge? That wouldn't be the worst situation in the world for a young point guard who looks to pass first.

Let's see...

 

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So far, as expected

1. Derrick Rose, Memphis to the Chicago Bulls
2. Michael Beasley, Kansas State to the Miami Heat
3. OJ Mayo, USC to the Minnesota Timberwolves

Have three freshman ever gone 1-2-3?

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by awiggo on Jun 26, 2008 6:53 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Westbrook to join KD in Seattle / Ok City

This is a bit of a surprise. The Supersonics go with a tweener guard at #4. He is not a point guard at all and doesn’t shoot the ball well enough to play the two guard. He is a great finisher and an ever better defender.

If Westbrook is the fourth best player, then this is a VERY weak draft.

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by awiggo on Jun 26, 2008 6:57 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Careful...

you may piss some certain fans off ;-)

by Paragon SC on Jun 26, 2008 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bold prediction

D.J. Augustin right here to the Knicks to fill the Steve Nash role in D’Antoni’s offense.

by WorstFan on Jun 26, 2008 7:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Don't like DJ to NY

Augustin is not flashy and would not fit in the NYC. I’d love to see him in an offense like D’Antoni’s but not in NYC.

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by awiggo on Jun 26, 2008 7:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Love it

Knicks go with a Eurpoean player and Madison Square Garden erupts into a chorus of boos.

Danilo Gallinair, Italy to Knick at #6.

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by awiggo on Jun 26, 2008 7:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Agreed on DJ

Fortunately it didn’t come to fruition. LA’s second squad would make some sense as an insurance policy for Shaun Livingston should he never recover fully from that graphic injury of seasons’ past, but man, how can you not root for the Blazers to pull some typical of late Kevin Pritchard brilliance and parlay the first rounder they recently acquired from New Orleans along with the 13th pick to move up and land him?

by WorstFan on Jun 26, 2008 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

sonics

I’m not a big fan of Westbrook to the Sonics, although Bill Simmons will be.

Westbrook’s lightning quick and a good defender, but I don’t see enough of an offensive game to succeed in the pros.

by jc25 on Jun 26, 2008 7:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Westbrook to me is a career backup

Also, isn’t Ridnour already a proven all-star classical point guard? Bad day for former all-star dopey white point guards tonight.

by WorstFan on Jun 26, 2008 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

RIdnour

Was a hell of a college point guard; much better than Westbrook. I thought he’d be better in the pros.

by jc25 on Jun 26, 2008 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gallinari

I think the Knicks fans are booing just to boo. Didn’t the Daily News (or one of the other mags) run a poll where Danilo was far and away the preferred fans’ pick?

By the way, he sounds a little bit like Ahnold.

“Cahn ohn! Ahm raight heah! Keel meeh!”

by jc25 on Jun 26, 2008 7:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Eric Gordon to Clippers #7

I’ve always thought of the Clippers as a college all star team that happens to play in the NBA.

I like Gordon as a pro. Good NBA body who can score, score, score.

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by awiggo on Jun 26, 2008 7:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Is it just me or has this been the easiest mock draft ever?

I wonder if the WWL or NBA.com had a contest this year, because the first 7 picks have gone completely to form. I’m guessing Milwaukee wavers on Alexander having acquired Jefferson earlier in the day, so hopefully we see something interesting. Maybe this is the slot the Blazers can move up into.

by WorstFan on Jun 26, 2008 7:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

agreed

and no trades either makes it a pretty boring draft to watch.

by jc25 on Jun 26, 2008 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Joe Alexander

lands in Milwaukee at #8. Am I the only one totally underwhelmed by him?

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by awiggo on Jun 26, 2008 7:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Couldn't agree more.

I’m going to go on record and say this class will be the weakest since the 2000 NBA Draft. Doesn’t this guy just feel like a second round pick of yesteryear?

by WorstFan on Jun 26, 2008 7:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Alexander at #8

Has there been an SMQ-study done about these March Madness unknowns that suddenly go shooting up draft boards, a la Westbrook and Alexander?

I too am underwhelmed, but I think he’s half-Asian, so I’ll be rooting for him. Funny how the trade Yi and pick up another Mandarin speaker.

Once he grows his hair out again, he’s a lock of the Hobbit All-Stars.

by jc25 on Jun 26, 2008 7:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

boooooooooooooooo

Augustin to Bobcats. Ugh.

by jc25 on Jun 26, 2008 7:25 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Augustin to play for MJ

in Charlotte.

