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Are cosby/shipley NFL material?

Both are fan favorites, and for good reason.  The number of clutch catches Cosby has come up with is ridiculous.  We can always count on Quan to get that first down if a pass comes his way.  He even returns kicks pretty well.  As for explosiveness, Quan doesn't have much of that.  The 4.4 speed of his youth is a bit diminished I guess, but that doesn't take away from what he does best.  He even has somewhat of a baseball career in the waiting perhaps.  Will Cosby be drafted though?  A slow, short receiver doesn't open talent-scouts' eyes.  But his body of work is very strong.  Will it be enough?

As for Shipley, he's just had a ton of bad luck with injuries.  He has nice hands, and is pretty fast, although, not anything jaw-dropping.  He's finally a senior, and this could be his break out year.  Some have said that he might be our "deep-threat" this year.  Not trying to hate on him, but I'm skeptical.  It seems we still haven't seem his true potential unleashed.

In short, both are great college players, especially Cosby but will a team at the next level take either?

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i doubt either of them projects well in the NFL. They are possession receivers without size or burner speed. They fit in well in a ccollege spread scheme bc they often times match up against lesser DBs or get mismatched with LBs. Let’s face it most teams don’t have 4 or 5 serviceable DBs in college which is one of the reasons why the spread is so effective. The NFL does not have the same talent limitations on defense, and there are plenty of guys going into the draft with 4.4 speed, decent size, and good hands at WR.

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by BMG on Jun 28, 2008 8:48 AM CDT   0 recs

I'm not sure on their combine-type numbers...

...but I wouldn’t guess so.

Cosby seems like he has a little more draft potential. However, with his age, NFL teams may see him as having already reached his potential. He’s good at returning kicks and if he goes to the NFL I would imagine he’d have to make that into a specialty.

Maybe Shipley can find a niche as a slot receiver, in a Wes Welker role.

Just guessing, but I see Cosby in the late rounds… 6th or 7th… and Shipley undrafted based on injuries and height.

by Longhorn13 on Jun 28, 2008 8:49 AM CDT   0 recs

no way

Shipley’s not nearly the player Welker is. Not as tough, not as good of hands, not as good working in traffic.

by Blitzburgh on Jun 30, 2008 1:51 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Negative

Methinks not. Cosby does have above average hands, and is a decent blocker, but his lack of size and speed negates those factors. As a returner, I believe he is merely mediocre, or perhaps even below average. Aside from the A&M touchdown, and the long run against Nebraska, which highlighted his lack of speed, I can’t remember any of his returns. He seems to prance up to the 25 yard line, makes one move, and gets tackled.

Shipley is more of a mystery due to his injury riddled career. Obviously, scouts will take notice of his injuries, and one great season might not be enough to win them over. If invited, neither will shine at the combine because their numbers are simply average.

As what Longhorn13 said, Shipley will not get drafted, and Cosby only in the last round, if at all.

by JRA on Jun 28, 2008 11:29 AM CDT   0 recs

ok so

What does this say about Texas Football? Where’s the elite talent? You’re always reading, something like “texas returns fantastic WR in Shipley and Cosby” blabla “poised for a breakout year”. But in reality, they won’t even be drafted. And then Texas is blasted when it loses a couple games. Its like they’re saying “why aren’t you winning, you have all those players destined to sell insurance or become graduate assistants? Isn’t that enough to win a title every year, shame on you Texas!”

by owenh on Jun 28, 2008 12:33 PM CDT   0 recs

NFL Talent

Texas’ NFL WR are all young. I definitly think we’ll see Buckner playing on Sundays. I hoping Williams steps up this year. Cosby and Shipley are just our veteran receivers.

by Longhorns84 on Jun 28, 2008 2:02 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

yes for both

I think both of them can get drafted. If they both have a good year this year. Shipley is faster than some people think. Shipley will be Colt’s go to guy this year. If they do get drafted, it will be late. Its time for Buckner, Collins, Hales, Williams, and Grant to step up.

by Longhorns84 on Jun 28, 2008 1:51 PM CDT   0 recs

Y'all seem to be flying blind.

First, no one has hard numbers on Quan’s or Shipley’s current speed.

Quan once recorded sub 4.3 40-yard dash times with ease; he was a winning sprinter at the Texas Relays and State track meet. So, 4.4 seems reasonable now, but that’s not something directly known.

Shipley also ran track; Burnet had a state qualifying 400-meter relay; he also ran the 100 at the Texas Relays. If I recall, he ran in the 10.6s. Not JC elite speed but not bad. Both appeared to have football speed; that is, their sprint speed translated in uniform. The talk here is that that hasn’t sustained, when, in fact, it should be somewhat enhanced for both (despite Quan’s age and maturity).

Quan didn’t play receiver in HS; he was a QB, returner and DB. He was the first person in Texas football history to make All State at all three positions in one year. He could probably play safety in a pinch. So could Shipley; they were both two-way players who excelled on defense.