DJ obviously made the right decision money wise. A top ten pick after his sophmore year. He wasn’t getting much higher than that.

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by awiggo on Jun 26, 2008 7:26 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Not a horrible team

Emeka Okafur, Gerald Wallace, and Jason Richardson to dish to.

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by awiggo on Jun 26, 2008 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Looks like a fun team to watch.

It's a Horns' world. Even Aggies play hoops with a burnt orange ball.
Is it football season YET?

by Speedway on Jun 26, 2008 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha

I guess we disagree.

I like Okafor, but he’s not as good as his lofty draft pick. Wallace is a freak, but he’s always injured. And I’m not a Richardson fan.

The three of them are all great if they’re your 3rd or 4th best player, but there’s no perennial all-stars in the group.

by jc25 on Jun 26, 2008 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

im not big on bobcats either

the teams managed under MJ don’t have much success….hopefully dj will be traded…like to boston!! he will be a much better pg than rondo

my first born shall be named vy

by hookemkp on Jun 26, 2008 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

or houston :)

More than just 10 wins?

by Ultra Horn on Jun 28, 2008 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hmm... I smell a trade

Having taken Felton just 3 years ago, this seems entirely too soon to give up on him. I’m looking your way, Rose City.

by WorstFan on Jun 26, 2008 7:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Class act

DJ says yes sir to Stuart Scott. Says he’s ready to compete for floor time.

And mentions that Coach Barnes is a tough coach to play for ala Larry Brown. Love it.

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by awiggo on Jun 26, 2008 7:29 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Why is Stephen A even here?

I liked the “yes, sir” answers from DJ.

I don’t think I saw a mock that had DJ going to Charlotte. Their roster is hideous.

It’ll currently be:

C Nazr Mohammed
PF Emeka Okafor/Sean May
SF Gerald Wallace/Adam Morrison
SG Jason Richardson
PG Ray Felton/Augustin

by jc25 on Jun 26, 2008 7:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

No depth

but it could be a very athletic team to watch. I’m a big Okafor fan.

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by awiggo on Jun 26, 2008 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Brook Lopez to NJ Nets at 10

I don’t like this pick either. Too stationary and too athletic. If he’s an inch or two shorter, he is barely a pro.

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by awiggo on Jun 26, 2008 7:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

At least he's not Robin

Guys who barely average 5.6 boards per as collegians tend to average more at the next level right? I mean, right?!?

by WorstFan on Jun 26, 2008 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This may be the best pick of the draft so far

Bayless is a big point with talent and upside as high as anyone in this draft. I really like this pick.

by WorstFan on Jun 26, 2008 7:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Jerryd Bayless to Pacers

This pick I really like. I love his intensity and explosivness. He has a solid NBA body already. He and TJ would be a very small backcourt but they will be able to score and dish a lot.

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by awiggo on Jun 26, 2008 7:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I like it too

But I’m not sure how I’d feel about it if I were TJ. I’m sure the Pacers are looking at Bayless as a point.

And we’ve seen how dangerous it is to have two small guards in the back; that problem would only be amplified in the Association.

by jc25 on Jun 26, 2008 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Chad Ford instant take on DJ
A little bit of a surprise. We’ve been hearing all day that the Bobcats are shopping Raymond Felton. I guess this confirms it. They passed on a need (Brook Lopez) to get Augustin. He’s an upgrade over Felton, so it’s hard to criticize the Bobcats. Augustin has a chance to be special. The Blazers and Kings wanted him and have to be crushed right now.

by jc25 on Jun 26, 2008 7:40 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Question

What’s Larry Brown’s track record at developing point guards?

by jc25 on Jun 26, 2008 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

wow

Kings sucketh.

They’re hurt most of all by all the PGs being drafted already.

by jc25 on Jun 26, 2008 7:42 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Who?

Wow. Gotta love the high school sized gyms.

by WorstFan on Jun 26, 2008 7:42 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Jason Thompson to Sacramento at 12

Huh? I’m a big man of college basketball and I’ve never heard of him. Rider. Hmm… We’ll see further amplifies how weak this draft is overall.

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by awiggo on Jun 26, 2008 7:43 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Thompson

He was talked about by some analysts as a good value pick later on in the draft…one of those “draft gems” you try to find later.

Picking him in the lottery looks like a huge mistake.

I loved how Stern ended the pick with a snarky “he’s not here.”

by jc25 on Jun 26, 2008 7:45 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Chad Ford says
Bayless really slid in the draft, which makes him a great value here. Why would the Pacers draft another point guard after trading for T.J. Ford? We’re hearing Bayless is going to Portland for No. 13 and Jarrett Jack.

by jc25 on Jun 26, 2008 7:46 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That would make more sense than

trying to compete in the NBA with two small guards.

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by awiggo on Jun 26, 2008 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

would also make more sense

for Blazers to have Bayless rather than Rush. No word from the talking heads, though.

by jc25 on Jun 26, 2008 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

they do trade a lot on draft day right

maybe a trade with the suns for something
suns were high on him right?

by abcdmetrius on Jun 26, 2008 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Chad Ford says
The Blazers will send the rights to Rush and Jarrett Jack to the Pacers for the rights to Bayless and Ike Diogu. I think this is a great pick for the Pacers. Rush should be a great fit in the backcourt with T.J. Ford because he defends, shoots the ball and has great size in the backcourt. Rush is one of the most NBA-ready players in the draft.

by jc25 on Jun 26, 2008 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

jeez

did Stephen A just say “looking forward to playing with Brandon Rush”? I think he meant Roy.

by jc25 on Jun 26, 2008 7:50 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Randloph

flirted with coming to Texas. He is really, really thin and didn’t blow me away b/c his team was just so bad last year. Upside pick, for sure.

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by awiggo on Jun 26, 2008 7:53 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

off-topic

In case y’all didn’t see it, Dre Jones pled guilty. No word on whether he kicked bitches at his sentencing.

http://www.barkingcarnival.com/henryjames/andre-jones-pleads-guilty

by jc25 on Jun 26, 2008 7:55 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

oh my god

What the fuck are the Suns thinking? Worst. management. Evar.

by jc25 on Jun 26, 2008 7:57 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

This is a horrible pick. He barely started at Stanford.

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by awiggo on Jun 26, 2008 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Simmons

If you haven’t read Bill SImmons’ obit to the run and gun Suns, it’s a must read. One of his better recent articles.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/080501

Basically, Suns management killed what could’ve been the most exciting team of all time.

Also, the Lopez mom…not a milf. Had to be said.

by jc25 on Jun 26, 2008 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

every year they head hype a "hard working american"

and every year they flop out of the nba
because it’s an athletic game
every single year
this year dicky v is doing kevin love
i mean … how can you not learn

by abcdmetrius on Jun 26, 2008 8:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

nbadraft.net

2009 mock…

Damion James at 13
Connor at 39
Abrams in Greece

http://www.nbadraft.net/mocks/2009_nba_mock_draft.html

by jc25 on Jun 26, 2008 8:06 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Maybe I missed something.

Just got in from running, maybe I missed some explanation, why was the Lopez kid crying when Charlotte picked DJ? Does he have family there?

I've been fuelin' my dreams eatin' greens and beans.

by 16thLonghorn on Jun 26, 2008 8:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Darrel "Slim Shady" Arthur

doing a pretty good Matt Leinart impersonation right now in the green room.

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by awiggo on Jun 26, 2008 8:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

oh you didn't know?

nobody cares about the WNBA.

They need to announce these picks faster before boredom completely takes over. This draft is boooring.

by jc25 on Jun 26, 2008 8:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

wtf

Alexis Ajinca for the Bobcats? No thx.

Especially when Arthur was still on the board. C’mon.

by jc25 on Jun 26, 2008 8:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm not a big NBA guy,

but if I was, I would be furious every time my favorite team drafts an international player.

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by awiggo on Jun 26, 2008 8:28 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Arthur

He would’ve been great as a wing for LeBron, or as a backup learning from Wallace and J-Rich. At this point, I’m hoping he falls to the Rockets (although I doubt Morey would pick him up anyway).

by jc25 on Jun 26, 2008 8:30 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

This is getting ridiculous

I think Arthur will be an excellent pro. He can score with his back to the basket and from mid-range with a face-up jumper. I just don’t get how so many teams think their picks are better pros. I feel for you Darrel.