So, I need to hear some facts here to support some of the theories advanced. BJ and Sloan Thomas didn’t do that well in the NFL, either. No doubt speed is a premium, as is quickness and size at the present juncture. But that doesn’t mean that Quan or Jordan can’t be effective, successful college receivers; experience counts a lot in the present situation. Over the season that will mean dozens of caught passes that an inexperienced receiver will never get to or be in position to receiver (remember Sweed his freshman year; he was often at a loss of how and where to adjust to VY scrambling).

Shipley’s special ability was the deep pass (then delivered by McGee – who actually ran a spread style attack at Burnet and threw like he did last T+1; Burnet had another fast receiver and a equally speedy TB, so they had a serious and efficient deep passing attack). Shipley was always the clutch receiver and, if Texas can get the ball to him deep he’ll continue in that role. I’m sure Buckner and the others will work toward that goal, too, but again, the experience factor no only helps on the field but also in helping younger receivers gain an edge in game situations.

Those two will both be like coaches on the field, another asset not mentioned. Stability is one of the things this team needs, in the OL and with the receivers. The Horns will have experience; they just need to find the cohesion that experience brings, and the stability and confidence that winning supplies.

by whills on Jun 28, 2008 2:41 PM CDT   0 recs

not even great in college

I love both Shipley and Cosby as college players, but I have to ask: Where are the big plays? If receivers matched up with Baylor and Iowa State and Oklahoma State can’t put up big numbers, what chance do they have of impressing the NFL?
Quan is awfully old, Shipley not exactly young and there are the injuries; I see Shipley jumping quickly into coaching . . . on another subject, I notice DT Brian Ellis is no longer on the UT website roster. Not a surprise, since he had never played; anybody know anything more?

by edsp on Jun 28, 2008 2:45 PM CDT   0 recs

OL

If Colt doesn’t get time, he can’t throw deep passes.

by Longhorns84 on Jun 29, 2008 3:46 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Shipley

I happened to be friends with Jordan Shipley in elementary school and middle school in Abilene before he moved to Rotan and then to Burnet. Obviously, he has since grown up (I’ve seen him a few times on campus), but even at such a young age, I had a good taste of his athletic talent as he owned me in basketball, football, dodgeball, etc.

Is he NFL material? I like to think so. He’s the best all-around athlete I have ever known personally. The guy has speed, quickness, and most of all, he has a natural affinity for sports. I actually thought he was a better basketball player than he was football growing up, but his dad was a football coach so naturally he took that route. He was good at virtually any sport he tried, including golf. I was not surprised at all in high school when I kept hearing about the ridiculous stats he piled up in high school football.

So I think more than just his raw athleticism, which is pretty darn good itself, is his natural understanding and skill when it comes to athletics. He’s a smart player and he has great hands. He’s a competitor and he works hard. He has great quickness, which is why we use him for fake field goals and end arounds. I can see him filling in the “faster than you think white receiver” role for some team like Ed McCaffrey did for the Broncos.

Obviously, he has huge injury concerns. However, if he can convince scouts he can stay healthy and he has a good year (or two; I heard he’s petitioning for another year), I can see him at least getting signed as an undrafted free agent. I believe he’s faster than Billy Pittman and has better hands, and Pittman got signed. Perhaps I’m biased for my childhood friend, but I really do think he has skill and talent. However, if the NFL doesn’t work out for him, Jordan is a smart guy and he’s capable of doing a lot of other things than just sports.

by TheElusiveShadow on Jun 29, 2008 1:44 AM CDT   0 recs

Well, he's not as pretty as his sister

which, I think, is a good thing. Jordon averaged over 20 ppg as a point guard his sophomore year but didn’t play much his junior season. I covered the first Burnet title game and he was running funny, very pigeon-toed. It turns out he played the whole game both ways, caught an early TD, saved another with an INT, with ingrown toe nails on each of his big toes which were horribly infected (possible staph) and obviously painful. After the game he went to the hospital and had the toe nails removed and was hobbled for the basketball season.

I think Jordan pushed hard to build his size and strength. He weighed around 165 when he came in and bulked up to 184 or so quite quickly. Now he’s listed at 195. But I think he pushed his system to the edge early on, and the hammy pulls and others were a consequence of that. That’s not such an unusual occurrence for striving athletes, especially if they work year round with no chance for the body to truly rest.

by whills on Jun 29, 2008 4:02 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I don't remember

his sister as anything more or less than a little girl. But I’ll take your word for it.

I do remember being impressed with Jordan’s growth. Part of that was natural (he was my height in middle school… he grew and I didn’t), but I guess he may have paid the price for working his body like that. Hopefully, he can avoid the injury bug this year and have a great year for us. We really need it.

by TheElusiveShadow on Jun 30, 2008 9:50 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

You're impressed with Jordan's growth?

Or do you mean his growth rate? Because that first statement has several different connotations.

It's a Horns' world. Even Aggies play hoops with a burnt orange ball.
Is it football season YET?

by Speedway on Jun 30, 2008 9:59 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah, I hope he has a great year, too.

I saw her play basketball several times. She was a good lookin’ blonde. Also athletic; she led the team in scoring.

by whills on Jun 30, 2008 12:37 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Haha

Very nice, Speedway.

by TheElusiveShadow on Jun 30, 2008 10:01 AM CDT   0 recs

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