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by awiggo on Jun 26, 2008 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ryan Anderson to Nets

Because you really want two big white guys on your team.

by jc25 on Jun 26, 2008 8:33 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Prediction

San Antonio picks someone from Lower Gwondanaland, who reappears five years from now as a salary cap giveaway.

Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. If they get mad, you're a mile away AND you have their shoes.

by Caradoc on Jun 26, 2008 8:38 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Chad Ford says
Ajinca is 20 years old and averaged 5 ppg in France. In the history of the NBA Draft, has there ever been a player that averaged 5 ppg or less who turned into a decent player? Ajinca was a workout warrior, dominating some of the other big men in the last few weeks. And he has great size and skills. But can he turn them into production on the court? He’ll likely stay in France to develop.

Way to give Augustin some help there, MJ.

by jc25 on Jun 26, 2008 8:40 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

A few thoughts

My “boy” Kosta Koufos to the Jazz. Couldn’t be a better fit anywhere: white, soft, white, inside-out big man, white, a poor man’s Mehmet Okur. Did I mention very white?

I’m licking my chops at the prospects of Darrell Arthur to the Rockets, but Seattle is rather devoid of talented bigs. That Russell Westbrook pick may look better if the Sonics can land Arthur. Can you imagine a young core of Arthur-Nick Collison-Jeff Green-Kevin Durant-Russell Westbrook

by WorstFan on Jun 26, 2008 8:42 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Nailed it!

I hate being right sometime…

by WorstFan on Jun 26, 2008 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sonics and Rockets

have their pick between Arthur, CDR and Chalmers. I like all 3.

by jc25 on Jun 26, 2008 8:43 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

hahahah

Stern didn’t even know how to pronounce the dude’s name.

Chad Ford had tied Sonics to Ibaka for a while…that has the Presti Spurs touch all over it.

There’s no way the Rockets can fuck this pick up, which obviously means they will.

by jc25 on Jun 26, 2008 8:50 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

KD just got a teammate

from the Congo. Huh??

Fraschilla says that he won’t be in the NBA for three to four years. Then why pick him now?

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by awiggo on Jun 26, 2008 8:50 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

sweet

Ron Jeremy makes an appearance.

by jc25 on Jun 26, 2008 8:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Another raw, big stiff to the Sonics?
Surge Serge Chewacca Ibaka

“What is Kevin Durant thinking right now?”

I’m guessing something to the effect of, “Who the f is Serge Ibaka?”

by WorstFan on Jun 26, 2008 8:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Lots of decent options for the Texas teams

CDR, Mario Chalmers, Donte Green, Darrel Arthur, or someone we’ve never heard of who won’t come to the States for three to four years. Stay tuned…

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by awiggo on Jun 26, 2008 8:55 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Don't fret

This kid is a stud. His stock plummeted because of a false negative on a heart test. He could be one of the best picks in this draft in 2 or 3 years.

by WorstFan on Jun 26, 2008 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

problem is

Rockets have a win-now team. It’s understandable if a team like the Sonics draft with that philosophy; they let their young kids develop on the team while waiting for additional potential overseas. It’s also understandable if a team that’s loaded like the Spurs jump into the international pool, because they can fill their bench with minimum vets that want a shot at the championship.

It’s mind-boggling for a team like the Rockets, with a 2-3 year window with a “peak” Yao and McGrady, and with so many holes in its organization, to do a “wait and see” just because a player MAY be great. While a player like CDR or Chalmers doesn’t have the ceiling Batum has, they’re more likely and more quickly to reach their upside.

by jc25 on Jun 26, 2008 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Chalmers couldn't be less of a need with Head already on board

And while CDR is a nice glue guy, when would he get minutes behind T-Mac and Battier? The guy isn’t much in the area of scoring and while his defense would be nice, his ceiling is far lower than a guy like Batum. I firmly believe in drafting the best available talent, almost irregardless of circumstance. Free agency is a more effective means to fill gaps and I’m honestly not too sure there needs to be any change in the top 8 rotation anyways.

by WorstFan on Jun 26, 2008 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not a fan of Head at all

And I don’t think Adelman is either.

CDR would’ve been a nice fit. McGrady is a lock to miss games, and he and Battier play two different positions. So there’s obviously backup minutes available. They have ZERO back-up at the 2/3 spots…again, I’m adamant that Luther Head doesn’t count. CDR would obviously have played the wing, even after the Rockets sign their back-up free agent over there.

Arthur would’ve been a nice fit too, as he probably would’ve started off as a 3 with the potential to move to the 4.

Agree to disagree, though. I’m a Morey fan as well, so I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt for now. I’m still not a fan of the pick.

by jc25 on Jun 26, 2008 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I. don't. understand.

Nicolas Batum to the Rockets in 2012. Great pick.

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by awiggo on Jun 26, 2008 8:57 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

In Morley we trust

They were right about Battier and Scola. He gets my full benefit of a doubt at this point.

by WorstFan on Jun 26, 2008 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Haha

Did D’Antoni really just make fun of his inability to coach defense in this interview with Wendy Nix? Choice.

by WorstFan on Jun 26, 2008 8:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Hmm...

wonder if the Hornets are regretting selling their pick, with Arthur still on the board. Speaking of Arthur and Bucher’s reported kidney problems, if that was the case, why did the NBA invite him to the green room anyway? Just because they needed a fidgeter in the green room?

Arthur to the Blazers would be positively ridiculous.

by jc25 on Jun 26, 2008 9:03 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

for anyone that cares

Spurs select George Hill (who?) from IUPUI. Not that the Spurs need their first rounders anyway.

by jc25 on Jun 26, 2008 9:05 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Finally,

Arthur selected 27th. Will land in Portland?

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by awiggo on Jun 26, 2008 9:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

ridiculous, ridiculous

No risk pick for the Blazers. They paid chump change for the pick, and have enough talent that Arthur could turn out to be nothing and it won’t matter.

by jc25 on Jun 26, 2008 9:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Sigh...

If only the Blazers had Durant instead of Oden…

by jc25 on Jun 26, 2008 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

honestly

Look at their glut of talented young bigs: Oden, Aldridge, Arthur, AND Channing Frye. Goodness…

by WorstFan on Jun 26, 2008 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

backcourt too

Bayless, Blake (solid backup), Spanish Chocolate, Roy, Martell Webster, Travis Outlaw.

Absolutely sick.

by jc25 on Jun 26, 2008 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Chad Ford says

Ibaka:

We’ve seen this one coming for a while—the Sonics have been keying on him. He’s one of the best athletes in the draft, but he’s very, very raw. He’ll go back to Spain and continue to develop, but down the road he could become an interesting prospect.

Batum

Here’s something interesting. John Hollinger, our resident stats guru, expects Nicolas Batum to be a draft bust, according to his Euroleague translations. The Rockets, led by GM Daryl Morey, are considered the most stats-savvy team in the league. Something doesn’t add up. I wonder if there’s a trade here. Batum has some physical talent and some skill, but he’s yet to put it together in any meaningful way.

by jc25 on Jun 26, 2008 9:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

why do NBA teams pick these foreigners?

Sorry, but I don’t see why you pick a kid who is playing on a junior national team for Spain over someone who has played even a year in college in the US.
Talk all you want about potential, Euros don’t play defense.

by Beergut on Jun 26, 2008 9:20 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

It’s the Ginobili factor; everyone’s looking for the next Manu, except most of the good foreigners are still weak sauce, a la Gasol or Nowitski.

by jc25 on Jun 26, 2008 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And...

Americans play selfish, me-first, fundamentally unsound basketball… Ugh.

Have you ever seen Andrei Kirilenko play? With Western Russia much more akin to Europe than the rest of the country and with them eligible for Euro ‘08, I’ll stick with my point. What about Thabo Sefolosha? Zydrunas Ilgauskas? Mickael Pietrus? Those guys are all world-class (no pun intended) defenders.

by WorstFan on Jun 26, 2008 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh, and Congo?

how do you feel if you were picked behind that guy?

by Beergut on Jun 26, 2008 9:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

talking heads...

stfu so they can announce the damn pick.

by jc25 on Jun 26, 2008 9:22 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Bilas

How did Jay Bilas become the top dog of college basketball? ESPN has freaking Andy Katz, who’s leaps and bounds better than Bilas.

by jc25 on Jun 26, 2008 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i don't think he was invited

or he was invited, but turned it down? unsure.

at this point, i wouldn’t be unhappy if the rockets picked him up as a second-round flier.

by jc25 on Jun 26, 2008 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

jvg

Van Gundy’s good, but Jackson and Bilas are worthless. I’d rather see Bucher and Katz in those spots; at least they know what they’re talking about.

And Stephen A interviewing? Please.

by jc25 on Jun 26, 2008 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

pretty awesome =]

More than just 10 wins?

by Ultra Horn on Jun 28, 2008 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Retarded

I did not think I could feel bad for Steven A, that clip has proved me wrong.

The only appropriate response to that video I can think of: LINK

by Wells on Jun 29, 2008 6:54 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Chad Ford says
Detroit is selecting White for the Seattle Supersonics, a Pistons source told me. The Pistons will get two of the Sonics’ second-rounders—the 32nd and 46th picks. This is a very solid pick for the Sonics. White is a excellent rebounder and a good low post scorer. He’s also young for a senior. He helps the Sonics get tougher up front.

by jc25 on Jun 26, 2008 9:30 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

rumor mill

Holly is posting at Ridiculous Upside that Rockets are trading Batum for Arthur.

Complete rumor at this point.

by jc25 on Jun 26, 2008 9:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Jordan is falling like a rock

good choice to not be in the green room

by Beergut on Jun 26, 2008 9:38 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

did the deputy commisioner

just say, “With the very first pick of the 2008 NBA Draft….”?

He forgot this is the second round.

by Beergut on Jun 26, 2008 9:41 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

he transfered from Mississippi State to UAB

in ‘06, became eligible this past year, and now goes pro?
Sounds like this is a kid who might have had attitude problems.

by Beergut on Jun 26, 2008 9:44 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

i dont understand that pick

Didn’t they see that the second-round picks that go on to be wildly successful in the pros were all wildly successful in college (Arenas, Boozer, etc.)? There’s a trend, people, a trend that means there’s no need to pick a crap player like Sharpe.

by jc25 on Jun 26, 2008 9:44 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Sweet, swet irony

“I think (the pro scouts) will really be watching this game (Saturday) night because it’s two great big men going against each other,” Joey Dorsey said. “I’m an underrated big man and [Greg Oden]’s a lot overrated as a big man. It’s going to be a great rebounding game for me. I’m going to try to outrebound him.”

Hope you enjoy getting took on a daily basis in practice for the next 2 years, sir.

by WorstFan on Jun 26, 2008 9:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I like the value for the Clippers here

This was a guy they were likely considering in the lottery before Turgeon relegated him to the bench. He’s raw, certainly, but there’s such a high ceiling for Jordan.

by WorstFan on Jun 26, 2008 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

interesting case study

without the 1-year rule, jordan would’ve come out last year and been a lottery pick. he and bill walker have legitimate gripes at the new process.

by jc25 on Jun 26, 2008 9:53 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't think Turgeon knew what to do with him

Turgeon had never coached a player taller than 6’8, then came to A&M and had four guys taller than that on his squad last season.
Jordan was immature, but I don’t think Turgeon knew what to do with him.

by Beergut on Jun 26, 2008 9:56 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Second source: Arthur a Rocket

Far from live-through-the-NBA-Draft—2952/” >official, but exciting none the less:

-I was just informed by the Trailblazers that Nicolas Batum was traded by Houston to Portland in exchange for the rights to Darrell Arthur and one of Portland’s early second round picks.

Looks like it was probably Omar Asik who Hollinger rated as a Top 10 caliber pick.

by WorstFan on Jun 26, 2008 10:00 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

i'm a fan of this.

Kyle Weaver..tall point guard? To pair with Augustin? Just a terrible job by the Bobcats.

by jc25 on Jun 26, 2008 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I stick behind my high praise of Batum but PSYCHED for Arthur

Portland doesn’t need him yet obviously, and can stash him over in Europe while he continues to mature and progress. The Blazers basically win the draft for a second straight year, however, I am VERY excited by bringing Arthur in to spell Yao and Scola.

by WorstFan on Jun 26, 2008 10:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

i wouldn't mind Dorsey either

He can back-up the center spot right away. Kind of a worse Mutombo. Asik would be fine, too.

CDR just went to the Nets.

by jc25 on Jun 26, 2008 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm also surprised...

that ESPN is so lax about announcing these trades. With the NFL draft, you see the talking heads just itching to announce the trades. But with this one, you’re waiting..and waiting..and waiting..for the trades to be announced.

by jc25 on Jun 26, 2008 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is it just me...

Or is Coach Calipari a better analyst than anyone on ESPN’s crew?

by WorstFan on Jun 26, 2008 10:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Um

Legacy pick anyone? This cat was a BENCH player and he’s going higher than our man A.J. could’ve gone? Yikes.

by WorstFan on Jun 26, 2008 10:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

You know who I'd pick up?

Marcus Dove, who’s 97 on Ford’s list. Hell of a defender, and a decent spot-up shooter. Could do a lot worse.

by jc25 on Jun 26, 2008 10:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

rockets ship out batum, get back dorsey and greene

Per Houston Chronicle

It didn’t take long for the Rockets to say au revoir to their first round draft pick from France.

Just a short time after taking 19-year-old small forward Nicolas Batum with the No. 25 selection in Thursday’s NBA draft, the Rockets were working to complete a pair of deals that would send away Batum and their second round pick (No. 54) and get two players in return.

Those two players are Donte Greene of Syracuse and Joey Dorsey of Memphis.

Greene, a 6-11 forward, was chosen by the Memphis Grizzlies with the 28th pick in the first round.

Dorsey, who played in the NCAA championship game with the University of Memphis, was taken with the No. 33 pick (second) round by Portland.

Batum will go to the Portland Trail Blazers and the Rockets will also end up with a second round pick from the Grizzlies in 2009.

The Rockets are still waiting for the NBA office to approve the deals.

I like Greene, but I don’t see how that’s an upgrade over Batum. They’re both projects with high ceilings, but are still a bit away from reaching it. Dorsey’s a nice player, but a spare part at best; unless the Rockets are going up against a team with a true center, they’ve already got a player (Chuck Hayes) who does Dorsey’s skill set better.

by jc25 on Jun 26, 2008 10:55 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Arthur not a Rocket afterwards; 'Cuse's Green heading to H-Town

Per the Chronicle, the Rockets have swung some head inducing, chron necessitating 3-way deal with Memphis and Portland:

Just a short time after taking 19-year-old small forward Nicolas Batum with the No. 25 selection in Thursday’s NBA draft, the Rockets were working to complete a pair of deals that would send away Batum and their second round pick (No. 54) and get two players in return.

Those two players are Donte Greene of Syracuse and Joey Dorsey of Memphis.


Although the article mentions nothing of Wright, best as I can understand Houston will receive Donte Green and Joey Dorsey as well as a 2nd rounder from Memphis in 2009, Memphis will receive Dorrell Arthur and possibly something else from Portland (maybe the Turkish center), and the Blazers will still get Batum as originally thought.

by WorstFan on Jun 26, 2008 10:55 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Joe Crawford drafted by the Lakers

As a Kentucky fan, I’m pretty pleased with this. His freshman year, I never thought he’d make the league. Now he’s a second rounder. Has the potential to be an Azuibuike or Bogans-type player, depending on whether he improves his slashing or jump shooting skills more.

by jc25 on Jun 26, 2008 11:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

and the draft is done. good show

By the way, if y’all ever get the chance, go check out Ridiculous Upside. Their live blog was hilarious and kept me going through this utterly boring and disappointing draft.

by jc25 on Jun 26, 2008 11:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

While you were sleeping...

The T-Wolves and Grizzlies pulled off the blockbuster of the draft:

The deal as described to HOOPSWORLD will feature Memphis sending the draft rights to Kevin Love, Mike Miller, Brian Cardinal and Jason Collins to Minnesota for the draft rights to O.J. Mayo, Marko Jaric, Antoine Walker and Greg Buckner.
Minnesota now fields a starting lineup of Al Jefferson-Love-Miller-Rashard McCants-Randy Foye where as the new look Grizzlies will be something to the effect of Darko Millicic-Hakim Warrick-Rudy Gay-O.J. Mayo-Mike Conley. On paper the Grizzlies look like the real winners to me, especially finding a way to unload Cardinal’s ludicrous contract. Kevin McHale continues his infatuation with players unfairly labeled “the next Larry Bird” adding Miller to the fold while getting a strong fundamental, solid defensive player not entirely unlike himself in Love to man the 4.

by WorstFan on Jun 27, 2008 2:03 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

when..

...hakim warrick and millicic are your big men…i don’t think you are a “winner”

by vy til i die on Jun 27, 2008 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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